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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ75, 75b, 75 SAO inc the Transitional => Topic started by: SlvrDragon50 on February 05, 2016, 06:11:59 PM
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I'm thinking about picking up a CZ75 (maybe 85 if I can find a cheap one) online, but I'm not really sure what to look out for as a first time gun buyer.
All I really can see is that tthey're pretty worn on the surface, but I imagine that's not necessarily reflective of the firing condition. They're also around 325-350 so it's not too much cheaper than a new CZ75 if I have to replace parts.
So tldr:
What should I look out for when buying a CZ75 used?
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Unless you don't mind a beater finish or can refinish it yourself buy a newer gun. Used 75Bs' can be found for $450 in my area if you are patient. A new Canik for about 300 - 350. Plus you don't have to worry about mags fitting.
Buying anything online can be a gamble. Not sure how to tell you what look at if you are buying online. If you have it in hand there are a number of things you can check. Reminds me of the forest Gump line,"life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get". I don't like surprises as a rule and rarely buy anything that someone has "worked" on or has not take well care of.
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I would not recommend buying online as a 'first time gun buyer'. It can be very hit and miss. Any 'savings' can quickly vanish in FFL fees, shipping costs, and (god forbid) repairs. Far better to buy from a brick and mortar dealer until you are confident in your abilities to sort the wheat from the chaff.
In this case, the price you quote is not much less than a good quality used 75b, and not far distant from a NIB pistol from CZ.
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I typically buy an old beat up CZ "something" about once a month. Most of them have muzzle damage, about 8 out of 10 of the Military/Police turn-ins from over seas will have a badly damaged muzzle. Some of the worst looking guns on the outside have hardly been fired so the insides look close to new. They all need some work and a part or 2 replaced and some need everything replaced. Unless you have a good parts supply or plan on replacing all the stock parts with CGW's or CZ Custom parts don't spend more than $250.00 and make sure you get at least a 3 day examination warranty before buying. If you are not familiar with or not handy at working on CZ's do yourself a favor and don't buy a trade-in. You can make a really nice gun out of a dog but it takes a lot of elbow grease.
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I would not recommend buying online as a 'first time gun buyer'. It can be very hit and miss. Any 'savings' can quickly vanish in FFL fees, shipping costs, and (god forbid) repairs. Far better to buy from a brick and mortar dealer until you are confident in your abilities to sort the wheat from the chaff.
In this case, the price you quote is not much less than a good quality used 75b, and not far distant from a NIB pistol from CZ.
yupper.
Many people dont have the $$$ to buy it right the first time, but have the $$ to do it over many times.
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Hmm, okay.
All the $300 CZs I see from gunbroker are like for the 90s and were trade ins I believe.
I guess the only problem with brick and mortar is that I only have a like a couple hours to look around (going home during a trip and leaving pretty quickly + 3 day hold in FL), and I don't know if they'll have CZs in store. I was really hoping to pick one up online and then just drop by to sign the paper work + pick up.
I was looking at old posts and saw used CZs going for like 350. Have the used prices just gone up over time?
Are the Caniks comparable to the CZ? Seems like they are quite decent and actually have good aftermarket support as well. I'm only wanting a range gun so an issue isn't going to be a huge problem for me. Also, where in the world can I even find Caniks? I can't find them online other than Gander Mountain which is way too expensive.
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Welcome to the forum.
I think the Caniks are nice. The couple I've seen in person were very good fit and finish.
On a lot of the online retailers you'll find them listed under Tristar (The importer of the Caniks)
I know Buds Gunshop has a few.
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Hmm, okay.
All the $300 CZs I see from gunbroker are like for the 90s and were trade ins I believe.
I guess the only problem with brick and mortar is that I only have a like a couple hours to look around (going home during a trip and leaving pretty quickly + 3 day hold in FL), and I don't know if they'll have CZs in store. I was really hoping to pick one up online and then just drop by to sign the paper work + pick up.
I was looking at old posts and saw used CZs going for like 350. Have the used prices just gone up over time?
Are the Caniks comparable to the CZ? Seems like they are quite decent and actually have good aftermarket support as well. I'm only wanting a range gun so an issue isn't going to be a huge problem for me. Also, where in the world can I even find Caniks? I can't find them online other than Gander Mountain which is way too expensive.
In the end, you will have to go into town to do the paperwork - used or new.
