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Offline Dirty J

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Re: So where did you put your engraviing for your SBRed scorpion ?
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2015, 08:45:40 PM »
There's no requirement your marking (aside from the serial number) be in metal.

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Re: So where did you put your engraviing for your SBRed scorpion ?
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2015, 04:53:38 PM »
So now you don't have to mark it. man I am lost on this one. and if its registered as SBR. we go out and remove the stock. its still registered whether the stock is on it or not.


and who is running around with these at every public range screaming see what I got lookee lookee. guess if I am legal!!

it's  madness I tell you madness.
 sbr it and be done with it.

its not a device of mass destruction.. :-X


Offline jla956

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Re: So where did you put your engraviing for your SBRed scorpion ?
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2018, 08:53:36 PM »
In speaking with my local ATF agent, there is no requirement to engrave the receiver of a SBR if you are not selling it.  Engraving is for FFL 02's that create SBR's for sale.

My returned Form 1 came with a notice on it in red ink that said my SBR EVO was required to have the maker's name, city, and state stamped on the firearm.  Since it's on the Form 1 I take it that the BATFE expects it to be on there whether you intend to sell it or not. 
12/14/2016 - CZ Scorpion Evo S3 arrives from factory
1/6/2017 - Form 1 mailed
1/11/2017 - Form 1 received @ BATFE
1/12/2017 - Fee processed by BATFE
1/23/2018 - Approved by BATFE
2/5/2018 - Stamp Received from BATFE

Offline st381183

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Re: So where did you put your engraviing for your SBRed scorpion ?
« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2018, 12:05:22 AM »
In speaking with my local ATF agent, there is no requirement to engrave the receiver of a SBR if you are not selling it.  Engraving is for FFL 02's that create SBR's for sale.

I was going to cite numerous subject matter experts to let you know your ATF agent gave you bad advice. There are plenty of sources to substantiate that you MUST, engrave you new SBR with your into. Now, are there enough ATF agents to go to every Form 1 holder and inspect for engravings, no. But if you use your SBR in self defense or it gets stolen and they recover it COULD they jack you up if they wanted to, yes the could.

Here is Adam Kraut?s video regarding the mark/engraving of Form 1 SBRs with links to pertinent laws, and he?s an actual gun lawyer.

https://youtu.be/fMnYEW54Ucc

Offline Destructo6

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Re: So where did you put your engraviing for your SBRed scorpion ?
« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2018, 04:40:08 PM »
You shouldn't have to seperate the receiver halves to get it engraved.

I had mine laser engraved just above the pistol grip on the right side where there is a narrow flat strip. The text height and depth is to batf requirement, but it's barely noticeable, which is how I wanted it.

I stripped mine down as much as I easily could: field strip and sights.

Call your engraver, explain what you need done and hammer out the details with them. Iirc, it took about 3 days and cost about $50.

Offline st381183

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Re: So where did you put your engraviing for your SBRed scorpion ?
« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2018, 08:54:11 AM »
Veritas Machining. Veteran owned, did my Scorpion and ARs. They will send you a proof before they proceed for approval before any work is done. With 2 day shipping on both ends- one week turn around. Cost w/ shipping about $70.

https://www.veritasmachiningllc.com/

Offline moose97

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Re: So where did you put your engraviing for your SBRed scorpion ?
« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2018, 08:04:38 PM »
Short answer - yes, you can disassemble the "clam shell." However, it's a pain in the rear if you all you're doing is engraving/lazering. I disassembled mine, but only because I had it cerecoted:

« Last Edit: February 12, 2018, 08:08:57 PM by moose97 »

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Re: So where did you put your engraviing for your SBRed scorpion ?
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2018, 09:39:11 AM »
I had mine engraved onto the metal serial number plate located on the right half. I also have a small trust name, so it fit on there fine.

Veritas Machining. Veteran owned, did my Scorpion and ARs. They will send you a proof before they proceed for approval before any work is done. With 2 day shipping on both ends- one week turn around. Cost w/ shipping about $70.

https://www.veritasmachiningllc.com/

That's who's done my SBRs. Great guy and great quality!
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Offline Obiwan

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Re: So where did you put your engraviing for your SBRed scorpion ?
« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2018, 02:15:51 PM »
I had mine laser-engraved by Tar Heel (https://tarheelstatefirearms.com/). Good work and quick turnaround. (I chose them based on recommendations on this forum).
« Last Edit: February 16, 2018, 02:17:24 PM by Obiwan »

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Re: So where did you put your engraviing for your SBRed scorpion ?
« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2018, 08:11:39 PM »
I had mine laser-engraved by Tar Heel (https://tarheelstatefirearms.com/). Good work and quick turnaround. (I chose them based on recommendations on this forum).


Tar Heel is awesome, fast and cheap comparatively. Did my form1 sbr and suppressor.


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Offline wyoung

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Re: So where did you put your engraviing for your SBRed scorpion ?
« Reply #40 on: February 20, 2018, 12:32:47 PM »
Several engravers I've spoken to have said laser engraving your manufacturer info doesn't meet the minimum engraving depth requirements of the ATF. They recommended mill engraving to meet the depth.

Offline Destructo6

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Re: So where did you put your engraviing for your SBRed scorpion ?
« Reply #41 on: February 20, 2018, 01:14:22 PM »
here's what the BATFE says about marking (27 CFR 478.92 a1i:
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For firearms manufactured or imported on and after January 30, 2002, the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of the serial number must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch and in a print size no smaller than 1/16 inch;
The engraver should be able to vary the depth, based on material. From what I read, .01" on acrylic plastic is doable.

The VeritasMachiningLLC website explains a lot and their rates are good.

Offline wyoung

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Re: So where did you put your engraviing for your SBRed scorpion ?
« Reply #42 on: February 20, 2018, 01:20:54 PM »
OK, maybe they were assuming aluminum or I may be remembering what they told me about aluminum. I know I've read about some people having their aluminum receivers laser engraved just assuming it's fine.
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Offline Destructo6

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Re: So where did you put your engraviing for your SBRed scorpion ?
« Reply #43 on: February 20, 2018, 01:41:40 PM »
I'm sure it has a lot to do with what machine you are using and its capabilities.

What I'm reading is that newer laser machines have no trouble reaching the .003" depth in Al.

I also can't see BATF going after you solely because you asked for .003" depth, paid for it, and only received .0025" depth.

Offline ecsuser

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Re: So where did you put your engraviing for your SBRed scorpion ?
« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2020, 03:29:22 PM »
This thread needed a bump

Here's where my guy engraved it on my Micro



« Last Edit: July 08, 2020, 03:36:16 PM by ecsuser »