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GENERAL => General Firearms Discussion => Topic started by: Cyanide on October 14, 2014, 02:09:08 PM
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Since questions come up from time to time concerning comparative pistol sizes, I've decided to share various images of my collection stacked against each other from different angles.
Some of these pistols you are going to see are no longer in the stable per se, and there are a couple I either just recently acquired or will acquire soon but have no photos like these yet (CZ 2075 RAMI BD, Beretta 8000D, S&W M&P Shield).
For the record, I am granting permission to any of you who wish to copy these pictures to do so in the hope of it helping assist with any decisions towards getting/not getting a certain pistol or, to assist when you are having a friendly debate with a friend or associate lol.
WARNING: Lots of images coming!
CZ P-01 vs CZ P-07
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With 17-rd Sar K2P mags...
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CZ P-07 vs Grand Power P1 Mk7
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CZ P-01 vs Grand Power P1 Mk7
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(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/14/ee5426beafab7f8121b3b2df0f7869c4.jpg)
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Steyr C9-A1 vs CZ P-07
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/14/5ca8ca07676b94443d536cec5e1b191c.jpg)
Walther PPQ vs CZ P-07
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/14/ec87270195a67fe2c9770f18bb07de37.jpg)
Grand Power P1 Mk7 vs Walther PPQ
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/14/03490727c00085efe111c563ad3428f9.jpg)
CZ P-07, Walther PPQ, Steyr C9-A1
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(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/14/cedcb76abcce4f83feacc1c16472da59.jpg)
Taurus Millennium PT-111 G2 vs Glock 26 Gen 4
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/14/19d02fede24d0e7e88b36c78cfd75c83.jpg)
Taurus 24/7 G2 vs Glock 26 Gen 4
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/14/e83aaaee5879b6994ab6029c59a55454.jpg)
Taurus Millennium PT-111 G2 vs Walther P99C
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/14/a4037a1174dc91f63c9597d448860f6f.jpg)
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Through some Photoshop editing, this shot shows the Walther P99C, Ruger SR9C, and Glock 26 with their big brother's full-size mags compared to their smaller ones.
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/14/d8d3912f249c0452923b9cc163005146.jpg)
CZ 2075 RAMI BD, Walther P99 AS, CZ P-01, CZ P-07
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/14/7c927a793b413e4b876dddd9cb0cadd1.jpg)
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Cyanide, you have a way with pictures. Interesting stuff.
Thank you for taking the time.
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My pleasure!
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Very nice. Helpful comparisons.
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Y'all are very welcome!!!
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Great Pics and very good Photography! 8) Thanx for posting! :)
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Anytime JWC007, just trying to (positively) contribute, especially if I can help somebody out who might not have access to one of these pistols at their local gun store.
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I have said it once and will say it again, love your comparison pictiures.
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Cyanide, which of the pistols above are your top three and why?
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Very nice thread. This could definitely come in handy for future guns.
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Glock 19 vs Steyr C9-A1
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Steyr M9 vs Glock 19
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(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/18/a2639c65bac356f4f0f4faf2639b713c.jpg)
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Steyr S9-A1 vs Glock 26
*My apologies for the price tags showing.
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/15/56ff9f6c9c8da476d5da5f73a35c642a.jpg)
Steyr S9-A1 vs C9-A1
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Very Interesting and very nice! 8) I like the grip and general ergonomics of the Steyr's. :)
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Those are VERY helpful, thank you! A couple of those are on my list to buy.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
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Cyanide, which of the pistols above are your top three and why?
Geez, you would put me on the spot wouldn't you? Lol. As of right now and, in no particular order (though subject to change soon with the acquisition of my Beretta 8000 D).
CZ P-01
Steyr C9-A1
CZ P-07
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/18/f63faa0d7d6437d295feb52a2c101689.jpg)
I will save my reasons for another thread, as I don't want this one getting sidetracked by any possible debating and arguing between any of us. Want to keep this one on track as a side by side picture comparison.
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I appreciate that, and I am looking forward to that thread. I am happy you picked the three I was hoping for.
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Steyr disassembly, though doing it one-handed takes practice, as the take down lever is backed by a pretty stiff spring!
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/23/ee8d85898400d4dbb682d589638c20af.jpg)
Grand Power P1 Mk7 disassembly:
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/23/4175fa6ee6ae2d3a72b3271a845cc2a3.jpg)
CZ disassembly (P-07 shown). Punch is not needed to push out slide stop/takedown pin. Corner of magazine base plate works perfectly:
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Very nice comparison and photography. Thank you for sharing!!
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Cyanide, I am still waiting why the Steyr is highly regarded by you. I like the looks of it.
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Whenever I get back home I'll do a few more with new additions/comparisons including the RAMI, SR9C, S9-A1, and P99C
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My apologies for the graininess on these, but I zoomed in on a couple of old, in-hand shots of the Steyr & PPQ.
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Comparison of my grip on a Steyr M9 (identical on newer models), Gen 3 Glock 19 (my preference is Gen 4 models), and CZ P-07. The red lines are there simply to demonstrate hand position, by showing my trigger finger knuckle location, as well as the 'wrap-around dimple" where the webbing of my hand actually starts it's wrap around the backstrap. I've never personally suffered "Slide Bite" on a Glock, but I can see where the concern is for some.
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CZ 100 vs CZ P-07
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CZ 2075 RAMI vs Walther P99C
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Nice, this thread is great reference. Thanks Cyanide.
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Very interesting comparisons! 8)
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Thanks for the great post. You helped me with the P-01 vs P-07 pics.
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Y'all are very welcome!
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Steyr S9-A1 vs CZ 2075 RAMI vs Walther P99C
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I made a mistake in purchasing the PPS over the P99Compact. Sold the PPS and never got the P99 since I started shooting CZs. I am not interested in striker fired pistols so I guess I never will get one.
I am waiting for the reintroduction of the Beretta Centurion.
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I just recently sold the P99C, and may have to get rid of my Rami D (backed against a wall $$$-wise, since spent two of the last 3 weeks broke down before having to go home).
Sitting here going through all the comparison pictures and I cannot believe that I have not thrown the SR9C into any of them. Going to have to correct that next time I go home, as well as the M&P Shield sitting at my dealer awaiting installation of ATS sights!
Ya shoot my CZ 100 you may want to acquire one for yourself FJ!
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Can you show the RAMI and 26; was looking at getting one of them.
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Can you show the RAMI and 26; was looking at getting one of them.
Andrew, I no longer have the Glock 26. The RAMI & P99C pics are very similar to a RAMI vs G26/G27 comparison. The CZ is a little shorter in OAL but a smidgen wider due to the external levers, and they're both about the same height, whether equipped with the stock short mag or an extended mag w/ grip sleeve.
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thanks, been leaning towards the RAMI, pics have helped
Can you show the RAMI and 26; was looking at getting one of them.
Andrew, I no longer have the Glock 26. The RAMI & P99C pics are very similar to a RAMI vs G26/G27 comparison. The CZ is a little shorter in OAL but a smidgen wider due to the external levers, and they're both about the same height, whether equipped with the stock short mag or an extended mag w/ grip sleeve.
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I am not interested in striker fired pistols so I guess I never will get one. I am waiting for the reintroduction of the Beretta Centurion.
Not to side track, but I must say that concerning striker fire pistols I do see why they have their fans (myself included) and I must admit to the following:
If CZ ever builds another striker fire pistol ala the CZ 100 and/or Beretta builds one based off of the PX4 (especially the compact size), I will be all over that like white on rice!
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Great comparison pictures, really helps.
Thanks,
Richard
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thanks for the pictures
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Glad I could help, will have more pics to add in about another week or so!
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Very interesting, thanks for your effort.
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Probably last comparison pics for awhile, barring any requests of stuff in my current collection (recently sold off and just shipped out both of my CZ P-07's and the RAMI D, my last Walther P99, and my Steyr C9-A1).
Hopefully y'all enjoy!