If you dont know if they have a CZ or Canik, call or if they have email, try that. Once you find out, then go from there. While youre on the line or emailing them, ask what they will charge you for a CZ or Canik to bring in.
again, i would buy new. once you get some range and gun time, then hopefully you will have a better idea on whats what.
one thing. if you buy USED, its your headache.
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Welcome to the forum.
I think the Caniks are nice. The couple I've seen in person were very good fit and finish.
On a lot of the online retailers you'll find them listed under Tristar (The importer of the Caniks)
I know Buds Gunshop has a few.
Ahh okay. Tristar is showing up now. 384 is an awful lot though, very close to CZ price range.
Unfortunately I can't even rent a CZ here to try out, but everyone talks so highly of them I figure I can't go wrong.
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Here is a 85 NIB for $550 + $10 shipping. You could easily spend the extra $200 on parts and refinishing even if you do the work yourself.
http://tooeleshootingsupply.com/shop/cz-85-combat-9mm-pistol-4-7-bbl-sada-black-finish-101-cz-01210/
I have 2 Caniks, L-120 and an S-120, and they are great deal.
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Here is a 85 NIB for $550 + $10 shipping. You could easily spend the extra $200 on parts and refinishing even if you do the work yourself.
http://tooeleshootingsupply.com/shop/cz-85-combat-9mm-pistol-4-7-bbl-sada-black-finish-101-cz-01210/
I have 2 Caniks, L-120 and an S-120, and they are great deal.
Hmm, yup. That is exactly what I was afraid of. While I realize a gun with a worn finish doesn't really affect its performance, I'd like to have it last since it's a big investment. The L120 is quite a bit cheaper than the S120, is there that much a difference in terms of recoil in the steel? Of course I still have to find a Canik for ~300-350 otherwise I'd just cough up the extra to get the CZ.
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Grab a phone book or do an Internet search for gun stores and call. Ask them if they have CZ's and how much or can they get any trade-ins. Bud'sGunShop.com has loads of CZ's from the .380's all the way up to the 97b. Just got a 75b SA from there. Paid the layaway off , the gun was at the FFL in 2 days. They have 85 combats in stock.
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I look at LOTS of stuff used on Gunbroker daily, including CZ, then check Kentucky Gun Company, and can often get new in the box for 2% over used with warranty, free shipping, $25 local FFL, not tax (out of state).
Armslist may also be useful if you are in a big enough state (don't try to buy a pistol from someone in another state without an FFL dealer involved at BOTH ends of the transaction, because under Federal Law, pistols are EVIL; rifles and shotguns not so much).
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(don't try to buy a pistol from someone in another state without an FFL dealer involved at BOTH ends of the transaction,
You don't have to use an FFL to ship a handgun. You can ship it yourself, it just has to be shipped to an FFL. (Of course some states may have stricter laws)
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(don't try to buy a pistol from someone in another state without an FFL dealer involved at BOTH ends of the transaction,
You don't have to use an FFL to ship a handgun. You can ship it yourself, it just has to be shipped to an FFL. (Of course some states may have stricter laws)
Some FFLs don't accept incoming shipments from non-FFL holders, but that is a question of the dealer's policy and not of law.
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Yea I haven't seen very many cheap used CZs. The last one I saw was $500 but it included Vz grips at least.
I'm honestly so confused right now and not sure what the best choice is since I can't shoot the guns. I'm looking quite heavily at the SAR K2P for 315 after fees since people seem to love it, but I really didn't love the FN FNX9 when I shot a polymer gun. I felt I couldn't really control it very well, but I've only gone shooting three times and with different guns every time.
If I spend another 100 I can get a steel framed Tri Star S-120, which has a little bit of upgrade capability too. But then I think, if I spend another 150 I can just get a CZ85 Combat haha but then that's 250 more than the K2P.
I don't mind spending more since I doubt I'll purchase another gun for the next few years, but I'm also on a graduate student stipend.
My plan is to shoot another polymer gun this week, maybe striker fired just to see what a Glock is like.
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Some FFLs don't accept incoming shipments from non-FFL holders, but that is a question of the dealer's policy and not of law.
Good point Eastman. Thanks for mentioning that.
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SlvrDragon50, personally I think if it were me, I'd get the S-120.
Your already sounding hesitant on the poly framed K2P. The S-120 will give you the steel frame, and save you a little cash. That will also free up some funds for buying ammo.
To be honest, the main reason I don't own a Canik at this time, is because I prefer Decockers.
There's nothing saying that you can't sell the Canik later and get a CZ. If you decide that you don't like the CZ platform you're not out as much money.
