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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => Compact CZ 75s => Topic started by: Scarlett Pistol on October 15, 2016, 10:46:09 PM
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So this is covered in another thread but the name may not catch enough people to let them know. There is a batch of 500 pistols that are essentially SP-01 Compacts. See the thread and links below. CZ did verify when I called. Get one while you can if you've wanted a pistol like this! Ps the pics are screenshots of a gunbroker posting so you all can see something besides a stock photo. The other thread still has more info than this post at this first moment.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=83170.15
Cheapest I found it when I was looking...
http://www.mrgundealer.com/product.cz-usa-75-compact-9mm-rail-steel-frame-manual-safe-39
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good looking pistol
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Someone took my idea and created an ambi controlled.... Error SP-01 with compact sized features. Hmm That didn't take long at all. Rofl. Kidding. I want one. Help my addiction.
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Haha that's only help I can offer is to recommend you get one so you don't regret missing out on this rare batch...
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I bet they won't last long once people understand that supposedly only 500 of these were made.
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I'm betting you're right rhart. Anacortes show how many are in the warehouse. Don't know how accurate it really is buy supposedly they're down to 448. CZ did say they all went to one distributor, Bill something, so that makes sense that most would be in one warehouse.
https://www.anacortesgunshop.com/cz-75-compact-9mm-rail-steel-frame-manual-safe-148051
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good looking pistol
Stuart you should bring some into CZ Custom and work your magic I bet you sell them like hot cakes [emoji1303]
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good looking pistol
Stuart you should bring some into CZ Custom and work your magic I bet you sell them like hot cakes [emoji1303]
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That's a good suggestion!
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I'm betting you're right rhart. Anacortes show how many are in the warehouse. Don't know how accurate it really is buy supposedly they're down to 448. CZ did say they all went to one distributor, Bill something, so that makes sense that most would be in one warehouse.
https://www.anacortesgunshop.com/cz-75-compact-9mm-rail-steel-frame-manual-safe-148051
Bill 'something' would this be, and correct me if I'm getting on a high horse here, Bill Wilson of Wilson Combat??!?! If Bill Wilson asked CZ to run a batch of custom guns for his requirements to have his custom shop modify and put out into the market.... It's like what he did with Beretta with the 92s and the brigadier slides.... Hmm. My gears are turning now. A teaser batch of specifically modified CZ compacts that Bill Wilson was going to work on, and then failed somewhere along the 'let's make a deal' phase... So now they're just getting released into the marketplace. Could you imagine what Wilson Combat would do to the frames and slides?!?! My brain is in overdrive right now. A Wilson Combat CZ 75 Compact Shadow. I could be wrong. But I wish I lived to see such a thing. Wonder how they'd hang with a CGW mod gun.
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Not Bill Wilson. The client who ordered these did not take delivery and so Cz-usa took them. Then they all went to one distributor. Sorry if my explanation wasn't clear....
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In 2013, I bought a CZ Compact from CZC that looks almost like this model, except the rollmark says "CZ75B Compact L"
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So OP, did you buy one? If so, we would like a full report once it arrives.
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Sure did! Selling a Ruger SR-9c to fund part of it, covering the rest w some reloading funds. Did it because I've seen stories about those Compact L's and always wished I was into CZ's then and had gotten one. I am not like Joe L or SP01Shadow, but I will do my best to do a good review.
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I just bought one this morning. I'm very excited for it! I've been looking for a Shadow Line Compact for quite awhile, and have only seen one for sale for $1500 on GB awhile back since they went out of stock with CZC. This will do the trick nicely and should be functionally identical once I put CGW parts inside it.
As a lefty, i've always been disappointed that CZ has offered rather limited options for ambi safeties in their compact models. I've owned a P-02 before, but I hate the Omega trigger system. Honestly, I prefer the frame and slide of the standard compact model, but i've never been able to justify the hundreds of dollars it would cost to have the frame machined and fitted for an ambi safety.
Seeing that I just finalized ordering an Accu-Compact build with CZC, I probably shouldn't have bought this as well, but I know this would be one i'd be kicking myself over had I waited, as limited-run CZs are very difficult to find and costly on the secondary market.
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Congratulations! The waiting period is terrible for me, everytime!
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I just bought one this morning. I'm very excited for it! I've been looking for a Shadow Line Compact for quite awhile, and have only seen one for sale for $1500 on GB awhile back since they went out of stock with CZC. This will do the trick nicely and should be functionally identical once I put CGW parts inside it.
As a lefty, i've always been disappointed that CZ has offered rather limited options for ambi safeties in their compact models. I've owned a P-02 before, but I hate the Omega trigger system. Honestly, I prefer the frame and slide of the standard compact model, but i've never been able to justify the hundreds of dollars it would cost to have the frame machined and fitted for an ambi safety.
Seeing that I just finalized ordering an Accu-Compact build with CZC, I probably shouldn't have bought this as well, but I know this would be one i'd be kicking myself over had I waited, as limited-run CZs are very difficult to find and costly on the secondary market.
I'm a lefty too and have one of these coming in. I'm also not a great fan of the omega system and never really liked my P 07, which I gave to my son. (He also has a nice tuned 75 shadow). But, I do shoot my P 01 omega very well.
Tell me about the accu compact you are having built? Which model is it based on?
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I just bought one this morning. I'm very excited for it! I've been looking for a Shadow Line Compact for quite awhile, and have only seen one for sale for $1500 on GB awhile back since they went out of stock with CZC. This will do the trick nicely and should be functionally identical once I put CGW parts inside it.
As a lefty, i've always been disappointed that CZ has offered rather limited options for ambi safeties in their compact models. I've owned a P-02 before, but I hate the Omega trigger system. Honestly, I prefer the frame and slide of the standard compact model, but i've never been able to justify the hundreds of dollars it would cost to have the frame machined and fitted for an ambi safety.
Seeing that I just finalized ordering an Accu-Compact build with CZC, I probably shouldn't have bought this as well, but I know this would be one i'd be kicking myself over had I waited, as limited-run CZs are very difficult to find and costly on the secondary market.
I'm a lefty too and have one of these coming in. I'm also not a great fan of the omega system and never really liked my P 07, which I gave to my son. (He also has a nice tuned 75 shadow). But, I do shoot my P 01 omega very well.
Tell me about the accu compact you are having built? Which model is it based on?
It's the exact same gun as this: http://czcustom.com/new-firearms/cz-pistols-custom/cz-75-semi-compact-9mm-custom.html?___SID=U
I just missed the boat the first time around when they made a batch of these last year, so i'm having them make one for me as a custom build.
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Anyone having issues trying to order? Order doesn't seem to be going through after trying.
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I just bought one this morning. I'm very excited for it! I've been looking for a Shadow Line Compact for quite awhile, and have only seen one for sale for $1500 on GB awhile back since they went out of stock with CZC. This will do the trick nicely and should be functionally identical once I put CGW parts inside it.
As a lefty, i've always been disappointed that CZ has offered rather limited options for ambi safeties in their compact models. I've owned a P-02 before, but I hate the Omega trigger system. Honestly, I prefer the frame and slide of the standard compact model, but i've never been able to justify the hundreds of dollars it would cost to have the frame machined and fitted for an ambi safety.
Seeing that I just finalized ordering an Accu-Compact build with CZC, I probably shouldn't have bought this as well, but I know this would be one i'd be kicking myself over had I waited, as limited-run CZs are very difficult to find and costly on the secondary market.
I'm a lefty too and have one of these coming in. I'm also not a great fan of the omega system and never really liked my P 07, which I gave to my son. (He also has a nice tuned 75 shadow). But, I do shoot my P 01 omega very well.
Tell me about the accu compact you are having built? Which model is it based on?
It's the exact same gun as this: http://czcustom.com/new-firearms/cz-pistols-custom/cz-75-semi-compact-9mm-custom.html?___SID=U
I just missed the boat the first time around when they made a batch of these last year, so i'm having them make one for me as a custom build.
that looks real nice! Is it built on a stainless frame that is refinished? I can't think of another hi rise full size fpb frame that comes with ambi safeties, except maybe a .40 frame.
I have thought of mixing my incoming SP 01 compact top end on to my buffed and modded SP 01 frame, and vice versa for kicks.
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It's built on a Shadow frame, with tuned FPB parts added back in.
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Anyone having issues trying to order? Order doesn't seem to be going through after trying.
Just got my notice of shipment from AZGUNS. Hoping to have it by Thursday or Friday.
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It's built on a Shadow frame, with tuned FPB parts added back in.
Really, interesting!
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I just bought one this morning. I'm very excited for it! I've been looking for a Shadow Line Compact for quite awhile, and have only seen one for sale for $1500 on GB awhile back since they went out of stock with CZC. This will do the trick nicely and should be functionally identical once I put CGW parts inside it.
As a lefty, i've always been disappointed that CZ has offered rather limited options for ambi safeties in their compact models. I've owned a P-02 before, but I hate the Omega trigger system. Honestly, I prefer the frame and slide of the standard compact model, but i've never been able to justify the hundreds of dollars it would cost to have the frame machined and fitted for an ambi safety.
Seeing that I just finalized ordering an Accu-Compact build with CZC, I probably shouldn't have bought this as well, but I know this would be one i'd be kicking myself over had I waited, as limited-run CZs are very difficult to find and costly on the secondary market.
I'm a lefty too and have one of these coming in. I'm also not a great fan of the omega system and never really liked my P 07, which I gave to my son. (He also has a nice tuned 75 shadow). But, I do shoot my P 01 omega very well.
Tell me about the accu compact you are having built? Which model is it based on?
It's the exact same gun as this: http://czcustom.com/new-firearms/cz-pistols-custom/cz-75-semi-compact-9mm-custom.html?___SID=U
I just missed the boat the first time around when they made a batch of these last year, so i'm having them make one for me as a custom build.
Are you absolutely sure it's the same? It looks like the linked compact has the wide safety and also a fitted bushing. I'm curious if these are similar to the l compacts limited release from before.
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It figures. I just got a CZ 75 compact a couple of weeks ago. I couldn't find one of these so I talked myself into the compact. Now I'm trying to talk myself out of ordering this pistol. That being said what is this ? It's all steel has a safety and a rail. The only difference I can see is the 10 round mag and that can be changed. https://www.kygunco.com/Product/View?ItemNo=41526
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It figures. I just got a CZ 75 compact a couple of weeks ago. I couldn't find one of these so I talked myself into the compact. Now I'm trying to talk myself out of ordering this pistol. That being said what is this ? It's all steel has a safety and a rail. The only difference I can see is the 10 round mag and that can be changed. https://www.kygunco.com/Product/View?ItemNo=41526
The photo can be deceiving since they put a disclaimer about that. The one at Kygunco. probably does not have the rail - even if the picture shows one. Google the CZ number to see what it really looks like.
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It figures. I just got a CZ 75 compact a couple of weeks ago. I couldn't find one of these so I talked myself into the compact. Now I'm trying to talk myself out of ordering this pistol. That being said what is this ? It's all steel has a safety and a rail. The only difference I can see is the 10 round mag and that can be changed. https://www.kygunco.com/Product/View?ItemNo=41526
The photo can be deceiving since they put a disclaimer about that. The one at Kygunco. probably does not have the rail - even if the picture shows one. Google the CZ number to see what it really looks like.
rhart,
Thanks for the suggestion. You are correct the one at Kygunco doesn't have a rail.
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Nor does it have the streamlined beavertail (and ambi-safety). It's the standard CZ 75 Compact (safety, steel frame) based on that 01190 stock number. Good catch, rhart. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161019/86e2174a4db1438d65dc44cb1210ee48.png)
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I just ordered one from MrGunDealer. I printed out the picture and description from their website just in case the pistol that shows up is different. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
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I just ordered one from MrGunDealer. I printed out the picture and description from their website just in case the pistol that shows up is different. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
I wouldn't be too worried. The KYgunco has been listed wrong for quite some time before this batch of SP-01 Compacts showed up, so that one is wrong DONT order it. If you look at the UPC at Mr Gun Dealer and Anacortes they match, and they match the UPC of the ones in the pictures above. Should be safe as long as those UPC numbers match up.
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That's good to hear. I'm looking forward to getting it.
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Got my tracking number. Should be here Friday! I'll post pics when I get it home.
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Thank you, for now waiting on pulling the trigger to see what these look like.
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Purchased from MGD the other night and just waiting for tracking, but STILL can't wait to see others' pics!!
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My tracking for shipment is for Friday as well. Getting antsy.
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I am trying to get as many parts from the custom shops as I can with my budget. I am going to try and use this pistol to demonstrate a sort of upgrades buying guide. "So you want to upgrade to accomplish _______, here's parts options and here's what it improved." We'll see how far I can get on just 1 pistol and a limited budget. Makes getting this pistol all the more exciting though!
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Got mine today and ran 200 flawless rounds through her. A little less felt recoil due to all steel construction. The beaver tail is better IMHO than my P01 - can get a wee bit higher with the grip. Also, there's no lanyard ring. Not pleased with the trigger though, but that can be remedied with a race hammer, 85C trigger and lighter hammer spring. Overall I'm happy with it since I usually end up moding the trigger and such anyway.
UPDATE: I hate to say it, but I rushed to judgment in my haste to let others here on this forum know my first impressions. After dry-firing it SA about three hundred times and then cleaning and lubing it for the first time (yes, I shot it before cleaning/lubing it) the SA is really not bad at all. A tad long but it smoothed right out and with a lighter hammer spring I think it will be acceptable in the short term. It still cams back a very little but it feels lighter and smoother now.
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Got mine today as well. Won't get to make it to the range so I brought it home, took some pics, then cleaned it. A few things I noticed:
1) trigger isn't anything to write home about. I'll be replacing it though.
2) extended mag release
3) barrel ramp is polished
4) lots of lube, felt better after a cleaning. It stunk like rotten ocean too... Even the mags were goopy internally.
5) very thin safeties. Some people may like them but I'll be replacing them, my medium hands don't reach them well.
6) the beaver tail is definitely different. It reminds me a lot of my Tactical Sport beavertail... Don't have the TS anymore, but pics are below of my SP-01 and classic Compact.
Other than those things it's what I expected. I love it and I'm super excited to smooth out the trigger and get it to the range.
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Scarlet, that looks just like my pistol! Go figure. Anyway, did you look at the test target on yours yet? What kind of dispersion does yours have?
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Are the sights the standard glow in the dark paint?
Nice having the extended mag release already in, dealing with the trigger bar spring and the screw has been a bear.
Did it come with 2 mags or 3?
Finally is there a fpb?
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Are the sights the standard glow in the dark paint?
Nice having the extended mag release already in, dealing with the trigger bar spring and the screw has been a bear.
Did it come with 2 mags or 3?
Finally is there a fpb?
Looks like the sights are standard glow in the dark paint of the front sight.
There is a FPB.
Came with the 2 in the box. Just had some others for comparison.
The dispersion was 70.4 mm. One dropped a little low and right, most are just a little right of POA. I played with how tight the barrel lock up is and it feels tighter than my Classic Compact that has the CGW bushing in it...
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Thanks for sharing your observations and photos. Nice looking pistols and a few years from now, someone's going to ask what are these? [emoji4]
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I've been wanting an all steel compact with a rail for quite a while now, but I really wanted one without the FPB - like a Shadow compact - but I'm happy with the SP01 Compact.
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I've been wanting an all steel compact with a rail for quite a while now, but I really wanted one without the FPB - like a Shadow compact - but I'm happy with the SP01 Compact.
Rhart, why not just take the FPB (and it's other parts) out and turn it into a shadow?
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I saw these pop up on Gunbroker and a few retailers listed on Slickguns a couple weeks or so ago and have been thinking about buying one, but ultimately decided that it's not really my dream CZ. I want this same gun, but with an aluminum alloy frame and serrated front and back of grip, like a P-01 with a safety. Will probably settle for a P-01 Omega once I can find one to check it out in person. A steel frame CZ 75 Compact is a heavy handgun. A full size H&K USP45 actually weighs less and is quite a bit larger (yes, I understand it's also made of plastic). I'm just not sure what I'd do with something like this when I already have an SP-01 and several pre-B 75's for range use, and my gun funds right now are going toward buying AR's prior to the election, so I decided to pass. If they are still available in 6 months or a year, I may reconsider.
Interesting to hear owners saying that the trigger is gritty. As you shoot it more, I'd be interested to hear how it smooths out. I picked up my SP-01 last month and it had such a buttery smooth trigger out of the box that I was under the impression that CZ had perhaps improved their production methods on new guns to improve the trigger pull on new guns.
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I've been wanting an all steel compact with a rail for quite a while now, but I really wanted one without the FPB - like a Shadow compact - but I'm happy with the SP01 Compact.
Rhart, why not just take the FPB (and it's other parts) out and turn it into a shadow?
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I'm hesitant to modify a safety feature on a carry gun. If I get overly excited and shoot someone unintentionally that modification could turn an accidental shooting into a manslaughter charge or something. At the very least it would not be good for a civil suit.
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For those of y'all that ordered on the mrgunbroker site, did you receive shipping notification emails directly from them, or from your receiving FFL?
Just getting anxious :o
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Received shipping notification from Mr Gun Dealer. Did you have your ffl email them a copy of their license. I emailed Mr Gun Dealer to make sure they had everything they needed to process my order.
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Received shipping notification from Mr Gun Dealer. Did you have your ffl email them a copy of their license. I emailed Mr Gun Dealer to make sure they had everything they needed to process my order.
Thanks SP!
FFL confirmed they'd sent the license. I've also emailed MGD to make sure they've got it all good but hadn't heard back.
I'll follow up with a phone call Monday.
Super excited, thank you again for posting this heads up thread.
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Im waiting also :(
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Just got the notification, mine will be delivered to my FFL dealer on Monday. 8)
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My trigger pull gauge arrived last night. Here's the new 75 Compact (SP-01 Compact) and my SP-01 that has been polished and has Cajun goodies installed, just for reference.
Single action:
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Double action:
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SP-01 Single Action:
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SP-01 Double Action:
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Classic SAO 75 Compact (polished, Cajun goodies, #15 main spring)
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Man I am tempted... But I would rather go to the P-01 and SP-01 tactical... I need to offload my P-02 and SP-01 which I don't think will be particularly hard since I have all cajun guts inside both and the SP-01 trigger and P-02 have silky smooth triggers already.
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Just got the notification, mine will be delivered to my FFL dealer on Monday. 8)
Has anybody else receive a notification from mrgundealer? So far I'm not impressed at the lack of communication.
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Just got the notification, mine will be delivered to my FFL dealer on Monday. 8)
Has anybody else receive a notification from mrgundealer? So far I'm not impressed at the lack of communication.
Hey Bret,
I got a notification when it was shipped and delivered. I actually knew when it was delivered way before my FFL called me to let me know it arrived.
Took a shot of both Compacts with Rail.
Top - Steel - Manual Safety
Bottom - Alloy - Decocker
Weight difference is noticeable!
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a319/rst1121/48298d59-03bd-42ec-9e31-11ba6d24d4db.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/rst1121/media/48298d59-03bd-42ec-9e31-11ba6d24d4db.jpg.html)
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Shipping Costs for me on Mr Gun Dealer $29.99. Total price: $563.97. Didn't push the "Place Order" button yet. Still reading the other thread on these.
Is this trigger pull as gritty as a PCR? Is the guide rod plastic?
Kind of bummed this doesn't have Tru-Dot night sites like the full size SP-01. Also it looks like the ambi safety levers are different on each side. EDIT: Nevermind, the safeties match although they're quite large. Thx
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Shipping Costs for me on Mr Gun Dealer $29.99. Total price: $563.97. Didn't push the "Place Order" button yet. Still reading the other thread on these.
Is this trigger pull as gritty as a PCR? Is the guide rod plastic?
Kind of bummed this doesn't have Tru-Dot night sites like the full size SP-01. Also it looks like the ambi safety levers are different on each side. EDIT: Nevermind, the safeties match although they're quite large. Thx
It's probably pics that make the safeties look that way, but they are actually the slim safeties. The guide rod is plastic. Can't speak to the pcr comparison.
Notice the line on the frame above the grips on the pcr and SP-01 compact. The frame widens slightly and I am guessing it's for more material and more strength on the alloy frames. The steel frames on the classic Compact and SP-01 don't widen like that. But, the SP-01 Compact frame does. If you pistol whipped a tank with this it's arguable the tank loses. OK, maybe a slight exaggeration but whoever ordered these wanted a very durable pistol. I can't wait to shoot mine, it balances better than the SP-01 since its compact but it still have plenty of heft, I think it's a great combo! I'll post in a few days as I progress through my polishing.
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Shipping Costs for me on Mr Gun Dealer $29.99. Total price: $563.97. Didn't push the "Place Order" button yet. Still reading the other thread on these.
Is this trigger pull as gritty as a PCR? Is the guide rod plastic?
Kind of bummed this doesn't have Tru-Dot night sites like the full size SP-01. Also it looks like the ambi safety levers are different on each side. EDIT: Nevermind, the safeties match although they're quite large. Thx
It's probably pics that make the safeties look that way, but they are actually the slim safeties. The guide rod is plastic. Can't speak to the pcr comparison.
Notice the line on the frame above the grips on the pcr and SP-01 compact. The frame widens slightly and I am guessing it's for more material and more strength on the alloy frames. The steel frames on the classic Compact and SP-01 don't widen like that. But, the SP-01 Compact frame does. If you pistol whipped a tank with this it's arguable the tank loses. OK, maybe a slight exaggeration but whoever ordered these wanted a very durable pistol. I can't wait to shoot mine, it balances better than the SP-01 since its compact but it still have plenty of heft, I think it's a great combo! I'll post in a few days as I progress through my polishing.
Thanks for the info. I think this SP-01 Compact will make a great first gun. I was looking a the PCR and P-01 but they're rarely in stock. I almost ordered the Railed D Compact before I noticed these threads about the SP-01 Compact. Looks like there's about 400 of these left in the warehouse.
Please do let us know how you made out with the polishing and what parts made a difference in the trigger pull. Thanks.
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Has anyone weighed their "SP01 Compact" yet? It does feel a little heavier empty than my aluminum-framed P01 does loaded. If I had an accurate scale I would weigh it myself. Personally, I really like all-steel pistols (which is one reason my Shadow is my favorite pistol and the SP01 is a close second), so this is not a problem for me. I'm sure it would make a difference on one's back if carried at 3:00 or 5:00 all day, but the SP01 Compact doesn't bother me at all carrying IWB appendix carry. I've been carrying it ever since receiving it - along with my regular carry pistol since this new one hasn't been proven out yet.