CZ 2075 RAMI D, Ruger SR9C, HK P2000SK, Steyr S9-A1:
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/02/ef56c5982e5f56f6f92eaa437f9992ee.jpg)
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Height difference between Steyr S9-A1, HK P2000SK, CZ 100, HK P2000 (w/flat mag baseplate, CZ P-01 (w/G10 Thin grips), HK P30, Beretta PX4 Storm, Ruger SR9C (w/17 rd mag & extension sleeve):
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/02/e8d477e41754eda0aea2a0c5a2d6c37f.jpg)
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Thanks Cyanide, good stuff.
Man that HK has a big head on it. I have a P-2000 full size it has a huge head too.
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Havent visited this one for awhile. Wish it was a sticky.
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I'll second that motion[emoji2]
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Very Interesting! 8)
Here is a comparison of my own:
(http://i.imgur.com/umUXtYMl.jpg) (https://imgur.com/umUXtYM)
Mid-Size Striker Fired 9mm's
Left to Right
Taurus 24/7 Pro
Canik 55 TP-9
S&W Sigma SW9VE - with mild trigger work
As usual, once you've taken a family pic, yet another comes along.
(http://i.imgur.com/OWfsafGl.jpg) (https://imgur.com/OWfsafG)
Steyr L9A1 9mm Pistol
Range Report on this one coming soon, as I have been shooting it.
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Just spent a little bit of time perusing one of various Cabela's I visit in my travels across the country and decided to snap a few pictures of a couple of other pistols. My apologies for the poor lighting, as it wasn't exactly the greatest in there.
I chose these because I have one variant already with the PX4 D, and presently on layaway is a Sig P250 Compact (identical size as P320 Compact pictured here), and a FNH FNS-9.
Enjoy!
Sig P320C and FNH FNS-9
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/18/d09143250f55921acf0672e1dd73a5f2.jpg)
Beretta PX4 F and FNH FNS-9
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/18/cfb86daf193e31b9d67f710f37d76772.jpg)
Sig P224 and FNH FNS-9 Compact
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/18/8c7643d1cad2455393acc36e47d244a1.jpg)
And another one:
Beretta PX4 and Sig P229
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/04/c17908ad52de264703b5356351c54b88.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/04/2c8276808b6c59a141054cb1803cff43.jpg)
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Here's another few pics but from a different perspective; holding a few of them in hand, though several are only shown from one side. Just so I don't confuse anybody and to help with perception, I wear a small size glove. My apologies for the poor quality on several of these shots.
Glock 19 (Gen 3)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/21/f8a96b54fab580e13aaf31c4fb1e060c.jpg)
CZ P-07
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/21/0b40d8471ae9b25fe7caf1015ba3dd08.jpg)
FNH FNS-40
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/21/5e62cab4c216651ee27181c89bcd9e05.jpg)
FNH FNS-9 Compact
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/21/05c1ae2161b780128c7d44c3844f5b08.jpg)
Beretta PX4 Full Size
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/21/f23eb7474e0e110a7ceb3ee68a950556.jpg)
Beretta PX4 Subcompact
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/21/f13065aaa9c97903197d15f6873f41d1.jpg)
Steyr M9 (also for current M-A1 series)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/21/4cd5591317d88f2e7e1ed835fbbfb99b.jpg)
CZ 100
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/21/6efd766d6ef13601d65dd27a391fe4c7.jpg)
Sig P229, HK P2000, CZ P-01
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/21/05084e0bb0a7d569de19e1816bda080a.jpg)
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A few new pics to add:
CZ 100 and Glock 19
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/03/4e9d2403674bffc42698d9bfdaae7645.jpg)
Sig P250C (w/Small grip module) and Glock 19
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/03/a7beb26dbe3dbdb02f8abfc22561138a.jpg)
CZ 100, Glock 19, P250C (Small grip module), and Beretta PX4 D
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/03/b8f5a0646eb1f6e00a58798b19878c09.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/03/e34e2082bc92b0d42da3b6451168bda2.jpg)
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Thank you for the new additions Cyanide! I have referred quite a few folks to this thread, they have all found it helpful.
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Tok36, you're very welcome!
On a quick (personal) side note, we all know everybody likes to mess with me as my CZ 100 is my primary carry (though right now I am wearing my Glock), so I figured I would add in another few pics as to why I love it so much.
Look at how short the grip is front-to-back, and then, combined with the traditional CZ backstrap arch makes for one extremely comfortable pistol.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/05/3a0f524fb644b88f3a861de0e976b4c3.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/05/adeeb0815f3ec713446c4959c6a2680a.jpg)
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New pics of the Sphinx (w/small backstrap/palm swell) and Gen 4 Glock 19:
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/21/edef8da37dcb216b9c27f424036d3609.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/21/90b804cd2269598bf4cfe48c030dc5fb.jpg)
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Congratulations on the new Sphinx :) ............and the new Glock! ;)
You'll have to let us know how they shoot for You!
As for your Cz100, the closest I've ever been able to come to that, is my S&W SW9VE, which does have a different Grip Angle, but a similar Backstrap.
I've been carrying the SW9VE most of the Summer and plan to keep carrying it on into the Winter.
I have become more accustomed to it's DAO Trigger and have removed that horrible pigtail rebound spring, which makes the Trigger now equivalent to the newer SD9VE's.
I'm considering having the Slide Cerakoted flat Black.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/549/medium/SW9VE.jpg)
S&W SW9VE with minor trigger job, removing the bottom pigtail spring
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Congratulations on the new Sphinx :) ............and the new Glock! ;)
You'll have to let us know how they shoot for You!
As for your Cz100, the closest I've ever been able to come to that, is my S&W SW9VE, which does have a different Grip Angle, but a similar Backstrap.
I've been carrying the SW9VE most of the Summer and plan to keep carrying it on into the Winter.
I have become more accustomed to it's DAO Trigger and have removed that horrible pigtail rebound spring, which makes the Trigger now equivalent to the newer SD9VE's.
I'm considering having the Slide Cerakoted flat Black.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/549/medium/SW9VE.jpg)
S&W SW9VE with minor trigger job, removing the bottom pigtail spring
Posted in my latest "Day at the range" post. And how dare you call your SW9VE a DAO. You take that back right now! [emoji6]
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Feuding cousins!
CZ P-07 and Sphinx SDP Compact
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And how dare you call your SW9VE a DAO. You take that back right now! [emoji6]
ROFLAMO! ;D (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing025.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Never! ;)
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Here's one that a few people may be interested in, as they both draw a lot of comparisons since being so close in size and, with the continuously growing popularity of the P-07...
CZ P-07 (Duty) vs Glock 19 (Gen 4)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/23/a1f06bc7504ba6bed4ecbf6f6ce0dba3.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/23/9707364e8d9c2dc54db321a2a5709765.jpg)
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You can show me all the pictures you want, I still am not interested nor will I ever be in the Glock.😉
I think you should have kept your Walthers.
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You can show me all the pictures you want, I still am not interested nor will I ever be in the Glock.
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UGH, Tapatalk messing up on my phone and not posting my entire message! [emoji35]
Try again, minus the quote from Fireman Jones!!!
Hey now, not trying to interest ya in it FJ! It just seems that almost everyone uses the Glock 19 as the benchmark for a compact pistol, and strangely enough a lot of people don't realize there are plenty of awesome compact pistols out there, and they aren't named Glock!
But it will always take a backseat to the P-07, as will just about everything else ('cept my CZ 100). And you know those Walthers all went to great, loving, caring homes hahahahahaha. Once that first ever P-07 Duty melted into my hand, it was all over; my journey to the Dark Side was complete!
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On a quick (personal) side note, we all know everybody likes to mess with me as my CZ 100 is my primary carry (though right now I am wearing my Glock), so I figured I would add in another few pics as to why I love it so much.
I am glad to hear that you are not going over to the Dark Side, but you are carrying that Glock over your CZ100! :o ;)Hey now, not trying to interest ya in it FJ! It just seems that almost everyone uses the Glock 19 as the benchmark for a compact pistol, and strangely enough a lot of people don't realize there are plenty of awesome compact pistols out there, and they aren't named Glock!
