NEA handguards back in stock

[Knife Wounds]

I bought from Corwin and the visa charged 20%,  and then added a 5$ something fee lol.

[jb2sea]

What???

[Knife Wounds]

Sorry im not exactly thinking straight but ill concentrate now haha. Last week on a 200$+ order the visa charged me .79xx % of the total.  So yes we Americans did get a nice discount due to exchange rates.  Then there was some mystery 5$ fee from visa that I attribute to using a currency exchange, I dont know but am happy to recieve the lower price.

[jb2sea]

Got it.  Thanks for the clarification.

Are you going from beaver barf to NEA top guard?

[Knife Wounds]

Im trying to add a railled topcover and "special forces" muzzle device.  I am heavilly interested in the NEA handguards.  The vz2008 currently has beaverbarf.  I am quite fond of the original folding stock and have no plans on replacing it.

[muggia59]

I only got the upper handguard since I already have the fab handguards. Very happy with it. Cowitnessed perfectly with the tsr25 red dot. I to am keeping the VZ folding stock.

[jb2sea]

Did you try the red dot on the FAB upper?

[m3scott]

Cowitnessed perfectly with the tsr25 red dot. I to am keeping the VZ folding stock.

This is exactly what my goal is.  Already have the TSR25. 

And thanks for the info the exchange.  Even with the shipping, that's a pretty good deal.

[muggia59]

Wont cowitness with the Fab upper. You can see the front post thru the picatinny rail itself. Almost don't need the rear sight.

[RSR]

I bought from Corwin and the visa charged 20%,  and then added a 5$ something fee lol.

Yes, you have to use a card w/ no foreign transaction fees!  Otherwise, the CC companies add all sorts of crap.  Capitol One's no hassle or whatever they're called now have no foreign fees as do most travel cards...

But yes, your cc should automatically do the foreign exchange rate conversions automatically...

[RSR]

With nea upper and fab lower you don't have a designed side rail...  You'd only have top and bottom.  Just fyi.

[jb2sea]

I don't want co-witness.  But I am concerned about a polymer upper holding zero.  Has anyone tried the Fab Defense top handguard with an optic to see if it will hold zero?

I do want a light on a side rail.  And an AFG on the bottom rail, so I don't have to worry (so much)  about the heat issue.

[RSR]

Bottom, only the small rail will fit.  And the small rail is sufficient to mount an AFG or other grip. 

Support hand side, I like the long rail for heat deflection as well as a continuous surface for my hand being mounted against. 

Opposite side, I have a small rail for flashlight mount or other accessory if needed.  Better to have and not need, than not have and need...

Also, NEA does sit slightly higher than bonesteel.  But it is a much more substantial rail in pretty much every respect.  And its design is also such that it prevents things from falling into the handguard, unlike Bonesteel.  Whether NEA is "overbuilt" or that extra bulk is critical is quite fairly up for discussion.  But that's my primary takeaway.

Lowers Bonesteel is better ventilated and has much more rail space -- for NEA, more rails means less ventilation.  Also, Bonesteel, you don't have to worry about rails working themselves loose.

But, for Bonesteel in hand, the lower is almost too wide.  Wider than AR quad rails.  And I haven't mounted it yet to try, but I also don't think the bonesteel will be friendly to the gogun gas pedal, which it and the AFG make a pretty much perfect forehand grip w/ my Troy/NEA, and do a very good job of minimizing heat on the support hand.  Without the Gas pedal on bonesteel, support hand thumb ends up on top rail right next to where the pistol in exhausting the gas (point of greatest heat).  Not ideal.
My Daniels Defense Omega rail: 1.9", 48.3mm.
Bonesteel: 2.15", 54.5mm.

In comparison my Midwest Industries Galil Quad Rail is 2.25"/57.3mm, but feels much narrower -- I think it has to be something to do with the wide rail sitting so low to the palm of the hand, but not certain... 
**PAUSE**
So ran through these again.  Bonesteel the meat of thumb ends up atop the side rail.  NEA is about 2/3 on and 1/3 off the rail and the Midwest and Daniels both run palm entirely on the rail.  That's the hangup with bonesteel.  I can rotate my palm more under the barrel , but then I'm not using the same grip on the afg as I"m used too...  Not sure if I'm describing correctly, but the meat of the thumb, portion of palm connected to thumb is what I'm describing...
Bottom line, bonesteel is high enough that my thumb sits atop the side rail and is the only quad rail I have where a c-clamp grip would be described as natural.  It'd be hot, but natural...  Without an AFG that grip would probably be worse... 

