HB Industries P10 trigger

[Thebillsman]

I just want a black one 

[Toby196]

I figured out the problem.  The front of the trigger bar is hitting the bottom corner of the front rail/locking block.  It turns out the factory trigger on my FDE P-10 has been doing this but not enough to really notice.  My trigger bar and locking block have gouges where it's been rubbing for over 1,400 rounds!  Video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQP9CpbQm0c

I just finally got around to disassembling my frame, so I could perform this preemptive fix to avoid the possibility of having any reset problems when I get my HBI trigger.  I was just now taking a look at the area on the rail/locking block that would need to be re-contoured, and was surprised to see that the rounded corners have already been ground down.  I purchased the gun new in Mid-August, so either someone did some work on my "new" gun before I bought it, or perhaps CZ is aware of the potential problem and had already begun performing a quick "fix" while they're assembling them.  It's kind of a rough grind job, not as smooth or "good-looking" as I would expect from the factory.  Anyone here have any thoughts.

I posted a couple pics of it on imgur: https://imgur.com/a/sh0gE , https://imgur.com/a/uEffu

[Jeff25]

Got mine installed the other night, and the only issue I had was getting the 3.5 roll pin (the farthest forward) back into the gun. A couple thoughts....
*It's always intimidating taking apart a new gun, but the install is straightforward and there aren't any  "gotcha" moments that could send you to a gunsmith.
*The gun is greaser from the factory than I thought it was.
*I didn't see any obvious parts inside that would benefit from polishing. I've heard there is, but the trigger feels so good out of the box that I'll be fine letting it polish itself out.
*The 3.5 spring feels really light to me. Like, too light for carry. But then my other guns are a Shield and a Ruger SP-101
With some conscientious practice, I believe it's going to solve the pinch. I can grip so high on this gun, my finger goes into the trigger guard at a downward angle. With a proper grip and mindful finger placement (just a little more than my finger tip) it feels fantastic. I originally planned on installing a fiber optic front sight and just shooting the thing, but the trigger looks to be a good investment beyond just making it comfortable to shoot. I can't wait to get this thing to the range!
 

[Thebillsman]

You guys are KILLING me.

How long is the wait until the next batch

[jdchen0407]

Call me cheap, but I was literally about to order one from CZ customs (due to HBI being sold out) 

But HELL!!! if I'm going to pay $10.50 in shipping for something they can shove into an envelope.    (Sorry rant over)  =)

[jdchen0407]

I just want a black one 

CZ Customs has all colors in stock, If you can deal with the outrageous shipping prices  (see rant above) =)

[Toby196]

Call me cheap, but I was literally about to order one from CZ customs (due to HBI being sold out) 

But HELL!!! if I'm going to pay $10.50 in shipping for something they can shove into an envelope.    (Sorry rant over)  =)

Wow, that does seem a bit steep for shipping such a tiny item.  I'm guessing they may not want to just put it in an envelope (even padded) because of the risk of damage during shipping.  And even the Small Flat-Rate box at USPS is over $7.  Unfortunately, it seems like anything that requires a box is going to end up costing at least $5 to $10 to ship (though I may be way off on that estimate).

ETA: I just looked at an invoice from a MidwayUSA order a few weeks ago, and it was $11 shipping for just 2 of the 3 Glock Pins and a few bronze bore brushes.  Of course, not all places are that expensive, but a lot of them seem to be in the same ballpark.  And I agree that it sucks to pay so much for an order that's so light/small.

[jdchen0407]

Call me cheap, but I was literally about to order one from CZ customs (due to HBI being sold out) 

But HELL!!! if I'm going to pay $10.50 in shipping for something they can shove into an envelope.    (Sorry rant over)  =)

Wow, that does seem a bit steep for shipping such a tiny item.  I'm guessing they may not want to just put it in an envelope (even padded) because of the risk of damage during shipping.  And even the Small Flat-Rate box at USPS is over $7.  Unfortunately, it seems like anything that requires a box is going to end up costing at least $5 to $10 to ship (though I may be way off on that estimate).

