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Offline Gretsch9

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Re: The CZ P-10 is here, with video
« Reply #75 on: December 13, 2016, 08:19:01 PM »
Cz p10 will fit on a g19 holster.. question, will the sites of g19 also compatible with the czp10?
Doubtful. I would hazard a guess that you will need P-07/09 sights for the 10.

The CZ USA rep told me that the front sight cut is the same as the P07 but the rear has a unique cut.
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Re: The CZ P-10 is here, with video
« Reply #76 on: December 13, 2016, 09:15:39 PM »
Dawson Precision will have something quickly. 

All I really need Day 1 is the fiber optic front, which I can order as soon as I know the right height.  I can black out the rear until someone makes a good rear for it.
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Re: The CZ P-10 is here, with video
« Reply #77 on: December 13, 2016, 09:39:30 PM »
I hope Springer Precision can make me a red dot mount in a hurry.  Or I can get a slide cut. 

Joe
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Re: The CZ P-10 is here, with video
« Reply #78 on: December 13, 2016, 10:01:47 PM »
Saw 7 new posts and got excited that the 10C started hitting stores. Looking to make it my first CZ


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Re: The CZ P-10 is here, with video
« Reply #79 on: December 13, 2016, 11:43:25 PM »
I say it is a striker fire CZ 75 SP01!

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Re: The CZ P-10 is here, with video
« Reply #80 on: December 14, 2016, 02:17:09 AM »

Offline WilburWildcat

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Re: The CZ P-10 is here, with video
« Reply #81 on: December 14, 2016, 04:02:38 PM »
Regarding the P-10C magazine compatibility with the P-07:

I compared the CZ photo of their new P-10C magazine against my recently purchased P-07 magazine.

Both the P-07 and P-10 magazines have the two fenestrations on the lateral edges of the front.  The P-10, however, has a new cutout in the upper center of the front of the mag.  Is this new, single upper cutout for the P-10 ambidextrous release?

That would explain how the new P-10 mag is also backward compatible with the P-07...


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Offline rhart

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Re: The CZ P-10 is here, with video
« Reply #82 on: December 14, 2016, 04:14:39 PM »
It would have been better IMHO if they had slide-in-frame like CZs are known for.
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Re: The CZ P-10 is here, with video
« Reply #83 on: December 14, 2016, 05:22:40 PM »
https://youtu.be/ESh3wW9rc5I

Wow. I think I will be buying one of those this year, might even trade off a lightly used Glock 2nd Gen 19 it will replace.

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Re: The CZ P-10 is here, with video
« Reply #84 on: December 14, 2016, 09:24:34 PM »
Yes, the new magazines for the P10C are compatible with the P-07. It is very likely that all new P-07 magazines and probably P-09 magazines will be engineered with this cutout in place for total compatability.

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Re: The CZ P-10 is here, with video
« Reply #85 on: December 14, 2016, 09:33:03 PM »
That is what I've read.  From here on forward, it's all one magazine family with cross-compatibility.  If you want your current P-07/09 mags to work with the P-10 series, however, you will need to cut/drill in the center notch yourself.

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Re: The CZ P-10 is here, with video
« Reply #86 on: December 14, 2016, 10:03:08 PM »
Cz p10 will fit on a g19 holster.. question, will the sites of g19 also compatible with the czp10?
Doubtful. I would hazard a guess that you will need P-07/09 sights for the 10.

The CZ USA rep told me that the front sight cut is the same as the P07 but the rear has a unique cut.

Unique as in different from a P-07 or unique as in that it is different from the Kadet/85/etc dovetail? 

I will need to get a red dot mount for one as soon as possible is why I'm asking. 

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Re: The CZ P-10 is here, with video
« Reply #87 on: December 14, 2016, 10:10:51 PM »
The P-10 looks very interesting, I look forward to trying one.
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Re: The CZ P-10 is here, with video
« Reply #88 on: December 14, 2016, 10:30:17 PM »
It would have been better IMHO if they had slide-in-frame like CZs are known for.

Metal slides don't ride on polymer frames internally OR externally, else the metal would chew up the polymer.  That's how Glocks/M&P/XD/VP9/PPQ/etc are designed. You might be thinking "Ah ha!  But the P-07/09 pistols are slide-in-frame designs...," and you'd be technically sorta kinda correct, but if you will look at your P-07/09, you will see that it has a metal insert in the polymer frame just like Glock and the others, and that is really what the slide rides on. All the polymer frame does it get things lined up when you reassemble.  It's a loose fit otherwise.   

In a polymer, it's no longer doing a real job, and at that point, it goes from being a feature to a constraint.  It's good they didn't restrict themselves in that fashion. 

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Re: The CZ P-10 is here, with video
« Reply #89 on: December 14, 2016, 11:04:59 PM »
It would have been better IMHO if they had slide-in-frame like CZs are known for.

Metal slides don't ride on polymer frames internally OR externally, else the metal would chew up the polymer.  That's how Glocks/M&P/XD/VP9/PPQ/etc are designed. You might be thinking "Ah ha!  But the P-07/09 pistols are slide-in-frame designs...," and you'd be technically sorta kinda correct, but if you will look at your P-07/09, you will see that it has a metal insert in the polymer frame just like Glock and the others, and that is really what the slide rides on. All the polymer frame does it get things lined up when you reassemble.  It's a loose fit otherwise. 

How is it a constraint? Is it a constraint in the P07/P09? I guess I don't get the point. My understanding is the CZ slide-in-frame design is to lower the bore axis. I had a P07, which I gave to my oldest grandson, and I have a Glock 19 - so I know the slides don't ride on polymer frames, but rather on metal inserts.

In a polymer, it's no longer doing a real job, and at that point, it goes from being a feature to a constraint.  It's good they didn't restrict themselves in that fashion.
Musashi:
- In all forms of strategy, it is necessary to maintain the combat stance in everyday life and to make your everyday stance your combat stance. (situational awareness).
- You can only fight the way you practice.
- If you do not control the enemy, the enemy will control you.