CajunGunWorks and my P-01

[bluesguy72]

The P-01 is my EDC and primary home defense weapon. I posted questions a few weeks back about the tritium night sights, which I'm definitely going to get. Where I get confused is several of the other upgrade options they offer. I've only been shooting a little over two years, so most of this is foggy. Take for instance CGW's Race Hammer. I've tried to find out, but what does it actually do? I'm totally comfortable with carrying Condition 1, so a full double action pull is something I don't see myself using. Sure, I practice it on occasion at the range. But in a defensive situation, shooting from the half cock is how I have trained.

And I know the P-01's SA trigger is a little creepy and doesn't always break the same, but I've gotten used to it. So would the short reset trigger really benefit me? Is it worth the extra cost? I've considered getting the entire Defensive carry package, but not sure if I want to spend that much money or if it's all truly necessary. Of course, I guess none of it's truly necessary, as long as the firearm goes boom when you pull the trigger. But Christmas is coming, and my wife is already asking what I may want...

Anyway, I know most of you are way more knowledgeable than me, so what ya think???

p.s. later on down the road, I may get the thin aluminum grips and replace the rubber mag plates with flush aluminum. But I'm waiting on my new holster from jmcustomkydex.com to arrive to test printing.

[Canuck44]

Those rubber mag plates are a bonus.  I have a bunch of metal mag plates IF you really want to swap out the rubber ones for aluminum.  PM me IF you really want to trade down.

Take Care

Bob

[Genin]

If my wife wanted to get me something like that for Christmas then HECK YES I'd get the defensive carry package done. I've used some of CGWs products, followed David's polishing thread, and currently have my slide there getting mepros and their tempered spring steel FP retaining pin installed. I say go for it. Can't see how you wouldn't love it.

[CZTom]

The CGW Race Hammer has nothing to do with the trigger reset, it just makes the Single Action much much smoother and much much lighter.  It is by far, my most favorite upgrade on all my CZs.

[bluesguy72]

So I'm confused. If the race hammer makes the single action pull easier, then what does the ultra light sa/da trigger upgrade do different? Would the two work best together? Sorry for my ignorance.

[cntrydawwwg]

Instead of just the SA being affected, the springs also help with the DA. I don't have the race hammer so I can't really comment on it. I'd give David @ CGW a call and talk with him. Let him know what you are looking to do. He'll give you the options that work for ya.

[rockhouse66]

I have the CGW race hammer in my P06 and it transforms the trigger feel (smooth and almost no creep) and reduces the SA pull.  I also have the SRT, which I like, but which is of no great benefit unless you plan to shoot DA (my opinion).

[schmeky]

I tell folks this:  draw a thin black line down the center of a piece of paper.  One "half" is the SA, the other "half" is the DA.  The thin black line is where the SA and DA overlap, I commonly refer to as the "timing overlap".

You can improve one, or the other.  We suggest you do both to "balance" the action.  Hammers fix the SA only, springs (and a few other small parts) fix the DA. 

Springs + select parts improve the reset and DA simultaneously.

[1SOW]

Like! 

[huskert]

I always use CGW parts in my CZ's. If you like your P01 now, you would love a Cajunized P01. I run the race hammer, free floating trigger pin, reduced power trigger spring, type 2 disconnector, ultralight/SD spring kit/extended firing pin, short reset kit, etc. I promise you that you will be amazed at what these parts can transform these CZ's into. I do my own installs and action work, but I would highly recommend if you aren't very familiar with detailed gun work to send it in to David at CGW. It's worth ever penny.

[cdhbrad]

Two words:"Pro Package".  Send your P-01 to David with that note and be done with it.  He can also set you up with any sights you want, including milling your slide to accept sights with a Novak cut, which opens up many possibilities for night sights, etc.

[bluesguy72]

I tell folks this:  draw a thin black line down the center of a piece of paper.  One "half" is the SA, the other "half" is the DA.  The thin black line is where the SA and DA overlap, I commonly refer to as the "timing overlap".

You can improve one, or the other.  We suggest you do both to "balance" the action.  Hammers fix the SA only, springs (and a few other small parts) fix the DA. 

Springs + select parts improve the reset and DA simultaneously.

Thanks schmeky. Now I understand. And thanks everyone else for your suggestions. It's looking like I'll go with the race hammer, ultra lite spring kit, and meprolite sights.

[mkd]

davids race hammer or ring hammer realy makes the single action crisp. reduces the felt travel as well as shortens it in single action.

[Independent George]

I tell folks this:  draw a thin black line down the center of a piece of paper.  One "half" is the SA, the other "half" is the DA.  The thin black line is where the SA and DA overlap, I commonly refer to as the "timing overlap".

You can improve one, or the other.  We suggest you do both to "balance" the action.  Hammers fix the SA only, springs (and a few other small parts) fix the DA. 

Springs + select parts improve the reset and DA simultaneously.

That... wow. That made perfect sense. Thank you.

[copemech]

Schmeky is basically correct in his analogy, yet I will share my opinion. What do I know, I am a recent CZ convert and only have two of his full meal deal race guns!

Full blown race hammar gun is too light for an EDC for most, both mine came in at 2.6-2.8 lb short trigger with nil creep! Talk about LIGHT!

For an EDC, all the other stuff, sans the hammar. Run the stocker for a 4# or so pull with some creep and tactile feedback unless you are just so highly proficient under stress.

I found myself doubling after reset trying to find the light trigger under rapid fire. This is ok at the range and for a range gun. Gest a bit iffy under stress.

My recco, do all the rest, springs, pins, polish and wear the hammar in for a while, as they say the get better in time(dry fire). Race hammar is a drop in at a later date.

BTW, we did a little fix to my P-01 to bump up the tactile feedback a bit to over 3# with a HEAVY FPB spring. Seems good so far, gives a bit of staging effect. I pounded out some really nice rapid fire groups at 15yds last time out.

David is Da Man

Final thought, as these hammars work, the stock ones need more metal to make them work and which you cannot replace. The race hammars have a shallow cut and offer something to work with if one were to opt for a bit more tactile feedback in the terms of creep and angle of cut on the sear it could be easily done. The Finest Factory combat triggers are made that way for a reason, think about it!