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Rhart,
Quick weigh in of both pistols from pics above.
SP-01 compact - 950 gms (without mag and aftermkt grips)
Alloy Compact - 690 gms (without mag and aftermkt grips)
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Notice the line on the frame above the grips on the pcr and SP-01 compact. The frame widens slightly and I am guessing it's for more material and more strength on the alloy frames. The steel frames on the classic Compact and SP-01 don't widen like that. But, the SP-01 Compact frame does. If you pistol whipped a tank with this it's arguable the tank loses. OK, maybe a slight exaggeration but whoever ordered these wanted a very durable pistol.
I think someone was trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. Perhaps after they were made the buyer decided that they weigh too much. Or, perhaps someone accidentally used the wrong forging.
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I agree with you Bret. But I'll reap from their mistake, because now I have what I've been looking for!
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Notice the line on the frame above the grips on the pcr and SP-01 compact. The frame widens slightly and I am guessing it's for more material and more strength on the alloy frames. The steel frames on the classic Compact and SP-01 don't widen like that. But, the SP-01 Compact frame does. If you pistol whipped a tank with this it's arguable the tank loses. OK, maybe a slight exaggeration but whoever ordered these wanted a very durable pistol.
I think someone was trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. Perhaps after they were made the buyer decided that they weigh too much. Or, perhaps someone accidentally used the wrong forging.
I'm guessing an over-run on an order. Seems to me (I could be wrong) that a large order of pistols in Europe would either be a military order or national police order. I have worked for companies who would make over-runs (by accident or on purpose) and hope the customer takes the product. Economies of scale and all that. Maybe they cast an overage of frames thinking scrap rate would be high, but it was not - may as well make the guns knowing a market exists for them somewhere in the world.
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Hmmm...which head of state or chief of internal security was recently replaced? [emoji3]
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I wonder why the Euro party didn't buy them and if it had anything to do with the gun itself? Like the gun's weight? Sights? Trigger pull?
Wonder why it smelled like foul ocean as Scarlett said? Is there a manufacture date noted anywhere? Maybe they sat in storage.
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Cheaper with Buds at $551 shipped.
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I just finished with the current upgrades to mine when I put new G10 VZ black tactical diamonds grips on it and the 85C trigger - both if which arrived today. When I installed the 85C trigger I put in a CGW reduced power trigger spring and floating trigger pin. Man, the floating trigger pin makes putting in the trigger spring a snap. It feels much better in my hand with the new grips. The tactical diamonds grips are pretty aggressive (cheese grater) and so I customized them by sanding them down a bit to suit me like I did the other set I have on my P01.
Earlier this week I put in CGW's ultra-light kit (13 pound hammer spring, extended firing pin with reduced power spring and reduced power firing pin block spring as well as their firing pin retaining pin). DA pull feels much lighter and SA is feeling a tad lighter as well. I also installed a 14# recoil spring.
SA pull is a little long so I'm toying with the idea of putting in a new hammer and short reset disco. May as well go whole-hog I guess.
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Thanks to this thread I was able to figure out which distributor they went to, and snatched up a few. There is a decocker model as well that isn't a P01, and and the description on a couple sites says steel frame, so a SP01 Tactical Compact basically. Got a few of those too 8)
One of them is going to get stripped, polished, hot blued, get a nice set of wood stocks, and be on my hip on my wedding day. :D
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Century imported the Canik Stingray Cs a couple years back that had steel frame and slides and ambi safeties... A superb pistol and one of the best value pistols purchases I've made in recent years (was something like $300 or from JG Sales IIRC)... Of course, Century is no longer importing -- Century being Century...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f62yuHuUAO8
Getting my CC out for one of these!
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Slickguns has a good UPC search:
https://www.slickguns.com/search/apachesolr_search/806703990217?view=list
Compare Prices Price CC Price Shipping rate
Mr Gun Dealer $533.98 - $29.99 on Firearms
Southern Shooters Guns and Gear $536.79 - $38 S/H on Firearms
Anacortes Gun Shop $557.32 - $0 - $39 on Firearms
Tombstone Tactical $560.95 - Free Shipping on all firearms
Buds Gun Shop $562.00 $578.86 (3%) Firearms FREE, Acc/Ammo FREE with $199 Min Order
White Birch Ammo LLC $562.24 -
Buds pricematch and free shipping is $551 cash and by my calculations $567 credit card. But free shipping.
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Thanks to this thread I was able to figure out which distributor they went to, and snatched up a few. There is a decocker model as well that isn't a P01, and and the description on a couple sites says steel frame, so a SP01 Tactical Compact basically. Got a few of those too 8)
One of them is going to get stripped, polished, hot blued, get a nice set of wood stocks, and be on my hip on my wedding day. :D
Mind pointing us the right direction?
This the decocker version referenced? -- not the same beaverail but not seeing anything similar elsewhere in my searches at these dealers...
https://www.slickguns.com/search/apachesolr_search/806703990033?view=list
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Century imported the Canik Stingray Cs a couple years back that had steel frame and slides and ambi safeties... A superb pistol and one of the best value pistols purchases I've made in recent years (was something like $300 or from JG Sales IIRC)... Of course, Century is no longer importing -- Century being Century...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f62yuHuUAO8
Getting my CC out for one of these!
I've got one in black. Good pistol, but the gun shoots high at any range and I couldn't find any sights to fit in order to correct. No malfunctions whatsoever. Do not care for the funky chamber indicator.
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Oh I've been waiting for an all steel P-01. I even had a full chrome Stingray-C to try and fill the void, but still sought after that all steel P-01. I just saw about these all steel P-01s today, and I have coming to me from Buds Gun Shop. FINALLY!!!!! I'm getting what I've wanted for freaking years. YES!!!!!
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Took the "SP01 Compact" to the range after the upgrades for a function check. Ran 200 more rounds through without any problems whatsoever. I don't remember if I mentioned it before, but the rear sight was off to the left so the gun was shooting a little left. I pushed the sight to the right (which centered it on the gun) and it is now shooting straight.
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Has anybody else receive a notification from mrgundealer? So far I'm not impressed at the lack of communication.
I called today to check the status of my order. The guy I spoke with said that it was waiting to be picked up by the post office. I received a tracking number later in the day via email.
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I've got one in black. Good pistol, but the gun shoots high at any range and I couldn't find any sights to fit in order to correct. No malfunctions whatsoever. Do not care for the funky chamber indicator.
There were a few different rear sights on these. Some came adjustable and some fixed. Believe stock CZ sights fit with minimal fitting. I just wanted mine for a truck gun and it shoots a couple inches high (fixed sight) at 25 yards, but center so I just use a hold. Eventually I plan to tune it and get better sights, but for now I'm happy.
I have been kicking myself for not getting a near complete set (not really big into chrome on my guns, so skipping that one) and getting the ODG, Tan, and Titanium as well as the black I originally purchased...
Main difference between the Canik and this CZ is that the Canik has the slide release on both sides while the CZ is just on the right per pics.
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I received my email from MrGunDealer today. It will reach my FFL on Monday.
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I received my email from MrGunDealer today. It will reach my FFL on Monday.
Same here!
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I've got one in black. Good pistol, but the gun shoots high at any range and I couldn't find any sights to fit in order to correct. No malfunctions whatsoever. Do not care for the funky chamber indicator.
There were a few different rear sights on these. Some came adjustable and some fixed. Believe stock CZ sights fit with minimal fitting. I just wanted mine for a truck gun and it shoots a couple inches high (fixed sight) at 25 yards, but center so I just use a hold. Eventually I plan to tune it and get better sights, but for now I'm happy.
I have been kicking myself for not getting a near complete set (not really big into chrome on my guns, so skipping that one) and getting the ODG, Tan, and Titanium as well as the black I originally purchased...
Main difference between the Canik and this CZ is that the Canik has the slide release on both sides while the CZ is just on the right per pics.
Yeah, I was hoping for adjustable sights, but mine came with fixed sights. It shot about 2-feet high at 25-yards which is way too high for me even though I like 6 O'clock hold. I tried filing down the rear sight height and got POI down to about sixteen inches at 25-yards. I never knew CZ sights would work - I'll have to research it.
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Got my shipping notice too. Mine will be at my FFL by Tuesday.
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I ordered mine from MrGundealer and picked it up this morning. I am very impressed! It's quite a heavy little gun for it's size and is built like a tank. Fit and finish on mine is impeccable.
So far I have all the parts needed to upgrade it aside from the sights, but it'll likely be a few weeks until I can install everything and shoot it.
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afultz075,
What plans do you have for it? I got a Kit from CGW. I'm also looking at the Dawson Precision sights.
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Definitely would be interesting to see if other safeties will fit this thing since the frame is wider in that area vs. normal cz75. the safeties are extremely thin, but maybe wth thin grips they may seem better
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Mine just came in today, I am excited to try it out! O0
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Where's all the pictures? Mine is undergoing upgrades and I'm testing the trigger pull along the way. I'll have a big post with how much each upgrade/polished part makes a difference. In the meantime here's mine with the copper thin aluminum grips from CGW (after one of my part tests).
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Looks nice SP!
Yeah, where all the pics? I posted mine a few posts up..
Hey SP! Why does your Compact looks chaulky or is it the lighting?
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afultz075,
What plans do you have for it? I got a Kit from CGW. I'm also looking at the Dawson Precision sights.
VZ Grips, CGW Stainless Guide rod, Narrowed Shadow hammer from CZC, CGW sear, CGW Short Reset kit, CGW Type 2 disconnector, stainless mag brake from CZC, 85 Combat Trigger, a fiber optic front and a tactical rear from CZC. I am basically going to make it into a Shadow Line Compact clone, as I missed those when they released a batch of them into the US and this will end up cheaper than trying to track a Shadow Line Compact down on the secondary market.
Actually I'm pretty happy it worked out this way, as this gun has a steel frame, which I prefer, and the Shadow Line Compacts are alloy.
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Looks nice SP!
Yeah, where all the pics? I posted mine a few posts up..
Hey SP! Why does your Compact looks chaulky or is it the lighting?
Thanks! Got another day of polishing and testing and then I can finish it off. It's the lighting... Weird direct morning light was all I had.
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Nice grips!
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Where's all the pictures? Mine is undergoing upgrades and I'm testing the trigger pull along the way. I'll have a big post with how much each upgrade/polished part makes a difference. In the meantime here's mine with the copper thin aluminum grips from CGW (after one of my part tests).
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I've always liked those grips. I considered them for my Shadow but ended up going with VZ's. Are they the same thickness as the checkered aluminum grips from CZC ?
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I've always liked those grips. I considered them for my Shadow but ended up going with VZ's. Are they the same thickness as the checkered aluminum grips from CZC ?
Thanks rhart!
Jim,
Ooh good question. I'll measure them today when I'm back to my house. Supposedly they are the same thickness, but my checkered ones look thinner. I think the reason why is they basically start with the same grip and instead of cutting out spots for grip tape they machine in the checkered texture. So at the ridges of the checkering they are the same width. But, when looking to the edges of the grips against the frame the checkered grips look thinner because my eyes aren't drawn to the tops of the checkering. I'll add pics on this post and it should make more sense.
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Scarlett and others who mod their own pistols. You guys should make videos so guys like me can tinker like you (almost). If you guys know of any existing videos. Please post links here.
Thanks!
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Scarlett and others who mod their own pistols. You guys should make videos so guys like me can tinker like you (almost). If you guys know of any existing videos. Please post links here.
Thanks!
I'll post an entirely new thread with everything I do and testing along the way. I'll also include the how to portions. It'll take me into the next week to finish all the stuff and get it posted if you can wait a little longer for it.
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Scarlett and others who mod their own pistols. You guys should make videos so guys like me can tinker like you (almost). If you guys know of any existing videos. Please post links here.
Thanks!
I'll post an entirely new thread with everything I do and testing along the way. I'll also include the how to portions. It'll take me into the next week to finish all the stuff and get it posted if you can wait a little longer for it.
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That's what I'm talking about!! Can't wait!!!
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I've always liked those grips. I considered them for my Shadow but ended up going with VZ's. Are they the same thickness as the checkered aluminum grips from CZC ?
Thanks rhart!
Ooh good question. I'll measure them today when I'm back to my house. Supposedly they are the same thickness, but my checkered ones look thinner. I think the reason why is they basically start with the same grip and instead of cutting out spots for grip tape they machine in the checkered texture. So at the ridges of the checkering they are the same width. But, when looking to the edges of the grips against the frame the checkered grips look thinner because my eyes aren't drawn to the tops of the checkering. I'll add pics on this post and it should make more sense.
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Actually it was me Jim.c that asked about the grip thickness not rhart. You know your apprentice from Mesa. The one that keeps bugging you with questions. 8)
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Actually it was me Jim.c that asked about the grip thickness not rhart. You know your apprentice from Mesa. The one that keeps bugging you with questions. 8)
Sorry Jim, I did realize that when I responded and just spaced putting your name on my second paragraph...
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I'll post an entirely new thread with everything I do and testing along the way. I'll also include the how to portions. It'll take me into the next week to finish all the stuff and get it posted if you can wait a little longer for it.
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Actually it was me Jim.c that asked about the grip thickness not rhart. You know your apprentice from Mesa. The one that keeps bugging you with questions. 8)
Sorry Jim, I did realize that when I responded and just spaced putting your name on my second paragraph...
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Nothing to be sorry for. No worries :)
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The polishing is all done. The last step/part to install and test is the competition hammer and preliminary results are showing a comp or race Hammer to be the best upgrade for your money. I'll get the post written up hopefully by Tuesday.
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How much did it sell for on Gunbroker (if we are allowed to say). Looks like about $560-shipped from the "Mr Gun Dealer" web-site.
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Well I ordered one from Tombstone Tactical today for $561 shipped.
I just love CZ`s and have many! I will post some pics when it arrives.
Is it true only 500 of these were produced?
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You guys are a bad influence! I'm ordering one Friday...
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Is it true only 500 of these were produced?
Congrats and good choice! When I called to verify the specs of these pistols CZ explained their story a little and did say it was a batch of 500.
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Scarlett, When are you going to post the information on your new pistol ? Can't wait to see what you've done. Thanks, Jim.c
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Scarlett, When are you going to post the information on your new pistol ? Can't wait to see what you've done. Thanks, Jim.c
Probably tomorrow. Just finishing writing it all up. Still have to proof it, edit a few photos, then I'll put it in a thread. It was a lot of steps to document and write up. More work than I expected.
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Mailman brought the last of my CGW goodies today so I installed them immediately. I astonished myself at how easy and fast it went. The last time I messed with a sear cage it took me four hours to reassemble it because of that bleeping spring in the lifter arm. This time it went together in like 30 minutes and the darn sear spring gave me more trouble than the lifter spring. Anyway, I installed a production legal hammer with type 2 disconnector, an adjustable sear, and a short reset lifter arm with CGW spring. It all went so fast, even though I wasn't hurrying, that now I'm paranoid I messed something up.
Man oh man! The SA trigger is (I'm guessing) about 2.5 to 2.7 lbs with minimal travel before a nice clean break. The reset is short and sweet with almost no over-travel. I can't tell if the type 2 disco helped the DA or not, but with a 13 lb hammer spring its not bad at all. I'll take it out tomorrow and test fire it.
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Man oh man! The SA trigger is (I'm guessing) about 2.5 to 2.7 lbs with minimal travel before a nice clean break. The reset is short and sweet with almost no over-travel. I can't tell if the type 2 disco helped the DA or not, but with a 13 lb hammer spring its not bad at all. I'll take it out tomorrow and test fire it.
It goes fast once you're used to it. I can't tell you how many times I have disassembled this pistol and it gets effortless. I'll bet that is one smooth sweet trigger you have now!
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Anyone know what this one weighs??
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Man oh man! The SA trigger is (I'm guessing) about 2.5 to 2.7 lbs with minimal travel before a nice clean break. The reset is short and sweet with almost no over-travel. I can't tell if the type 2 disco helped the DA or not, but with a 13 lb hammer spring its not bad at all. I'll take it out tomorrow and test fire it.
It goes fast once you're used to it. I can't tell you how many times I have disassembled this pistol and it gets effortless. I'll bet that is one smooth sweet trigger you have now!
Yep! It sure is.
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Here it is! The test to see the impact each part had on trigger pull. Using my new SP-01 Compact as the test subject. There's more pictures to come in the next day or so, but I wanted to get this posted in hopes it helps people make some decisions on upgrades.
I'm no pro, so forgive the lack of a photo studio...
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=83591.msg618033#msg618033
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Scarlet did a very good job. Everybody needs to read it.
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Scarlet did a very good job. Everybody needs to read it.
Thanks rhart! Hope everyone takes advantage of the effort and what I found.
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Anyone know what IWB holsters might fit this?
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Anyone know what IWB holsters might fit this?
I haven't tested any but it should be the same frame as a P-01...
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Anyone know what IWB holsters might fit this?
It fits in bladetech for p01, however if you have safety on and move it around, it could bump it iff
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Being new to the compact and ambi CZ offerings, can the right side safety be removed? Said another way, could you de-ambi these?
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Being new to the compact and ambi CZ offerings, can the right side safety be removed? Said another way, could you de-ambi these?
No you couldn't remove the left side safety. These are pretty thin so of all the ambi CZ pistols I don't think th safeties would be in your way.
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Finally got out to shoot my SP-01 Compact. Put 97 rounds through it at an indoor range (didn't have time to drive further to shoot outdoors.) The way this pistol fits in my hands, the weight of the steel, the balance since it isn't as long as a full size SP-01, it's my favorite CZ I own now!
First shots, unsupported 15 yards, as fast as I could see the sight back on target. Just seeing that it works.
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Rounds 6-10. Supported like Joe L. 15 yards. I'm not a marksman so don't take this as ransom rest grade testing.
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2 mags 5 rnds each. 5 mags 3 rounds each. 25 total rounds. Fast as I could pull the trigger. 15 yards. It ate ammo from every various CZ mag I own.
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I was shoot mixed brass. 124 RN berry's. 5.6 gun BE-86 at recommended OAL (lazy way of me saying I forgot and don't want to go pull up my reloading journal right now). It ate every round with no hiccups. On the rapid 25 rounds there was some noticeable smoke down range. Fantastic ventilation system so it was gone quick. Even with a stout loading like that I didn't notice any major recoil. I love this gun!
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Decent shooting there Scarlet. Looks like your SP01 Compact is as good as mine.
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Yep, looks like a regular CZ pattern to me...tight and on target!
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Decent shooting there Scarlet. Looks like your SP01 Compact is as good as mine.
And Longonedaddy (can only figure out how to quote one comment in Tapatalk...) ,
Haha I wouldn't expect anything less from CZ. There is something about this pistol though, it just fits in my hands and shoots so nicely.
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Looking to purchase one of these guns and have a quick question. Can the kadet 2 be use on this gun ? It would be a great option if able to use the gun. Want a 2nd CZ and wife wants a 22 pistol, should would be a win for me! ;D ;D
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Looking to purchase one of these guns and have a quick question. Can the kadet 2 be use on this gun ? It would be a great option if able to use the gun. Want a 2nd CZ and wife wants a 22 pistol, should would be a win for me! ;D ;D
It has the P-01 frame, so according to the CZ USA site you'll need a different slide stop for last shot hold open. They'll send it to you.... It'll be nest to see it all up and running when you get it.
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When used on an aluminum-framed compact model (PCR, P-01 and P-06) as well as the steel-framed Compact .40, a specific slide-stop is required for proper last-round hold-open (part number 0440008002, available at no charge through our parts department).
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Thx
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You're most welcome!
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I saw these pop up on Gunbroker and a few retailers listed on Slickguns a couple weeks or so ago and have been thinking about buying one, but ultimately decided that it's not really my dream CZ. I want this same gun, but with an aluminum alloy frame and serrated front and back of grip, like a P-01 with a safety. Will probably settle for a P-01 Omega once I can find one to check it out in person. A steel frame CZ 75 Compact is a heavy handgun. A full size H&K USP45 actually weighs less and is quite a bit larger (yes, I understand it's also made of plastic). I'm just not sure what I'd do with something like this when I already have an SP-01 and several pre-B 75's for range use, and my gun funds right now are going toward buying AR's prior to the election, so I decided to pass. If they are still available in 6 months or a year, I may reconsider.
Interesting to hear owners saying that the trigger is gritty. As you shoot it more, I'd be interested to hear how it smooths out. I picked up my SP-01 last month and it had such a buttery smooth trigger out of the box that I was under the impression that CZ had perhaps improved their production methods on new guns to improve the trigger pull on new guns.
Satisficing wouldn't be a bad idea for the immediate future... If the gun is just for range and bedside, I don't know how these would do you wrong... There are only 500 of these and something like 300 left per online inventories, so I wouldn't wait if it's nearly but not quite what you want...
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Well I just placed my order on Mr gundealer ;D ;D
Cant wait!
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I received mine today. As I expected, it's pretty much a CZ75 Compact with an extra wide railed steel frame, more meat at the front of the slide and ambidextrous safety. The trigger feels OK, but the safety have no distinct point where you can feel that it's on or off. I've never had a CZ like this.
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I received mine today. As I expected, it's pretty much a CZ75 Compact with an extra wide railed steel frame, more meat at the front of the slide and ambidextrous safety. The trigger feels OK, but the safety have no distinct point where you can feel that it's on or off. I've never had a CZ like this.
Funny you mention the safety. After making the modification to my sear to allow the safety to work with the Competition Hammer mine was much more positive. It definitely wasn't my favorite safety on a CZ, but mostly because I don't have large hands and it wasn't the easiest to reach. Put grip tape on mine. Here's a video of it now.
https://youtu.be/aqVvtB7ZTBI
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I received mine today. As I expected, it's pretty much a CZ75 Compact with an extra wide railed steel frame, more meat at the front of the slide and ambidextrous safety. The trigger feels OK, but the safety have no distinct point where you can feel that it's on or off. I've never had a CZ like this.
You received yours today and I ordered mine today. With all the great information on the forum about this pistol I feel like I already have a good idea of what to expect. Can't wait to get it.
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I received mine today. As I expected, it's pretty much a CZ75 Compact with an extra wide railed steel frame, more meat at the front of the slide and ambidextrous safety. The trigger feels OK, but the safety have no distinct point where you can feel that it's on or off. I've never had a CZ like this.
Like Scarlet, I adjusted mine to be more positive. I installed CGW's adjustable sear and it was a snap (pun intended). ;D
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OK, looks like I'll have to make a purchase from CGW. So all I need is their adjustable sear?
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OK, looks like I'll have to make a purchase from CGW. So all I need is their adjustable sear?