Cheaper used CZ's are out there, you just have to be lucky. I picked up a LNIB 75B last year (I think) at a gunshow for $350. Sold it this fall to fund my SP01 Tactical.
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It is a lot of money going up to a CZ, but it will still be a lot of money going up to a CZ after you tire of your Caniks and find yourself still wanting a CZ. You will be better off waiting and getting what you want. That's a pretty smoking deal on that 85 Combat up there.
What do you want the gun for? If it's just a range toy, about any CZ will do. For competition, then the 85C and SP01 will start to sing their siren song. I like my 75B as much as my SP01 shadow custom. And my compact I take for granted until I shoot it again then the love affair is rekindled.
Some dude getting romantic with his guns on the net won't tell you much, there are dudes who feel that way about every brand. I have the guns I want to have and that is awesome. For many folks who take the hobby seriously there is an emotional side to it as much as the utilitarian side. Bummer you cannot hold it first to see how you emotionally respond to it. Ultimately getting something you are emotionally and intellectually happy with is worth a couple months of scrimping and saving.
That said, being happy with your handgun purchase will not at all come close to making you happy at large.
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There are some advantages to living in a CZ barren land. If CZs aren't popular where you live you may find a new or good used one for a good price. Last year I found a near new CZ 75B at a gun show for $400. I put a Want To Buy add on Armslist for a CZ P-09 and in 3 days I had a near new one for $400. I think there are some great deals out there if a guy can be patient. Good luck!
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Well, the only problem is that I go to school in Illinois, and I can only buy back in Florida.
And my next trip back to Florida leaves very little time to go shopping because of the 3 day hold, and I'll be gone for half of it :( So I'm really hoping to just have the gun already at the FFL so I can start the paperwork as soon as I get back and pick it up when I return from my mini vacation.
I think I might be able to stretch my funds, but I won't know for sure until next week. Really hoping the CZ-85 Combat is still in stock next week since the price difference is so small between the 75B and 85C.
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I think the 85 Combat would be a great choice. Hold out for what you really want and you won't be disappointed.
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Yea, I think you guys are convincing me to just drop the extra bit and get the 85 Combat. Even if it means I get to shoot a little bit less at first.
On the bright side, the CZ for 555 from toole only has 10 rd mags so I'm not so worried about missing out on the deal since I see that I can get the gun for 579 w/ 2 16 rd mags at Buds or Toole.
So I guess the next question I have is... I want to shoot something that will be kinda similar to a CZ at my range. This is my range's armory: http://www.highcalibertrainingcenter.com/range-info/rentals/
I've shot the Beretta 92 and liked it even though I kept shooting down and to the left (my error, my friend shot just fine). I'm thinking of getting the Springfield 1911 next time I go out since it'll also be a metal framed gun?
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If you are somewhere in Broward or Palm Beach I have a 75b that you can try and see if you like it.
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I have looking around in central Fl. Every dealer on the CZ web has had them in stock here anyway. Not sure of the pricing. as I have thinking about the P 07. I am new to pistol life and went thru the same thoughts you are going thru now. Buy new or buy used save money. Aggravation is not worth a single dollar, buy new.
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I've shot the Beretta 92 and liked it even though I kept shooting down and to the left (my error, my friend shot just fine). I'm thinking of getting the Springfield 1911 next time I go out since it'll also be a metal framed gun?
If you like the Beretta, you'll really like the CZ. The grip is narrower and more comfortable IMO.
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IMHO, save up and buy new. I can't imagine a better pistol to learn the basics with than the CZ 75B or one of its variants. Unless you are familiar with pistols already, get a model with a safety. In later years, you'll probably go to a decocker or just leave the safety in the off position all the time, but for a newbie the safety is a must.
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I've shot the Beretta 92 and liked it even though I kept shooting down and to the left (my error, my friend shot just fine). I'm thinking of getting the Springfield 1911 next time I go out since it'll also be a metal framed gun?
If you like the Beretta, you'll really like the CZ. The grip is narrower and more comfortable IMO.
Glad to hear that since I have smaller hands, and the Beretta felt a bit big in my hands. Maybe I'll just shoot the Beretta again.
And yup, planning on getting a gun with a safety since it'll be a range only gun!
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"7. May I lawfully ship a firearm directly to an out-of-State licensee, or must I have a licensee in my State ship it to him? May the licensee return the firearm to me, even if the shipment is across State lines?