But it will always take a backseat to the P-07, as will just about everything else ('cept my CZ 100).
Man I am glad you cleared that up, I was starting to worry. 8)
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As an owner of 3 Glocks, they are awesome in their own right. Each his own, right?
rich63
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Yea right, relax, just having fun with my buddy.
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Glock does have a crazy low bore axis. I shot a P07 1st gen, and a G19 3rd gen, side by side. Glock had lower muzzle flip for the same S&B 124 gr ammo. Both pistols were factory. The only Glock that does appeal t me is a G34.
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This thread is amazing, I've been considering a ppq for ccw, nice to see how it co.pares against a p07
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My P-07 isn't fully Cajunized, so I would say the PPQ handles better than the P-07.
Now the PPQ has a light trigger out of the box, many carry it but a good many will carry the P99 since it has the option to use DA/SA. Also the P99 comes in a compact similar to the RAMI.
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Let's add a few more to the mix, shall we?
S&W M&P 45 Mid-size and CZ P-07
*(M&P 45 Midsize practically identical in size to the M&P 9 full size model):
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160225/5d8426bd02f706a0d57bc50aa1a61d2e.jpg)
Sig P250 Compact and CZ P-07:
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160224/180490e9ac00c53b38c4294b17de4d61.jpg)
S&W M&P 45 Mid-size and CZ P-09:
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A pair of .45's in the Sig P320 Compact and S&W M&P 45 Mid-size:
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160224/1fecc162464dbb30fc42ae0cdaad2a86.jpg)
S&W M&P 45 Mid-size and Beretta PX4 Full-size:
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160224/d053ad5f9aec81dc032b684e260f7b02.jpg)
Springfield XD9 Service and FNH FNS 9:
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160224/6817c97ab5970f079f43216a1289230f.jpg)
Springfield XDm9 3.8 and XD9 Service:
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160224/31ab0de827dcfd4603cd1662b7253666.jpg)
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OK Cyanide, 1)which is the most comfortable to hold, 2) to shoot and 3)which is you favorite, the CZ100?
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OK Cyanide, 1)which is the most comfortable to hold, 2) to shoot and 3)which is you favorite, the CZ100?
That's easy, these four!
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Right now, for overall use, my DAO P-07 is #1, followed by the CZ 100, PX4 D, then my P-09 MHS (gotta send it out to Stuart and the CZC crew to lighten and smooth the trigger pull).
To answer your specific questions:
1. Most comfortable is the CZ 100 (following it's full stipple job), with the P-07 on it's heels, and the Beretta not far behind.
2. Love shooting my CZ 100, but the Duty's DAO conversion is absolutely phenomenal. You would have to shoot it to truly experience the joy I'm getting from it. Thinking we need to organize a CZ Meet & Greet down the road!
3. The P-07 has quickly moved into my #1 spot but, if it was still the factory DA/SA setup, I'd choose my CZ 100.
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Are you going to make it to Walther's Meet and Greet this year?
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Are you going to make it to Walther's Meet and Greet this year?
Unfortunately, no. The scheduling always conflicts with my military reunions in April and/or May. Me being an over the road driver, I pretty much have my entire time off schedule mapped out every year in accordance with holidays and other special events with my son.
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I had a Beretta 81 cheetah for a few days this year. Took some pics to compare it to my 75 Compact 9mm. Not as comprehensive as Cyanide, but I figured I would share if anyone is curious about this little pistol.
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Nice work, Scarlett Pistol. Interesting to see how much fatter the grip on that 7.65mm Beretta appears to be.
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Thanks! Yeah,the grip was smaller front to back but so wide. The lack of aftermarket grips was unappealing to me. Neat gun, but the profit I made on it helped fund my new SP-01. 😈
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I still wonder why Beretta will not make a 9mm in the Cheeta size, with all these sub compacts I think they could do it.
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I'm surprised too. Lots of people like the Cheetah. I didn't like the difficulty of detail stripping it and lack of aftermarket parts. Then with its size ratios it's not that great for carry. But those are just my thoughts.
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I still wonder why Beretta will not make a 9mm in the Cheeta size, with all these sub compacts I think they could do it.
They do it's called the Beretta 9000 series.
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I still wonder why Beretta will not make a 9mm in the Cheeta size, with all these sub compacts I think they could do it.
Beretta. Because you suck, and we hate you! Oops, forgot that's HK lol.
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Wahoo, it's polymer and the Cheeta is not.
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I'm with ya FJ. The Cheeta is a good little packin size, and seems like it would be a good fit. Always liked the looks.
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Sorry this isn't going to be much gang, but got bored earlier and took several pictures of my new P93 DAO next to my CZ 100. In the upcoming days, provided I can get back through the house, I will pick up another couple of my new additions and post pics of them, and hopefully next to the P-07 (it's taking a break from EDC so that the 100 gets a turn).
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Then a couple separate shots of how narrow the P93's grip is when compared to the upper thickness, which for me and my small hands translates into a very comfortable pistol to hold and shoot, especially with it having all of the weight pretty much in the slide on top of that light alloy frame (unlike a classic Sig P-series or Beretta 92 = fat grips).
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More later!
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More please. :D
Edit: The rear sight set screw of the P93 is offset. Is there a design reason for this that you are aware of?
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Thanks for this picture thread. Very helpful.
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Best thread on the internet
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Thanks gang, glad y'all enjoy it!
Tok36, I honestly have no idea why Ruger did that, but IIRC, the three P95's I previously owned were the same. Must just be the way that Ruger designed them.
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Thanks gang, glad y'all enjoy it!
Tok36, I honestly have no idea why Ruger did that, but IIRC, the three P95's I previously owned were the same. Must just be the way that Ruger designed them.
Interesting, i was thinking that maybe they hid something under the sight like on the M&P Pistols.
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Sorry these won't be the best of pictures gang, but now that I have all of them together, say hello to the newest four members of my family (including the aforementioned P93 DAO)!
Some of you may recognize them, some might not since three of them have been discontinued for a number of years. Clockwise from the top, left to right:
Browning BDM, S&W 5943 SSV, Ruger P93 DAO, S&W SD9VE.
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I only had enough time to swing through the house for picking these up, and won't be able to get to the range to run some rounds through them until week after next, since next weekend when I get home I will be immediately picking up my son and going out of town for a few days doing stuff for his 17th birthday. [emoji2]
A quick, yet very rough shot of them side-by-side in order of the CZ 100, BDM, 5943, P93, and SD9VE, and then other comparison shots will be with my CZ 100 as the benchmark since one, it's still my #1 EDC, and two, it's almost identical in dimensions to my, okay, our beloved P-07 and the world renowned Glock 19.
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I will say this, the Browning BDM grip is freaking tiny for a double stack 9mm (even though mine only has the 10 rd mags, regular capacity was 15).
I'm also going to pick up a straight backstrap grip panel for the 5943, just to make it a tiny bit more comfortable. And then, night sights will be ordered and installed on all that have the option available.
More later! [emoji6]
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Nice bunch of newer handguns! 8) Congratulations and may they serve you well! :)
I have your SD9VE's direct ancestor, the SW9VE, albeit with a slight Trigger Job removing that horrible pigtail Spring.
Quite recently, I installed a green Fiber Optic Front Sight. I carry it often.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/549/medium/SW9VE.jpg)
S&W SW9VE with minor trigger job, removing the bottom pigtail spring
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The 5943 is a hoot to shoot with that pre-cocked DAO. Definitely feels better for me with a straight backstrap.
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JWC, thanks as always! The trigger pull on mine doesn't feel really all that bad compared to the original, older models. Dare I say I actually like it, because it reminds me of a true double action trigger.
The 5943 is a hoot to shoot with that pre-cocked DAO. Definitely feels better for me with a straight backstrap.