I just manually worked on my OEM sear to fit it for the competition hammer. If you order a competition or race hammer and get the CGW adjustable sear it saves you time and effort from doing what I had to do. I'd recommend one of those hammers no questions asked. You can read my test on upgrades and get the details on how awesome they are. Then you can fit the OEM sear or get the adjustable one.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=83591.0
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Thanks!
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Bret, I initially complained about the poor definition of the safeties. There is a bunch of goopy preservative on these things. After cleaning out the preservative and proper lubrication and installing a bunch of new parts including a CZC comp hammer, a CGC disconnector, and a CGW adjustable sear, the safety actuation is very good. Its tactile and audible. It's not as snappy and positive as our shadows but its fine, safe and eminently useable.
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OK, looks like I'll have to make a purchase from CGW. So all I need is their adjustable sear?
If I didn't have to tear into the sear cage to install the short reset lifter arm, I would have done what Scarlet did. But since I had to tear the sear apart to install the short lifter arm anyway, I installed the adjustable sear. I couldn't see putting a competition hammer in without the short reset. The sear just makes it easier to adjust the safety.
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rhart I also think that the CGW sear is a higher quality part than the stock sear and that it may provide a smoother interface with the hammer. In addition, it most certainly makes fitting the safeties easy. I fitted a set of safeties to a stock sear once and it was definitely a PIA which I vowed to never repeat.
I certainly agree with you that if you are going to bother putting in a competition hammer and disassembling the sear cage it makes a lot of sense to put in a CGW lifter and sear and a short reset disconnector.
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rhart I also think that the CGW sear is a higher quality part than the stock sear and that it may provide a smoother interface with the hammer. In addition, it most certainly makes fitting the safeties easy. I fitted a set of safeties to a stock sear once and it was definitely a PIA which I vowed to never repeat.
I certainly agree with you that if you are going to bother putting in a competition hammer and disassembling the sear cage it makes a lot of sense to put in a CGW lifter and sear and a short reset disconnector.
I think you are correct. Definitely a higher quality part that gives a smoother interaction with the hammer.
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Got mine yesterday. Score! A great companion to the CZ 75C. I love the steel frame. Not a fan of steel slides on alloy frames, so this is just what the doctor ordered.
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I immediately set about with some routine upgrades....Hammer, sear, 13lb mainspring, extended FP, disconnector, ss guide rod, CZ97 thick trigger (the horrid recurve trigger HAD to go), grips, etc etc......She came out great. Feels like a custom shop gun! But I do think I'll put a slightly wider set of safeties on it. The type D slims are a bit too slim for my tastes. And yes, the race hammer IS much nicer with the polished billet sear mated to it.......
The double action is now a silky-smooth 6.9lbs, and single action is a crisp 3.0. She seems chunky until you handle it alongside a full-sized SP-01 Tac.....
Can't wait to shoot this all-steel "Mini SP-01" to verify its performance with my self defense loads, and to put her into the carry rotation later this week. A great buy and a super-cool little CZ. I'm glad I waited for a steel framed variant of the P-01!!!!
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Got mine yesterday. Score! A great companion to the CZ 75C. I love the steel frame. Not a fan of steel slides on alloy frames, so this is just what the doctor ordered.
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I immediately set about with some routine upgrades....Hammer, sear, 13lb mainspring, extended FP, disconnector, ss guide rod, CZ97 thick trigger (the horrid recurve trigger HAD to go), grips, etc etc......She came out great. Feels like a custom shop gun! But I do think I'll put a slightly wider set of safeties on it. The type D slims are a bit too slim for my tastes. And yes, the race hammer IS much nicer with the polished billet sear mated to it.......
The double action is now a silky-smooth 6.9lbs, and single action is a crisp 3.0. She seems chunky until you handle it alongside a full-sized SP-01 Tac.....
Can't wait to shoot this all-steel "Mini SP-01" to verify its performance with my self defense loads, and to put her into the carry rotation later this week. A great buy and a super-cool little CZ. I'm glad I waited for a steel framed variant of the P-01!!!!
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Beautiful work! Look great with those grips and upgrades, especially alongside its big brother! Let us know how shooting it goes.
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Got mine yesterday. Score! A great companion to the CZ 75C. I love the steel frame. Not a fan of steel slides on alloy frames, so this is just what the doctor ordered.
I immediately set about with some routine upgrades....Hammer, sear, 13lb mainspring, extended FP, disconnector, ss guide rod, CZ97 thick trigger (the horrid recurve trigger HAD to go), grips, etc etc......She came out great. Feels like a custom shop gun! But I do think I'll put a slightly wider set of safeties on it. The type D slims are a bit too slim for my tastes. And yes, the race hammer IS much nicer with the polished billet sear mated to it.......
The double action is now a silky-smooth 6.9lbs, and single action is a crisp 3.0. She seems chunky until you handle it alongside a full-sized SP-01 Tac.....
Can't wait to shoot this all-steel "Mini SP-01" to verify its performance with my self defense loads, and to put her into the carry rotation later this week. A great buy and a super-cool little CZ. I'm glad I waited for a steel framed variant of the P-01!!!!
Sweet! Did you do any polishing of internals?
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Yes, I polished all the internals, including the inside of the frame, the sear cage, sear, trigger bar, trigger surfaces, hammer strut, hammer surfaces, firing pin, sear and hammer pivot pins, disconnector, inside of my mainspring, barrel throat, slide rails, etc. I do a dress with 2000 grit and then a final with 7000 grit, for a baby-smooth surface polish. This includes even the aftermarket parts I received for the upgrades.
All the usual odd hitches, stumbles and burbles in the double action stroke are completely gone. The double action is silky smooth and consistent, with no stacking at the end of the travel. There is not a hint of creep or camming in the clean, crisp single action. The difference is huge. I am also a really big fan of the extra leverage that the CZ97 thick trigger gives me, with absolutely no "pinching" of my fingertip the way the stock recurve trigger pinches my finger behind it while I'm rapid-firing. I took some time and polished the sides, forward edges, and face of that 97 trigger until it was super-smooth, too. The wood grips I prefer are the correct size and shape to position my hand so that my trigger finger falls in the right spot on the trigger when I draw the gun, and the checkering is just enough to add grip without snagging on clothing or irritating skin while carrying. I buy the grips in the raw with just a light surface oil rubbed finish on them, and then I add a few coats of tung oil to them over a two-day period for waterproofing and durability, and to seal the grain, so I don't get cracks or splits. Makes 'em tough, durable AND attractive.
I really like the beavertail on this particular Compact. It's the perfect size and shape, and very comfy! The gun is really not much heavier than the standard steel-frame CZ75C compact. This may have become my favorite compact CZ ever. I also just added the 5.5mm x 3.1mm front tritium night sight to this SP-01 compact, which I had removed from my Shadow Tac II last month when I converted that gun to fiber optic. It is now the perfect carry piece, that you can also throw a light on in the evening for night-time home defense duty....!
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I called David this morning to get some insights on my testing of upgrade parts. When I brought up some differences in the depth of the dimple the firing pin causes in primers for this SP-01 Compact (deeper w a lighter hammer spring) compared to my Classic Compact he gave some great insight. He mentioned that CZ is notorious for running their tooling longer than they should, which results in some pistols with slightly less smooth finishes in places. He said that the difference I am seeing is likely caused by less inertia in my Classic Compact and it could be because the firing pin channel isn't as smooth (i.e. it got a little more worn out tooling). This could be the factor reducing the inertia slightly and thus causing a smaller dimple on the primers. He also confirmed that this is nothing to do with the placement of the firing pin retaining pin. I forgot to ask if we should be polishing firing pin channels.... I ask when I call back about safety and frame measurements for these pistols.
Aside from that long explanation. He mentioned that when a special order comes through it is highly likely that CZ runs the pistols through with fresh tooling to insure the highest quality results. Many have continued to mention excellent fit and finish in this pistols and it would seem that this could be confirmed (better maintained tooling, because they were special order). Now I don't say this as any sort of guarantee, I definitely don't rep CZ and I know there's always potential for an error. Just some observations coming together and sharing my thoughts. Seems like this is an excellent pistol in more ways than we may have initially bargained. Possibly closer to custom quality potential than the average mass produced pistol.
Side note: Threw in the 11.5lb hammer spring from my CGW kit. The trigger pulls dropped dramatically, definitely more than I expected from just the 13 lb hammer spring I had previously. Check these out! Going to do some testing, got some guidance from David. I'll post results in my testing thread. I just can't express how unbelievable my trigger feels and how much I want this to function 100%. The single action break is now comparable to my Tactical Sport (back when I had it). Yes, yes... I know safety concerns at such a light trigger. I built subconscious memory with lots of practice with my Tactical Sport. That pistol raised my trigger awareness to the next level. I will definitely give people a brief and some dry fire before trying it. I preface because I know I will get concerned members, which I do appreciate everyone looking out for one another.
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I found this same thing with the 11.5lb spring in here. The DA is amazing and the SA is on the verge of too light. I actually put the 13 lb mainspring back in for now. I don't want to even RISK a light strike in a self-defense gun, so I err on the side of polishing the gun slick as heck and just running a little heavier mainspring.
While I am running it through its paces on Sunday with different ammo I might just throw the 11.5lb mainspring back in, to see if it is 100% reliable with the primers in my chosen self-defense ammo......Can't help myself.....But I really don't need the single action any less than 3 lbs, either.... : )
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I received my Compact SP-01 yesterday and compared the workmanship to my 40 caliber P-06. The workmanship and tooling definitely look better on the Compact than on my P-06. The finish even looks better. The inside of the P-06 was not even fully covered with paint or whatever CZ uses on the exterior of their coated pistols.
I am going to install the 13LB hammer spring along with the EFP from CGW as I have done with all my CZ`s. This is a very inexpensive and easy way to really improve the trigger on these.
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Stupid question I am sure, but do these fit the PO1 holsters? I just ordered my pistol, and want a holster for IDPA
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Hi Scarlett, The more I read about this pistol the more excited I get about mine finally getting here. I got notice today that the seller has everything they need to ship. Hopefully it will be here next week. BTW I really like those grips. Are they as thin or thinner that the ones on your Compact with the aluminum checkered grips ? Are the aluminum checkered grips from CZC or the CZ web site ?
Thanks, Jim
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Hi Scarlett, The more I read about this pistol the more excited I get about mine finally getting here. I got notice today that the seller has everything they need to ship. Hopefully it will be here next week. BTW I really like those grips. Are they as thin or thinner that the ones on your Compact with the aluminum checkered grips ? Are the aluminum checkered grips from CZC or the CZ web site ?
Thanks, Jim
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Congratulations! You'll have it in no time. Thanks. Measuring both pistols with the grips on these copper ones are actually slightly thinner but only by 2 hundredths. The aluminum checkered grips are from CZ Custom. Mine were an extra aggressive set that I haven't seen on there for a while for the Compact. They are pretty darn aggressive so it's probably good that the normal ones are in stock.
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To the followers of this thread:
I now have a major problem. I have propogated this batch of SP-01 Compacts because I was excited about them. After shooting mine and dry firing it my issue developed. It fits my hands and grip in a way I can't describe, it's just so good. The weight and balance, all of it just has drawn me in. I see the number of available pistols slowly diminishing and I want another for my future self to always have this wonderful fit and feel. I no longer want to proselytize the SP-01 Compact! I want to delete all related posts so enough remain in stock that I can raise funds and buy another. I've never felt so greedy about a CZ... And while this may sound sarcastic and funny there is a part of me that is totally serious! Mods, consider erasing all posts about these pistols for my better good!
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Question for all of you that have purchased on of these guns. What was the time frame to receive it? I order one on Monday and haven't received any shipping info to date. I sent an email and asked if they had all the info needed and received a reply stating yes. They also stated it would ship soon. Just anxious and waiting LOL
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Question for all of you that have purchased on of these guns. What was the time frame to receive it? I order one on Monday and haven't received any shipping info to date. I sent an email and asked if they had all the info needed and received a reply stating yes. They also stated it would ship soon. Just anxious and waiting LOL
Ordered mine on Oct 15th 1:00 am.
Got shipping number on Oct 19th.
Arrived on Oct 21st.
But there might have been a run on guns before the election so they might be a little slower right now...
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Question for all of you that have purchased on of these guns. What was the time frame to receive it? I order one on Monday and haven't received any shipping info to date. I sent an email and asked if they had all the info needed and received a reply stating yes. They also stated it would ship soon. Just anxious and waiting LOL
I ordered mine on Monday as well and they just got everything they needed yesterday. I'm hopeful it will be here next week. I'm also sure the election has had an affect on shipping time.
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To the followers of this thread:
I now have a major problem. I have propogated this batch of SP-01 Compacts because I was excited about them. After shooting mine and dry firing it my issue developed. It fits my hands and grip in a way I can't describe, it's just so good. The weight and balance, all of it just has drawn me in. I see the number of available pistols slowly diminishing and I want another for my future self to always have this wonderful fit and feel. I no longer want to proselytize the SP-01 Compact! I want to delete all related posts so enough remain in stock that I can raise funds and buy another. I've never felt so greedy about a CZ... And while this may sound sarcastic and funny there is a part of me that is totally serious! Mods, consider erasing all posts about these pistols for my better good!
You are not helping my wallet!
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To the followers of this thread:
I now have a major problem. I see the number of available pistols slowly diminishing and I want another for my future self to always have this wonderful fit and feel. I want to delete all related posts so enough remain in stock that I can raise funds and buy another.
Don't worry too much. In over a month, less than 90 have sold. There are at least 380 or more left out there just on Gunbroker, and even Kentucky Gun Co and Buds both still have a bunch of them, as well. You probably have a couple or few months to get your green beans together for round two.....
You probably do need another, since you have two hands! :D No one wants an idle hand..... I'm the same guy, I believe in having multiples of anything I find inspiring....
I was surprised to find that my shooting friends don't like the extra heft of the steel frame, and tend to prefer the lighter P-01 variant with its alloy frame. Not me. I may be in the minority, but I prefer the extra weight and the recoil management it provides, as well as its pointing and handling characteristics. The extra ounces don't hamper me for carry purposes, as I've carried full sized 1911's, Sigs and CZ's for a long time. I've also owned Sigs with alloy frames, where the steel slides began eating at the alloy rails no matter how well the guns were cared for, maintained, serviced, cleaned, and lubed with costly synthetic greases. The alloy also gets dinged and chewed up much easier than steel. So alloy frames just aren't my bag. I have no idea how well the CZ alloy compact frames hold up, but if stainless guide rods start chewing the frame up inside, I can't imagine how a steel slide stop pin wouldn't begin hammering at the slide stop pin holes in the alloy frames....For me, having the choice, for the money I'll stick with steel...
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You are not helping my wallet!
Hahahaha Like I said, I mean it. I hope people stop buying these so I can have enough time to amass the funds to get another. So my selfish side hopes you're serious and I am talking you out of it... [emoji48]
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Don't worry too much. In over a month, less than 90 have sold. There are at least 380 or more left out there just on Gunbroker, and even Kentucky Gun Co and Buds both still have a bunch of them, as well. You probably have a couple or few months to get your green beans together for round two.....
You probably do need another, since you have two hands! :D No one wants an idle hand..... I'm the same guy, I believe in having multiples of anything I find inspiring....
I hope you're right! Yeah, these have some heft and I know it's not for everyone... The less people that see these as appealing the better for us steel loving duel wielding CZ'ers.
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Don't worry too much. In over a month, less than 90 have sold. There are at least 380 or more left out there just on Gunbroker, and even Kentucky Gun Co and Buds both still have a bunch of them, as well. You probably have a couple or few months to get your green beans together for round two.....
You probably do need another, since you have two hands! :D No one wants an idle hand..... I'm the same guy, I believe in having multiples of anything I find inspiring....
I hope you're right! Yeah, these have some heft and I know it's not for everyone... The less people that see these as appealing the better for us steel loving duel wielding CZ'ers.
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I'm with you. I currently own 4 all steel hand guns and I like them much better than ploy/plastic guns. I'm now on the hunt for a 97B to round out my CZ collection. I got a little side tracked with this new SP-01 Compact but I felt like I should get it while I could.
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I got a little side tracked with this new SP-01 Compact but I felt like I should get it while I could.
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I did the same thing, recently buying a steel CZ75C compact (great sale came up) and the limited production SP-01 Compact. If there's one thing I've learned over many years of collecting firearms, if something appeals to you in a big way and you have the means, go for it, and you will avoid future regret! Gun models come and go, often never to return in certain configurations, and when something speaks to you it is usually for a reason. Typically the guns I've bought that just made sense to me enough to get me to pull out my wallet with a bit of a sense of urgency at their availability, have turned out to be some of my favorite firearms. "Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda" is not a big part of my vocabulary. You have to trust your gut on these things, and act on it, if you want to learn and grow with your passions and interests. After collecting CZ's for over 25 years, I'm really glad I finally took this little side-trip detour into the world of the Compacts! I had grossly overlooked them.
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I did the same thing, recently buying a steel CZ75C compact (great sale came up) and the limited production SP-01 Compact. If there's one thing I've learned over many years of collecting firearms, if something appeals to you in a big way and you have the means, go for it, and you will avoid future regret! Gun models come and go, often never to return in certain configurations, and when something speaks to you it is usually for a reason. Typically the guns I've bought that just made sense to me enough to get me to pull out my wallet with a bit of a sense of urgency at their availability, have turned out to be some of my favorite firearms. "Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda" is not a big part of my vocabulary. You have to trust your gut on these things, and act on it, if you want to learn and grow with your passions and interests. After collecting CZ's for over 25 years, I'm really glad I finally took this little side-trip detour into the world of the Compacts! I had grossly overlooked them.
Good point.
I learned that one years ago with non-mainstream music. If I saw and liked a band, not buying their album (later CD) that day may mean never having a second chance to do so.
Most of the CZ pistols I've bought this year were focused on the demo kit. I'm torn about the "SP-01 Compact" since a P-01 would fit better in the demo kit (being a cataloged model and all). LGS even has an Olive Drab P-01 to tempt me.
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Good point.
I learned that one years ago with non-mainstream music. If I saw and liked a band, not buying their album (later CD) that day may mean never having a second chance to do so.
Most of the CZ pistols I've bought this year were focused on the demo kit. I'm torn about the "SP-01 Compact" since a P-01 would fit better in the demo kit (being a cataloged model and all). LGS even has an Olive Drab P-01 to tempt me.
Eastman, what do you mean by demo kit?
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Good point.
I learned that one years ago with non-mainstream music. If I saw and liked a band, not buying their album (later CD) that day may mean never having a second chance to do so.
Most of the CZ pistols I've bought this year were focused on the demo kit. I'm torn about the "SP-01 Compact" since a P-01 would fit better in the demo kit (being a cataloged model and all). LGS even has an Olive Drab P-01 to tempt me.
Eastman, what do you mean by demo kit?
I work through the company that represents CZ-USA in the upper Midwest (MI, IN, WI, IL, MN, IA) along with about 30 other shooting/hunting/fishing/marine companies. In 2016, I have run demos for CZ and Otis Technologies gun cleaning products. At the last CZ event, I had 10 of my pistols along with the range's CZ75B and P-09, and a borrowed Scorpion (they now have one as a range rental).
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I work through the company that represents CZ-USA in the upper Midwest (MI, IN, WI, IL, MN, IA) along with about 30 other shooting/hunting/fishing/marine companies. In 2016, I have run demos for CZ and Otis Technologies gun cleaning products. At the last CZ event, I had 10 of my pistols along with the range's CZ75B and P-09, and a borrowed Scorpion (they now have one as a range rental).
Oh that's cool! Sounds like you have a pretty sweet gig! Well, every person who decides to pass on these pistols means I have more time to save up and get my second one...
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Well mine came in today, not in time for any range fun though .
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That looks really good up close. I'm glad I ordered one.
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Looks great!
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Dang it, you guys talked me into another pistol....and $300 worth of Cajun Gun Works parts to make it "proper". O0
Hopefully it comes in this week for Thanksgiving week modification time.
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I have gotten mine all cleaned and lubed but haven't had a chance to get to the range. I was thinking about changing out the grips but I dont think I am going to. The stock grips feal really good.
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I just got notice that mine will be delivered on Wednesday. It took a little longer due to Veterans Day. I can't wait to get it :D
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It's interesting to see what everyone ends up doing to theirs... Stock, polishing, upgrades... Share pics of em and when ya'll take them to the range.
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It's interesting to see what everyone ends up doing to theirs... Stock, polishing, upgrades... Share pics of em and when ya'll take them to the range.
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I need to put some rounds through it before I decide, but the trigger feels fine to me . Better than my HK45ct. Probably change the sights , maybe the grips just for aesthetics.
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Just received an email stating that my gun has shipped and will arrive Thursday! Also my neighbor and shooting partner just ordered a P07 that will be in Wednesday. Sounds like a good weekend at the range! :)
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Just received an email stating that my gun has shipped and will arrive Thursday! Also my neighbor and shooting partner just ordered a P07 that will be in Wednesday. Sounds like a good weekend at the range! :)
A good weekend indeed!
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It's interesting to see what everyone ends up doing to theirs... Stock, polishing, upgrades... Share pics of em and when ya'll take them to the range.
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I need to put some rounds through it before I decide, but the trigger feels fine to me . Better than my HK45ct. Probably change the sights , maybe the grips just for aesthetics.
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Always a wise decision!
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I hear the aftermarket aluminum grips on the are a bit thinner than stock. They do look nice.Any opinions on these? Thanks in advance.
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I hear the aftermarket aluminum grips on the are a bit thinner than stock. They do look nice.Any opinions on these? Thanks in advance.
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I have medium sized hands, so I don't like any extra grip thickness on the grip under my trigger finger (joint and what not) because it reduces my reach. The thin aluminum grips are definitely thinner than the stock rubber grips and give me more reach with my trigger finger. I have them on all three of my CZ's.
They are pricey through, so you could consider the Lok grips. They are a little thicker than the thin aluminum grips, but I hear great things and I think they are on ebay for around $50...
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Anyone having issues trying to order? Order doesn't seem to be going through after trying.
Try buds, I ordered one w/ no probs , can't wait!
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I bought mine from Tombstone Tactical. It was delivered to my FFl in 4 days after ordering.
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I hear the aftermarket aluminum grips on the are a bit thinner than stock. They do look nice.Any opinions on these? Thanks in advance.
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I have medium sized hands, so I don't like any extra grip thickness on the grip under my trigger finger (joint and what not) because it reduces my reach. The thin aluminum grips are definitely thinner than the stock rubber grips and give me more reach with my trigger finger. I have them on all three of my CZ's.