Any person may ship firearms directly to a licensee in any State, with no requirement for another licensee to ship the firearm. However, handguns are not mailable through the United States Postal Service and must be shipped via common or contract carrier.(18 U.S.C. ?? 1715). Firearms shipped to FFLs for repair or any other lawful purpose may be returned to the person from whom received without transferring the firearm through an FFL in the recipient?s State of residence. FFLs may also return a replacement firearm of the same kind and type to the person from whom received. 18 U.S.C. ? 922(a)(2)(A)."
From ATF FAQ's. I wonder if the common carrier requirement for handguns might make it easier to have your FFL handle it, rather than privately shipping via common carrier to buyer's FFL? Packaging, contracts, etc?
I was laboring under the misinformation that only long guns could go Private seller ---> FFL of buyer.
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If you are somewhere in Broward or Palm Beach I have a 75b that you can try and see if you like it.
That's extremely generous of you and shows the class that's present on this forum. One gun not mentioned was an Omega that can be found nib for around $475. That's a great price on the 85 Combat. I bought one for $585 New Years eve and thought I got a really good price on it. Most Combats are over $600. Also check the Classifieds on this forum. The people selling them on here love CZ's and they sell a lot of nice well cared for guns on here.
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I found a range in Orlando that is pretty cheap to rent so I will probably just rent from there (but I'm probably going to have my gun ready for pick up at that ime anyways :P)
Thank you though!
I think I'm gonna be able to save some money on hotels on one of my business trips, so I can shift some funds to my CZ fund!
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Go to Davidson's Gallery of Guns (http://www.galleryofguns.com/). They have a number of CZ 75s in several configurations. Plug in your ZIP Code and enter how far you're willing to drive. They'll respond (instantly) with a list of FFL dealers within your area where you can pick up the gun and what the price will be. Plus, you'll get a lifetime warranty. Hard to beat a deal like this.
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Yea I've checked them out. Unfortunately they don't have very much. Only a 75b SA, and the same price as an 85 Combat from elsewhere. I figure I don't really need to worry about warranty too much with a CZ since they're pretty reliable?
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Be careful of the Davidson -75SA.
I had my LGS go after one for me in January, but the Davidson's picture didn't look right online (curved trigger).
Davidson rep went and pulled one of the 10 and confirmed that it had a curved trigger.
If I'd only realized it at the time, I might have bought it, a -75SA with a curved trigger(!) but we couldn't get the guy back on the phone to confirm that it WASN'T a -75B/BD/Omega that had been loaded into the system incorrectly.
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Just got my paycheck 3 days early for some reason, and I think I'm definitely gonna be able to buy a gun now!
I just need to do some more research on my Illinois gun laws to make sure I don't get into legal issues out of ignorance!
So what all do I need to get as a first time gun owner?
Is something simple like this gonna work for cleaning?
http://www.amazon.com/Hoppes-Cleaning-Aluminum-Caliber-Pistol/dp/B001A4N47G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1455347934&sr=8-1&keywords=handgun+cleaning+kit
Will this work for as a "safe" or is the foam still going to induce moisture and rust? I am probably gonna get one as a flight case, but I don't know if I need to buy another safe or not.
http://www.amazon.com/SnapSafe-XL-Lockbox-Security-Valuables/dp/B00TONRU9S/ref=pd_sim_200_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=31QPlQlv4NL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1F072E41NT0G5ARDYFR9
Or maybe I'm better off getting this?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A75EVJO/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=
I am not really concerned about theft or quick access as I am getting the gun as a purely range gun, not home defense, and I live in a pretty safe area. And I have other things that are far more valuable. That said, I do not mind investing more money. I don't like buying more than once.
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Can't help you with the safe but that cleaning kit will be fine for you.
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If the goal is to prevent access and not so much give you easy access, then a nanovault NV300 (combo lock) or a NV200 (keyed lock) would likely get the job done for you as well. The one you have listed is a top flight safe from a security perspective. I am no safe connoisseur by any means, so that is a "better" safe but I wonder if that matters given intended use. I have an NV200 lashed to the strut of my trunk deck in my car and it's how I move around my match gun during the week. Can fit one full size pistol with a mag seated and a spare magazine or two
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I found a range in Orlando that is pretty cheap to rent so I will probably just rent from there (but I'm probably going to have my gun ready for pick up at that ime anyways :P)
Thank you though!
I think I'm gonna be able to save some money on hotels on one of my business trips, so I can shift some funds to my CZ fund!
Just out of curiosity, which range is this?
