P-10c range report.....mixed results

[2tango2]

Went to the range today and my report on my P-10 is a mixed bag

1st of all it was 30 something degrees with a brisk wind.   Not really conducive for shooting outside without gloves.....my hands never really warmed up.....I should know better


Well here is the good.   No ammo issues at all.   It fired everything that was fed to it when there wasn?t an issue........

Which leads to the bad....

Loaded 5 rounds in the 1st mag.   Rounds 1-4 go off without a hitch.  When I got to round 5 I see this




At first I couldn?t figure out what the hell happened as I couldn?t get the slide to go any further forward.  Apparently the freezing temps were affecting not only my hands but my thought process as well.  I tried to recall all the possible issues that the P10 has and by process of elimination I arrived to the conclusion that the back plate had slid down....popped it back up and the slide went into battery.  [emoji849]

Out of the first 50-75 rounds this seemed to happen every 3 or 4 shots.  I put it down for a bit and ran about 30 rounds through a Glock 19 that I picked up on my way to the range (went in for 2 boxes of ammo and came out with a G19.....don?t judge me lol)

Here is the 19....nice gray color




But I digress.....zero issues with the Glock as expected


Ran 5 more through the P10 and no hang ups on the back plate hmmmmm

Fired another 75-90 rounds through the P10 and the back plate did not catch and hang the slide like it did the first 75 rounds

FWIW the 1st batch of ammo I ran where the slide plate caused issues was WWB NATO 124 and Perfecta 115grn.  The 2nd batch where there were zero hang ups was Remington and PPU 115.  Not that I think any of this was ammo related, just mentioning it.

My back plate DOES have the new angled cut in it so I was a little surprised at it hanging up.




There is play in the backplate where it does move up and down a bit.  I tried pushing it down as far as it would go to see if I could induce it to hang up with a manual cycle but no dice.  Goes into battery fine


Has anyone else had this problem with the beveled cut in the backplate as shown above?   Possible that it just needed to ?break in? and seat itself??

What is the solution from CZ for people that have had this issue?   I take it there is play in that piece in everyone?s P-10

Overall I like the gun, just not sure if it grounds its teeth on that first 75 rounds and should be fine going forward


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[Joe L]

If yours hung, the problem isn't solved.  I trimmed mine a bunch so that it couldn't catch when it dropped down, but it leaves an opening for dirt, etc, in the rear of the slide.  I may just just put a dab of silicone or Shoe Goo in the corners of the plate to hold it in place in the slide until I need to remove the striker, and put a new one in mine with the bevel, at least until CZ really fixes it permanently.  I even tried a piece of shim stock but it was too difficult to get it in place.  An adhesive is quick and should be effective if not overdone. 

Joe

[2tango2]

Yes it did hang for the amount of rounds I mentioned but after that it went through the remaining rounds without a hiccup

I?ve tried to get it to hang by pushing down on the plate throughout the evening while I been watching TV but have not been successful.  I?m hoping that is a good sign


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[2tango2]

I will add I just looked at another pic I took at the range and I don?t think it sits as low now.





I?ll look In the morning



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[De-der]

Mine did the same thing twice in the first 230 rounds or so...
I did send it back to CZ, they "adjusted the end plate"
Since it's return, I've run about 700 rounds with 0 issues.
It runs like a champ.

[cremaley]

CZ Warranty Service did mine and now its tight as a drum. Will not move up or down.

[badwrench]

I thought CZ had taken care of this.. OP is this a new pistol, or have you had this for awhile? Your best bet would be to send it back to CZ and let them "adjust" the backplate, whatever that means. I'd guess that there is two ways of adjusting the backplate...1. Go through a pile of backplates until you find one that fits tight..or 2. Put the slide in a vise and give the back end a little squeeze...This is however, a object lesson for all of you who carry  a p-10 knowing that the backplate slides up and down, and think that the bevel on the bottom of the backplate is all that's needed to fix it.. I'd also say that the first person who can design a backplate that is easy to remove but, will stay soildly in place when installed, there's a plie of money waiting for you..

[2tango2]

I thought CZ had taken care of this.. OP is this a new pistol, or have you had this for awhile? Your best bet would be to send it back to CZ and let them "adjust" the backplate, whatever that means. I'd guess that there is two ways of adjusting the backplate...1. Go through a pile of backplates until you find one that fits tight..or 2. Put the slide in a vise and give the back end a little squeeze...This is however, a object lesson for all of you who carry  a p-10 knowing that the backplate slides up and down, and think that the bevel on the bottom of the backplate is all that's needed to fix it.. I'd also say that the first person who can design a backplate that is easy to remove but, will stay soildly in place when installed, there's a plie of money waiting for you..

Brand new....slid down and hung up on round #5.   I was only loading 5 at a time and it did it every other mag it seemed through a box and a half

After that the next 75 rounds or so it didn?t hang


Target date is in September 2017.  Looks like it has the newest parts but who knows

I did notice while watching You Tube videos that a number of people while manipulating the firing pin had it make an audible click into place.  Mine doesn?t do that.  Not sure I explained that right


If I send it back to CZ and they adjust the plate so it doesn?t move, what happens if you have to remove it to change out the firing pin as many have mentioned they?ve had to do?