They are pricey through, so you could consider the Lok grips. They are a little thicker than the thin aluminum grips, but I hear great things and I think they are on ebay for around $50...
Thanks for the reply!I have large hands so the stock grips are not an issue for me. The aluminum grips do look nice! I may get a set to try them out.
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CGW has some pretty nice grips with a starburst type of pattern at a very nice price. They were out of the compacts the last time I checked though.
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I hear the aftermarket aluminum grips on the are a bit thinner than stock. They do look nice.Any opinions on these? Thanks in advance.
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I have medium sized hands, so I don't like any extra grip thickness on the grip under my trigger finger (joint and what not) because it reduces my reach. The thin aluminum grips are definitely thinner than the stock rubber grips and give me more reach with my trigger finger. I have them on all three of my CZ's.
They are pricey through, so you could consider the Lok grips. They are a little thicker than the thin aluminum grips, but I hear great things and I think they are on ebay for around $50...
Thanks for the reply!I have large hands so the stock grips are not an issue for me. The aluminum grips do look nice! I may get a set to try them out.
You might want to pick up a used set first then. I wear an XL glove and I couldn't get used to them. They look nice, but I prefer the LOK palm swell bogies, rubber grips and VZ diamonds in that order.
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Some thoughts after putting 140 rounds down the pipe today .
I see no issues with the trigger , both DA and SA felt fine and pretty crisp. I also didn't find the DA heavy ( I am use to issued M9s and my HK45ct so I am not exactly a trigger snob)
The grips felt good, kind of ugly but I'll deal (my hands are massive ).
POI was slightly left of POA, not sure if it was me or the sights ( I am an experienced shooter, but by no means perfect ).
It fed the !@##ty range reloads pretty well, one stove pipe but it was pretty obvious that it was a weak round ( felt like a .22)
Felt pretty balanced, and sturdy . I'd like to say it pointed naturally but with the slight POI/POA issue I am not sure I am ready to say that
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Some thoughts after putting 140 rounds down the pipe today .
I see no issues with the trigger , both DA and SA felt fine and pretty crisp. I also didn't find the DA heavy ( I am use to issued M9s and my HK45ct so I am not exactly a trigger snob)
The grips felt good, kind of ugly but I'll deal (my hands are massive ).
POI was slightly left of POA, not sure if it was me or the sights ( I am an experienced shooter, but by no means perfect ).
It fed the !@##ty range reloads pretty well, one stove pipe but it was pretty obvious that it was a weak round ( felt like a .22)
Felt pretty balanced, and sturdy . I'd like to say it pointed naturally but with the slight POI/POA issue I am not sure I am ready to say that
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Thanks for taking the time to post. Good to hear more and more thoughts as people get theirs.
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Here is a link from me testing different ammo with the lighter hammer springs from CGW.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=83954.0
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Just snagged up one of these as well fro MrGunDealer. I have to give up the mags (unfortunately live in NY) but am just happy to get the pistol. I love my SP-01 and just wished there was a smaller one at times for carrying, this fits the bill perfectly.
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I picked one of these up a week ago or so as well... Fits right in with my SP-01 & Compact-L, all being manual safety!
I have not taken it to the range yet, but initial thoughts are the thin safety is hard for me to manipulate 100% of the time, and would be even worse in a stressful situation. I also don't like how far the slide lock lever sticks out on the right side of the frame. The frame is chamfered for a much shorter piece...
My plans for the trigger will match my SP-01... CGW SRS-2 short reset kit & some light polishing.
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I need to put some rounds through it before I decide, but the trigger feels fine to me . Better than my HK45ct. Probably change the sights , maybe the grips just for aesthetics.
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I just got mine today and I agree the trigger feels pretty good. After it's cleaned and I put a few hundred rounds through it I'll see how it is. Right now all I'm thinking of doing is possibly grips and maybe new sights. At the most I might do the CGW Ultra Light Kit to help reduce the DA pull.
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I have not taken it to the range yet, but initial thoughts are the thin safety is hard for me to manipulate 100% of the time, and would be even worse in a stressful situation
K.
I've got a Tactical Sport safety arriving soon. I'll post pics of when I get installed. That way those who don't reach the safety easily know what alternatives will fit.
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I just got mine today and I agree the trigger feels pretty good. After it's cleaned and I put a few hundred rounds through it I'll see how it is. Right now all I'm thinking of doing is possibly grips and maybe new sights. At the most I might do the CGW Ultra Light Kit to help reduce the DA pull.
Congrats, it finally came! You're not far from CZ Custom, so you can always swing by with questions about parts like safeties. I'm definitely jealous!
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I'm looking at a FO Dawson sight set for this model - is it considered a 75 D compact or a P-01? Dawson has different sight heights between the two, and I'm not sure if it is just because of the sights or if it is something model specific.
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I just got mine today and I agree the trigger feels pretty good. After it's cleaned and I put a few hundred rounds through it I'll see how it is. Right now all I'm thinking of doing is possibly grips and maybe new sights. At the most I might do the CGW Ultra Light Kit to help reduce the DA pull.
Congrats, it finally came! You're not far from CZ Custom, so you can always swing by with questions about parts like safeties. I'm definitely jealous!
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Thanks Scarlett. This pistol seems like it's better than the average compact. I'm comparing it to the traditional compact I recently purchased. There's a huge difference in the two guns right out of the box. Extended mag release, lighter and smoother SA/DA trigger etc. Now I'm thinking about ordering a second one myself. I wonder if it has to do with the nature of the original order ? Any thoughts ?
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I'm looking at a FO Dawson sight set for this model - is it considered a 75 D compact or a P-01? Dawson has different sight heights between the two, and I'm not sure if it is just because of the sights or if it is something model specific.
At this point I'm not 100% sure what to call this gun. If you can remove the rear sight it should have a number on the under side. Probably a 4,5,or 6 then you can match the new sight with the factory sight. A sight pusher is a big help but not totally necessary. Good luck.
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I received my gun today! Went to the range and shot about 75 rounds thur it, great gun!
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I have not taken it to the range yet, but initial thoughts are the thin safety is hard for me to manipulate 100% of the time, and would be even worse in a stressful situation
K.
I've got a Tactical Sport safety arriving soon. I'll post pics of when I get installed. That way those who don't reach the safety easily know what alternatives will fit.
My hands/fingers are long, can palm a basketball... For me it's the amount of purchase available for my thumb on the slim safety, and maybe because of my long fingers it's kinda awkward. I installed Shadow safeties onto my SP-01 and love them. I also have a pair of TS safeties here I was going to try and fit to my Compact-L, but never did. I might see how yours comes out... I do like the slim safety for its purpose of comfort when concealed carry.
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I'll swap my safety out tomorrow, didn't have time tonight. I did get to shoot it for another 100 rounds tonight. Tested 90 rounds with CCI primers and 10 rounds with S&B primers and the 11.5 lb hammer spring. I seated all the primers very well. Had 3 failures with the CCI's and 3 with the S&B's. All fired after second strikes. These brands are on the harder side. But since they're all I have I'm going to switch back to the heavier hammer spring. When I do my part this pistol stacks those bullets together.
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Cool threads about this pistol, friends!
I never desired the rail versions of CZs, yet there IS something desireable about this one for some reason. However, I'm sticking to my guns right now and still name the standard steel compact as likely next to compliment my Matte Stainless and PCR. I much prefer its slide with no front serrations and lack of chamber loaded indicator. That being said, I might have succombed to the desire for this beast if it was in .40 S&W just.because.
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I'll swap my safety out tomorrow, didn't have time tonight. I did get to shoot it for another 100 rounds tonight. Tested 90 rounds with CCI primers and 10 rounds with S&B primers and the 11.5 lb hammer spring. I seated all the primers very well. Had 3 failures with the CCI's and 3 with the S&B's. All fired after second strikes. These brands are on the harder side. But since they're all I have I'm going to switch back to the heavier hammer spring. When I do my part this pistol stacks those bullets together.
I don't remember, and w/o re-reading the entire thread again... Do you have an extended firing pin installed already? I run the 11.5lb hammer in my SP-01 and it's been flawless, but that's running factory ammo. Mostly S&B, with a mix of CCI blazer, PMC, etc...
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I don't remember, and w/o re-reading the entire thread again... Do you have an extended firing pin installed already?
I do have the extended firing pin and reduced power firing pin spring. When I chatted with Cajun Gun Works they said that due to machining tolerances every pistol is different and some run all ammo no problems while others have some light strikes like mine did... Wish mine was like your SP-01...
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I do have the extended firing pin and reduced power firing pin spring. When I chatted with Cajun Gun Works they said that due to machining tolerances every pistol is different and some run all ammo no problems while others have some light strikes like mine did... Wish mine was like your SP-01...
By chance, did you measure the hammer spring installed length on the compact? Would be interesting to see if it differs from both the compact & full size, both hammer cocked and decocked postions. Then compare the spring pressure differences...
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I haven't... Tonight I'm gonna swap my safety and take some measurements so I'll check then and report on it.
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I haven't... Tonight I'm gonna swap my safety and take some measurements so I'll check then and report on it.
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I have a couple of TS left-side safeties coming, as well. They were intended for other projects, but I'll try one of them in my SP Compact. I like the standard SP-01 D style ambi safety, but I can confirm that it obviously won't fit the SP Compact because the frame walls on the SP Compact are too thick. Not digging the thin safety in the SP Compact, and I think the left-side TS safety will be an upgrade despite the fact that it looks like it may hang over the raised frame ledge along the bottom edge of the safety. The grips I am using should keep this from being an issue, though.
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I also don't like how far the slide lock lever (slide stop) sticks out on the right side of the frame. The frame is chamfered for a much shorter piece...
I noticed this exact same thing. So, while examining and comparing the safeties between by SP-01 Compact and my Custom Tactical Sport, I noticed that the slide stops of the SP Compact and TS looked identical. I tried them in the opposite guns, and they are in fact identical. The SP Compact is wearing a Tactical Sport slide stop.
My though is that a slide stop from a standard alloy P-01 may work even better for this SP Compact gun. It would give even better access to the slide stop, and would holster better since I assume the slightly shorter P-01 slide stop will not protrude as far out the other side of the frame.
This brings me to two questions, since I do not have a P-01 here to borrow the slide stop from.....:
1) Will the P-01 slide stop fit and function correctly in the steel frame SP Compact, while also not protruding as far out the other side of the frame ? (which I assume it will), and, if so......
2) Since the P-01 slide stop has a longer actuating lever, will the longer P-01 slide stop's lever be just short enough to clear the front of the Tactical Sport safety I am planning to install on the left side of my SP Compact.......?
Inquiring minds have to know. I'm thinking my last two mods to my SP Compact will be a P-01 slide stop and a Tactical Sport left safety, if they fit properly and play well together.....
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I also don't like how far the slide lock lever (slide stop) sticks out on the right side of the frame. The frame is chamfered for a much shorter piece...
I noticed this exact same thing. So, while examining and comparing the safeties between by SP-01 Compact and my Custom Tactical Sport, I noticed that the slide stops of the SP Compact and TS looked identical. I tried them in the opposite guns, and they are in fact identical. The SP Compact is wearing a Tactical Sport slide stop.
My though is that a slide stop from a standard alloy P-01 may work even better for this SP Compact gun. It would give even better access to the slide stop, and would holster better since I assume the slightly shorter P-01 slide stop will not protrude as far out the other side of the frame.
This brings me to two questions, since I do not have a P-01 here to borrow the slide stop from.....:
1) Will the P-01 slide stop fit and function correctly in the steel frame SP Compact, while also not protruding as far out the other side of the frame ? (which I assume it will), and, if so......
2) Since the P-01 slide stop has a longer actuating lever, will the longer P-01 slide stop's lever be just short enough to clear the front of the Tactical Sport safety I am planning to install on the left side of my SP Compact.......?
Inquiring minds have to know. I'm thinking my last two mods to my SP Compact will be a P-01 slide stop and a Tactical Sport left safety, if they fit properly and play well together.....
Great find! I'd like to know the answer too!
PS I threw my Tactical Sport safety in and here's the thread for it.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=84002.0
While I'm not in love with it hanging over the ledge on the frame ( I could fix that with my belt sander...) I love how much lore functional it is! But I do want to see if someone tried a shadow safety, if they have the ability to fit. This does hang low and almost get in the way of my left hand. But I don't have the lore tactical shooting stance with shoulders as high and left hand rolled as far up and forward. (not bagging that, it just may get the left hand on the safety). Anyways, hope this helps others and hope to hear more testing.
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Second date with my SP-01 Compact.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=84001.0
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PS I threw my Tactical Sport safety in and here's the thread for it.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=84002.0
While I'm not in love with it hanging over the ledge on the frame ( I could fix that with my belt sander...) I love how much lore functional it is! But I do want to see if someone tried a shadow safety, if they have the ability to fit.
I have looked at a few different safeties out of my various CZs. It looks like the ambi Tactical Sport safety is the only unit that will fit, because the frame wall thickness on the SP Compact is the same as on the TS, and the resulting location of the sear lug on the pivot shaft of the TS safety puts the sear lug directly under the sear contact arm where it belongs. I do not know of any other widebody ambi safety assembly that is also designed for thick frame walls.
I'm really looking forward to installing the TS left-side safety on the SP Compact. My grips come up high with an outward swell toward the top, so the bottom of the TS safety dipping below the extended side of the SP Compact's widebody frame should not be a problem with my setup.
I also tried a Shadow extended slide stop just to check how far back the lever would go in relation to the safety. I actually liked the more forward location of the stock slide release along with the protruding TS safety, so I will be leaving the stock slide stop and just installing the TS safety left side.
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I swapped out the P01 slide stop into the SP01 Compact with no problems. I ordered a Rami slide stop that is supposed to fit the Shadow to see if it fits. When you go to the CZ website to buy a slide stop they only sell one for all the compacts - fits P01, PCR, and 75 compacts, 9mm and 40. I would have bought one, but I wanted to be sure I was getting the same style that my P01 had. Then I stumbled onto the Rami slide stop that some apparently use on their Shadows. I'm thinking that most CZ slide stops are interchangeable.
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This will be interesting to see how these slide stops fit and how you all like them. The more I dry fire the more I like the safety. Gonna take this out tomorrow and feed it another 100 or so rounds. Have the moly grease on it now. Not expecting anything out of the ordinary now, just lots of pure shooting enjoyment!
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Just ran another 300 rounds through my SP01 Compact - no problems whatsoever. I ran 250 147gr RN through and another 50 rounds of 147gr. FM XTP JHP as well. I think she's good to go for EDC.
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Just ran another 300 rounds through my SP01 Compact - no problems whatsoever. I ran 250 147gr RN through and another 50 rounds of 147gr. FM XTP JHP as well. I think she's good to go for EDC.
Dang, I'm jealous! I only got to put another 100 rounds through mine today. Had the 13 lb hammer spring in it again and had no issues with S&B primers. Anyone planning to try testing groups and then installing the CGW bushing?
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I'll be shooting two of my compacts tomorrow, this SP Compact being one of them, and depending how the groups go with several different types of ammo, I will consider whether a bushing experiment is warranted at all. I tried a bushing on my Custom Shadow Tac II and it had very little effect, whereas the the CZC accu bushing I had installed on my Shadow T made a huge improvement, cutting groups in half.
If these guns shoot anything like their test targets suggest, I won't need to experiment with bushings. The targets that came with my last two Compacts are some of the best 25m targets I've seen from ANY stock CZ compact. These......
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Nice looking pair. Cool grips.
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Very nice indeed!
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My TS safeties will be here Monday, can't wait to put one of those on the SP Compact.
The 75C on the right will be one of my new EDC's. The grips on it, from the Czech Republic, are very slim, and comfortable against the skin, but they do have a pattern carved into them that provides enough grip for anything but wet hands. They are pretty narrow front to back, as far as panels go, making the whole butt stock feel nice and small, and I much prefer them to the LOK and CZ USA grip panels I've tried on it. Feels vintage and old skool, just how I like it. So I decided quality leather was in order, rather than kydex. I have a High Noon Slide Guard OWB and a UBG Striker IWB on the way for the little 75C....Can't wait to figure out its favorite JHP accuracy load tomorrow morning, then get the holsters sorted and broken in when they arrive, and get this puppy into the carry rotation....!!!
I'll report back what loads the SP Compact preferred, as well. Both guns have the exact same mods and upgrade parts, same internal polishing, same exact spring values, and roughly the same trigger pull weights, so it will be interesting to shoot both of these side by side using the same ammo, and see what the recoil and patterning differences are, if any, with the extra ounces on the front of the SP Compact.....Both guns still have the factory 17lb flat recoil spring, but on a steel guide rod, and I will also be experimenting with recoil spring values to determine what shoots flattest for me, with each gun.
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Just got back from the range. The results from these Compacts were predictable CZ excellence, especially with the upgrades on the guns. Top notch performance, and I am thrilled with both purchases, as usual.
I didn't perceive any difference in recoil between the CZ75C and the SP Compact. I did notice that with the 17 lb spring, I could see the front sight of the SP Compact more quickly for slightly faster follow-up shots, probably due to the slight extra weight bias from the SP Compact's forward-heavy railed frame. With the 20 lb recoil spring, that difference went away mostly. I found that both guns functioned flawlessly with a wide range of standard and +p ammo, with just the stock 17 lb flat recoil spring on stainless guide rods. Hotter +p ammo did not batter the guns, and a heavier recoil spring was not necessary. I had 100% feed, function, and consistent, strong, flawless ejection about 5 to 7 feet away, depending on the load.
Both guns' sights are set up for center hold, rather than 6 o'clock hold or frame hold, which only took a moment to get used to, and the sights were perfectly centered. Both guns will consistently fire a six-shot 1" hole at 15 yards, and a nice 1.25" pattern at 20 yards, slow-fire, when I do my part. These are extremely accurate CZ's, equal to a full sized CZ, and no upgraded barrel bushing is necessary.
I could also consistently dump 10 rounds in about 5 seconds into a 1.5" to 2" ragged pattern at 15 yards, with little effort, using just the stock sights. Recoil is minimal with factory fmj loads, and very manageable with +p hollow points. Both guns performed every bit as well as my full-sized CZ's, and are much faster to clear a holster with.
Both Compacts preferred lighter, faster rounds, and also preferred hotter loads. They performed equally well with economical Fiocchi 115gr fmj, Winchester White Box 115r fmj, and CCI Blazer brass 115gr fmj, shooting them like some finely tuned full-sized target guns will. And both guns' accuracy load for self-defense purposes was the Speer Gold Dot 115 gr hollow point, with Fiocchi's 115 grain extrema Hornady XTP load a close second.
Neither gun particularly liked S&B 124 grain fmj, American Eagle 124 gr fmj, or Fiocchi 147 gr hollow points. It seems the rifling and twist rate of the shorter CZ barrels want a lighter, faster round in order to spin up and stabilize things, if I had to speculate. Groups weren't bad, they just weren't as consistent or tight as with the several 115 grain loads I tried.
Below is typical of what the SP Compact produced at 15 yards, dumping 10 rounds of 115 grain fmj at a pretty good pace using the stock 17lb recoil spring. The range I was at wouldn't tolerate super-fast double and triples so I will test that at the Sportsman's club next week.
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The CZ75C produces similar groups, and this is typical of what it produced at 20 yards at a medium pace. What a joy to shoot!
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To put things into perspective here, after nearly 400 rounds downrange, not a single misfeed, double feed, misfire, fte, light strike, etc. The magazines work perfectly. And the average groups these pistols delivered inside 20 yards all morning, with just about all ammo tried, will fit inside their trigger guard!!! I honestly don't shoot much differently with my costly, tricked-out custom Shadows, at these close self-defense distances. And I doubt I'll be shooting my compacts much out past 25 yards LOL!
I can't recommend these Compacts highly enough, if you are comfortable carrying a steel-frame pistol. I also highly recommend the 13 lb hammer spring, an extended firing pin, and if you have the means, and the skill to install it, a race hammer and disconnect. The double action is totally use-able now, and the single action is perfect to keep you from pulling fliers, without being too light. Reset is short, consistent, predictable and crisp. There is no need to buy a costly custom compact. With a little motivation, a willingness to dabble in some DIY, and a little extra cash for the excellent aftermarket parts now available, you can produce your own Custom Compact for about half the price of what the custom builders are charging.
The only thing I need to do now is install and test the TS safety on the SP Compact, because I found the ultra-slim safety that came on it was nearly useless today, for my purposes.
And then I think I'll sell my blocky, clumsy, sloppy, cheap-feeling, annoying 2015 Glock 26, which took me weeks to sort out, and required several different pricey aftermarket and upgrade parts, just so it would stop flinging burning-hot brass directly into my face at 90mph for three out of every 10 rounds. In short, I hate it, and will be glad to see it go. This has been true of most (several) Glocks I've purchased after 2011, right up through 2016, and I am through with buying any more new Glocks, because they are no longer machined with the correct slide tolerances that they once were, no longer have quality internals, have terrible resale value, and have been just loaded with unpleasant issues. This is the total opposite of my older Gen2 and early Gen3 Glocks, all of which I still have and treasure like my CZ's. I'm no Glock hater, I love all guns, but it is long overdue time to call it like it is nowadays....How would you rather spend YOUR $550 -$650? On a gun that is now deliberately made cheaper than what you pay for it, and is a high risk of performing poorly right out of the box, or on a gun that is far better made than the money you spent on it, and performs beyond your expectations? For the same price....
CZ's, unlike Glock and Sig, just keep getting better and better, offering more and more great new models as well. I'm gonna go clean these puppies, and celebrate the huge win they represent.
And many thanks to Scarlett, whose diligent posts tipped me off to the existence of the SP Compact!!!!
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And many thanks to Scarlett, whose diligent posts tipped me off to the existence of the SP Compact!!!!
Great review and write up! It's nice to hear from shooters who can get more out of the accuracy potential than I can, just to hear what these are capable of. Glad I could of helped out a little and thanks for all you're input!
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Dang good shooting MGSchindel!
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Thanks, Guys. The indoor range is limiting. I'll know a lot more when I run these Compacts through some steel challenge, and through some speed drills, later this week.
I shoot with some pretty hardcore guys. I tested out and proofed EIGHT pistols today, some guns that were newer to me (the compact CZ's, a Jericho 941/Baby Eagle/CZ Clone), but mostly problematic Glocks that I have had to put lots of mods, smithing and parts into, just to get or keep running correctly.....It took the whole morning and an awful lot of rounds....hundreds, in fact....and left me with a heck of a cleanup job! O0 Strip, clean, re-lube, soak and scrub the barrels in Hoppes 9, re-lube with synthetic grease, and reassemble....took a while...