Anyway, if you're looking for a decent deal on a CZ in the Orlando area, check out Shoot Straight. I bought my 75BD from the one in Cassleberry for 592 OTD.
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I like the Nanovault too, but I was worried about it potentially causing rust when I'm storing between shooting? I don't think I can fit the gun w/ a sock in the vault.
This is the shooting range I found in Orlando that looks pretty cheap! http://www.eastorangess.com/
I checked out Shoot Straight, and I can't find an inventory online or that they even carry CZs so I'd rather buy online just to be safe.
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I like the Nanovault too, but I was worried about it potentially causing rust when I'm storing between shooting? I don't think I can fit the gun w/ a sock in the vault.
This is the shooting range I found in Orlando that looks pretty cheap! http://www.eastorangess.com/
I checked out Shoot Straight, and I can't find an inventory online or that they even carry CZs so I'd rather buy online just to be safe.
Yeah, I'm familiar with East Orange, I actually learned how to shoot there back when they were just a pistol range. I was wondering if there was a new place I didn't know about.
Well, I picked up mine yesterday and they had a stainless CZ75 in one of the display cases when I was there, but you could probably just give them a call to confirm whether or not it's still in stock.
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Ahh, I actually don't really like the look of stainless steel guns. Pretty nice since they cost so much more :P
I am leaning towards getting a CZ85 Combat from Bud's.
Thanks for the heads up though! I'm planning on going to East Orange next time I go back home, it looks pretty good!
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I like the Nanovault too, but I was worried about it potentially causing rust when I'm storing between shooting? I don't think I can fit the gun w/ a sock in the vault.
This is the shooting range I found in Orlando that looks pretty cheap! http://www.eastorangess.com/
I checked out Shoot Straight, and I can't find an inventory online or that they even carry CZs so I'd rather buy online just to be safe.
I don't give my match gun a lot of encouraging unless a major match is approaching. No issues with rust. Throw some desiccant packs in there if you are concerned.
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You could use something like this inside of the lock box - http://www.borestores.com/order_online.php?cam=product_details&prod_id=5076
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Okay, thanks guys!
I think I am going to go with a Pelican just to be sure I will have enough space for the sock. Gonna get some desiccant packs as well. I plan on shooting like every 2 weeks though anyways so it'll be pulled out frequently enough!
Now I just gotta work out the FFL details!
Also, back to the cleaning kit. Should I just stick to the Hoppe's #9 or is it worth investing in an Otis Professional Pistol Kit?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000LIKL5K?colid=25RFLXZQ5USAU&coliid=INE3DOJS1E33M&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl
I know kits typically aren't as good as a hand selected kit, but I just don't know enough at this point to hand select everything, and the Otis seems quite highly regarded.
And another question, does the CZ come with a cable lock? I'm unsure whether I should buy one or not.
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FWIW, your CZ will come with a cleaning kit. It has a bore brush and a patch rod. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160214/b1c42e9891738eb7d562f894666aa131.jpg)
Honestly, I use my bore snake more than anything. That and some larger patches to use as cleaning rags.
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Just placed an order for a CZ85 Combat from Buds! I couldn't decide between the SP-01 or the CZ-85 Combat since the SP-01 is so cheap from Kygunco so I just let the price decide the purchase.
Also found out my neighbor is apparently an FFL so I'll have to give him a call and see if he's willing to do the transfer for me.
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Just placed an order for a CZ85 Combat from Buds! I couldn't decide between the SP-01 or the CZ-85 Combat since the SP-01 is so cheap from Kygunco so I just let the price decide the purchase.
Also found out my neighbor is apparently an FFL so I'll have to give him a call and see if he's willing to do the transfer for me.
Nice! You can get the SP01 next ;)
I have a 75 and an SP01, and like both for different reasons, but I shoot the sp01 a little better, but I do practice with it more
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Yea. I kept reading how all the top shooters are using SP01s, but I really like the no rail look. Plus, I wouldn't really have to do much trigger work to get a good trigger since no firing pin block!
I can't wait. I just set up the FFL transfer so hopefully that is all set by the end of the week. Then just a long 4 weeks before I can go home and shoot it!
I've bought a lock box, cable lock, bore snake, FrogLube, Otis Pistol Cleaning Kit. Anything else I should get?
I'm probably gonna order another SentrySafe so I can store the gun without being suffocated by foam.
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Yea. I kept reading how all the top shooters are using SP01s, but I really like the no rail look. Plus, I wouldn't really have to do much trigger work to get a good trigger since no firing pin block!