Can't wait Psyop! I swear I must've dry fired it alone at least 200x yesterday lol. Yeah, I myself am definitely digging on this trigger; it reminds me of my CZC DAO-converted P-07 with how smooth it is, just with a shorter trigger pull, obviously no second-strike capability, and it feels just a little heavier in the pull weight. It also feels really good in my hand as well, right up there with my CZ 100 and P-07, just with a slightly more hand filling grip. [emoji6]
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A comparison picture for old-time nostalgia! The S&W 5943 SSV and Ruger P93. My apologies for the glare off of the slides, as I had to use the flash to minimize the shadows caused by the available lighting I had.
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Then the Smitty and the Browning BDM:
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Now back to more modern stuff hahaha. In all honesty, I can't believe I forgot to upload this picture months ago, especially since the XD9 has been sold off, and the Glock might not be too far behind it if it doesn't straighten it's act up!
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Finally getting around to adding a few new images in here for y'all to dissect/critique/laugh at hahaha. There will still be a few more to come in the future!
CZ 2075 RAMI BD and P-07 Duty:
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FNH FNS 9 and CZ P-07 Duty:
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160826/96ce7fdd6b7ffe9b289e277f286be4ed.jpg)
FNH FNS 9 and Gen 4 Glock 17:
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*Glock w/no additional backstrap then the FNS w/arched then flat backstraps.
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This next one is a combo of images courtesy of a good friend who sent them to me to show the size of a pistol I'm strongly considering trading one of my Glocks for, a rare DAO FNP9-M (that would only need night sights for me).
Gen 2 Glock 19 and FNH FNP9-M (*I had to work a little image editing for one of the shots in there):
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Took a few new pics of my P-07 Duty alongside an old FNP9-M:
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If you have a caliper, can you tell us what the grip width of the P-07 and FNP are?
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If you have a caliper, can you tell us what the grip width of the P-07 and FNP are?
I don't have a caliper, but I do have a metal tape measure. Sorry for the crude method of measuring but hopefully this will give you an idea to try answering your question.
FNP9-M:
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160902/f56ac35d57dd482c19ce33fbe87aac86.jpg)
P-07 Duty:
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160902/bae0bf430c6f0d44361121bd82354d3f.jpg)
Just for the heck of it, the Gen 4 Glock 17:
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And finally, the RAMI (*sorry, a bit tired out from a long day at work):
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Thank you so much. That's very helpful.
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Another few shots since I was finally able to pick up my 6946's earlier. My apologies that I don't have a whole ton of new pictures to show.
S&W 6946 and Gen 4 Glock 19 (w/modified grip):
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One 6946 w/stock 12-rd finger extension mag, the other w/stock 15-rd mag and grip extension. Yes, you're seeing double (presently have a pair of 'em, both equipped identically):
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Beretta PX4 F and 8040 F:
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HK USP Compact and Glock 19:
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A new set of images of couple new additions to the family. This segment will include my Bersa Thunder 380 Plus, RAMI BD, and SCCY CPX-2. My apologies for not getting all of the angles/sizes matched up.
And yes, I know, all the images show the RAMI with it's extended mag and sleeve in place. Wanted to give a fair representation since the Bersa is a 15+1. I'll add more images later of it (RAMI) with the flush 10-rd mag separately beside the SCCY, as it's also 10+1.
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Bersa Thunder 380 Plus and CZ RAMI:
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This will be a very unorthodox comparison shot, but was bored a few moments ago and figured I would put this unlikely pair together, which coincidentally happens to be my top two current selections for EDC. Y'all already know what one of 'em is, even without seeing the pictures hahahahaha!!!
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After looking through this whole thread all I can say is WOW !!!!
All these side-by-side comparisons could help people make up their mind as to what they want to buy , this is fantastic fellows, thank you all for contributing. Moderator this should be a sticky
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After looking through this whole thread all I can say is WOW !!!!
All these side-by-side comparisons could help people make up their mind as to what they want to buy , this is fantastic fellows, thank you all for contributing. Moderator this should be a sticky
OH BOY, my wife is looking over my shoulder while looking at this thread and she said, don't even think about it. You guys got me in trouble again :(
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Thanks Doc, but don't blame me! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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A quick update with some pictures provided by a good friend of mine who just picked up his CZ P10 C earlier today, and sent me a few shots of it next to his P-07 Duty so everyone could get an idea of how they compare in size.
CZ P10 C vs P-07 Duty:
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Ask him which one he likes more! I can't decide whether I'd rather stick with the tried and true P-07 or go with the P10C.
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Ask him which one he likes more! I can't decide whether I'd rather stick with the tried and true P-07 or go with the P10C.
Personally, I'm sticking with my CZ 100, DAO P-07, and Glock 23 for now. As for him, here's what he had to say:
"Well, it's here. Didn't get taken like some of the blokes, but still paid more than the LGS (when they show up). I know people wanted some comparisons to the P-07. I tossed a TLR on it since that's how I run the P-07.
1st thoughts. I'll come right out and say the trigger isn't to die for like the reviews are all saying. It's crisp for a stock trigger, the reset is short. It's still pretty darn stiff. I dry fired it a couple hundred times. Maybe slightly better. I measured 5.5-6lbs. I talked with the guy at Cajun GW, no parts yet but soon. The mag release also very stiff.
Feel is nice. Fills out my hand better than the P-07 with the medium back strap. The thickest one mimics the VP9/PPQ design. I'd say medium is similar to XDM. Grip angle is comfy and natural. This is the most course grip I've ever felt on a gun. The FNX had a rough diamond grip. This one is like a mud tire (for the dirt bike crowd). Light switch reach is noticeably further, but still within reason.
Fits the FNS holster with the TLR. I picked up a Glock 17 holster that fits without the light. Sights are the newer CZ 3-dot. They glow when charged, but aren't considered 'night sights'. The mags are backwards compatible with the P-07, but the ambi mag release hole doesn't let the 07 mags work. The newer P-09 mags do not work. I'll play with a couple 07 mags to see if I can fix that part. The base pads are slightly thicker on the P10 mags. I'll see if I get some time within the next couple days to take it to the range."
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Sweet! Sad to hear about that trigger since it seems everyone else is reporting ~4lb triggers. I need to get my hands on one.
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*Picture credit to TexasPOff from Glock Talk, and they're some excellent shots!
CZ P10 C vs Gen 4 Glock 19:
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One of my LGS's got in a P-10 C for their rentals, and though I didn't have enough time to shoot it any, they were nice enough to let me snap a few pics of it beside my (lightly modded) Gen 4 Glock 19. Hope y'all enjoy!
Glock 19 and CZ P-10 C:
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Good stuff, thank you for the pics.
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Good stuff, thank you for the pics.
Tok36, you're very welcome!
Here's another set I just did a few days ago with a recently acquired pistol that a very good friend of mine literally just purchased from me. And no, it wasn't my Glock I got rid of LOL!
Beretta PX4 G Compact and Gen 4 Glock 19:
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Awesome comparison pictures , very helpful indeed.
Thanks for taking time to do all that !
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Outstanding!
I see where that hammer got your thumb...ouch.
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PX4 is an underrated pistol. Except for the slide mounted safety, I might have got it instead of the CZ.
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Outstanding!
I see where that hammer got your thumb...ouch.
Hammer hasn't gotten my thumb in years! [emoji23] Which set of pictures are you referring to also? If it is the FDE P-10 C/Glock 19 set, I borrowed those from a gentleman on the Glock Forum.
Awesome comparison pictures , very helpful indeed.
Thanks for taking time to do all that !
You're very welcome! I actually have a lot of fun putting these pictures together. Though, it was a lot easier when I had a much larger and varied collection LOL.
PX4 is an underrated pistol. Except for the slide mounted safety, I might have got it instead of the CZ.
That's why I still have the full-size DAO model, slick slide! Though the slide mounted lever doesn't bother me when it is configured as a "G" model (decock-only).