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The surprise of the morning was this Glock 34 Gen4 that was initially shooting 4" left, 3" low, wouldn't feed more than three rounds in a row without a stovepipe, wouldn't eject unless it was into my eyes or forehead, had regular light strikes, and was turning horrible groups. After totally gutting it and replacing every spring, every single internal part with tool steel parts, changing the ejector, replacing and custom-cutting the extractor, changing the extractor plunger assembly, modifying the extractor channel in the slide, modifying the slide lock, changing and modifying the recoil assembly, replacing all the trigger parts and modifying and polishing them, re-cutting the crown on the barrel, etc etc etc....It is now a tack driver, and turned in the sickest group of the day at 15 yards slow-fire, 8 rounds into under 3/4"....Granted it has a pretty long sight radius. But it is FINALLY running flawlessly. What a misery and countless hours to get it there!!!!!!!!!!! Took nearly a year of experimenting and tweaking, on and off...I initially bought it last year to shoot in local competition, thinking I could just leave it stock and have an easy competition gun ready to run right out of the box, how WRONG I was!! Never got to use it once. Now I view it as a total paperweight, a curiosity piece. I'll NEVER trust it, even though it is now running like a top and is vicious accurate. Who knows for how long, though....
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Why do I digress and mention all this? I've nearly thrown this G34 in the lake and left it there, a few times over the last year, but it has finally paid off. And like I said, I'll never again buy a new Glock LOL!! Ever. SOOOOOO out of spec and horribly made, ALL the new ones I've bought: a G31sf that was un-repairable - so out of spec if could not feed from its own magazines; the above totally-whack G34; a G17TB and G19TB I bought to use with my suppressors, that both had tons of fte, ejection problems, and most of the brass to my face; and a G26 with a host of similar issues to the G34 - ftf, fte, brass to the face, a broken firing pin tip, light strikes, fliers, ungh!!!!!!!!! Frankly, with all the frustrations, you couldn't GIVE me a new production Glock at this point. I consider them to be at the bottom rung, whereas my old Glocks were somewhere at the top of the "reliability and function food chain". Thousands of folks are being told they must be using bad ammo, or are limp-wristing, or don't know how to operate the gun....every excuse in the book...or they don't shoot their gun often enough or well enough to know that it isn't even running correctly, and worse yet, most users just accept the brass to their faces, the jams, the sad extraction, the poor accuracy, point of aim not being point of impact, on and on, as a new way of life for Glock. Why accept ANY of that? Because the guns are plastic, and are "only" $500-$600, so it is deemed acceptable??
But CZ products on the other hand? These Compacts are just another awesome example of buying a brand new production CZ, sight-unseen, over the internet no less (!), throwing on a few simple upgrades in less than 1/2 hour just to personalize things, and getting flawless performance, right from the go, at incredibly reasonable prices!!!!!!!! No headaches, total reliability, excellent accuracy...Just buy it and shoot it. I've NEVER had a CZ with an out-of-spec slide, breech face, or extractor cut. I can't accurately estimate anymore the many thousands of trouble-free rounds I've put through my CZ's over the last 25 years. I NEVER hesitate to buy a CZ product, and will never do so unless I see things take a very wrong direction, which is highly unlikely...CZ's products and production have just been so consistent, for decades, unlike any other gun maker I can think of, most of whom have REALLY gone downhill in the last five to ten years.....using cheaper and cheaper metal and fabrication processes, using toolings and equipment way too long for way too many units until the result no longer functions as it should....
If you're on the fence about a CZ compact, especially the super-cool limited-production SP Compact, don't hesitate to buy one!!! I shoot and carry lots of different guns, but my new SP Compact is now serving as a HD gun with a tac light on it, starting tonight, as a backup to my suppressed Sig. And my CZ75C will be my new EDC as soon as my holsters get here. WIN WIN WIN. CZ's were the first guns I ever bought and will be the last guns I ever sell.
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I picked up my CZ SP01 from the transferring dealer today. I was happy to see rubber magazine base pads. The PCR I purchased a while back did not have these. Given I paid about the same amount, this was pleasant surprise.
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Then I put the pull gauge on the trigger to see what I was getting from the factory. The double action was above 12 lbs and the single action averaged 6 lb 3 oz.
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Now she's about to get some Cajun guts and we'll see how that trigger comes down.
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I picked up my CZ SP01 from the transferring dealer today. I was happy to see rubber magazine base pads. The PCR I purchased a while back did not have these. Given I paid about the same amount, this was pleasant surprise.
Now she's about to get some Cajun guts and we'll see how that trigger comes down.
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Dang, she's getting loaded!
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That's the way to do it O0 Is there a type 2 disco in the mix?
It's nice to see the CZ 85 style trigger in there! I still don't know how some of you guys are shooting fast with those danged factory "recurve" triggers! From a draw, I can't get proper leverage for an accurate, clean DA first pull. And I can't be nearly as accurate with them at speed in SA for follow-up shots. Worse yet, they pinch the heck out of my finger in rapid-fire, getting a tiny bit of my fingerpad skin caught behind the trigger and pinching it against the grip frame. People think they are experiencing "trigger slap", but its actually a pinch in most cases!
Once you try an 85 or 97 style trigger, I'll bet ya won't look back. And once the lighter mainspring is in place, the slightly longer DA reach really isn't an issue like it can be with a heavy mainspring. A CZ85 or 97 style trigger is mandatory for me and is one of my favorite mods to any CZ not already equipped with one. On a carry piece or race gun, I don't even feel like I have proper control of the gun until the right trigger for me is in place.
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That's the way to do it O0 Is there a type 2 disco in the mix?
It's nice to see the CZ 85 style trigger in there! I still don't know how some of you guys are shooting fast with those danged factory "recurve" triggers! From a draw, I can't get proper leverage for an accurate, clean DA first pull. And I can't be nearly as accurate with them at speed in SA for follow-up shots. Worse yet, they pinch the heck out of my finger in rapid-fire, getting a tiny bit of my fingerpad skin caught behind the trigger and pinching it against the grip frame. People think they are experiencing "trigger slap", but its actually a pinch in most cases!
Once you try an 85 or 97 style trigger, I'll bet ya won't look back. And once the lighter mainspring is in place, the slightly longer DA reach really isn't an issue like it can be with a heavy mainspring. A CZ85 or 97 style trigger is mandatory for me and is one of my favorite mods to any CZ not already equipped with one. On a carry piece or race gun, I don't even feel like I have proper control of the gun until the right trigger for me is in place.
I had a disconnector, but for the life of me I can't find it. I usually lose a lifter spring or detent spring now and again but this is a first. All I can guess is that I sent it back to Cajun or my 17 mo. old son got ahold of it and he "organized" it somewhere like a shoe. Oh well, another order to the Cajun.
Yes, I replace all my triggers now with the old 85 or 97 style. To be honest, I don't like the stop screw on a defense gun and the 97 trigger fits the bill. I might also put the SP-01 slide release on here too. I have a couple spares and it feels good right now.
Now to make the decision to wait for another disconnector or put it back with the stock one and shoot it and retrofit later.
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I picked up my CZ SP01 from the transferring dealer today. I was happy to see rubber magazine base pads. The PCR I purchased a while back did not have these. Given I paid about the same amount, this was pleasant surprise.
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Then I put the pull gauge on the trigger to see what I was getting from the factory. The double action was above 12 lbs and the single action averaged 6 lb 3 oz.
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Now she's about to get some Cajun guts and we'll see how that trigger comes down.
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Very nice batch of parts. I'm very interested in the TruGlo sights. They were on my bucket list of improvements but I decided they might be to big fot the gun. Please post pics after you get them installed. Thanks, Jim
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To be honest, I don't like the stop screw on a defense gun and the 97 trigger fits the bill.
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That's exactly why I put a 97 trigger on my carry and home defense guns. Of course, with the 85 trigger, you can always just leave the overtravel grub screw out. That's how some of the CZ Custom guys tell me they run theirs. They don't want the over-travel screw coming loose in a competition or a defensive situation and either trashing their sear or even totally blocking them from firing the gun, so they just take out the grub screw. I actually like the extra leverage and trigger control that the slightly thicker 97 trigger provides. Most folks don't know that on most CZ 75B's from about 1994 through the early 2000's (until they switched to the dreaded recurve trigger somewhere around 2004), the CZ75B's and CZ 97B's ALL used to come with the same CZ 97 contour trigger!
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Very nice batch of parts. I'm very interested in the TruGlo sights. They were on my bucket list of improvements but I decided they might be to big fot the gun. Please post pics after you get them installed. Thanks, Jim
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Very nice batch of parts. I'm very interested in the TruGlo sights. They were on my bucket list of improvements but I decided they might be to big fot the gun. Please post pics after you get them installed. Thanks, Jim
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Very nice. Thanks for the pics that helps a lot. Jim
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I just 'visited' mine at my FFL and grabbed the paperwork to start the ridiculous NY process of actually being able to take the gun home. I had to give up the mags (giving to a LEO in my local shooting club) so have 10 rounders on order already. Hope to get it all in by the time I can take the gun home. Very excited!
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I just 'visited' mine at my FFL and grabbed the paperwork to start the ridiculous NY process of actually being able to take the gun home. I had to give up the mags (giving to a LEO in my local shooting club) so have 10 rounders on order already. Hope to get it all in by the time I can take the gun home. Very excited!
Ugh that sounds like a rotten process...
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I just 'visited' mine at my FFL and grabbed the paperwork to start the ridiculous NY process of actually being able to take the gun home. I had to give up the mags (giving to a LEO in my local shooting club) so have 10 rounders on order already. Hope to get it all in by the time I can take the gun home. Very excited!
Ugh that sounds like a rotten process...
Yes it is... have to go the the dealer to get paperwork, bring it to the police headquarters, fill out more paperwork there and then have to bring it back to the dealer. Give him the PD paperwork and then fill out the 4473 at the dealer. Then I get the gun, to bring back to the PD so they can inspect it and put it on the back of my pistol license then finally get to take it home.... ridiculous.
Either way, going to pick up the gun tomorrow to bring it back to the PD. At least I was able to get one and will enjoy the time at the range with it!
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So glad I don't live in a state like that!
A friend of mine just ordered one yesterday. I'll help with some basic polishing and go shoot with him. Sample size of 2 for me!
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I just 'visited' mine at my FFL and grabbed the paperwork to start the ridiculous NY process of actually being able to take the gun home. I had to give up the mags (giving to a LEO in my local shooting club) so have 10 rounders on order already. Hope to get it all in by the time I can take the gun home. Very excited!
That's terrible. I'm very happy here in AZ. When the gun arrives at my FFL it's a 15 minute process and you're out the door with you firearm. Good Luck !!!
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Went shooting with a friend and his wife last weekend. She likes shooting, but has always shot my friends small carry guns and her Ruger LCP. She shot my SP-01 and SP-01 Compact and seemed to enjoy them. I saw my friend today and he said she more or less told him that after shooting my CZ's she realized that she has never actually had fun shooting all those snappy little pistols. She liked them so much she told my friend she wants to do a training course now and hinted she wanted it to be with a real pistol.
So while we were talking he had me send the link for the SP-01 Compact and he ordered her one as a surprise for Christmas (to go with a training class he is going to sign them both up for). That's now two more SP-01 Compacts gone from the pool of what remains because of friends trying mine. I am going to stop letting people shoot this little pistol until I get enough to buy a second for myself... O0
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I just 'visited' mine at my FFL and grabbed the paperwork to start the ridiculous NY process of actually being able to take the gun home. I had to give up the mags (giving to a LEO in my local shooting club) so have 10 rounders on order already. Hope to get it all in by the time I can take the gun home. Very excited!
Ugh that sounds like a rotten process...
Yes it is... have to go the the dealer to get paperwork, bring it to the police headquarters, fill out more paperwork there and then have to bring it back to the dealer. Give him the PD paperwork and then fill out the 4473 at the dealer. Then I get the gun, to bring back to the PD so they can inspect it and put it on the back of my pistol license then finally get to take it home.... ridiculous.
Either way, going to pick up the gun tomorrow to bring it back to the PD. At least I was able to get one and will enjoy the time at the range with it!
Don't know which county you are in, but years ago, when Monroe County (Rochester) had a Republican County Executive, the County Clerk's office would set up a satellite branch at the Monroe County gun shows. That way purchasers could add a new handgun to their Pistol Permit without leaving the show. (I moved out of NY over 25 years ago)
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So is the consensus to order from Mr Gun dealer or the other shop?
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So is the consensus to order from Mr Gun dealer or the other shop?
That's still the best deal. They just sent the ship confirmation to my friend who ordered one and it took 3 days. Just make sure they have the license info for your ffl. There are other dealers so it's up to you.
I emailed Kentucky Gun Co. To see If they would price match and they never responded.
http://www.mrgundealer.com/product.cz-usa-75-compact-9mm-rail-steel-frame-manual-safe-39
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Don't know which county you are in, but years ago, when Monroe County (Rochester) had a Republican County Executive, the County Clerk's office would set up a satellite branch at the Monroe County gun shows. That way purchasers could add a new handgun to their Pistol Permit without leaving the show. (I moved out of NY over 25 years ago)
Suffolk. Not much going to help short of moving one day.
Got to fire a couple hundred rounds yesterday. Absolutely love the pistol! Two of my buddies were there also, think at least one of them is purchasing his own.
My only issue is the safety is a bit too flat. I was not sweeping it off completely all the time. I saw someone here was bale to fit a fatter one on. Will look into that if I can't train myself to use the current one without fail.
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Got to fire a couple hundred rounds yesterday. Absolutely love the pistol! Two of my buddies were there also, think at least one of them is purchasing his own.
My only issue is the safety is a bit too flat. I was not sweeping it off completely all the time. I saw someone here was bale to fit a fatter one on. Will look into that if I can't train myself to use the current one without fail.
Dang it! There needs to be a rule that we all can't let our friends shoot these, they're more contagious than cold sores!
Yeah, the tactical sport safety works. It's totally worth it if you're not getting the safety easily. There's the link where a few of us tried them out.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=84002.0
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I'm glad I stumbled across this thread. I've previously owned a P-01 and the regular Compact 75 and have moved on from both. I like my steel guns all steel so that's why the P-01 went. I thought I'd love the Compact but after a couple of boxes of ammo I wasn't liking how the down swept beaver tail dug into the webbing of my hand so off it went
I was in a LGS today and saw a used P-01 for sale and thought I'd give it another chance. The P-01 seems to have become rare lately so I logged into this forum to see if anyone else was noticing this as well.
Then I saw this thread. An all steel framed compact with the beavertail of my SP-01!
Only thing better would it to have a decocker as that's my preference but I'll survive with the safety
I'll probably place an order later this afternoon [emoji106]
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I'm strongly thinking of picking up one of these for CC. I currently do not have a CC pistol but I have shot and love CZ pistols. How is the weight on these? Is it noticeably more than the P01? Would this conceal well
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I'm strongly thinking of picking up one of these for CC. I currently do not have a CC pistol but I have shot and love CZ pistols. How is the weight on these? Is it noticeably more than the P01? Would this conceal well
I noticed quite a bit of difference between my Compact and P-01. Not a deal breaker but noticeable.
The dividend is that the steel gun soaks up more recoil than the alloy frame
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I'm strongly thinking of picking up one of these for CC. I currently do not have a CC pistol but I have shot and love CZ pistols. How is the weight on these? Is it noticeably more than the P01? Would this conceal well
While I've joked about getting to stop people from buying these I'm being totally honest. It is heavier than my all steel classic 75 Compact (which is heavier than the P-01). I carry this new pistol now, but I carry in a man satchel (daddy diaper bag sort of thing), so I don't mind the weight. You'll love the pistol, but just know that it is heavy and you have to be willing to carry the weight if it is going to fill that role for you...
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I'm curious as well. Can anyone weigh it and maybe a P-01 and/or other czs for comparison?
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Well I purchased one of these rare guns. Then purchased a used Kadet adapter for it also. What a great setup. SP-01 compact .22
Shot about 300 round with it today, what a pleasure. Very accurate grouping also. Thank you to everyone on this thread for the heads up! :)
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I'm curious as well. Can anyone weigh it and maybe a P-01 and/or other czs for comparison?
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I don't have anything to weigh it with... The classic Compact is 32.8 Oz and the full size SP-01 is 40.7 Oz so it's somewhere in between. If I find something at my in-laws to weigh them with I will post the info.
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Well I'm about to pull the proverbial trigger and place my order with Buds. I've had good luck with them in the past and they already have my FFLs credentials on file I believe so one less thing to do
Thanks or no thanks really...I needed to get another gun right now like.......[emoji849]
Always just "one" more gun......lol
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Well I'm about to pull the proverbial trigger and place my order with Buds. I've had good luck with them in the past and they already have my FFLs credentials on file I believe so one less thing to do
Thanks or no thanks really...I needed to get another gun right now like.......[emoji849]
Always just "one" more gun......lol
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Congratulations! You can always send it to me if you don't like it.
Took my aunt out shooting this afternoon. She is learning and has a S&W Shield for concealed carry. We practiced and I was helping her, then I took out the SP-01 Compact. She asked to try it, and I obliged. She shot it and turns to me with wide eyes, "What is this?!" I explained and she asked where she gets one. I explain and she is buying one tonight. I tried to hide it, but couldn't help getting it out. Dang it!
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I was reading earlier in the thread and someone had mentioned that they found a decocker version of this pistol...#99003?
I see that Bud's has this pistol but I'm confused....the description says steel frame but in the comments people are saying the description is wrong...it is an alloy frame
Other websites aren't really helpful as the also contradict themselves saying alloy in description but steel in title and vice versa....what is the verdict on a decocker version of the "SP-01" Compact?
Is there truly one available and if so is it the 99003?
The pics online look like a P-01 with CZ-75 Markings on it
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I was reading earlier in the thread and someone had mentioned that they found a decocker version of this pistol...#99003?
I see that Bud's has this pistol but I'm confused....the description says steel frame but in the comments people are saying the description is wrong...it is an alloy frame
Other websites aren't really helpful as the also contradict themselves saying alloy in description but steel in title and vice versa....what is the verdict on a decocker version of the "SP-01" Compact?
Is there truly one available and if so is it the 99003?
The pics online look like a P-01 with CZ-75 Markings on it
I'd call CZ on Monday to be safe...
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I think DL Supplies out of Rhode Island answered my question.....I went to Gunbroker ans typed in 99003 and it pulled up about 10 entries...most if not all say alloy frame.
DL's description nailed it I think
RECEIVED IN TEN CZ 75D COMPACT WITH DECOCKER AND RAIL 9MM PISTOLS NEW IN BOX SPECIAL MAKE UP WITH ILLUMINATING NIGHT SIGHTS INCLUDED AT THIS LOW PRICE. GUNS ARE NEW IN BOX AND SHIP WITH TWO 14 ROUND MAGS. PLEASE CALL STORE WITH QUESTIONS BEFORE BIDDING 401-738-1889 WE DO NOT CHARGE FOR USING A CREDIT CARD. THIS IS IDENTICAL TO THE CZ PO1 91199 BUT WITH A CZ COMPACT 75 D SLIDE.
But still leads me to the question....is there an identical Compact to the one everyone here is buying that comes with a decock vs a safety? And I mean exact from the beavertail (huge selling point for me) to the sights, trigger etc.
I prefer a decocker but if it means a beavertail like the P-01 vs the SP-01 I'll stick with the safety ;)
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I think DL Supplies out of Rhode Island answered my question.....I went to Gunbroker ans typed in 99003 and it pulled up about 10 entries...most if not all say alloy frame.
DL's description nailed it I think
RECEIVED IN TEN CZ 75D COMPACT WITH DECOCKER AND RAIL 9MM PISTOLS NEW IN BOX SPECIAL MAKE UP WITH ILLUMINATING NIGHT SIGHTS INCLUDED AT THIS LOW PRICE. GUNS ARE NEW IN BOX AND SHIP WITH TWO 14 ROUND MAGS. PLEASE CALL STORE WITH QUESTIONS BEFORE BIDDING 401-738-1889 WE DO NOT CHARGE FOR USING A CREDIT CARD. THIS IS IDENTICAL TO THE CZ PO1 91199 BUT WITH A CZ COMPACT 75 D SLIDE.
But still leads me to the question....is there an identical Compact to the one everyone here is buying that comes with a decock vs a safety? And I mean exact from the beavertail (huge selling point for me) to the sights, trigger etc.
I prefer a decocker but if it means a beavertail like the P-01 vs the SP-01 I'll stick with the safety ;)
If 99003 is the P-01 then that would likely mean there isn't a decocker version... With only 500 made as a special order if all are safety models then there won't be a decocker version. You still can call CZ come Monday if you want to be totally sure.
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In Post #67 the poster says he found a distributor that has the decocker version and he got a few of them. After I reread it though he says the description says steel frames so maybe he was looking at something similar that I was
Perhaps if he is following this thread he can chime in on if he did receive a steel framed "SP-01 Compact Tactical"
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Thanks to this thread I was able to figure out which distributor they went to, and snatched up a few. There is a decocker model as well that isn't a P01, and and the description on a couple sites says steel frame, so a SP01 Tactical Compact basically. Got a few of those too 8)
One of them is going to get stripped, polished, hot blued, get a nice set of wood stocks, and be on my hip on my wedding day. :D
Drew5337, could you let us know if the decocker models ended up being all steel and if so where you got them? Thanks for helping out!
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Dang it! There needs to be a rule that we all can't let our friends shoot these, they're more contagious than cold sores!
Yeah, the tactical sport safety works. It's totally worth it if you're not getting the safety easily. There's the link where a few of us tried them out.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=84002.0
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LOL, yes. Like you , I hope to pick up a second one in the next few months (before they all dry up).
Also, thanks for the link.
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LOL, yes. Like you , I hope to pick up a second one in the next few months (before they all dry up).
Also, thanks for the link.
You're most welcome!
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My understanding with the 99003 (I asked CZ about these 3 yrs ago, I think it was): it is a variant of the P-01 with night sights as standard. That's the only difference. The ones that say Compact are the same. My memory can be foggy but they told me at the time that in Europe (and some other markets) they don't say P-01, they say Compact D (I think it is). At one point there was so much demand here that they started importing those here to North America so that they could help fill demand. That's the way it was explained to me. I believe Grabagun regularly gets in the 99003. I've had one on my Wishlist for a while (and they got them in stock several times).
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Took my aunt out shooting this afternoon. I took out the SP-01 Compact. She asked to try it, and I obliged. She shot it and turns to me with wide eyes, "What is this?!" I explained and she asked where she gets one. I explain and she is buying one tonight. I tried to hide it, but couldn't help getting it out. Dang it!
