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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ Polymer Pistols: P10, P-07, P-09 => Topic started by: Line Rider on December 15, 2018, 12:40:38 PM
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I've carried and shot my Glock 19Gen2 for the last 15 yrs as my primary EDC gun. The points that I like about it is first no finger groves, second no ninja rail and finally is it made in Aust. Well I'm thinking about a P07. It fits my Boston butt size hands well. Its about the size of the Glock 19. The problem I have is that I can't find anyone that has shot the P07 5000 or more rounds. Yes, I since the internet guru's talking about their "new" P07.
I want to know if this a gun I can trust with my life.
Has anyone or is anyone seriously carrying the P07 as an EDC gun. If so how many rounds had you put thru it, anyone malfunctions or stoppages.
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Not to steer you away from a great forum, but pistol-forum.com has several folks with high round count P-07's, guys using them as EDC as well as for gaming. Look for members with the handles of clusterfrack and GJM, probably others, but those two stand out in my mind. They're tough guns with a well earned reputation for reliability. Only reason I'm selling mine is I prefer metal frames and the "classic" 75 action. Later.
Dave
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This is pretty good confirmation in my book ! A good read for sure.
http://www.defensereview.com/cz-p-07-duty-combattactical-pistol-the-best-pistol-nobody-knows-about/
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I appreciate the information and would like to hear more. I'm not trying to start a flame or bash any gun or anyone.
This summer I going to at least one high dollar shooting school and possible a second. I don't want to show up at the class and find that my equipment can't carry the load and have to rent a Glock or a Beretta.
I've carried Glocks for the 25 years on and off duty. Its just hard to think about a change.
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Joe L. a member here, has put 1000s and 1000s of rounds through both the P-07 & P-09, most of them without even cleaning them. He shoots them out to 100 yards as bullseye guns.
Search his name.
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I appreciate the information and would like to hear more. I'm not trying to start a flame or bash any gun or anyone.
This summer I going to at least one high dollar shooting school and possibly a second. I don't want to show up at the class and find that my equipment can't carry the load and have to rent a Glock or a Beretta.
I've carried Glocks for the 25 years on and off duty. It's just hard to think about a change.
Understand your concerns and thoughts for sure & fully understand. Hey love em or hate em a Glock is a Glock and their reputation precedes them for sure ! I have Glocks and will probably add a New G45 next Spring but with that said I love my 07 along with my other CZ pistols. I will truthfully say I had 3/4K rds through my 07 with 0 issues but then sent it to CGW a year ago or more so that would kinda "reset" the clock I guess. I have done 2 Classes along with multiple range trips with my 07 since that time and again ZERO issues. All told I would easily say I have over 6K++ through the gun in both stock and CGW Pro Pak configuration and have always been more than pleased with it and never a concern. I agree its hard to break the mold and go with a totally different gun/platform/SA/DA mode. A striker gun is such a simple design with ease of use at the top of the list in my eyes.
Bottom line is YOU need to put in the reps/training with a totally different style gun to be comfortable and once that is done & your content then worrying if the 07 will hold up would be of little concern in my eyes. Good luck and keep us posted on your transition!
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++ for what daved, m1a, and Grendel have said.
I was on pistol-forum yesterday and still have the tab open about the P07 being a vet-ed pistol and trusted.
I own a P01 and not a P07 because I like metal but it was a tough decision.
Asking a question about a pistol you are wanting is not "starting a war". This site is one of the best for a reason.
Knowledgable people that are willing to share info.
Also, if you are going to a class you know you will be taking more than 1 pistol anyways. I don't go to the range with just 1.
Enjoy
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I have both the P-O7 and the P-09. I first carried the po7 for a while got very comfortable with it, did the suggested polishing and spring changes, and never had a problem. I then bought the po9 did the same internal upgrades, been carrying it everyday for about the past year in an Alien Gear 3.0 tuck iwb.
When I practice I practice for self-defense and not bullseye, draw and shoot two rounds every time I draw.
Zero issues. Both pistols can make a good shooter and even better shooter.
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I have a P-07 and carry it often. I find nothing with this firearm that would prevent me from relying on it to be my EDC in any way.
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Oh line rider, welcome to the start of the CZ Addiction.😎😉
You're going to love how it shoots!
👍
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My P07, has about 15,000 rounds through it, all are NATO spec or hotter rounds.
Zero problems, Zero malfunctions.
I have not carried any other pistol as my primary pistol since I got my P07.
Currently, I am in a high risk environment and carry my P07 with 3 21 round mags on board. Plus a Glock 26 with a Glock 19 mag in it as backup.
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The problem I have is that I can't find anyone that has shot the P07 5000 or more rounds. Yes, I since the internet guru's talking about their "new" P07.
I want to know if this a gun I can trust with my life.
Has anyone or is anyone seriously carrying the P07 as an EDC gun. If so how many rounds had you put thru it, anyone malfunctions or stoppages.
Look up Mike Pannone. He initiated a sort of craze toward the P07 several years ago. He is a credible instructor and has put tens of thousands of rounds DR in the P series. I am now invested in the P series and consider it robust, accurate, reliable, and VERY accessible. There are enough holsters and custom vendors to make it your own.
I would BUY IT in PERSON. Pick one that OTB has a decently steady trigger. It can have grit, but buy one that does NOT stack. You can smooth it up with a little work. I polish and do the CGW EFP and springs for a 15 LB hammer spring and it makes a SWEET carry gun. But shoot a case in it first.