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I got a Shield in 9mm for my daughter and I to compare to the LC9S and she likes it and shoots it well enough that I'm going to give it to her. They're very similar but we both shoot the Shield better than the LC9S. I do like the LC9S for the melted edges, etc... The LC9S is definitely 'snappier' to shoot. The Shield has a trigger pull of around 5.5 lbs and the LC9S is around 4.5 lbs. I'm planning on replacing the Ruger with a Sig P290RS for my subcompact carry since my other carry pieces are DA first pull but I'll keep it as a boat gun or whatever. Anyway, I decided to take some comparison shots. They both have the Hogue HANDALL S&W M&P Shield/Ruger LC9 Beavertail Grip Sleeve installed and both have their flush-fit mags for comparison. I'm fairly slim but I can pocket-carry either in jeans with those mags/baseplates
(https://s1.postimg.cc/5uiu0xpdb/lc9s_shield001.jpg)
(https://s1.postimg.cc/tzjjin9nz/lc9s_shield002.jpg)
(https://s1.postimg.cc/493k94f5b/lc9s_shield003.jpg)
(https://s1.postimg.cc/fk67xhm0f/lc9s_shield004.jpg)(https://s1.postimg.org/u0thc2bhr/lc9s_shield005.jpg)(https://s1.postimg.cc/kub6os69b/lc9s_shield006.jpg)
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Nice shots, thank you for the additions!
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Thank you for all your many comparisons.
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Thank you for all your many comparisons.
You are so very welcome. I should have another set of pictures coming within the next few days, provided everything works out as planned?
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Hmmmm, could that be what I think it is? [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
P-10 C and CZ 100:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170817/cda0f483c14be739bc681ce769d12dc8.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170817/631d828f542f971079f0f2318fab064e.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170817/be5d28baeef800baafbb11c6f028069f.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170817/61b224455cebe15529dd2aab80b242f6.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170817/f8db928b0a1f49f54f66a0699452d632.jpg)
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Gen 4 Glock 19 and CZ P-10 C:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170818/2e5ac4481825db7035c37915b0bf3342.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170818/e7da191466a19e053ef87643209c25b2.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170818/b20953974126db85a40ae221d270a254.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170818/425aa80287e2ebf348557e8dbc034047.jpg)
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Updated shots of the P-10C and P-07 Duty:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171005/97f03ba5542f70ddefb23e9f67aa2a30.jpg)
I'll say it, the P?07 feels smaller than it's new striker fire brother. At least to me anyway. Not saying it is more comfortable in my hands, mind you?
And since many are chomping at the bit for the future full size P-10, here's the P-10 C and P-09 MHS:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171005/082b0e92b0513a26a153ec3512321d21.jpg)
Properly lined up, with their trigger guards even:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171020/1408a9bd2473abeeecad40777199148f.jpg)
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I got a SIG P290RS awhile ago and since I posted a comparison between the LC9S and the Shield, I thought I'd compare the RS to the LC. They both have their flush mags for comparison purposes. Obviously the RS has a heavier, DAO trigger compared to the LC9S. The felt recoil is much less with the RS, probably due in part to the heavier weigh of it (20.5 oz vs 17 oz). Although heavier, the RS is slightly smaller than the LC and in my opinion it's just enough of a difference to make it a better pocket carry experience. I took a photo of each in the same pocket holster to get a sense of how the LC sticks out a bit more in both directions.
(https://s19.postimg.cc/flm263vkz/LC9_S_P290_RS001.jpg)
(https://s19.postimg.cc/juqs89boz/LC9_S_P290_RS002.jpg)
(https://s19.postimg.cc/5ob1d1g9f/LC9_S_P290_RS003.jpg)
(https://s19.postimg.cc/i2xtddn77/LC9_S_P290_RS004.jpg)
(https://s19.postimg.cc/499gob7gj/LC9_S_P290_RS005.jpg)
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Gwvt, my apologies for such a late response, but great shots!
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These are some fantastic comparisons. This thread should be sticky.
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CZ-75 SP-01 Tactical (9x19mm) and CZ-97BD (.45 ACP). They are virtually identical in weight when both are in full loadout condition. Dimensionally there are some differences, but for all intents, they are very, very similar overall.
https://imageshack.com/a/img923/8007/HU6cNP.jpg
GS
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These are some fantastic comparisons. This thread should be sticky.
Thank you very much! I plan to have a few more comparison shots coming in the future as well.
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This is truly a great thread, thank you Cyanide!
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Been meaning to do this one for a while, and now can finally get around to it. Nothing major, just a couple of my relatively newer, repeated additions.
Beretta PX4 Compact and HK P2000SK
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190615/85ccaac2eb1454b7c943be10e10994ca.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190615/57bd7e0c5a165ccb899d62025ce0764a.jpg)
Two points; one is the obvious fact that I used both my P2KSK V3 AND V2 LEM for the shots. Two, the bottom image shows the HK with the newer 13-rd mag intended for the P30 SK/VP9SK to demonstrate height comparison. It makes a world of difference to me, in spite of carrying a couple less rounds. Works fine in spite of not matching the P2000SK?s aesthetics.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190615/ee487b88b00f1019c3b056a418d32685.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190615/84e12047014218ecb5fc60cb81143bec.jpg)
Now to get the Beretta ?fixed up? haha. Working on possibly converting it to DAO like my factory full-size ?D? Model, and of that doesn?t pan out I?ll just go the route of a ?G? conversion with slim decock levers. Either way, putting the filler plug in place of the right side slide stop/release lever and adding night sights very soon as well.
This is truly a great thread, thank you Cyanide!
You?re very welcome!
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That HK makes me think of HiPoint :o
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That HK makes me think of HiPoint :o
Bwahahahahahahaha!
Here?s a few quick shots I snapped earlier today of the newest family member beside one I?ve had for awhile.
Sig P365 (12-rd mag) and Sig P230:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190616/64a490255bdcddd34f4cd2f9dadc545e.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190616/d7ef40a7eb08d41f392d12f622d5155b.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190616/c164638229db5d5e2ccb33e50e4c74ac.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190616/d4e674587691a22edd0821dbff674d1d.jpg)
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Wow. This thread is a great idea. Thank you.
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I don't think ive spent more time on a single thread than this one. from the fantastic pic comparisons to the responses of the other forum members. although I think I only 1 of the pistols mentioned, it was all a great read 8)
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CrazyDave and Puddintame, thank you! Will have a few more pics coming within the next several weeks. [emoji6]
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Quick update as promised. My apologies for so many shots of the Glock, just figured I’d better include a few comparisons of it before it leaves my inventory.
Glock 26 vs Sig P365:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190706/de27074ab790ecefd7891714ed41a3a5.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190706/d55909319609edcaa4cd467eac585317.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190706/e82ed0736bc91a4df38bf1c672a9594a.jpg)
Glock 26 vs HK P2000SK:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190706/654ca0cb36a2ffd72799155a66a17bdf.jpg)
Glock 26 vs Beretta PX4 Compact:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190706/1097eda48050419f4fae446c0c268f2b.jpg)
I’m throwing this last image in to show relationship of the actual grip length. The Glock is wearing a simple Pearce finger extension that offers no capacity increase.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190706/91c7ea62dfa1b63b9ddd41881f85e4d0.jpg)
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Without the extension, that Glock 26's grip would be waaaaay too short for me and I would want some sort of capacity increase with an extension.
Congratulations on the Sig P365! 8) Very Nice!!! :)
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To late for a G26 vs CZ RAMI photo? Especially the width.
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To late for a G26 vs CZ RAMI photo? Especially the width.
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Best I can do is one of the ancient pics of my old RAMI beside the HK P2000SK, and use that as a reference with the HK beside this G26. Wait one....
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*This next image is not mine.
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Good stuff, thanks.
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I found this on the web what a great tool for comparing pistols.
They don't have every pistol but quite a few.
http://www.handgunhero.com/
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To late for a G26 vs CZ RAMI photo? Especially the width.
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Here is a couple videos where they compare the G26 and Rami.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX4SxuV_eLo&t=289s
Jump to 5:20 and he does a G27 and Rami compare:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbp_-xsNP0k&t=348s
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To late for a G26 vs CZ RAMI photo? Especially the width.
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Glock G26 Gen4 CZ 2075 RAMI
Length 6.49" 6.50"
Height 4.17" 4.70"
Width 1.26" 1.25"
Weight 21.71 oz 25.90 oz
Barrel Length 3.42" 3.05"
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To late for a G26 vs CZ RAMI photo? Especially the width.
