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Offline GypsyDanger

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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #210 on: January 22, 2018, 10:55:15 PM »
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SG,

Thank you for continuing this thread, and thank you to all who gave us input during the first round of data collection and quantification.

To all owners exhibiting this issue, please try to hold onto your firearm and chose another weapon to CC for now. Resist the temptation to sell it, as the weapon's issue could surface during a future buyer's DGE. CZ-USA still has no apparent update on this issue, but SG's fix might do the trick.

Recently, I took it to the range and was surprised to see that the issue resurfaced when a Federal HST did not fully clear the feed ramp upon feeding. It seems that a failure to eject might not be the only obstruction that can easily depress the ejector. Now, collecting dust seems to be the only thing this pistol is good at doing.

I will try to contact CZ-USA for a standard P-01 or PCR replacement. If the warranty dept. accepts the claim, I will update you all so that you might be able to do so yourselves.

Regards,
Gypsy

After you had a P07 replacement spring installed/Dimpled the lever??????

P07 spring but no dimpled lever. Did not want to invalidate the warranty.


Ugh *facepalm* Can you manually replicate it when you push down on the extractor? I havent shot mine yet, I actually bought a used P01 today and took it out to the range.

If I push down on the ejector, yes it will replicate the issue as described above. However, it requires about 50% more force than previously applied. Installation was also slightly more tedious than before.
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Offline M1A4ME

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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #211 on: January 23, 2018, 06:37:17 AM »
Putting that little spring back in would be much easier with 3 hands and smaller fingers.
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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #212 on: January 23, 2018, 07:37:53 AM »
Quote from: M1A4ME on January 23, 2018, 06:37:17 AM
Putting that little spring back in would be much easier with 3 hands and smaller fingers.

I have found a locking hemostat to work quite well in this regard... ;-)

https://www.amazon.com/HTS-161S2-Locking-Straight-Hemostat/dp/B000W1Y9YU
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Offline M1A4ME

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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #213 on: January 23, 2018, 07:44:21 AM »
Got a pair of those in most every tackle box I've got.  Great for working hooks out of a small mouth bass's "mouth" without getting a hook in your fingers when they decide to flop around.
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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #214 on: January 23, 2018, 07:59:40 AM »
Are you talking about the decocker spring or the ejector spring.... The p0709 decocker spring was a pain to put in on mine, think it is the fact it now rubs on the trigger bar.

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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #215 on: January 23, 2018, 09:07:04 AM »
Quote from: supergunner84 on January 23, 2018, 07:59:40 AM
Are you talking about the decocker spring or the ejector spring.... The p0709 decocker spring was a pain to put in on mine, think it is the fact it now rubs on the trigger bar.

Decocker spring... and it is a pain, regardless  ;-)

The ejector spring is more of a flight risk.
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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #216 on: January 27, 2018, 07:17:04 PM »
I had another successful day with my Cajun spiced P01 Omega at our monthly IDPA match. Gun performed without malfunctions of any sort.

My gun appears to be made in 2016, so guess I?m lucky.

To be honest, this is the gun I?ve always wanted & im completely satisfied.
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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #217 on: January 30, 2018, 09:49:21 PM »
Well, finally made it to the range again today with my 2017 P-01 Omega in Urban Grey. I tried dimpling, but it appears to not quite have been sufficient yet. I used a standard center punch which proved rather difficult to use, but I thought I had dimpled it sufficiently, as there was a much more snug fit between the decocker pieces (to the point where I was worried about being able to remove the decocker). I have ordered a spring loaded center punch to try and make the dimpling process a little easier and see if that will resolve the issue.

I took a video showing the issue. My apologies for the shakiness, trying to take video with the phone in one hand and fire with the other was challenging.

https://youtu.be/74R_SWnr3hQ
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Offline M1A4ME

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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #218 on: January 31, 2018, 08:31:49 AM »
Not sure what I saw.

It looked like the left side decocker raised up.

When you laid it down on the table I couldn't tell if the right side decocker had moved out or it the left side decocker had moved out.  I could see the depression where the end of the decocker shaft was no longer flush with the right side decocker, but I can't tell why.

Was it because the left side decocker moved to the left in it's start to move out of the frame?
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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #219 on: January 31, 2018, 10:48:37 AM »
Gypsy...any word from CZ about getting a new gun? I have 300 rounds though mine with the P07 spring including a box of HSTs with no issues so far.
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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #220 on: January 31, 2018, 12:04:00 PM »
Quote from: M1A4ME on January 31, 2018, 08:31:49 AM
Not sure what I saw.

It looked like the left side decocker raised up.

When you laid it down on the table I couldn't tell if the right side decocker had moved out or it the left side decocker had moved out.  I could see the depression where the end of the decocker shaft was no longer flush with the right side decocker, but I can't tell why.

Was it because the left side decocker moved to the left in it's start to move out of the frame?

Sorry about the lack of a better description. Upon firing the left side of the decocker walks out and both sides of the decocker flip up. Here are additional pictures showing the length of travel on the left as well as the right side decocker where it is a little clearer to see what is happening:





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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #221 on: February 01, 2018, 06:48:49 PM »
Are you going to send it in to CZ? Welcome to the omegahell we have been living through.

SG
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Offline M1A4ME

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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #222 on: February 01, 2018, 07:09:36 PM »
It's not in my hand to look at/tear down but I can't see this happening more than a couple/three ways/reasons.

The ejector isn't completely up into the slot in the left side decocker shaft.  If it was that decocker wouldn't be moving.  It couldn't move.

Or, the spring that pushes up on the ejector is weak as my old diesel K5 and just can't keep the ejector up in the slot.

If the ejector won't go up into the slot completely it's slot width or ejector width (or maybe, position of the slot in the ejector shaft - not clocked correctly and so the ejector is barely fitting into the slot).

If the spring is weak/too short, etc. you could try ordering a new one.

Man, I hate to wait on someone else to fix my stuff if it's something I can do (or something I think I can do).  I just worked on my brand new 9MM AR15 this afternoon to "fix" it.  I could have e-mailed people/places but I just wanted to get it going.  What I did seems to have worked.  Live fire exercise next week, hopefully.

Good luck with yours.  I do know one thing.  Only a couple places will fix it - CZ or you.
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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #223 on: February 01, 2018, 08:32:09 PM »
Quote from: supergunner84 on February 01, 2018, 06:48:49 PM
Are you going to send it in to CZ? Welcome to the omegahell we have been living through.

SG
I sent it in to CZ in November after my first trip to the range with it and it experiencing this issue, and their 'fix' was unsuccessful.

http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=92667.msg714889.msg#714889


I'm going to try for more aggressive dimpling once my spring-impact center punch arrives,  and if that fails probably send it back to CZ a second time.



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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #224 on: February 02, 2018, 08:20:27 AM »
Quote from: Muggins on February 01, 2018, 08:32:09 PM
Quote from: supergunner84 on February 01, 2018, 06:48:49 PM
Are you going to send it in to CZ? Welcome to the omegahell we have been living through.

SG
I sent it in to CZ in November after my first trip to the range with it and it experiencing this issue, and their 'fix' was unsuccessful.

http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=92667.msg714889.msg#714889


I'm going to try for more aggressive dimpling once my spring-impact center punch arrives,  and if that fails probably send it back to CZ a second time.



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They installed the P07 spring and that still happened???
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