Looks like I've gone and convinced myself to spend more $ on upgrading my 2nd tacticool VZ2008 to an NEA fore-end at some  point...

So I've posted before about how low the Bonesteel side rail sits, so thought I'd post some pics today while I was snapping some pics.

Here's the Galil Midwest Industries top vs the Bonesteel bottom.  As mentioned, my thumb rides the top of the bonesteel rail, making a C clamp grip natural -- but that doesn't work if you're running a co-witness red dot...  Otherwise, your thumb right there puts it at hot central...



Bonesteel top vs NEA/Troy bottom (though perhaps not entirely obvious from the pic, the NEA has about 2x the distance between rails as the bonesteel):

*Worth mentioning that the bottom rail, I leave the front most hole open for increased ventilation there as well as most support for the AFG.  And the long NEA side rail, allows some venting at the foremost side rail hole, and the sling swivel attachment hole offers add'l ventilation on the rear...  To mount the gas pedal where I needed it, the sling swivel attachment hole would've been covered so I sent it to the rear...  W/o the gas pedal, would probably help w/ ventilation/cooling to the front if you don't need to mount a sling...

And here's just the setup of the go gun gas pedal and AFG that I really like for the VZ58 -- this is the aluminum version that runs about $50 vs $15 polymer airsoft ones you can find.  (Need to order some ODG rail covers...)



In summary, the NEA handguard fits my hand similar to my AK/Galil and AR handguards where my thumb and the meat of my thumb rides the rail.  Bonesteel has my thumb and most of the meat of my thumb riding the top of the side rail.

*Should mention that I'm looking to sell this Bonesteel rail and will separate w/ it at cost plus shipping.  Didn't use Bonesteel's screw adhesive, just blue loctite, so all the adjustment screws should be easily removed and no modifications were made to the rails.  Also have a black aluminum gas pedal I don't have an immediate need for that I'd sell for $50 delivered (installed but never left the house) if anyone is looking.  Essentially same price as gogun but free shipping.  PM me for either.

http://store.gogunusa.com/Gas-Pedal-for-Rifles_c5.htm

[RSR]

Went to install my new NEA rail set today (swapping out the bonesteel), and the bolts/screws included to install the short rails are not the correct spec...

They are 17mm in length from top of head to bottom of screw/bolt.  Previously, I have ordered the same items and received 13.85mm screws/bolts measured the same. 

I email SFRC to see if/how they'll correct. 

And the screws worked to install the bottom rail, but the sides, the screws impacted the barrel before tightening down the rails.  At this price, they should correct...  Will loop back once I have a resolution.

Also, when installing these aluminum rails, I cannot emphasize enough the importance of greasing the backside of the rail and receiver where they meet.  Saved me from filing the front end on both the bonesteel and NEA vs my somewhat ignorant first attempt.



1. Grease blue section of rail all the way from top to bottom, backside facing the receiver (didn't mark blue on the pic past the lug portion to not confuse/cloud the tapping marks, but from top to bottom of the rear you'll want to grease the full thing, including past the lug).  You'll also want to grease the forward surface of the front lower receiver against which this piece will rest.  So grease on both surfaces that interact.
2. Install green portion in your front lower handguard retainer (previously where I filed 1/8" or so off, but have since learned is unnecessary).
3. I've found it easiest to upend rifle (use a muzzle device or otherwise protect crown).  So arrow would face down and also the direction you tap.  You'll tap the lug surface indicated by yellow line.  Your support hand will hold the barrel and lower handguard.  While you tap w/ rubber mallet/gunsmith hammer, you'll squeeze with your support hand to install.  Once you get it installed to the point where you don't have space to tap, a hand squeeze should seat the rest of the way, but if it doesn't, just tap from the outside bottom towards top to seat (tap area just above the yellow arrow head).

Super fast and easy install.

[RSR]

Just 4 NEA handguards left in stock right now.  And they're running a 10% off sale -- in addition to 1 canadian = 80 US cents (roughly an add'l 20% discount).

Here's the info:

As I am sure many of you are aware, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that the gov't of Quebec could not keep the Federal long gun registry data. 

To celebrate that great victory for gun owners we are having a 10% off sale.

Use the discount code "Quebec" during checkout to get the discount.

If you don't enter the code during checkout, we can't manually apply it
later.

This sale code can't be used for past orders. 

This sale is active from Mar 28th at 4pm until Mar 30th at 6pm EST.   

You can use the code as many times as you want be but we can't combine
multiple orders.