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Glock G26 Gen4 CZ 2075 RAMI
Length 6.49" 6.50"
Height 4.17" 4.70"
Width 1.26" 1.25"
Weight 21.71 oz 25.90 oz
Barrel Length 3.42" 3.05"
Thanks, though I never compare factory numbers. They typically refer to the widest point, such as the slide stop for the width, which is not really relevant for concealed carry. Width of the butt is much better, but never given.
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1/8 of an inch here 1/8 of an inch there doesn't make much of a difference. Sometimes not even that.
Something I don't even really worried about if fits my hand well and shoots very well I'll carry it.
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...Something I don't even really worry about if fits my hand well and shoots very well I'll carry it.
^^^^THIS!
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True. I've gotten to where I even value a full grip more than height these days.
Ok.... End hijack :)
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A few new shots for y’all:
Glock 45 and Beretta PX4 Full-size (both 17+1. Third pic shows PX4 w/20-rd extended mag)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190814/870af185e3ecf3b717e5063070b694fd.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190814/e640c0cc5f2f38d6876f91ead2b1c126.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190814/b8b061bf9fffb0c742e23b0ef7a1e838.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190814/71d9e740e2a73905554d7f54fd1d7317.jpg)
Colt Night Cobra and Sig P365
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190814/38c1d3333127fa849156d34895c976b2.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190814/0637e1ca8e5c352963ebebfff0ea116e.jpg)
Colt Night Cobra and S&W 686 Plus 3”
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190814/aecbe3fbfc8b68e7c853030b08d77c75.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190814/4dfcf45701868e61cf7880d38e282607.jpg)
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I really like this thread. Thanks Cyanide!
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I really like this thread. Thanks Cyanide!
No, thank you! [emoji1303]
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Wonderful Pics of some very very nice guns. 8) Love those Revolvers!
Have you considered the new Walther CCP M2? It has a light DAO Trigger.
I'm considering getting one.
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Wonderful Pics of some very very nice guns. 8) Love those Revolvers!
Have you considered the new Walther CCP M2? It has a light DAO Trigger.
I'm considering getting one.
JWC007, thank you! No, I haven’t. Pretty well set on what I’ve currently got and have a few other things on layaway still to acquire. LOL
Speaking of DAO, friend of mine who’s a bigger Beretta fan than I am is converting my PX4 Compact to DAO for me with what should end up around a 7 lb. or so trigger pull, right in line with my DAO P-07 Duty, P-09 MHS, and PX4 D Full-size. Hehehehehe [emoji48]
But back to what I currently have, here’s the trigger pull on the new Night Cobra, seems to be around 8 or 9 pounds, and very smooth!
https://youtu.be/HJqcQEGXXl0
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2 that might be of interest: CZ P01 vs Beretta PX4 Compact carry. They're basically the same size and weight.
Unloaded weight: CZ P01: 28.1 ounces Beretta PX4 CC: 27.4 ounces
Width: CZ P01: 1.38 inches Beretta PX4 CC: 1.4 inches.
Length: CZ P01: 7.2 inches Beretta PX4 CC: 6.8 inches
Height: CZ P01: 5 inches Beretta PX4 CC: 5 inches.
Please note in the photos I have 92 style decocker levers on the PX4 CC. When used for carry I have the flat "stealth" levers installed. The 92 style levers are easier to decock when running a bunch of 1st shot DA then 2 SA drills.
(https://i.imgur.com/JnX3ocxl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/b4n1F3hl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/cKsWcqBl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/viwtxBml.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/m8gSZnfl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XRCM6uel.jpg)
The trigger on the Beretta is better, I've installed the LTT 11 pound hammer spring, it already had the Competition Trigger Group installed at the factory. The CZ is still stock at this time. I will be installing a CGW Defensive carry package in the near future.
Accuracy is ammo dependent. Best defense load for the CZ P01 is 124gr +P Gold Dots followed closely by 124gr +p Golden Sabers. Best defense loads in the Beretta PX4 CC 147gr HST followed by 147gr Gold Dots. Both group about the same with my 115gr and 147gr FMJ reloads.
My wife shoots the P01 slightly better, I shoot the CC slightly better. Enough to trade or sell off one or the other? Nope.
The Beretta hold 1 more round, I don't consider that a big deal at all.
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2 that might be of interest: CZ P01 vs Beretta PX4 Compact carry. They're basically the same size and weight.
Un Loaded weight: CZ P01: 28.1 ounces Beretta PX4 CC: 27.4 ounces
Width: CZ P01: 1.38 inches Beretta PX4 CC: 1.4 inches.
Length: CZ P01: 7.2 inches Beretta PX4 CC: 6.8 inches
Height: CZ P01: 5 inches Beretta PX4 CC: 5 inches.
Please note in the photos I have 92 style decocker levers on the PX4 CC. When used for carry I have the flat "stealth" levers installed. The 92 style levers are easier to decock when running a bunch of 1st shot DA then 2 SA drills.
The trigger on the Beretta is better, I've installed the LTT 11 pound hammer spring, it already had the Competition Trigger Group installed at the factory. The CZ is still stock at this time. I will be installing a CGW Defensive carry package in the near future.
Accuracy is ammo simply dependent. Best defense load for the CZ P01 is 124gr +P Gold Dots followed closely by 124gr +p Golden Sabers. Best defense loads in the Beretta PX4 CC 147gr HST followed by 147gr Gold Dots. Both group about the same with my 115gr and 147gr FMJ reloads.
My wife shoots the P01 slightly better, I shoot the CC slightly better. Enough to trade or sell off one or the other? Nope.
The Beretta hold 1 more round, I don't consider that a big deal at all.
My CZ P-01 measures 1.18" wide at the thin aluminum grips. What does the PX4CC grip measure?
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With the Talon grips in place the PX4 CC is 1.22 inches wide without 1.20 inches.
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With the Talon grips in place the PX4 CC is 1.22 inches wide without 1.20 inches.
Thanks!
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Thanks to the recent input, y’all rock! Here’s a quick couple of new pics I just snapped earlier.
Charter Arms On-Duty and Colt Night Cobra (w/aftermarket Hogue grip):
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190920/267a5ce1097c94b417a2f296a90b092e.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190920/c9b5ad962e1f692270b92bef11fc4961.jpg)
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Finally getting around to posting pics of my P-07 and Beretta PX4 Compact, which even though now is DAO (w/LTT 11# mainspring), has the Stealth decock levers installed for maintaining as slim a profile as possible.
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200417/f4866eae88ce605338f0229d3744df67.jpg)
This image shows them first with their respective flush 15-rd mags. The middle pic shows the P-07 with a P-09 19-rd mag, and the Beretta with a +3 extension. The bottom pic has the CZ sporting a P-09 mag with +2 extension, and the Beretta a +3 extension on a full-size model’s 17-rd mag.
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Thanks again for doing this.
So, it looks like the PX4 grip is both a little shorter and a little fatter than the P-07. is that right?
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Thanks again for doing this.
So, it looks like the PX4 grip is both a little shorter and a little fatter than the P-07. is that right?
You’re very welcome. Just a little, but still plenty of room for a full, three-finger grip and very hand filling. Here’s some quick measurements I just took.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200419/2bf2138abb4e4c0696e94a51d294da9d.jpg)
Beretta PX4 Compact (Small Backstrap):
Grip width (front to back): 2 3/16”.
Grip forestrap length (to bottom of mag baseplate): 2 3/8”.
Grip circumference at trigger guard undercut: 5 7/16”.
Grip circumference at bottom of grip: 5 7/8”.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200419/4d9dd2154e39d777a23d748df633b3e3.jpg)
CZ P-07 Duty:
Grip Width: 2 3/16“ (Same).
Grip forestrap length: 2 1/4”.
Grip circumference at trigger guard undercut: 5 1/2”.
Grip circumference at bottom of grip: 6 3/16”.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200419/6a804b5a119e585676c830259a18558b.jpg)
Glock 19 (Gen 4):
Grip Width: 2”.
