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Offline kstedp07

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new CZ for production?
« on: September 04, 2014, 12:13:12 PM »
i have been shooting a Springfield XDM 5.25 9mm in production uspsa for 2 years. however, i have a fever, and the only prescription, is CZ! i have a P-07, but was thinking SP-01. a friend has a CZ75 BD he's selling for a great price. Opinions? now don't be shy.

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Re: new CZ for production?
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2014, 01:23:16 PM »
If price weren't a concern I'd probably go with an SP-01 Tactical but if you can get a good deal on that 75BD then that sounds like a better choice... can't go wrong either way :)
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Re: new CZ for production?
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2014, 01:40:49 PM »
SP01 shadow custom :)
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Re: new CZ for production?
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2014, 02:01:24 PM »
Depends what a good price is. If it is a good price buy it and shoot it. You can always get a SP-01 later.

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Re: new CZ for production?
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2014, 03:30:42 PM »
Both benefit a lot from some custom action parts, springs and polishing for Production class pistols.  I would add that in to the cost/work for your choices availble.

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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2014, 04:22:53 PM »
Objectively the heavier slide and frame of the SP-01 makes it a winner.

Subjectively I like the classic looks of the 75BD and I have a huge mental block abut decocking by manually letting the hammer down.

I had the same decision to make as you (IDPA SSP/USPSA Production) and went with the 75BD.

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Re: new CZ for production?
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2014, 11:19:17 AM »
The SP-01 Shadow is the most popular pistol used in IPSC Production world wide.  From that you should be able to conclude the shooters in that sport might be on to something.  USPSA allows for more mods than IPSC does so you might have someone do some work one the trigger.  For most of us mortals I doubt the work does much to improve our performance but lots of folks do it anyway.  Personall;y when the buzzer goes off I cannot recall ever feeling any grittiness in a trigger while shooting.  The SP-01 Shadow comes with a pretty nice trigger.  Replace the mainspring with a 13# Wolf spring and the guns are pretty nice out of the box.

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Re: new CZ for production?
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2014, 10:25:53 AM »
Objectively the heavier slide and frame of the SP-01 makes it a winner.

Subjectively I like the classic looks of the 75BD and I have a huge mental block abut decocking by manually letting the hammer down.

I had the same decision to make as you (IDPA SSP/USPSA Production) and went with the 75BD.

SP-01 tactical takes care of that for people afflicted with your mental block. Very nicely I might add,

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Re: new CZ for production?
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2014, 04:04:29 PM »
I have been shooting a regular 75B for many years, and I have a buddy that has as well.  We were in before it was "cool" :D  One of these days I want to upgrade to the SP-01, but I need to wear the 75B out first.  Cajun Gun Works has parts so you can work on the BD version.  There just is not as much support out there for that particular gun.

BTW, my 15yo has run an XDm 5.25 9mm for a couple of years now and really likes it.  His is a bit more tricked out, so he shoots in Limited Minor with it.  It works really good for 3Gun.

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Re: new CZ for production?
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2014, 05:11:29 PM »
Montana,  Mine is the same.  Good luck wearing OUT a 75b .  How old are you?  ;)

Mine has been down due to owner stupidity for quite some time.  I got it back running again recently.  The trigger on the B is on a par with my 75 Shadow Custom that has all the goodies.  The DA is amazing.  It's ready for another 60K rds.   

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Re: new CZ for production?
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2014, 01:05:04 PM »
Age and Old are relative  ;D  I have about 16 years or so on the 75B, and right at 58,000 rounds.  It was my 2 boys competition guns before they go their own (13 and 15 now), so it was out of my hands for a bit.

I am still running the stock hammer/sear, although I did cut it years ago.  13# main and the extended firing pin.  Then this weekend I tried my buddies 75 that has the CZ Race hammer and sear... gads what have I been missing.  Exponential difference.  So, that is next on the list.  I never thought the 75B would get that close to the Shadow, but I am wrong.  I am not even good enough to need that.. yet.  I am out there having fun in USPSA and 3Gun.  So how much longer till I wear it out??


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Re: new CZ for production?
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2014, 08:02:24 PM »
"Only the Shadow Knows",  but using production loads, no steel cases or bullets with steel and various coatings,  it'll be until it loses accuracy due to bbl rifling wear.  Using Production class loads, it won't wear very fast at all.  Parts WILL break, but most are easily replaceable.   

  P.S.  The CGW Race hammer isn't legal in USPSA/IDPA,  but the CZC Competition hammer is legal.   It also gives those great results with improved hammer hooks.  The hammer is the biggy.  The SR disconnector is also another great improvement. 

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Re: new CZ for production?
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2014, 01:40:13 PM »
If you're looking at a full size all metal gun, I'd recommend the SP-01 over the regular CZ 75. In addition, CGW's parts make it very easy (and affordable) to turn an SP-01 into a very nice package that is virtually the same as a shadow in terms of shootability but without the wait time and associated price tag.

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Re: new CZ for production?
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2014, 02:10:55 PM »
My buddy does not shoot USPSA, only 3Gun, and it is legal there.  I also shoot lead reloads about 99.99% of the time, so the barrel will wear out from my cleaning more than likely.  ;D

I have been trying to find a tutorial on how the sear needs to be fit (getting a new one) when I buy the hammer.  I did not think about getting the shorter disconnector either.  I know I can just get the CGW adjustable one, but where is the fun in that :D  After seeing some of the posts here, I may go a bit lighter on the hammer spring too, but that would mean a switch in primers.

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Re: new CZ for production?
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2014, 12:06:17 PM »
i have been shooting a Springfield XDM 5.25 9mm in production uspsa for 2 years. however, i have a fever, and the only prescription, is CZ! i have a P-07, but was thinking SP-01. a friend has a CZ75 BD he's selling for a great price. Opinions? now don't be shy.

I have just started looking at CZ I own a fair amount of guns but no CZ and wanted to add one just to have one.  Plus starting shooting USPSA Production and wanted to get one that would work for that also.

Like the SP 01 but would love to have the Shadow but a lot of money.  Just started searching this site to get some information and ideas on which way to go.