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Line Rider, carried and shot Glocks for over 10 years. Still think they are a great platform. However, I shot a PO1 and a PO7 a little over a year ago. Went to my local dealer and bought a PO7. I put 1000 rounds through it and then Cajunized it. Sold all of my Glocks except a 19 that my brother bought me. I now own a PO7, PO9, and will be purchasing either a Shadow or PO1 compact after Christmas bills are paid. My best friend shoots only Sigs . . . he has shot my Cajunized PO7 and said it is the best pistol he has ever shot. Carry my PO7 in a Vedder LiteTuk and will not look back. CZ's are so under rated, and in my opinion, one of the most over looked weapon platforms there is. Oh, I have shot and owned HK's and Sigs in addition to my Glocks . . . just say I am hooked. I won't buy another gun except for a CZ.
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I have one with about 3,700 rounds thru it, 2017 model. I trust it as a carry pistol.
It fits me well and I am quite a bit more accurate with it than most other brands.
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Ex-Delta cat and CZ shooter Mike Pannone has tens of thousands of rounds through his P-07 and swears by it. I just took one of his classes and my P-09 and P-07 ran flawlessly. As a former dude who carried Glocks, I would trust my life to either of my CZs. BTW, one of my partners in the class had a Glock that kept malfunctioning with factory mags so they?re not perfect either. Here?s an old article that Mike wrote on the P-09.
http://www.defensereview.com/cz-p-07-duty-combattactical-pistol-the-best-pistol-nobody-knows-about/
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I have two P-07s and a P-09 as well as a few other CZs. I shoot my P-09 the most and probably have about 4,000 rounds through it.
I honestly can't think of a single malfunction I've had with that gun. It shows no real signs of wear and shoots like a dream. I don't know what finish they put on the barrels but the bleeped things just don't foul. Clean up is easy and the entire fire control group is easy to disassemble and reassemble with the help of Joe L's videos here.
Get one, you won't regret it. In fact, I'd be willing to bet another CZ will soon follow it home!
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I have two P-07s and a P-09 as well as a few other CZs. I shoot my P-09 the most and probably have about 4,000 rounds through it.
I honestly can't think of a single malfunction I've had with that gun. It shows no real signs of wear and shoots like a dream. I don't know what finish they put on the barrels but the bleeped things just don't foul. Clean up is easy and the entire fire control group is easy to disassemble and reassemble with the help of Joe L's videos here.
Get one, you won't regret it. In fact, I'd be willing to bet another CZ will soon follow it home!
Agree 100%!
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Hey Line Rider, I think the big question for yourself right now is how many of them you going to buy ?😎 go get one and put a smile on your face.
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Welcome aboard!! You?ll love the P07. I also have two P07?s and a P09, and I?m not sure how many I?ve put through the Urban P07, but it?s a ton. I?ve never had a single hiccup, FTF or FTE with it, with cheap 115?s up through more exotic loads. Usually I carry with 124 S+B?s or Magtechs when not carrying something more specialized. I have lots of pistols, but the trusty P07 never leaves my side.
You will enjoy it. It?s a joy to shoot, own, and carry. The DA/SA decocker setup is my personal preference for EDC.
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I don't shoot my P series pistols as often as I used to, but I still carry a P-07 with me every day. I've never even thought about it not being reliable. It is a great firearm, as are my two P-09s, one of which has well over 10k rounds through it with no problems at all. And it's been the featured handgun in a few videos.
Joe
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I EDC a P07. Great to carry conceals great even with a +2 mag base.
Only one malfunction which I?m 100% sure it was ammo related.
Failure to fire 2 rounds of Hornady CD
Out of 2 boxes of 20. Ammo was 10 months old.
Someone mentioned on another forum that constant chambering could damage the primer.
Right after the failures my P07 ran 400 rounds of S&B flawlessly so I?m inclined to believe it was the 2 rounds of Hornady. The rounds in question also wouldn?t fire in a different gun.
So I?m more inclined to cycle out my SD ammo more frequently.
I have total confidence in the P07 for EDC.
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I have shot so many rounds through both its not funny. They are durable and reliable.
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Line Rider, carried and shot Glocks for over 10 years. Still think they are a great platform. However, I shot a PO1 and a PO7 a little over a year ago. Went to my local dealer and bought a PO7. I put 1000 rounds through it and then Cajunized it. Sold all of my Glocks except a 19 that my brother bought me. I now own a PO7, PO9, and will be purchasing either a Shadow or PO1 compact after Christmas bills are paid. My best friend shoots only Sigs . . . he has shot my Cajunized PO7 and said it is the best pistol he has ever shot. Carry my PO7 in a Vedder LiteTuk and will not look back. CZ's are so under rated, and in my opinion, one of the most over looked weapon platforms there is. Oh, I have shot and owned HK's and Sigs in addition to my Glocks . . . just say I am hooked. I won't buy another gun except for a CZ.
+1 on the Vedder LiteTuk!
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Being from the sub-free state of NJ, my wife and I don't carry our P07's, but we both get to the range regularly. Just shy of 5K on mine, and a hair over 3K through hers. 2 malfunctions in one box of Field and Stream ammunition. Both were failures to extract, and while one of the cases looked excessively scuffed, the 2nd rolled into the pit as I fumbled it out of the chamber.
I had some other misgivings about that ammo, and won't mind crossing it off my list of preferences. Other than that, we've enjoyed flawless performance from both pistols. I'm sure we'll both feel comfortable carrying them upon relocation when she retires.
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I think it would be a great move Rider. With the P-07 you get reliability, accuracy, better ergonomics than the Glock, the inherent safety of a DA first shot (which requires a longer, more deliberate trigger pull to fire the first shot), and then the shorter, lighter, crisper SA follow-up shots (shooter and more crisper than the Glock trigger for sure).
That being said, the Glock is a great pistol as well. I carried one for years, but once I discovered my P-09 and P-07, I don't think I'll ever go back - to Glock or striker-fired (if I did return to the striker-fired, it would be P-10 all the way).