Grip forestrap length: 2 1/2”.
Grip circumference at trigger guard undercut: 5 11/16”.
Grip circumference at bottom of grip: 6”.
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what is essential is invisible to the eye. I mean the trigger pull. P07 has a better trigger than P4 storm.
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what is essential is invisible to the eye. I mean the trigger pull. P07 has a better trigger than P4 storm.
I love CZ’s but in stock, out of the box form I’ll have to kindly disagree when comparing the Omega trigger to the PX4 (and 92/96).
Now, with how mine are setup in DAO configurations, my P-07 Duty and P-09 MHS have very sweet, smooth 6.5# and 7# pulls respectively, versus about 7.5# for my PX4 Compact and around 9# for my full size, then 8.5# on my CZ 100 (stock except for addition of night sights and grip stippling).
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200420/ffc8e543bfdd083df39117cd1fb0de82.jpg)
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I must agree with Cyanide. Right out of the box Beretta has the better trigger from what I have experienced. Now after some work they are both excellent, but different.
Thanks for sharing all of these photos. I have been interested in the PX4 for a while, but just never go for it when I find one. Especially since I love the P07 and P09 so much. Just curious, but can you provide the trigger reach measurement on both the P07 and PX4 CC in DA decocked? From what I seem to remember the last Px4 I held it seemed to have a longer trigger reach than the P07.
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I must agree with Cyanide. Right out of the box Beretta has the better trigger from what I have experienced. Now after some work they are both excellent, but different.
Thanks for sharing all of these photos. I have been interested in the PX4 for a while, but just never go for it when I find one. Especially since I love the P07 and P09 so much. Just curious, but can you provide the trigger reach measurement on both the P07 and PX4 CC in DA decocked? From what I seem to remember the last Px4 I held it seemed to have a longer trigger reach than the P07.
Claymore, unless someone beats me to the punch, I’ll measure those once I get back home in another couple of weeks. Just left out last night and haven’t been able to IM or reply here due to “system and network issues”.
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I must agree with Cyanide. Right out of the box Beretta has the better trigger from what I have experienced. Now after some work they are both excellent, but different.
Thanks for sharing all of these photos. I have been interested in the PX4 for a while, but just never go for it when I find one. Especially since I love the P07 and P09 so much. Just curious, but can you provide the trigger reach measurement on both the P07 and PX4 CC in DA decocked? From what I seem to remember the last Px4 I held it seemed to have a longer trigger reach than the P07.
Claymore, unless someone beats me to the punch, I’ll measure those once I get back home in another couple of weeks. Just left out last night and haven’t been able to IM or reply here due to “system and network issues”.
I appreciate it, sir. No rush. Be safe out there.
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I appreciate it, sir. No rush. Be safe out there.
Claymore, sorry for the delay! Hopefully these help out with your question, snapped quickly before getting back to work.
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Claymore, sorry for the delay! Hopefully these help out with your question, snapped quickly before getting back to work.
Getting back for work, acuiring more CZs. This is the way. ;D
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Claymore, sorry for the delay! Hopefully these help out with your question, snapped quickly before getting back to work.
Getting back for work, acuiring more CZs. This is the way. ;D
[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Not according to my dogs!
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Something a little different, my current three revolvers beside each other. From left to right, the 5 shot .38 Special Charter Arms OnDuty, 6 shot .38 Special Colt Night Cobra, 7 shot .357 Magnum Taurus 617:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200607/96975e2032974bf9a020b152dc0a73ab.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200607/d3e8c014587febe912143acf2c74159d.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200607/45a414c4edc4109e94d8336fc5686204.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200607/ae81c5765b63c8f1296c2978bd0a9230.jpg)
Now for their fully loaded weights. First up is the Charter Arms:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200607/399a0b80505e172db618c01d233d05de.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200607/2cdb5d30cc6352b3b2405bf5e88d4708.jpg)
Next the Night Cobra:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200608/985d33574394666089a81686e6201911.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200608/62d1a69708062fea50a832c313ed1d34.jpg)
Finally, the Taurus:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200608/87193e866d7e938517988b7ff611c431.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200608/a1cf02e01e7545245c92e03a5caac62f.jpg)
Finally, how they fit (and look) in my predominant firing hand:
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Stopped by the ol’ gun shop down in Berea, KY earlier today and took a few quick pics of a relatively newer striker fire handgun on the market. I must say that after finally being able to handle one, color me very impressed and interested in perhaps getting one. Seems like the biggest gripe on them from online reviews is that early release models had magazines that wouldn’t drop free (this one pictured didn’t have that issue, however). That aside, my initial thoughts on it are that it has a great natural point of aim, excellent ergonomics, and a fairly decent trigger. If I get one down the road it’ll definitely be the “top tier” model with night sights, three mags, and three palm swell modules (the one installed on this one was just a bit too bulky IMHO). Anyway, onto the pics...
Gen 5 Glock 19 vs Stoeger STR-9 Compact:
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That Stoeger STR-9 Compact looks very interesting. 8) Have seen one online review of it, which was positive.
Nice collection of snubby Revolvers you have there, too! :) I'm very partial to that Colt! 8)
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Beretta APX Centurion vs Walther Creed
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S&W M&P 1.0 full size .40s&w vs Walther Creed
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Nice shots, thanks for adding them!
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LTT/Springfield XDe 3.3 vs Sig P365.
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Both in the preferred carry configuration.
P365 with 10 round finger extension mag H: 4.5" L: 5.8" W over grip sleeve: 1.25", w/o grip sleeve; 1.1"
XDe with 8 round finger extension mag H: 5.25" L: 6.5" W over safety: 1.25"
After shooting 500 rounds from each, I'm selling or trading the Sig. Both are more than good enough carry pieces. The Sig's trigger is not for me, mushy and no distinct break with a 5 pound 12 ounce trigger pull. The XDe DA pull is 7 pounds 11 ounces the SA is 4 pounds even. I get similar practical accuracy from both pistols. While the XDe is a larger pistol, it carries about the same as the P365. Recoil is sharper and muzzle flip is greater with the P365. Both favor Federal 124gr HST for defense ammo, they both shoot most 115gr and 124gr target ammo well enough.
I probably will continue to carry my Kimber K6s most of the time, I still have a preference for revolvers and the K6s has been the best one for me.
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Traded off the extra, unused Glock 26 I had for another 9mm pistol that I previously owned a few years ago and regrettably sold off. Here’s several pics of it (before a few small mods) beside my other Gen 5 G26 that I’m currently holding onto. Immediate mods will be an aggressive grip stippling, “G” conversion (decock only) with the Stealth decock levers, and an Ameriglo CAP front night sight. Eventually may look into a DAO conversion, but that’ll wait. Now, to get out and shoot it at my range, aka the backyard...
Beretta PX4 Subcompact (w/Olight PL Mini 2) and Glock 26 (w/Pearce +2 mag extension and TLR-6):
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Taurus G3 full size vs Beretta APX Centurion
They are the same size essentially but the Beretta is thicker and heavier(nearly 1/4#!). Also, notice how far under the slide the beretta grip sits as opposed to the long nose profile of the G3. It's crazy.
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SAR9 vs M&P 4.25" 1.0
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DWCopple, thanks for the shots!
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Beretta 81 and CZ83 32ACP. Two fun shooters, I would be hard pressed to pick the better. The CZ has a better DA trigger the Beretta has a better SA trigger. Both are very accurate with pretty much any good ammo. They both show a preference for Hornady Critical Defense ammo for carry loads with Speer Gold Dots a close second. PMC, American Eagle, and PPU round nose all shoot very well, the CZ does a touch better with American Eagle, the Beretta with PPU ammo.
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Ron M, awesome pics!
Decided to snap a few more of some that I already have or, added to the collection recently. I will apologize in advance that they aren’t combined, as the app I was using for photo collages wanted to charge an outrageous amount for its use, when it used to be free.