I can't wait. I just set up the FFL transfer so hopefully that is all set by the end of the week. Then just a long 4 weeks before I can go home and shoot it!
I've bought a lock box, cable lock, bore snake, FrogLube, Otis Pistol Cleaning Kit. Anything else I should get?
I'm probably gonna order another SentrySafe so I can store the gun without being suffocated by foam.
A holster wouldn't be a bad thing to have, I am well pleased with the BladeTech OWB line with TekLok.
If you want to go hog wild you could buy the extended firing pin, rami 2075 firing pin spring, and a 13# mainspring. And a Stainless Steel magazine break from CZC. Since it's a range gun maybe the Cajun OEM correct fiber optic front sight. Those are really nice. The hammer and disco will make the trigger top shelf with some judicious polishing, but the springs will get you a good bit of the way there. If you do buy some internals buy a roll pin punch set and a mallet with a non marring tip (harbor freight sells one with 1 steel head and 3 varying density rubber heads you can screw on)
My personal favorite oil is now officially motor oil. I found an old can of 3 in 1 3w20 in my toolbox my father gave me and gave it a shot. It stays put longer/better than the other stuff I was using in the rails at least (Zero Friction and Slip2000 EWL).
You could visit Mr Greg Cote and pick up some of the 17 round anti friction magazines. Get the MecGar ones, they are a little nicer than the OEM magazines. The 17 rounders have a nice base pad that you won't have to change unless you want to and are only 3$ more per mag. I like to have at least 3 magazines for each gun personally. You might buy some of the plastic beretta base pads from him there or the CZ P01 rubber ones. The sheet metal base pads the gun comes with will dent and bend the first time they are dropped on concrete, probably not a concern for a stall shooter but a big concern should you ever shoot a match. I don't know the laws but you might be able to get some 10 rounders and be set for Illinois.
After a holster all you "need" is ammo and range time. Once you get it out and figure out which end sends lead down range and get good at not pointing that at yourself or others, maybe check out a USPSA or IDPA match. The sport itself is really fun but the group of folks who shoot it are really solid. Show up several weeks/months in a row and you can't help but make friends.
Finally the "5th law of gun safety for living with other people". Never ever place a loaded gun on a horizontal surface with ammo in the mag or chamber. The gun won't go off and is perfectly safe but people are not. This is especially important for when you start having kids and all of a sudden they are into everything.
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Thanks! No need for a holster since I am not going to carry (nor can I).
I was thinking about getting the upgrade parts for the CZ, but I figure I'm better off stick stock for now so I really appreciate the upgrades :P Plus, I'm a novice shooter (only gone like 3 times)! I'm definitely considering getting a FO front sight though, just not sure which brand. Also planning on picking up new grips, but again, not sure if I wanna shell out for VZ or aluminum grips or stick with OEM rubbers.
I was thinking about polishing the internals though since it shouldn't be very difficult with a dremel. Do I still need to get the pin punch set to do polishing? Or is that only for replacement of parts.
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You will need pin punches to take down the gun
You can wear a holster on the range, which is what an OWB is for, not necessarily just for ccw
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I actually don't think my range allows that. If you have any firearms that aren't in your hands, then they need to be flat on the bench. Not a big deal since I'm gonna always be in my lane anyways!
Thanks for the heads up on the pins then. Guess I might have to put in an order to CJW or CZC :-\ So scared I'm gonna overspend haha.
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FWIW, I'd wait on ordering parts. Shoot your new pistol and get to know it.
Then you'll be able to fully decide on what if anything you want different. Then call the guys at CGW or CZC. Let them know what you want to change, they may save you from buying stuff you don't need.
Just my $.02[emoji6]
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Just get the 13$ roll pin punch set from Home Depot and
http://m.harborfreight.com/1-12-lb-soft-face-mallet-69048.html
Provided you have a nice set of screw drivers and a jewelers screw driver, you can take the gun down. Keep the trigger return spring lubed when you lubricate.
I think if you are going to have a gun, you should shoot IDPA or USPSA, which necessitates the holster. Square ranging is fun while you learn fundamentals, then getting off the square range teaches competency. Marrying marksmanship with a dynamic situation and handling a gun under stress.
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Unfortunately the closest location for USPSA or IDPA is over 60 miles away :(
I definitely wanna try USPSA and IDPA at some point though!
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Unfortunately the closest location for USPSA or IDPA is over 60 miles away :(
I definitely wanna try USPSA and IDPA at some point though!
For 7-8 stages once a month? Totally worth it!
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