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Same thing sorta just happened to me. Sorry Scarlett Pistol, but I took my good buddy to the Stuart Shooting Range on Saturday to try out a Cajunized CZ97B against a Les Baer 45 and a Sig P220 SS Elite. He told me he was in the market for a 45 ACP for home defense. Well, he shot the three 45ACP guns, and then he spied my Cajunized SP Compact. Of course, he shot it, held it in his hands, shot it some more, considered the fitment, the excellent accuracy, the very comfortable beavertail, and the recoil-eating heft....and then he went directly home and ordered one for himself!!!! He went to the range try out 45's, and wound up with a new 9mm CZ carry piece LOL!!! Go figure.....This little SP Compact has irresistible charisma and a winning set of features, for the right audience....It's like moths to the flame.....CZ probably ought to add this gun to their regular catalog, and also add a steel variant with the decocker as well.....
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Same thing sorta just happened to me. Sorry Scarlett Pistol, but I took my good buddy to the Stuart Shooting Range on Saturday to try out a Cajunized CZ97B against a Les Baer 45 and a Sig P220 SS Elite. He told me he was in the market for a 45 ACP for home defense. Well, he shot the three 45ACP guns, and then he spied my Cajunized SP Compact. Of course, he shot it, held it in his hands, shot it some more, considered the fitment, the excellent accuracy, the very comfortable beavertail, and the recoil-eating heft....and then he went directly home and ordered one for himself!!!! He went to the range try out 45's, and wound up with a new 9mm CZ carry piece LOL!!! Go figure.....This little SP Compact has irresistible charisma and a winning set of features, for the right audience....It's like moths to the flame.....CZ probably ought to add this gun to their regular catalog, and also add a steel variant with the decocker as well.....
Haha I went with my friend to pick up his this afternoon and the gentleman who runs the little FFL was extremely interested. He has held other CZ's but this one caught his attention. Luckily it wasn't Cajunized yet otherwise we'd of lost another!!
BTW how'd your 97 hold up in that comparison?
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Same thing sorta just happened to me. Sorry Scarlett Pistol, but I took my good buddy to the Stuart Shooting Range on Saturday to try out a Cajunized CZ97B against a Les Baer 45 and a Sig P220 SS Elite. He told me he was in the market for a 45 ACP for home defense. Well, he shot the three 45ACP guns, and then he spied my Cajunized SP Compact. Of course, he shot it, held it in his hands, shot it some more, considered the fitment, the excellent accuracy, the very comfortable beavertail, and the recoil-eating heft....and then he went directly home and ordered one for himself!!!! He went to the range try out 45's, and wound up with a new 9mm CZ carry piece LOL!!! Go figure.....This little SP Compact has irresistible charisma and a winning set of features, for the right audience....It's like moths to the flame.....CZ probably ought to add this gun to their regular catalog, and also add a steel variant with the decocker as well.....
Haha I went with my friend to pick up his this afternoon and the gentleman who runs the little FFL was extremely interested. He has held other CZ's but this one caught his attention. Luckily it wasn't Cajunized yet otherwise we'd of lost another!!
BTW how'd your 97 hold up in that comparison?
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Good question Scarlett. I'm also very interested in the 97B. I already have the new SP-01 compact.
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I can't speak for the 97B but the 97BD is a gem to shoot. My Sig P220 Scorpion Elite has not seen the outside of the safe since the 97BD arrived [emoji106]
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Could someone do me a favor and throw one of these on a postal scale (preferable both with and without an empty mag)? I'm almost positive the advertised weight is incorrect, as it's the exact same as the standard compact.
Also, if anyone is lucky enough to own one if these and a P01, I would love to know the frame width above the grip for both.
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It's all apples n oranges n bananas. The Les Baer has blacked-out adjustable LPA target sights, a single stack 8 round magazine, being very flat and thin traditional 1911, with a killer 2.5lb single action only trigger, no tac rail, and has a hand-fitted barrel/link, yielding 1/5" groups at 50 yards from a rest. It is a total laser beam, and shoots exactly where you point it every time. Frame-to-slide fit is ultra-tight, no play. But to me, although an amazing target gun, and very sleek, the 1911 platform is simply outdated by today's functional standards, in all honesty, and is not the gun I would choose for home defense or combat. More felt recoil than the CZ or Sig, too. A phenomenal target or range gun.
My Sig P220 all-Stainless is a German mfg gun, and is ridiculously tight for a production gun. Being an older gun, it is all high-grade tool-steel guts inside, before they switched to MIM junk. It's quite heavy since the frame is also stainless steel. It is nearly as easy to shoot accurately as the Les Baer at distances under 20 yards. It is heavier than the 1911, has very little recoil, and is the easiest of the three to rapid-fire. It has a great tactical rail you can mount a light on for home defense, along with its very good stock tall, blocky night sights that are very easy to pick up on, and has a decocker. It does have a single stack magazine limiting it to 8 rounds if you want the magazine to fit flush, but I also have factory 10 rounders that stick down about 1". It is da/sa, and I have the SA down to about 3.5 lbs clean, no creep. DA is a little heavy but very smooth, about 9 lbs, stacks a little at the end of its travel. This gun is stone reliable, ejects like a mad man, and would eat cigar butts and sea weed if I shoved 'em in the magazine along with the bullets. It's a workhorse and a very functional, precision machine. It doesn't care what ammo you feed through it, and has never once bobbled.
The CZ 97B Cajunized has a slightly nicer trigger than the Sig, but even with the Cajun barrel bushing, it is not as accurate as the other two guns in this particular peer group. Its sights are still stock, and could use a little improvement. It does hold two extra rounds in its double stack magazine but its grip is also the largest of the three by a big margin. Has a little more felt recoil than the Sig, but less than the Les 1911. Of course it's DA/SA, with the SA down around 3lbs and the DA at about 8 lbs. It lacks a rail for tactical applications, and its biggest enemy is its sheer bulk and huge grip circumference, even with slim Nils grip panels on it. It gets an extra point of "cool factor" because it is high glossy blued unit!
In all, even though CZ's are my favorite 9mm platform, I have to give the nod to the older german Sig P220 SS in this 45acp group. Refinement, features, function, style, finish, ergonomics, accuracy, reliability, use-ability, strength, simplicity.....I can find a few areas for improvement for upgrade in the big bulky CZ, and the 1911 is just too limited without extra capacity, without a light rail, without night sights or DA, etc etc. But I cannot fault the Sig anywhere. All three feel and run very differently from one another, but if there could only be one 45 in the house ready to roll in the night stand, or in a skirmish, the P220 SS would get that distinction. The only way you could screw up with the Sig in a pressure situation would be forgetting to load it beforehand LOL! Granted, the CZ97 would be my second choice here for defense work, or the range. But taking second place in this company, and 2nd overall in the whole world of 45 acp platforms out there, is no dishonor! I would, however, choose the all-steel CZ97 OVER a traditional Sig P220 with an alloy frame, which I find especially undesirable in a 45acp......
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Could someone do me a favor and throw one of these on a postal scale (preferable both with and without an empty mag)? I'm almost positive the advertised weight is incorrect, as it's the exact same as the standard compact.
Also, if anyone is lucky enough to own one if these and a P01, I would love to know the frame width above the grip for both.
Thanks!
When I get home I'll hang mine from my trigger pull gauge... that's the best I've got for a scale...
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Could someone do me a favor and throw one of these on a postal scale (preferable both with and without an empty mag)? I'm almost positive the advertised weight is incorrect, as it's the exact same as the standard compact.
Also, if anyone is lucky enough to own one if these and a P01, I would love to know the frame width above the grip for both.
Thanks!
When I get home I'll hang mine from my trigger pull gauge... that's the best I've got for a scale...
Ha! Your only scale being a trigger gauge shows how hard core of a gun guy you are. I use mine for all kinds of crap.
I appreciate it!
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Could someone do me a favor and throw one of these on a postal scale (preferable both with and without an empty mag)? I'm almost positive the advertised weight is incorrect, as it's the exact same as the standard compact.
Also, if anyone is lucky enough to own one if these and a P01, I would love to know the frame width above the grip for both.
Thanks!
Without magazine: 2lbs 3.5 oz or 35.5 oz
With magazine: 2lbs 6.4 oz or 38.4 oz
As springerfanatic laughed about my trigger pull gauge being my only scale.... Yeah, yeah, truth is I have another but it's my powder scale and it seems too small. While these seem accurate there was a little variance as I hung the pistol several times. So, I'd say this could be +- 1 Oz... Just to be safe. I don't have the P-01 but we can snag that from the CZ site. Anyways, now we have it, this is one heavy little pistol at 35.5 ounces.
Last preface for those that haven't read the whole thread (it's getting long, couldn't blame ya). Mine has cz thin aluminum grips.
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Haha I went with my friend to pick up his this afternoon and the gentleman who runs the little FFL was extremely interested. He has held other CZ's but this one caught his attention. Luckily it wasn't Cajunized yet otherwise we'd of lost another!!
Luck wasn't on my side... My other friend called my little FFL today to have him send his information to Mr Gun Dealer to process his SP-01 Compact order. They started chatting because the dealer remembered the pistol and mentioned he jumped online and ordered one after I was there picking up the last one.
So... that's
- 1 I ordered
- 1 my first friend ordered
- 1 ordered by my FFL when he felt my friends
- 1 ordered by my second friend
- With 1 to be ordered by my aunt
- Viking499 blames me too
- RNA joins the club
PS - If your wives ask why you got one you can just blame me and you're names will even be on the official list of my victims...
These are the most contagious pistol I have ever seen! WARNING, simple contact is likely to cause purchase, shooting is nearly a guarantee. Handle with caution!!! 1911 fans seem highly susceptible to only handling. People who have mostly shot light and small polymer pistols seem very susceptible to shooting it. As always, remember this warning is really a plea to get the rate of purchase to slow down so I can buy a second for myself, I am being totally selfish, it's true.
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Haha I went with my friend to pick up his this afternoon and the gentleman who runs the little FFL was extremely interested. He has held other CZ's but this one caught his attention. Luckily it wasn't Cajunized yet otherwise we'd of lost another!!
Luck wasn't on my side... My other friend called my little FFL today to have him send his information to Mr Gun Dealer to process his SP-01 Compact order. They started chatting because the dealer remembered the pistol and mentioned he jumped online and ordered one after I was there picking up the last one.
So... that's
- 1 I ordered
- 1 my first friend ordered
- 1 ordered by my FFL when he felt my friends
- 1 ordered by my second friend
- With 1 to be ordered by my aunt
And another for you......
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Same here -- ordered a couple of days ago. Pretty much my grail gun since i shoot my PCR just as well as my SP01, but disagree philosophically with aluminum framed guns. Plus the accessory rail for a weapons light, which i believe all fighting guns should possess. Now to pony up for a CZ Custom hammer and CGW components.
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And another for you......
Same here -- ordered a couple of days ago.
Ahh... Well congratulations!!! With a tinge of jealousy that wasn't me placing those orders, O0. As before, I highly recommend polishing these up and throwing in a Race Hammer or Competition Hammer. Just exquisite!
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Could someone do me a favor and throw one of these on a postal scale (preferable both with and without an empty mag)? I'm almost positive the advertised weight is incorrect, as it's the exact same as the standard compact.
Also, if anyone is lucky enough to own one if these and a P01, I would love to know the frame width above the grip for both.
Thanks!
Without magazine: 2lbs 3.5 oz or 35.5 oz
With magazine: 2lbs 6.4 oz or 38.4 oz
As springerfanatic laughed about my trigger pull gauge being my only scale.... Yeah, yeah, truth is I have another but it's my powder scale and it seems too small. While these seem accurate there was a little variance as I hung the pistol several times. So, I'd say this could be +- 1 Oz... Just to be safe. I don't have the P-01 but we can snag that from the CZ site. Anyways, now we have it, this is one heavy little pistol at 35.5 ounces.
Last preface for those that haven't read the whole thread (it's getting long, couldn't blame ya). Mine has cz thin aluminum grips.
Awesome thanks! I guess I won't be buying one as a primary carry gun... but that doesn't mean I won't be buying one. :)
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Anyone have an idea what one will weigh w/ VZ or Lok grips..? Pick mine up on Monday and will break it down and add the Cajun full-on works and Dawson sights... wondering if it'll make weight (37oz) w/ rubber-base-pad mags to be legit to shoot IDPA CCP with it (if I swap grips too)?
(P.S. I don't really care about the games too much these days, but since I'll carry it, CCP might be the the division I'd shoot it in; though, I'd doubt it'd hold me back in SSP or whatever anyways...)
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Anyone have an idea what one will weigh w/ VZ or Lok grips..? Pick mine up on Monday and will break it down and add the Cajun full-on works and Dawson sights... wondering if it'll make weight (37oz) w/ rubber-base-pad mags to be legit to shoot IDPA CCP with it (if I swap grips too)?
(P.S. I don't really care about the games too much these days, but since I'll carry it, CCP might be the the division I'd shoot it in; though, I'd doubt it'd hold me back in SSP or whatever anyways...)
IDPA has changed the specs on CCP in the Provisional 2017 Rule Book. Weight is now 38 oz plus barrel and height dimensions have changed.
8.2.4.1.3 Barrel length 4 3/8" (4.375", 111.125mm) or less.
8.2.4.1.4 The unloaded firearm with the heaviest magazine must weigh 38.00 oz. (1077.28 grams) or less.
8.2.4.1.5 The firearm with the largest magazine inserted must fit in the IDPA gun test box measuring 7 ?? x 5 3/8? x
1 3/8? (222.3 mm x 136.525 mm x 34mm)
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Sorry if this has been asked and answered. Eighteen pages is a lot to look through. Does the SP-01 Compact have a beveled magwell like the SP-01?
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Sorry if this has been asked and answered. Eighteen pages is a lot to look through. Does the SP-01 Compact have a beveled magwell like the SP-01?
Sorry my pics are too dark to tell. When I get home this evening I will check for ya.
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Sorry if this has been asked and answered. Eighteen pages is a lot to look through. Does the SP-01 Compact have a beveled magwell like the SP-01?
The magwell is beveled on mine.
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Thanks, rhart.
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Anyone have an idea what one will weigh w/ VZ or Lok grips..? Pick mine up on Monday and will break it down and add the Cajun full-on works and Dawson sights... wondering if it'll make weight (37oz) w/ rubber-base-pad mags to be legit to shoot IDPA CCP with it (if I swap grips too)?
(P.S. I don't really care about the games too much these days, but since I'll carry it, CCP might be the the division I'd shoot it in; though, I'd doubt it'd hold me back in SSP or whatever anyways...)
IDPA has changed the specs on CCP in the Provisional 2017 Rule Book. Weight is now 38 oz plus barrel and height dimensions have changed.
8.2.4.1.3 Barrel length 4 3/8" (4.375", 111.125mm) or less.
8.2.4.1.4 The unloaded firearm with the heaviest magazine must weigh 38.00 oz. (1077.28 grams) or less.
8.2.4.1.5 The firearm with the largest magazine inserted must fit in the IDPA gun test box measuring 7 ?? x 5 3/8? x
1 3/8? (222.3 mm x 136.525 mm x 34mm)
Thanks!
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Anyone have an idea what one will weigh w/ VZ or Lok grips..? Pick mine up on Monday and will break it down and add the Cajun full-on works and Dawson sights... wondering if it'll make weight (37oz) w/ rubber-base-pad mags to be legit to shoot IDPA CCP with it (if I swap grips too)?
(P.S. I don't really care about the games too much these days, but since I'll carry it, CCP might be the the division I'd shoot it in; though, I'd doubt it'd hold me back in SSP or whatever anyways...)
IDPA has changed the specs on CCP in the Provisional 2017 Rule Book. Weight is now 38 oz plus barrel and height dimensions have changed.
8.2.4.1.3 Barrel length 4 3/8" (4.375", 111.125mm) or less.
8.2.4.1.4 The unloaded firearm with the heaviest magazine must weigh 38.00 oz. (1077.28 grams) or less.
8.2.4.1.5 The firearm with the largest magazine inserted must fit in the IDPA gun test box measuring 7 ?? x 5 3/8? x
1 3/8? (222.3 mm x 136.525 mm x 34mm)
Not official until 2017. I got mine today. Weighted it on a postal scale at the gun shop. ( I work there part time.) 38.5 oz with a mag. I have a set of Cool Hand grips ordered for it. Hopefully that will help lower the weight. CZ custom sights and some cajun springs and extended firing pin will be next mod. May swap out the thin safety lever on the left side for a standard style.
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Thanks for verifying that weight for us! And congratulations, hope you enjoy it!
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Anyone have an idea what one will weigh w/ VZ or Lok grips..? Pick mine up on Monday and will break it down and add the Cajun full-on works and Dawson sights... wondering if it'll make weight (37oz) w/ rubber-base-pad mags to be legit to shoot IDPA CCP with it (if I swap grips too)?
(P.S. I don't really care about the games too much these days, but since I'll carry it, CCP might be the the division I'd shoot it in; though, I'd doubt it'd hold me back in SSP or whatever anyways...)
IDPA has changed the specs on CCP in the Provisional 2017 Rule Book. Weight is now 38 oz plus barrel and height dimensions have changed.
8.2.4.1.3 Barrel length 4 3/8" (4.375", 111.125mm) or less.
8.2.4.1.4 The unloaded firearm with the heaviest magazine must weigh 38.00 oz. (1077.28 grams) or less.
8.2.4.1.5 The firearm with the largest magazine inserted must fit in the IDPA gun test box measuring 7 ?? x 5 3/8? x
1 3/8? (222.3 mm x 136.525 mm x 34mm)
Not official until 2017. I got mine today. Weighted it on a postal scale at the gun shop. ( I work there part time.) 38.5 oz with a mag. I have a set of Cool Hand grips ordered for it. Hopefully that will help lower the weight. CZ custom sights and some cajun springs and extended firing pin will be next mod. May swap out the thin safety lever on the left side for a standard style.
Depending on the comments it may not make it into the 2017 rulebook, though honestly who knows at this point. I believe the comment period is still going.
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Anyone have an idea what one will weigh w/ VZ or Lok grips..? Pick mine up on Monday and will break it down and add the Cajun full-on works and Dawson sights... wondering if it'll make weight (37oz) w/ rubber-base-pad mags to be legit to shoot IDPA CCP with it (if I swap grips too)?
(P.S. I don't really care about the games too much these days, but since I'll carry it, CCP might be the the division I'd shoot it in; though, I'd doubt it'd hold me back in SSP or whatever anyways...)
IDPA has changed the specs on CCP in the Provisional 2017 Rule Book. Weight is now 38 oz plus barrel and height dimensions have changed.
8.2.4.1.3 Barrel length 4 3/8" (4.375", 111.125mm) or less.
8.2.4.1.4 The unloaded firearm with the heaviest magazine must weigh 38.00 oz. (1077.28 grams) or less.
8.2.4.1.5 The firearm with the largest magazine inserted must fit in the IDPA gun test box measuring 7 ?? x 5 3/8? x
1 3/8? (222.3 mm x 136.525 mm x 34mm)
Not official until 2017. I got mine today. Weighted it on a postal scale at the gun shop. ( I work there part time.) 38.5 oz with a mag. I have a set of Cool Hand grips ordered for it. Hopefully that will help lower the weight. CZ custom sights and some cajun springs and extended firing pin will be next mod. May swap out the thin safety lever on the left side for a standard style.
Depending on the comments it may not make it into the 2017 rulebook, though honestly who knows at this point. I believe the comment period is still going.
Today is the last day for comments on the possible 2017 rule book for idpa. I hope the ccp class weight does go up. It will give me more options on pistols to use.
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I submitted a comment against the one point down one second rule, which I think goes too far.
Did you measure the width with stock slim safeties and height?
I'd done setting up guns for anything other than SSP and CDP.
The frequency of changes to the IDPA rules is absurd.
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Thanks, rhart.
You are welcome.
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I got mine finished last weekend. I'm pleased but there might be a little more work to do. I'm getting 9lb DA and a little over 4lb with the 13lb (blue) mainspring. I polished everything as I normally do and it's very very smooth trigger pull but a touch higher than I want. I believe the majority of the improvement lay in the firing pin block movement.
I'm not sure how I feel about the TruGlo sights after shooting them outdoors. They are very easy to pick up and work great in the dark but precision work is difficult. I think for self defense and with "old eyes" they would be desirable (I have 20/15 and I haven't lost my near vision...yet). I'm used to a very small fiber optic on the front and a beveled and serrated rear. However, it may just be something I need to get used to.
I'm very pleased with the accuracy (Cajun 10x bushing). It was very near my Accushadow (non-scientific off hand shooting at 25 yds). Next thing I'm going to do is try it with a longer slide...just for the hell of it.
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The top image is steel frame P01 Compact, with 10x bushing and 6.3gr of AA#5 and a 124gr Gold Dot.
The lower image is the Accushadow with 4.3gr of VV320 and a 124gr Montana Gold HP.
Both were shot offhand with 2-3 seconds between shots (25yds). No cherry picking of groups...one after the other. Flyers are all me. The weapons have much more potential.
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Just got my tracking # from Buds. Looking forward to picking it up Tuesday [emoji106]
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Just got my tracking # from Buds. Looking forward to picking it up Tuesday [emoji106]
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We'll need pics of it along with that Cajunized OD green P-01 sister it has waiting for it!
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P01 CTS LS ;D
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Added some VZ grips to mine. Got them during the black Friday sale
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Grips look great, i'm trying to decide if I'm going to keep mine, or post it up love the way it feels though!
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I wanted to add my pair of SP-01's One on the left CZ 75 SP-01 on the Right SP-01 compact with .22 Kadet. I love shooting this pair.
(http://imageshack.com/a/img924/9898/8zOU1k.jpg)
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Dang, ya'll are posting some pics of sweet looking SP-01 Compacts! Nice work! Who is going to be the first one to get theirs hard chromed in matte so it looks sort of like stainless steel?
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Dang, ya'll are posting some pics of sweet looking SP-01 Compacts! Nice work! Who is going to be the first one to get theirs hard chromed in matte so it looks sort of like stainless steel?
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I'd love to have the slide coated bronze and keep the body black .
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Dang, ya'll are posting some pics of sweet looking SP-01 Compacts! Nice work! Who is going to be the first one to get theirs hard chromed in matte so it looks sort of like stainless steel?
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I'd love to have the slide coated bronze and keep the body black .
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Makes me think of the CGW Copperhead pistols. That would look great!