Exactly.    My thinking is what is there to damage?  a piece of aluminum and 2 springs?  they are springs!!!

[Toby196]

Call me cheap, but I was literally about to order one from CZ customs (due to HBI being sold out) 

But HELL!!! if I'm going to pay $10.50 in shipping for something they can shove into an envelope.    (Sorry rant over)  =)

Wow, that does seem a bit steep for shipping such a tiny item.  I'm guessing they may not want to just put it in an envelope (even padded) because of the risk of damage during shipping.  And even the Small Flat-Rate box at USPS is over $7.  Unfortunately, it seems like anything that requires a box is going to end up costing at least $5 to $10 to ship (though I may be way off on that estimate).

Exactly.    My thinking is what is there to damage?  a piece of aluminum and 2 springs?  they are springs!!!

Lol, yeah I agree.  I don't see the trigger itself being damaged in a padded envelope.  I guess it's possible to damage the springs, but it seems unlikely.

[oldfrank]

Small padded first Class envelope could ship for a couple of bucks. A small Priority box will ship for $5-6.
I guess their business, pay it or do without.

[MissionaryMike]

The shipping cost of anything purchased online is the price we pay for the convenience of ordering something whilst seated in front of our computers, as we multitask several other things simultaneously.  It's great that so many places across a multitude of industries offer free shipping, but we're not entitled to it, no matter how small or light the item might be. 

Is free better?  Sure, for me and you, but not the seller.  Should we consider the cost of shipping when deciding how and when to purchase?  Probably prudent.  But overall, unless it's something exorbitant, shipping costs aren't something to complain about.  It's just the cost of doing business.  You can always drive down to AZ and pick one up.

[jdchen0407]

The shipping cost of anything purchased online is the price we pay for the convenience of ordering something whilst seated in front of our computers, as we multitask several other things simultaneously.  It's great that so many places across a multitude of industries offer free shipping, but we're not entitled to it, no matter how small or light the item might be. 

Is free better?  Sure, for me and you, but not the seller.  Should we consider the cost of shipping when deciding how and when to purchase?  Probably prudent.  But overall, unless it's something exorbitant, shipping costs aren't something to complain about.  It's just the cost of doing business.  You can always drive down to AZ and pick one up.

I bleep well just might! lol  I understand the cost of business but common  charging 18% the cost of the item for shipping is highway robbery!

[Toby196]

The shipping cost of anything purchased online is the price we pay for the convenience of ordering something whilst seated in front of our computers, as we multitask several other things simultaneously.  It's great that so many places across a multitude of industries offer free shipping, but we're not entitled to it, no matter how small or light the item might be. 

Is free better?  Sure, for me and you, but not the seller.  Should we consider the cost of shipping when deciding how and when to purchase?  Probably prudent.  But overall, unless it's something exorbitant, shipping costs aren't something to complain about.  It's just the cost of doing business.  You can always drive down to AZ and pick one up.

I understand what you're saying (and you're right), but it still sucks, lol.

BTW, (as you and most people here probably already understand), there really aren't any stores offering truly "Free" shipping.  It just means the shipping costs are factored into the cost and profit margin of the product being sold.  And seeing as HBI is selling their triggers for the same price as CZ-Custom, I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a very big profit margin between the dealer price that CZC pays for them and what they are charging the customer.  In that case, "free" shipping might end up causing them to lose money on each Trigger (or at least not make a worthwhile profit).

[nova3930]

I can tell you that free shipping usually does mean everything is factored in. The advantage being you know what your minimum margin is at any point, and if you can combine shipping your margins go up.



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NAAH Tool Works
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[rch024]

Ok, so I just installed by HBI trigger, and I'm having a slight issue. If I pull the trigger back very slowly, it sometimes doesn't want to release the striker. It's like it hits the "wall" at the back of the trigger, but you have to push harder against the "wall" to get the striker to release. Not sure if my explanation makes sense, but it doesn't do this all the time, just SOMETIMES when i press the trigger VERY slowly. It's like it's hanging up on something, but Idk what it could be.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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