P-01 and NSN - Is it back?

[Cyanide]

Nope, not at all. It's just an NSN.  My thought is that there is too much confusion with NATO certification for that number where the Czech Police tests are mentioned in the same context.

[Cyanide]

Re-sell? You underestimate the love we have for this pistol. Or at least that I have for this pistol!

[Canuck44]

In 3 weeks I hope to have a P-01 (or a PCR) and to P-01 owners, don't you think not having the NATO number devalues your pistol (from a re-sell perceptive)?

Have you read any of this thread or do you really believe the number is something more than an inventory added by the US distributor.  FYI the Canadian Army's Inglis Hi-Power made in 1944/45 using non-metric dimensions has a NATO inventory number and those guns were long before NATO was born.

Take Care

Bob

[Bodene]

While the number itself might not mean much, if there are a limited number of them with it as compared to ones without it I could see it being more desirable to some just for it being less common. Otherwise if they both shoot the same does it really matter? - Bodene
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[Canuck44]

While the number itself might not mean much, if there are a limited number of them with it as compared to ones without it I could see it being more desirable just for it being less common. Otherwise if they both shoot the same does it really matter? - Bodene
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Given a choice I would want one without the Billboard nonsense on the slide. The guns are never going to reach collector status.  Might be worth a complaint to CZ USA about the fact they are messing up a perfectly good pistol with the number scribbling.

Take Care

Bob

[Alpha Sierra]

In 3 weeks I hope to have a P-01 (or a PCR) and to P-01 owners, don't you think not having the NATO number devalues your pistol (from a re-sell perceptive)? 

I'm not a P-01 owner, so that makes me a potential buyer.  As such I belong to the group (buyers) whose opinion is the one that sets the pistol's value.

I would absolutely NOT pay a premium for some meaningless inventory number cluttering up the pistol.

[Bodene]

To each his own Canuck44. I didn't buy mine for the numbers but they don't bother me either. Most the time I spend looking at mine it's down the sights and not at the side. Would I pay more for one because it did or didn't have the numbers? No. Either way it's a good gun that I'm happy with. - Bodene

[Canuck44]

To each his own Canuck44. I didn't buy mine for the numbers but they don't bother me either. Most the time I spend looking at mine it's down the sights and not at the side. Would I pay more for one because it did or didn't have the numbers? No. Either way it's a good gun that I'm happy with. - Bodene

Oh Bodene, I know they are a great pistol.  I have the 75D Compact aka PCR which is the same gun without a rail.  To me it is just silly marketing based upon a myth.  The gun was test by the Czech police or army and it passed very exhaustive tests.  I forget where the test criteria was/is posted.  They were posted either on this site or CZ UB's website.  If I remember correctly one of the tests was the complete dis assembly down to the frame using several guns.   The parts were then mixed and the guns reassembled.  At that point a certain level of accuracy was expected along with reliability. 

But it wasn't NATO as some suggest who did the testing.

Take Care

Bob
 

[ace73]

Putting the NSN on the gun is just for marketing!
Sig, Glock and Beretta also have guns with NSN's assigned!
I don't think it adds or subtracts from the price!

[Blackwatch]

Here is a picture of the slide stop spring change. the gen 2 change required CZ to
stop using the NSN until it was re-approved. Notice the additional hole in the frame.....

Thanks for the info/pics on Gen 1 vs Gen 2

[Canuck44]

Here is a picture of the slide stop spring change. the gen 2 change required CZ to
stop using the NSN until it was re-approved. Notice the additional hole in the frame.....

Thanks for the info/pics on Gen 1 vs Gen 2

A wise old gentleman from the backwoods of Canadian folklore would say "Horse Puckey" a reference to frozen horse droppings used by rural Canadian lads to play road hockey.  We used them in the city too before milk wagons were replaced by truck in the late 50's.

The NSN number is the NATO inventory number for the pistol not the spring.  FYI "NATO" has never tested the gun ever, never....period.  The Czech Police or Army did and the tests were exhaustive but they were Czech tests not NATO.   Members of NATO may or may not test the equipment they use but NATO doesn't.

Spread the word.

Take Care

Bob

[ace73]

http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=27902.0

Read at the last post......#3.........parts interchangeability.......

That's why the NSN was stopped with the slide spring change......something else
must be different with the newer ones not having the NSN........but I haven't
heard anything! Maybe you should email CZ.......

Oh Bob........of course it's the gun and not the spring......but with 2 different springs,
you lose the "parts interchangeability"........therefor, you lose the NSN.

[Canuck44]

ace73 you are being silly.  The NSN number is put on by CZ USA as a marketing ploy to convince US shooters there is something special about a NATO inventory number.  Shovels have NSN numbers, so do Inglis Hi-Powers used by the Cdn. Army.  The Inglis pistols were made prior to NATO being formed circa 1944 and 1945 and have not been made since.  The Cdn Army still has unfired Inglis pistols in stores.   If there are PO-1 pistols without the number they were missed by CZ USA.  You want the number stenciled on the slide send it to CZ USA I am sure for a fee they will be happy to oblige.

Every piece of equipment used by NATO member troops has such a number.  When you run combined operations under NATO command the sytem allows for example a US supply officer to send out a German infantry unity the right piece of equipment. 

As a buyer the last thing I need on my pistol is some useless inventory number marring the surface. 

I have no idea where the explanation for the absence if a number on some pistols arose from.  Probably from the same source who came up with the idea the inventory number meant something more than it does.  I know, lets all say "NATO" tested the pistol before allowing the gun in inventory.  Some folks in the US still believe the world is flat or just 8,000 years old so why not that story?  It sure seems to have caught on.

Take Care

Bob

[gdawgs56]

I feel like this thread is repeating and repeating itself with yall. lol

[Stuart]

pretty funny thread.