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Here's my SP-01 Compact with the two siblings. Wish I could snap pics like Stuart, but this will have to do...
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P01 CTS LS ;D
(http://i468.photobucket.com/albums/rr50/huskerlrrp/SIG/Gunsmithing/DSCN3207_zpsapumr46m.jpg)
I actually think that would make a great carry pistol!
Husker, would you actually shoot it like that?
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Here's my SP-01 Compact with the two siblings. Wish I could snap pics like Stuart, but this will have to do...
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Cool picture! I'm really digging the bronze grips on that compact SP-01, are those from CZC?
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Anyone know if the SP01 compact will fit in a holster for a P01?
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Anyone know if the SP01 compact will fit in a holster for a P01?
To me, the SP-01 Compact looks like a steel framed P-01 with similar dimensions, but I do not know for sure.
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Anyone know if the SP01 compact will fit in a holster for a P01?
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Yes they do the crossbreed is a P01 holster and the Serpa is a SP01 holster
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Here's my SP-01 Compact with the two siblings. Wish I could snap pics like Stuart, but this will have to do...
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Cool picture! I'm really digging the bronze grips on that compact SP-01, are those from CZC?
Thanks! I snagged those from CGW.
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Does the SP-01 Compact have the heavy barrel (.550 OD) like the SP-01 or the standard barrel (.504 OD) like the 75b?
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How easy is it to decock these without a safety decocker?
Is hammer riding safe enough on them? Will they 1/2 cock like a 75 with a de cocker?
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BTW this rate at which these are selling has consistently been increasing each day in the last 5 days. The in stock number at Anacortes dropped by 12 from last night to this morning, and then dropped by another 4 just now. Keep an eye on those numbers if you had been on the fence. They were going a lot slower a week ago. Don't want any members to miss out if they thought they were selling slower and were going to wait. At the rate from the last 5 days they will be gone just after Christmas, but the rate could continue to increase and they'd be gone sooner.
Does the SP-01 Compact have the heavy barrel (.550 OD) like the SP-01 or the standard barrel (.504 OD) like the 75b?
Offhand I think it is the standard barrel, but I am not sure. I will check this evening when I am at home.
How easy is it to decock these without a safety decocker?
Is hammer riding safe enough on them? Will they 1/2 cock like a 75 with a de cocker?
There are several ways that people recommend and one that seems to be the safest is the thumb role.
Getting the hammer to half cock. Using whatever method for deckocking that you chose, once the hammer has cleared the sear from full cock position release the trigger. As you continue to let the hammer down it will catch on the sear at half cock position. Keeping the trigger depressed drops the hammer fully. Does that make sense? I can shoot a little video this evening if that would make it more clear.
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Last night I sent an email to Mr Gun Dealer thanking them for taking care of the forum members who ordered through them for this pistol. I don't know if the content of that email had any effect (likely not), but their price just dropped to $511. They previously had the lowest price, and now they definitely have the lowest price!
If you order through them just remember:
1- Have your FFL email them a copy of their license right away so you get the fastest turn around.
2- They don't have a login portal for you to track order status. But, you will get purchase confirmation emails, ship confirm emails, and delivery confirm emails. While the lack of a login portal felt abnormal their service was very fast and they were very nice to work with.
**** I have been given nothing for saying this!**** ....But I am always for sale for a CZ O0 Haha just trying to keep our members posted. Especially because I desperately had wished I had been into CZ's back when those Compact Shadows made it state side, and I vowed to snag one if they returned. Well, this was as close as I can get right now.
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How easy is it to decock these without a safety decocker?
Is hammer riding safe enough on them? Will they 1/2 cock like a 75 with a de cocker?
There are several ways that people recommend and one that seems to be the safest is the thumb role.
Getting the hammer to half cock. Using whatever method for deckocking that you chose, once the hammer has cleared the sear from full cock position release the trigger. As you continue to let the hammer down it will catch on the sear at half cock position. Keeping the trigger depressed drops the hammer fully. Does that make sense? I can shoot a little video this evening if that would make it more clear.
Yes please do, all my CZs are decocker so a heads up on safe hammer drop would be cool [emoji41]
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In Stock number at Anacortes just dropped to 276. I don't know what's going on, but some batches of these things are moving out of the warehouse!
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It was at 315 on Friday, when I ordered mine. ;)
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It was at 315 on Friday, when I ordered mine. ;)
Lol so by "mine" you mean your batch of 10? Just messing... But they've picked up a lot!
Just dropped to 270!
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How easy is it to decock these without a safety decocker?
Is hammer riding safe enough on them? Will they 1/2 cock like a 75 with a de cocker?
There are several ways that people recommend and one that seems to be the safest is the thumb role.
Getting the hammer to half cock. Using whatever method for deckocking that you chose, once the hammer has cleared the sear from full cock position release the trigger. As you continue to let the hammer down it will catch on the sear at half cock position. Keeping the trigger depressed drops the hammer fully. Does that make sense? I can shoot a little video this evening if that would make it more clear.
Yes please do, all my CZs are decocker so a heads up on safe hammer drop would be cool [emoji41]
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I think I figured it out. Hold hammer, pull trigger then release and ride hammer down to half cocked
Not rocket science, just new to me
Maybe me is coming tomorrow. I'll get a feel for it and it I really like it I may grab another one to throw in safe [emoji106]
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But they've picked up a lot! Just dropped to 270!
I think some of the online Vendors are figuring things out, and putting some on their shelves.
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What does mr gun dealer charge to ship?
I cant seem to get the cart working. I want one
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What does mr gun dealer charge to ship?
I cant seem to get the cart working. I want one
They've charged me $29 for shipping. Odd the cart isn't working.
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What does mr gun dealer charge to ship?
I cant seem to get the cart working. I want one
I couldn't get it working when I tried either. Ended up going with tombstone for a few bucks more.
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What does mr gun dealer charge to ship?
I cant seem to get the cart working. I want one
They've charged me $29 for shipping. Odd the cart isn't working.
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Good grief, 30 bucks to ship? Thats insane.
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Insane? What is reasonable for 2day fedex?
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Insane? What is reasonable for 2day fedex?
I paid nothing to ship my SP-01 from KYgunco, and 12.00 to ship my P-07 supressor ready from iammo.........
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Just to be certain the CZ from Mrgundeals is the one to get (http://www.mrgundealer.com/product.cz-usa-75-compact-9mm-rail-steel-frame-manual-safe-39)
Which is this one from KYgunco (http://www.kygunco.com/Product/View?ItemNo=117245) and not this one (https://www.kygunco.com/Product/View?ItemNo=41526)?
I'm going to grab one just want to make sure I get the right one.
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Mr Gun Deals does have the lowest price but his high shipping charges brings his price right in line with Buds for example
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What does mr gun dealer charge to ship?
I cant seem to get the cart working. I want one
They've charged me $29 for shipping. Odd the cart isn't working.
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Good grief, 30 bucks to ship? Thats insane.
Yeah... $541 was the final price, so that's what I went off of for pricing.
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Just to be certain the CZ from Mrgundeals is the one to get (http://www.mrgundealer.com/product.cz-usa-75-compact-9mm-rail-steel-frame-manual-safe-39)
Which is this one from KYgunco (http://www.kygunco.com/Product/View?ItemNo=117245) and not this one (https://www.kygunco.com/Product/View?ItemNo=41526)?
I'm going to grab one just want to make sure I get the right one.
You want to order the one with the part #99021
That is the correct one to get
That price is high at Kygunco
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Im going to check my local dealer in the AM.
I strongly suspect ALL these places are polling live inventory from a single source, Bill Hicks.
Im going to see if he can get one and put me out the door for under what the shipping + transfer (50 bucks from Mr gun dealer) for example. Id rather pass the cash to him than some internet guy wanting to charge me 30 to ship.
If not, I guess I'll get one from the cheapest online dealer. I dont think ive ever seen a railed steel frame compact, and my wife likes my SP-01, and "it would be perfect if it was just smaller"...
Well.......
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Mr Gun Deals does have the lowest price but his high shipping charges brings his price right in line with Buds for example
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Cash discount at buds is $568 and non-cash is $585. I don't have anything against buds, they're just a $44 more non-cash price.
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Im going to check my local dealer in the AM.
I strongly suspect ALL these places are polling live inventory from a single source, Bill Hicks.
Im going to see if he can get one and put me out the door for under what the shipping + transfer (50 bucks from Mr gun dealer) for example. Id rather pass the cash to him than some internet guy wanting to charge me 30 to ship.
If not, I guess I'll get one from the cheapest online dealer. I dont think ive ever seen a railed steel frame compact, and my wife likes my SP-01, and "it would be perfect if it was just smaller"...
Well.......
That would be awesome! Let us know if he'll do that for our members too!
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Tango,
Thank you just placed my order with MrGunDealer.
Scarlett Pistols,
You can thank MrGunsandGear for some of the inventory reduction. He posted about these little pistols and got A LOT of interest.
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Tango,
Thank you just placed my order with MrGunDealer.
Scarlett Pistols,
You can thank MrGunsandGear for some of the inventory reduction. He posted about these little pistols and got A LOT of interest.
Ohhhhh! Where'd he post?
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Well something changed at Buds since this afternoon as they had price match at 546 and layaway available
Now you can't even buy one unless you are a Team Buds member
Buds prices do fluctuate a lot so they aren't kidding when they say pricing and inventory can change by the hour.
Glad I I got my order in. Buds is convenient to use for me as my FFL already is on file with them
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Well something changed at Buds since this afternoon as they had price match at 546 and layaway available
Now you can't even buy one unless you are a Team Buds member
Dang! That's crazy fast!
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He'd have to ship them, though, etc etc and thats cost and time. Plus CC fees etc.
If I pre pay him cash for guns, he usually lets me have them for a good deal plus tax over his cost. He's a great dealer, and He knows other wise he will just get a transfer anyway - so we scratch each others back.
Sometimes it works, sometimes his cost is more than what online dealers sell for. If he can make money, and I save money, we do it. Otherwise he still gets a 20.00 transfer. I got my Evo from him. But he couldnt touch the deal I got on my P-07 urban grey.
Lets say for example his cost is 500 bucks on this gun. Shipping is 12.00. We are at 512. tax is 28. Thats 540.00 Throw in 25 bucks profit for him on a pre paid cash sale ad we are at 565. Thats about the same price as Mr gun dealer, and it doesnt matter either way.
But say its 450. Then we will split the difference. I'll be out the door around 520, and He will make 40 instead of 20. I save 40, he makes 40. The transaction costs him no CC BS, and its pre paid so no risk or floating capital. We both win.
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Tango,
Thank you just placed my order with MrGunDealer.
Scarlett Pistols,
You can thank MrGunsandGear for some of the inventory reduction. He posted about these little pistols and got A LOT of interest.
Ohhhhh! Where'd he post?
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Just found his post on Facebook
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LOL at people not keeping a lid on this.
I just need till tomorrow. He's closed on Sat,sun,monday.
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Tango,
Thank you just placed my order with MrGunDealer.
Scarlett Pistols,
You can thank MrGunsandGear for some of the inventory reduction. He posted about these little pistols and got A LOT of interest.
Ohhhhh! Where'd he post?
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Just found his post on Facebook
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It's been 23 hours, hopefully the worst is over.
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Scarlett Pistol, in one of your earlier photos, you had various magazines, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind putting a SP01 mag base on a 16 round magazine and trying it in your new compact?
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Scarlett Pistol, in one of your earlier photos, you had various magazines, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind putting a SP01 mag base on a 16 round magazine and trying it in your new compact?
I bought these 16 rounders with the mag base already on them. Are you just wanting the pic? I've ran the pistol with these 16 rounders at the range with no functional issues. Same with 17, 18 and 19 round mags. Happy to test for anything else you can think of...
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In that picture, the SP-01 Compact looks like a 16 round mag with an SP01 base on it, is that correct?
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In that picture, the SP-01 Compact looks like a 16 round mag with an SP01 base on it, is that correct?
Technically it's this Mecgar magazine, got it here.
http://gregcotellc.com/cart/cz-factory-mecgar-magazines-c-173/mecgar-cz-75-compact-9mm-16-rd-extended-cz7516b0430177001-p-1639.html?zenid=1cae8e204f7bf1b1f3d934033afdb039
These are the only 16 rounders I have. Not 100% sure they are the SP-01 base, but they are the same size when I compare them.
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Thank You, that was exactly what I was looking for.
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Just picked mine up at my FFL. 20 dollar transfer
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I like the trigger. A lot.....it feels smoother and crisper than the one on the P-01 I picked up last week
The included target [emoji457] had a nice grouping
Going to clean it and perhaps hit range tonight to put 200 down the pipe. Probably 100 S&B, 50 Independence and 50 PMC
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Very nice test target! Let us know how it goes!
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Just picked mine up at my FFL. 20 dollar transfer
Good times! ;D
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You guys are killing me! I picked up another gun instead of getting mine off of layaway (I'm trying to wait for two more weeks). I talked myself out of paying for mine last night. LOL
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One of us...
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Gun shot great tonight no issues. Ate everything I fed it and on occasion it hit where I was aiming. The gun did its part as long as I did mine
I want to say that despite the weight difference between my P-01 and this gun, felt recoil was almost the same. Odd lol
The only thing I could classify as a negative was I found this small bump or pimple on the beavertail
I mean it is small but if course once you see something you key on it
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Is this just a small glob of polycoat? I tried to scrape it off with my fingernail but no dice
Ideas on how to remove it? I don't think it warrants a return but also want to make sure not a bigger issue under it
Thoughts?
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^^Its a birth mark, that makes it special. :DI would keep it unless it agitated my hand while shooting.
I am unclear on how you could smooth that out. Hopefully another forum member will have an idea.
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I am confused a tad on getting a good secure fit for an OWB Kydex holster for this gun. What model CZ do I select?? Shadow Compact , SP01, 75 Compact ?? The slide measures .933" and the frame is 1.10" same as P01 (leaning towards asking for a P01 holster) ?????????
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I am confused a tad on getting a good secure fit for an OWB Kydex holster for this gun. What model CZ do I select?? Shadow Compact , SP01, 75 Compact ?? The slide measures .933" and the frame is 1.10" same as P01 (leaning towards asking for a P01 holster) ?????????
It's a P-01 frame so that should be your best bet.
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I am confused a tad on getting a good secure fit for an OWB Kydex holster for this gun. What model CZ do I select?? Shadow Compact , SP01, 75 Compact ?? The slide measures .933" and the frame is 1.10" same as P01 (leaning towards asking for a P01 holster) ?????????
Page 20 Reply #294. Shows the gun in two different holsters but I plan on getting a P01 holster for mine
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Just picked up another steel compact, no rail....didn't like these at first. 2 trips back to the lgs and I may rid of my new full size stainless for one
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Ordered one on Monday. This wait is killing me!
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Buds is back to 546 shipped with price match request. That's a cash price only
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I am confused a tad on getting a good secure fit for an OWB Kydex holster for this gun. What model CZ do I select?? Shadow Compact , SP01, 75 Compact ?? The slide measures .933" and the frame is 1.10" same as P01 (leaning towards asking for a P01 holster) ?????????
It fits in both but it's a little tight in the sp01 holster . Stick with P01
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Yes. Somehow I spaced out my Blade tech production holster. I tried it today, when it was adjust too loose for the SP01 Shadow it was too tight IMO for carry. Keep in mind this Kydex not leather. I suspect leather might be more adaptable????
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I offloaded my only CZ earlier this year and I regret it, so I've been on a hunt for another one. I wasn't looking for a compact, but this looked like a nice setup, pretty much an SP-01 compact. I ordered mine from Mr. Gundealer. I spoke to them today and was told it should ship early next week.
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I offloaded my only CZ earlier this year and I regret it, so I've been on a hunt for another one. I wasn't looking for a compact, but this looked like a nice setup, pretty much an SP-01 compact. I ordered mine from Mr. Gundealer. I spoke to them today and was told it should ship early next week.
Congratulations and welcome back to the fold!
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My SP-01 Compact resting with its OD P-01 cousin
Both purchased within a few days of each other
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I love the SP01 Compact's high, curvy tail, just like i like on my women! ;D
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Two of my friends ordered SP-01 Compacts because of shooting mine. Of course, they want them like mine, so Cajun parts ordered and the pistols came to my house. Thought I would try being Stuart again and snap some pics while I have 3 of these in my possession. It turned out it took a while longer to figure out any decent lighting and I'm not good at putting together the background. Basically.... Stuart is a man amongst men when it comes to his photos! Anyways, here's my attempts at the 3 SP-01 Compacts.
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Found an effect I learned in photoshop in my phone's picture app. It's called Lomo. Pretty tricky in photoshop, and the app didn't do a terrible job.
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My SP-01 Compact resting with its OD P-01 cousin
Both purchased within a few days of each other
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Very nice..Which one do you like best?
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Does cz make any other steel framed railed compacts besides this one?
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Does cz make any other steel framed railed compacts besides this one?
Nope... That's what makes this batch unique and why people have been jumping on it.
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Shadow compact but i think there not currently in production?
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Yeah. I am real close to ordering one, just don't want to lose money if I don't like it...
I rarely buy new guns. Sp-01 threaded, and my p-07 threaded are the only hand guns ive ever bought new. Rest have been used.
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Yeah. I am real close to ordering one, just don't want to lose money if I don't like it...
I rarely buy new guns. Sp-01 threaded, and my p-07 threaded are the only hand guns ive ever bought new. Rest have been used.
If, by chance you don't like it and you are patient enough to wait until they have all sold out, they should hold all their value and maybe gain some due to being a limited run.... Just keep it looking new if you don't like it. It's heavy so I don't think most people are using it for concealed carry...
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My SP-01 Compact resting with its OD P-01 cousin
Both purchased within a few days of each other
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Very nice..Which one do you like best?
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Right now a coin flip as I've only had one range session with each gun.
The P-01 def is a lot lighter than the SP-01
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Does cz make any other steel framed railed compacts besides this one?
Nope... That's what makes this batch unique and why people have been jumping on it.
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For me it wasn't so much the rail as it was the SP-01 style beavertail. I didn't like my Compact as the original beavertail dug into my hand
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Does cz make any other steel framed railed compacts besides this one?
Nope... That's what makes this batch unique and why people have been jumping on it.
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For me it wasn't so much the rail as it was the SP-01 style beavertail. I didn't like my Compact as the original beavertail dug into my hand
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Good point! It does feel much better than my classic 75 Compact in the beavertail. Especially before I got used to it...
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So, got mine together yesterday and put 250rds of mixed stuff through it today...
Thoughts so far are: this thing is a tank, even unloaded! It's called a "compact" but it weighs about as much as a full-size (which doesn't bother me a bit because I figured it would, and all-steel, well, shoots like all-steel, and I dig that).
Like others have said already, this is probably the best finished CZ I've ever purchased (and I've had 8 of them over the years), no real machine marks or rough spots anywhere.
Mine has got the full Cajun Gun Works love, meaning the Production-legal kit + SRS-1 short-reset + T-2 disconnector: so without me going too OCD on the polishing (some 400, 1000, and 1500 grit did get used on the sides and bottom of the trigger bar and on the sides of the hammer, but I consider that fairly normal when doing a trigger job), it's pretty ridiculously close to my Shadows in trigger weight, feel, and trigger-reset. Yeah, the new hammer/springs probably makes the biggest impact, but if anyone is on the fence about doing the SRS-1 + T-2 disconnector, I'd say if you've got the scratch, DO IT.
What is really interesting to me is how CGW's SRS-1 works and I didn't completely get it until after I installed it: when you let the SA out to reset it "clicks" and resets BEFORE it re-engages the firing-pin-block (so maybe equal too or within 1-2mm of a non-FPB Shadow's/85C's reset), if you get off the trigger or let it out maybe 1-3mm's further, it then resets the FPB and STOPS... so if you get off the trigger in SA, thanks to the T-2 disconnector, you only have 1-2ish mm's of take-up (just deactivating the FPB which I can't feel is still in there), then BANG! I'm pretty impressed. Also, put in a 14lb reduced-strength recoil-spring so it shoots flatter and I can track the sights better.
I also installed Dawson sights because I like to actually be able to aim and hit stuff and I'm one of those weirdos who likes sights that are super-crisp and free of distracting gimmicky stuff, the "thick" 97 trigger 'cause I just prefer them, and a P-01 slide-stop... because it should have gotten one already as it fits it way better while not sticking out the other side like 1/4" and I'm pretty sure whomever the guy at CZ was who grabbed and installed the TS slide-stops on this run of guns was drunk or something. I'm pissed at myself for forgetting to order a solid firing-pin-retaing pin from CZC because I feel they're essential if one plans on dry-firing a lot, but I'll be getting one and installing it soon.
Set off everything I brought today except for some light-strikes on some crummy steel-cased Russian manufactured Monarch crap I got at Acadamy for $9 a box... it was the ammo, as I was skeptical enough to where I pulled the 13lb hammer-spring (all went bang on the second pull though) and reinstalled the stocker: still got the same results w/ a light-strike every 8-10rds. I just wanted to see if it would run and extract the crappy stuff, and it did flawlessly.
As far as accuracy: didn't take much to hold a 1.5-2" group at 20yards off-hand, even w/ my local indoor range conspiring to make it impossible for me to see my all-black irons, as apparently they didn't think decent or even adequate lighting was needed when they designed their range (they've got lots of goofy zombie targets and Duck Dynasty type gear if you're into that sort of thing though).
Oh! Before I forget, someone had already mentioned it but: SAVE YOURSELF LOTS OF CUSSING AND CLIP THE STUPID LITTLE TAB OFF THE BOTTOM OF THE MAG-BRAKE WITH SOME TIN-SNIPS! That stupid/useless tab on there turns an easy hammer-spring swap into a curse-filled !@## show LOL.
I bought some VZ grips for it which normally I like w/ the 97 trigger, but the "palm-pinch" when doing fast reloads w/ the thin grips is no bueno, and these days I'm preferring the "meatier" palm swells so I'll be returning them and trying the LOK palm-swells, stock works ok for now...
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well I gave in and bought one - had my LGS order it - probably 575 OTD.
I'm bleep sure broke now.
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How do these balance compared to the alloy framed P-01? I am starting to want one. ::)
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How do these balance compared to the alloy framed P-01? I am starting to want one. ::)
It's more of a beast, feels more like a Shadow, just smaller. Recoil is a joke. :)
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https://www.anacortesgunshop.com/cz-75-compact-9mm-rail-steel-frame-manual-safe-148051 (https://www.anacortesgunshop.com/cz-75-compact-9mm-rail-steel-frame-manual-safe-148051) Is showing on 4 left in stock. Do you think that's all that is left of the 500?