Windchills were in the 20s if that makes a difference

[cremaley]

I thought CZ had taken care of this.. OP is this a new pistol, or have you had this for awhile? Your best bet would be to send it back to CZ and let them "adjust" the backplate, whatever that means. I'd guess that there is two ways of adjusting the backplate...1. Go through a pile of backplates until you find one that fits tight..or 2. Put the slide in a vise and give the back end a little squeeze...This is however, a object lesson for all of you who carry  a p-10 knowing that the backplate slides up and down, and think that the bevel on the bottom of the backplate is all that's needed to fix it.. I'd also say that the first person who can design a backplate that is easy to remove but, will stay soildly in place when installed, there's a plie of money waiting for you..

Brand new....slid down and hung up on round #5.   I was only loading 5 at a time and it did it every other mag it seemed through a box and a half

After that the next 75 rounds or so it didn?t hang


Target date is in September 2017.  Looks like it has the newest parts but who knows

I did notice while watching You Tube videos that a number of people while manipulating the firing pin had it make an audible click into place.  Mine doesn?t do that.  Not sure I explained that right


If I send it back to CZ and they adjust the plate so it doesn?t move, what happens if you have to remove it to change out the firing pin as many have mentioned they?ve had to do?


Windchills were in the 20s if that makes a difference

As I said earlier CZ Warranty Service chamfered my slide plate cover to the point where it does not move up or down but I am still able to remove it and have replaced my striker and striker spring. After re-installing still tight as a drum. No movement up or down.

[2tango2]

I thought CZ had taken care of this.. OP is this a new pistol, or have you had this for awhile? Your best bet would be to send it back to CZ and let them "adjust" the backplate, whatever that means. I'd guess that there is two ways of adjusting the backplate...1. Go through a pile of backplates until you find one that fits tight..or 2. Put the slide in a vise and give the back end a little squeeze...This is however, a object lesson for all of you who carry  a p-10 knowing that the backplate slides up and down, and think that the bevel on the bottom of the backplate is all that's needed to fix it.. I'd also say that the first person who can design a backplate that is easy to remove but, will stay soildly in place when installed, there's a plie of money waiting for you..

Brand new....slid down and hung up on round #5.   I was only loading 5 at a time and it did it every other mag it seemed through a box and a half

After that the next 75 rounds or so it didn?t hang


Target date is in September 2017.  Looks like it has the newest parts but who knows

I did notice while watching You Tube videos that a number of people while manipulating the firing pin had it make an audible click into place.  Mine doesn?t do that.  Not sure I explained that right


If I send it back to CZ and they adjust the plate so it doesn?t move, what happens if you have to remove it to change out the firing pin as many have mentioned they?ve had to do?


Windchills were in the 20s if that makes a difference

As I said earlier CZ Warranty Service chamfered my slide plate cover to the point where it does not move up or down but I am still able to remove it and have replaced my striker and striker spring. After re-installing still tight as a drum. No movement up or down.

That sounds like what I?m wanting to hear [emoji106]


I?ll send an email when I get home


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[2tango2]

Just for s&g this how far the backplate dropped at the range



This how far I can make it drop now



A bit of difference.  Only thing different I can tell is testing in a 68 degree room vs a 20 something degree range

I?ll still write CZ as I agree.  There should be zero movement in a backplate.   I?ve owned dozens of strikers over the years and this is the only one to exhibit such behavior


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[badwrench]

Just for s&g this how far the backplate dropped at the range



This how far I can make it drop now



A bit of difference.  Only thing different I can tell is testing in a 68 degree room vs a 20 something degree range

I?ll still write CZ as I agree.  There should be zero movement in a backplate.   I?ve owned dozens of strikers over the years and this is the only one to exhibit such behavior


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I agree the amount of movement shown in the first pic is unacceptable, especially for a carry gun. I agree by all means call CZ ASAP, Send them the pics you posted, I'm positive they'll take care of you..

[cremaley]

Ditto on what badwrench  said.

[wyoung]

Mine did the same thing when I first started shooting it. It only hung up once but I don't have a large number of rounds through mine. It has the fully chamfered slide plate from the factory.  I sent it back to CZ for the plate issue and the striker issue. They only replaced the striker and said they shot it and it was fine. The rear plate is still loose and the new striker still rotates.

I spoke to the guy who worked on my pistol before they shipped it back and he basically admitted the issue is they can't get any of the newer parts to upgrade the older guns because the newer parts are dedicated to new production.

My guess is the half circle area on the back of your striker assembly wasn't properly snapped into place on the rear plate which will allow excessive movement of both the striker assembly and plate.

[2tango2]

Mine did the same thing when I first started shooting it. It only hung up once but I don't have a large number of rounds through mine. It has the fully chamfered slide plate from the factory.  I sent it back to CZ for the plate issue and the striker issue. They only replaced the striker and said they shot it and it was fine. The rear plate is still loose and the new striker still rotates.

I spoke to the guy who worked on my pistol before they shipped it back and he basically admitted the issue is they can't get any of the newer parts to upgrade the older guns because the newer parts are dedicated to new production.

My guess is the half circle area on the back of your striker assembly wasn't properly snapped into place on the rear plate which will allow excessive movement of both the striker assembly and plate.

Not to sound naive but what does chamfered mean?

What was your striker issue?

Striker rotates?  My firing pin does have a little play in it




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