I’ll start off with my trusty old DAO P-07 Duty and new M&P9 2.0 Compact 3.6”. Yep, I forgot to take the red sticker off of the new TLR-7A I just added onto my P-07 LOL. I need to quit being lazy and add an orange outline Night Fision front sight to it, since I have orange outline Ameriglo fronts on everything else in the carry rotation!
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Next up is the aforementioned M&P and my Shadow Systems MR920:
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M&P and Gen 5 G26 with 12-rd mag, then with G19 mag and extension sleeve:
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Just saying, it sure would be nice if Glock would make a “26X” so that I could mount one of my TLR-7A’s onto it, as the Gen 5 G26 quickly became one of my favorite CC’s over the last couple of years (even over the P-10 C, P-10 S, P365, and G43X I all briefly owned over the course of the last year).
More later on, will eventually be adding several others in the future. Cheers!
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Nice Comparison! 8) :) I'm liking that new M&P9 2.0 Compact 3.6! :)
My two "Late Spring and Summer Carry" Pistols, a third Generation 9mm Taurus PT111 and a PT709.
(http://i.imgur.com/uZiiJuHl.jpg) (https://imgur.com/uZiiJuH)
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I’ll start off with my trusty old DAO P-07 Duty and new M&P9 2.0 Compact 3.6”. Yep, I forgot to take the red sticker off of the new TLR-7A I just added onto my P-07 LOL. I need to quit being lazy and add an orange outline Night Fision front sight to it, since I have orange outline Ameriglo fronts on everything else in the carry rotation!
Was it CZ Custom that did the DAO conversion for you on that P-07? I remember reading posts about them doing that some years ago.
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I’ll start off with my trusty old DAO P-07 Duty and new M&P9 2.0 Compact 3.6”. Yep, I forgot to take the red sticker off of the new TLR-7A I just added onto my P-07 LOL. I need to quit being lazy and add an orange outline Night Fision front sight to it, since I have orange outline Ameriglo fronts on everything else in the carry rotation!
Was it CZ Custom that did the DAO conversion for you on that P-07? I remember reading posts about them doing that some years ago.
Yessir, sure was! They also did the slide milling and addition of night sights on my CZ 100. If I could somehow modify the rail on that one so as to have even a single rail slot… [emoji848]
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Several quick pics, hoping to get some shooting in before going to work in a few…
Glock 26 w/12 rd mag and FN 509C Tactical:
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Glock 19 and FN 509C Tactical w/15 rd mag:
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CZ P-07 Duty and FN 509C Tactical w/15 rd mag:
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S&W M&P9 C 3.6” and FN 509C Tactical w/15 rd mag:
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Looking forward to getting my P-10S in another month or so to add to the collection (and EDC rotation)!
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Meant to put these up a while back but simply forgot. My apologies!
CZ P-10C and Glock 45:
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Glock 19.5 and CZ P-10S w/+2 HBI extension:
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Excellent Pics and very Nice Pistols! 8) Thanks for posting! :)
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Nice! Thanks for the pictures.
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You’re very welcome, but truly, thank you guys for appreciating it!
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Rekindled an old flame with my love, the newest rendition of the first striker fire pistol that really took my attention away from hammer-fire pistols, and I had to get some pics of it against my old #2 carry piece (now #3), as they fit the same category of a compact slide and barrel on a full-size grip. In this case, 17+1.....
Glock 45 and Steyr M9-A2 MF
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Undecided on whether I'm going to replace the Trap Sights with basic Trijicon night sights or Tru Glo TFX Pros.
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Very Interesting and Congratulations on the acquisition of a Steyr M9-A2! 8) :)
May it serve you well! :)
I have an older version of the longer Steyr L9-A1 and it's been a very very good handgun! :)
I have looked around for an M9 version, which would be for Carry, but they tend to be scarce around here.
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Steyr L9-A1
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Very Interesting and Congratulations on the acquisition of a Steyr M9-A2! 8) :)
May it serve you well! :)
I have an older version of the longer Steyr L9-A1 and it's been a very very good handgun! :)
I have looked around for an M9 version, which would be for Carry, but they tend to be scarce around here.
Yep, I remember you having that back when I had my C9-A1 and S9-A1! Got my hands on the L9-A2 MF a few days ago, would definitely be my choice for a full-size.
True the aftermarket is difficult for the A2 MF's, but not impossible!. Truth be told, it's not like they need much of anything other than a good holster!
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2 that might be of interest: CZ P01 vs Beretta PX4 Compact carry. They're basically the same size and weight.
Unloaded weight: CZ P01: 28.1 ounces Beretta PX4 CC: 27.4 ounces
Width: CZ P01: 1.38 inches Beretta PX4 CC: 1.4 inches.
Length: CZ P01: 7.2 inches Beretta PX4 CC: 6.8 inches
Height: CZ P01: 5 inches Beretta PX4 CC: 5 inches.
Please note in the photos I have 92 style decocker levers on the PX4 CC. When used for carry I have the flat "stealth" levers installed. The 92 style levers are easier to decock when running a bunch of 1st shot DA then 2 SA drills.
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The trigger on the Beretta is better, I've installed the LTT 11 pound hammer spring, it already had the Competition Trigger Group installed at the factory. The CZ is still stock at this time. I will be installing a CGW Defensive carry package in the near future.
Accuracy is ammo dependent. Best defense load for the CZ P01 is 124gr +P Gold Dots followed closely by 124gr +p Golden Sabers. Best defense loads in the Beretta PX4 CC 147gr HST followed by 147gr Gold Dots. Both group about the same with my 115gr and 147gr FMJ reloads.
My wife shoots the P01 slightly better, I shoot the CC slightly better. Enough to trade or sell off one or the other? Nope.
The Beretta hold 1 more round, I don't consider that a big deal at all.
Nice write up. Just purchased a PX4 compact (9mm) to pair with my PCR. My original plan was to buy a P-01 or maybe P-07. However, I wanted something with a little different and with a decent trigger out the box. I ordered new sights and a hammer spring from Beretta, and a set of Talon grips. This should give me a decent setup at reasonable cost. PCR is still stock, and I expect things will smooth out around 300 rds, but we will see.
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Nice Comparison! 8) :) I'm liking that new M&P9 2.0 Compact 3.6! :)
My two "Late Spring and Summer Carry" Pistols, a third Generation 9mm Taurus PT111 and a PT709.
(http://i.imgur.com/uZiiJuHl.jpg) (https://imgur.com/uZiiJuH)
I recently came to the realization that my PT111 G2 weighs as much as a my Glock 19 Gen 2. Appreciate that the Taurus has a safety and a smaller profile, just don't know that the juice is worth the squeeze except as a cheap beater gun or stash gun versus other options...
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Lots of good pictures. One might try HandGunHero.com and you can compare almost all guns. I'm on there at least 2 time a week.
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Thank you. There used to be a lot more, but for some reason through the years a lot of the pictures I originally posted are no longer visible.
Yes, handgun hero is a nice resource. Seems like somebody finally made a web program to do something like what I was doing in this post since 2014 lol.
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Thank you. There used to be a lot more, but for some reason through the years a lot of the pictures I originally posted are no longer visible.
Yes, handgun hero is a nice resource. Seems like somebody finally made a web program to do something like what I was doing in this post since 2014 lol.
Your pics help me decide to purchase the PX4 storm and the PCR! Thank you!!
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Terry, glad I could help! Funny you mention that because I have another PX4 Compact "G" on the horizon. [emoji48]
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Terry, glad I could help! Funny you mention that because I have another PX4 Compact "G" on the horizon. [emoji48]
PX4 compacts remained under the radar for years. I ignored them because I was a Glock fanboy. Not seeing many 9mm compacts on the market, lately. It seems the secret is out about them.
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Glock 26 (Gen 5 w/TLR7A on a Recover Tactical Rail Mount Adapter) and Shadow Systems CR920 w/TRL7 Sub.
Both with flush fit 10-rd mags:
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G26 w/Magpul 12-rd mag , SS CR920 w/13-rd mag:
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G26 w/OEM 12-rd mag , SS CR920 w/13-rd mag:
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G26 w/G19 mag and extension sleeve, SS CR920 w/13-rd mag:
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