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https://www.anacortesgunshop.com/cz-75-compact-9mm-rail-steel-frame-manual-safe-148051 (https://www.anacortesgunshop.com/cz-75-compact-9mm-rail-steel-frame-manual-safe-148051) Is showing on 4 left in stock. Do you think that's all that is left of the 500?
Might be... It was showing 7 when I posted....
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This could be the end of the supply tonight!
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There were 250 when I called the dealer to get mine
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There were 250 when I called the dealer to get mine
Was that today? This seems pretty crazy that they all disappeared in one day...
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When was that? I've been thinking about one. Bad timing but I might do it anyway.
Wanted something for carry. Currently carry a HK P7 which I love to carry but I'm very partial to my Shadow. The P7 only holds 8+1 too. A little concerned with the weight but if I don't like it I can always sell it to someone who missed out and get a P-01. I can't believe these weigh within a couple of ozs of my Shadow.
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bill hicks still showing 250 in stock
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When was that? I've been thinking about one. Bad timing but I might do it anyway.
Wanted something for carry. Currently carry a HK P7 which I love to carry but I'm very partial to my Shadow. The P7 only holds 8+1 too. A little concerned with the weight but if I don't like it I can always sell it to someone who missed out and get a P-01. I can't believe these weigh within a couple of ozs of my Shadow.
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They're beefy. 3 ounces heavier than the classic 75 Compact, but they're not light. I'll carry mine, but it's not what I recommend to people generally. But you'll enjoy shooting it for sure.
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bill hicks still showing 250 in stock
I wonder why Anacortes is down to 4? They seemed in line with the other stock numbers. Does Bill have a sight we can all check? I'll call him tomorrow even to see what happened.
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Bill hicks is a distributor. His inventory is probably daily though? Dont know.
Just go to their site and type in a the SKU. I called my dealer about 6 and got it
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http://www.billhicksco.com/storefrontCommerce/search.do?searchType=keyword&keyword=99021&emailAddress=
Still showing 250. Their inventory is pretty "live"
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Bill hicks is a distributor. His inventory is probably daily though? Dont know.
Just go to their site and type in a the SKU. I called my dealer about 6 and got it
Huh, well I'll definitely call and see if the disparity exists in the morning.
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I seriously doubt someone bought 200. Thats a distributor level order.
And Bill Hicks doesnt cut deals.
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I have a stock P01, well my dad does, and while I like it enough to want to mod it I also like the heft a little. I'm just concerned with carrying it all day. It took my back a while to get used to the P7 and that's 34. 4oz loded I believe. This would be another 9 oz roughly loaded. Not terrible. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161209/e44527bf4eb01d1d4cff692dfa549a64.jpg)
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Showing 247 at Bill Hicks....it's amazing to see how little amount of CZs across the board on hand
Interestingly enough the have 156 on hand of the the 99003 which is a P-01 that says CZ 75 Compact on slide. The P-01 seems hard to find now, this is a hidden gem for people looking for a P-01
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When was that? I've been thinking about one. Bad timing but I might do it anyway.
Wanted something for carry. Currently carry a HK P7 which I love to carry but I'm very partial to my Shadow. The P7 only holds 8+1 too. A little concerned with the weight but if I don't like it I can always sell it to someone who missed out and get a P-01. I can't believe these weigh within a couple of ozs of my Shadow.
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I have a Shadow as well as this new SP-01 compact. I had them both out to the range on Monday and shot them side by side. I think this new SP-01 is about 2 ounces heavier than my Shadow and it feels heavier. I'm not sure I will carry it. It will probably be more of a car/travel pistol.
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Let's put this baby to bed: completely factory, out of the box, the SP01 Compact weighs 37.65 oz with included 14rd magazine with rubber baseplate, and weighs 34.75 oz without mag.
Fully loaded with 14 rounds of Federal HST 147gr, it weighs 44.45 oz. Loaded with 14+1, it's 44.90 oz.
Source: my newly picked up gun and my lab scale.
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I was figuring about 44-45 oz loaded. It's 2 oz lighter than my Shadow.
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Bill hicks is a distributor. His inventory is probably daily though? Dont know.
Just go to their site and type in a the SKU. I called my dealer about 6 and got it
Huh, well I'll definitely call and see if the disparity exists in the morning.
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I just looked and Anacortes shows 247 in stock. Hang in there Scarlett hopefully there will be a few available when you're ready to get a second one.
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well I gave in and bought one - had my LGS order it - probably 575 OTD.
I'm bleep sure broke now.
But bleep sure will be smiling when you get yours. I was with mine. ;D
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Ended up canceling and ordering from mr gun dealer.
Bill hicks wanted to beat my dealer up on shipping and tack on charges unless he spent a bunch of money. Cant stand them as a distributor. Never liked them when I bought direct either.
Ended up paying the $541 to have it drop shipped to him. Would have cost me $75 more with sales tax, extra shipping and giving him a fair margin similar to what he makes on the transfer.
Too bad they're the only distributor with these.
Don't expect them to be flying off the shelf to dealers anytime soon. I'd bet it's almost all dropship sales for these. Most dealers wont deal with hicks for store inventory given the choice. Buds is certainly drop shipping from them, as is mr gun dealer. I'd bet everyone else is too - save maybe kygunco. I don't know how they work. My sp01 came from them, they were the only ones with a black suppressor ready.
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Ended up canceling and ordering from mr gun dealer.
Bill hicks wanted to beat my dealer up on shipping and tack on charges unless he spent a bunch of money. Cant stand them as a distributor. Never liked them when I bought direct either.
Ended up paying the $541 to have it drop shipped to him. Would have cost me $75 more with sales tax, extra shipping and giving him a fair margin similar to what he makes on the transfer.
Too bad they're the only distributor with these.
I thought mine would be drop shipped as well, but the shipping label had an Arizona address (AZGuns). The tracking showed it originating in Arizona as well. I'm guessing Hicks shipped to AZGuns and they turned around and shipped to me.
Don't expect them to be flying off the shelf to dealers anytime soon. I'd bet it's almost all dropship sales for these. Most dealers wont deal with hicks for store inventory given the choice. Buds is certainly drop shipping from them, as is mr gun dealer. I'd bet everyone else is too - save maybe kygunco. I don't know how they work. My sp01 came from them, they were the only ones with a black suppressor ready.
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Borsig , I know firsthand the relationship between Bill Hicks, and Gander Mountain. If you're not GM your not getting a deal from Hicks.
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I guess as collectors you guys are lucky. Had rsr, sport south, etc had these, they'd be gone, on gun broker, or in shops.
My wife wanted a small version of my sp01. She likes heavier guns. I dont care about the collectability. Although that's neat.
Bill Hicks sucks, and that's exactly why these are still around, and places like iammo, or the other cz discounters don't have them.
Gander cant run the sku for a retail season, and its not a cz catalog item. They won't stock it. They also wont allocate reserve them, which allows small dealers a shot. Half of everything hicks gets is automatically allocated it seems.
Perspective - to get ups flat rate shipping as a dealer you have to spend $1500. Otherwise, you pay retail ship on each item individually. For my guy, that was $30, per gun.
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You've been a wealth of knowledge Borsig!
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Borsig, what can happen, and does occasionally. If they sit on Hicks shelf's longer than they want. You could see them at Gander as a clearance item.
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Be interesting.
But I wouldn't bet on that with these. At least im not taking that bet when its something wife really wanted.
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Tombstone tactical had free shipping on these, which was nice as I only had to pay the $15 transfer fee .
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I have a stock P01, well my dad does, and while I like it enough to want to mod it I also like the heft a little. I'm just concerned with carrying it all day. It took my back a while to get used to the P7 and that's 34. 4oz loded I believe. This would be another 9 oz roughly loaded. Not terrible. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161209/e44527bf4eb01d1d4cff692dfa549a64.jpg)
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I've been after a p7 for years. It's a shame they're off the roster but it's a feat of engineering and reliable. Too bad they're so pricey cause I'd have one if they weren't. Nice piece bud. I'm jealous.
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so it appears they are going to be to heavy, or very close to working for IDPA CCP weight?
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I like this pic
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I have a stock P01, well my dad does, and while I like it enough to want to mod it I also like the heft a little. I'm just concerned with carrying it all day. It took my back a while to get used to the P7 and that's 34. 4oz loded I believe. This would be another 9 oz roughly loaded. Not terrible. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161209/e44527bf4eb01d1d4cff692dfa549a64.jpg)
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I've been after a p7 for years. It's a shame they're off the roster but it's a feat of engineering and reliable. Too bad they're so pricey cause I'd have one if they weren't. Nice piece bud. I'm jealous.
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Thanks man. Love the pistol, very unique 9n so many ways. The cool thing is it points exactly the same as a CZ so swapping between them feels familiar.
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I ordered on the 6th, got tracking on the 12th, and is expected to arrive on the 16th. Such a long 10-day stretch. I don't think I've ever been this anxious.
Mr.Gundealer's site still shows stock. Good price, just a little slow on turn around time.
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Thank you for all the information in this thread. I just picked mine up from my ffl. This is my first cz....I shoot mostly glocks. My first impressions what i held it is that i like.
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Thank you for all the information in this thread. I just picked mine up from my ffl. This is my first cz....I shoot mostly glocks. My first impressions what i held it is that i like.
Glad this helped ya! I'm a snob on triggers and definitely recommend polishing, a few springs and one of the competition or race hammers. It will turn it into a real gem IMHO. Enjoy and let us know if you have any questions or need any help!
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Thank you for all the information in this thread. I just picked mine up from my ffl. This is my first cz....I shoot mostly glocks. My first impressions what i held it is that i like.
Pretty good choice for a first CZ IMHO. I'm betting there will be full size SP01 - or better yet, a Shadow - in your future.
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You guys suck, made me have to have one. Going to get it now. Going to look good next to my full-size stainless and my other compact. I got a set of mepro lights to put on it right here along with a 13-pound spring kit and some aluminum grips on the way.
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You guys suck, made me have to have one. Going to get it now. Going to look good next to my full-size stainless and my other compact. I got a set of mepro lights to put on it right here along with a 13-pound spring kit and some aluminum grips on the way.
Haha mission accomplished! If there is anything I have learned about this forum above all else is that the members a some of the next enablers in existence.
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Twenty seven pages in! Are there any women out there to provide shooting/handling feedback?
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So, got mine together yesterday and put 250rds of mixed stuff through it today...
Thoughts so far are: this thing is a tank, even unloaded! It's called a "compact" but it weighs about as much as a full-size (which doesn't bother me a bit because I figured it would, and all-steel, well, shoots like all-steel, and I dig that).
Like others have said already, this is probably the best finished CZ I've ever purchased (and I've had 8 of them over the years), no real machine marks or rough spots anywhere.
Mine has got the full Cajun Gun Works love, meaning the Production-legal kit + SRS-1 short-reset + T-2 disconnector: so without me going too OCD on the polishing (some 400, 1000, and 1500 grit did get used on the sides and bottom of the trigger bar and on the sides of the hammer, but I consider that fairly normal when doing a trigger job), it's pretty ridiculously close to my Shadows in trigger weight, feel, and trigger-reset. Yeah, the new hammer/springs probably makes the biggest impact, but if anyone is on the fence about doing the SRS-1 + T-2 disconnector, I'd say if you've got the scratch, DO IT.
What is really interesting to me is how CGW's SRS-1 works and I didn't completely get it until after I installed it: when you let the SA out to reset it "clicks" and resets BEFORE it re-engages the firing-pin-block (so maybe equal too or within 1-2mm of a non-FPB Shadow's/85C's reset), if you get off the trigger or let it out maybe 1-3mm's further, it then resets the FPB and STOPS... so if you get off the trigger in SA, thanks to the T-2 disconnector, you only have 1-2ish mm's of take-up (just deactivating the FPB which I can't feel is still in there), then BANG! I'm pretty impressed. Also, put in a 14lb reduced-strength recoil-spring so it shoots flatter and I can track the sights better.
I also installed Dawson sights because I like to actually be able to aim and hit stuff and I'm one of those weirdos who likes sights that are super-crisp and free of distracting gimmicky stuff, the "thick" 97 trigger 'cause I just prefer them, and a P-01 slide-stop... because it should have gotten one already as it fits it way better while not sticking out the other side like 1/4" and I'm pretty sure whomever the guy at CZ was who grabbed and installed the TS slide-stops on this run of guns was drunk or something. I'm pissed at myself for forgetting to order a solid firing-pin-retaing pin from CZC because I feel they're essential if one plans on dry-firing a lot, but I'll be getting one and installing it soon.
Set off everything I brought today except for some light-strikes on some crummy steel-cased Russian manufactured Monarch crap I got at Acadamy for $9 a box... it was the ammo, as I was skeptical enough to where I pulled the 13lb hammer-spring (all went bang on the second pull though) and reinstalled the stocker: still got the same results w/ a light-strike every 8-10rds. I just wanted to see if it would run and extract the crappy stuff, and it did flawlessly.
As far as accuracy: didn't take much to hold a 1.5-2" group at 20yards off-hand, even w/ my local indoor range conspiring to make it impossible for me to see my all-black irons, as apparently they didn't think decent or even adequate lighting was needed when they designed their range (they've got lots of goofy zombie targets and Duck Dynasty type gear if you're into that sort of thing though).
Oh! Before I forget, someone had already mentioned it but: SAVE YOURSELF LOTS OF CUSSING AND CLIP THE STUPID LITTLE TAB OFF THE BOTTOM OF THE MAG-BRAKE WITH SOME TIN-SNIPS! That stupid/useless tab on there turns an easy hammer-spring swap into a curse-filled !@## show LOL.
I bought some VZ grips for it which normally I like w/ the 97 trigger, but the "palm-pinch" when doing fast reloads w/ the thin grips is no bueno, and these days I'm preferring the "meatier" palm swells so I'll be returning them and trying the LOK palm-swells, stock works ok for now...
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can you give a model or item number for those dawson sights??
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Got it home, absolutely love it! A little heavier to carry than the standard compact but, it gives me an excuse to buy a nice reinforced carry belt and a Winthrop P-01 IWB holster.
Anyone one have an idea of serial # ranges for these? Is it really only 500 made. Sorry didn't read all 27...
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Twenty seven pages in! Are there any women out there to provide shooting/handling feedback?
My wife wanted it, will let you know when she shoots it.
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Ended up canceling and ordering from mr gun dealer.
Bill hicks wanted to beat my dealer up on shipping and tack on charges unless he spent a bunch of money. Cant stand them as a distributor. Never liked them when I bought direct either.
Ended up paying the $541 to have it drop shipped to him. Would have cost me $75 more with sales tax, extra shipping and giving him a fair margin similar to what he makes on the transfer.
Too bad they're the only distributor with these.
Don't expect them to be flying off the shelf to dealers anytime soon. I'd bet it's almost all dropship sales for these. Most dealers wont deal with hicks for store inventory given the choice. Buds is certainly drop shipping from them, as is mr gun dealer. I'd bet everyone else is too - save maybe kygunco. I don't know how they work. My sp01 came from them, they were the only ones with a black suppressor ready.
Hey Borsig, how's the compact runnin'? Remember that railed compact I told you I was waiting to get? It ended up being one on these. Awesome piece! Bought it a Finest Firearms. Wasn't the cheapest, but wasn't the most expensive either. $20 more than you did. Not sure if he has more. Possible. He says the CZ's fly off his shelf lately. He has some real nice TriStar clones also. I was able to handle a few. Had to say I was impressed
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Got it home, absolutely love it! A little heavier to carry than the standard compact but, it gives me an excuse to buy a nice reinforced carry belt and a Winthrop P-01 IWB holster.
Anyone one have an idea of serial # ranges for these? Is it really only 500 made. Sorry didn't read all 27...
Glad you like it! Yup, CZ said 500 were all that was made. With how CZ does serial numbers on everything they aren't consecutive...
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Hi all,
Ordered mine today, will be my first CZ!
Comes in on Monday, so excited!
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Thank you for all the information in this thread. I just picked mine up from my ffl. This is my first cz....I shoot mostly glocks. My first impressions what i held it is that i like.
Pretty good choice for a first CZ IMHO. I'm betting there will be full size SP01 - or better yet, a Shadow - in your future.
I am already looking at them, LOL! I am disappointed the MR Gun dealer shipped them USPS and I missed the weekend. Next weekend i will be out at Valor ridge for Pistol Craft 1 class. I have to take my Glock 19 since I do not have any time in with the CZ. Hopefully I may get a chance after class to try it out.
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Thank you for all the information in this thread. I just picked mine up from my ffl. This is my first cz....I shoot mostly glocks. My first impressions what i held it is that i like.
Pretty good choice for a first CZ IMHO. I'm betting there will be full size SP01 - or better yet, a Shadow - in your future.
I am already looking at them, LOL! I am disappointed the MR Gun dealer shipped them USPS and I missed the weekend. Next weekend i will be out at Valor ridge for Pistol Craft 1 class. I have to take my Glock 19 since I do not have any time in with the CZ. Hopefully I may get a chance after class to try it out.
Post a summary of your experiences at Valor Ridge and your thoughts on their class would you? Maybe a whole new thread.
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I have no idea if mine has even shipped or not.
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Just bought my second. Now I see there are 217 left...These are so nice I want a 3rd
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I have no idea if mine has even shipped or not.
I take it you ordered from Mr.Gundealer? If you did, call and ask if they have your FFL's info.
I ordered on the 6th. Called shop on the 7th to tell them to contact my FFL because my FFL wouldn't call the shop at my request. Called shop again on the 12th to confirm, and they said the gun was in the mail. Later that night, I got the email confirmation.
I don't like the slow communication either and they can even be slow to answer their phone. My guess based on the time frame is you'll get notification by the end of this week.
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So tempting, but I'm holding out for a P-01 Omega. Plus I just picked up a P-01 Pro-tek and funds are running low.
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I should be receiving mine tomorrow.
Maybe someone already mentioned it, but if I'm getting Dawson sights, which do I order?
Do I order P-01 sights because the slide is the same length?
Or do I order 75/SP-01 sights?
Is there even a difference?
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So this is my first CZ and definitely not my last. My first impressions are that the feel and quality of the firearm are awesome. I currently carry a 4.5 XDM .45 and it just feels cheap in comparison. This SP-01 compact is so heavy it outweighs my fully loaded XDM, which I consider a plus. I do hate the stock trigger and will need to be upgraded soon. I am very much an amateur to modifying firearms in general, so please forgive me in advance for all the questions. I blame you all for the following: 1. Convincing me to buy this 2. Probably selling my XDM and buying many more CZs 3. CGWs is now the most visited site on my work comp.
CZ SP-01 Compact https://imgur.com/gallery/nMhXu
Took some quick photos to share.
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Never seen a factory group that tight!?! Envious
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Welcome aboard! There's tons of great threads in the gunsmithing section, they helped me a ton when I got my first CZ. But always feel free to ask any questions, we are happy to help. You made a great choice for your first CZ, IMHO!
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Never seen a factory group that tight!?! Envious
The target that came with mine was pretty tight
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So this is my first CZ and definitely not my last. My first impressions are that the feel and quality of the firearm are awesome. I currently carry a 4.5 XDM .45 and it just feels cheap in comparison. This SP-01 compact is so heavy it outweighs my fully loaded XDM, which I consider a plus. I do hate the stock trigger and will need to be upgraded soon. I am very much an amateur to modifying firearms in general, so please forgive me in advance for all the questions. I blame you all for the following: 1. Convincing me to buy this 2. Probably selling my XDM and buying many more CZs 3. CGWs is now the most visited site on my work comp.
CZ SP-01 Compact https://imgur.com/gallery/nMhXu
Took some quick photos to share.
So those are the night sights that came on your compact?
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So this is my first CZ and definitely not my last. My first impressions are that the feel and quality of the firearm are awesome. I currently carry a 4.5 XDM .45 and it just feels cheap in comparison. This SP-01 compact is so heavy it outweighs my fully loaded XDM, which I consider a plus. I do hate the stock trigger and will need to be upgraded soon. I am very much an amateur to modifying firearms in general, so please forgive me in advance for all the questions. I blame you all for the following: 1. Convincing me to buy this 2. Probably selling my XDM and buying many more CZs 3. CGWs is now the most visited site on my work comp.
CZ SP-01 Compact https://imgur.com/gallery/nMhXu
Took some quick photos to share.
So those are the night sights that came on your compact?
Yes sir, which was a nice surprise because the only details the website provided was "3 dot sights"
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Never seen a factory group that tight!?! Envious
On initial inspection I saw the chip on the beaver tail, not gonna lie it bothered me a bit. After I saw the group, I could care less about the chip lol.
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Welcome aboard! There's tons of great threads in the gunsmithing section, they helped me a ton when I got my first CZ. But always feel free to ask any questions, we are happy to help. You made a great choice for your first CZ, IMHO!
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Thanks! I can't wait to get started, I'm still in the research phase. I recently found the write up on your SP-01 compact. She sounds like a dream to shoot.
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Thanks! I can't wait to get started, I'm still in the research phase. I recently found the write up on your SP-01 compact. She sounds like a dream to shoot.
Oh good, hope it helps. Doing the upgrades like that was meticulous and time consuming. I'm in the process of doing upgrades on 3 of the SP-01 Compacts for friends. I'll have some updates to post on that thread pretty soon. Possibly with a sample size of 4 to 5 when I am done.
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So this is my first CZ and definitely not my last. My first impressions are that the feel and quality of the firearm are awesome. I currently carry a 4.5 XDM .45 and it just feels cheap in comparison. This SP-01 compact is so heavy it outweighs my fully loaded XDM, which I consider a plus. I do hate the stock trigger and will need to be upgraded soon. I am very much an amateur to modifying firearms in general, so please forgive me in advance for all the questions. I blame you all for the following: 1. Convincing me to buy this 2. Probably selling my XDM and buying many more CZs 3. CGWs is now the most visited site on my work comp.
CZ SP-01 Compact https://imgur.com/gallery/nMhXu
Took some quick photos to share.
So those are the night sights that came on your compact?
Yes sir, which was a nice surprise because the only details the website provided was "3 dot sights"
Mine does not have night sights on it.... Does everyone else's?
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I wouldn't necessarily call them nights sights. The set on mine are not tritium. They are luminous, like the hands and markers on a wrist watch.
Mine are pretty poor. The rear looks faded. The front is just barely better. I'm not really surprised since my 75B was the same way, and they'll be one of the first things I'll change out.
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I wouldn't necessarily call them nights sights. The set on mine are not tritium. They are luminous, like the hands and markers on a wrist watch.
Mine are pretty poor. The rear looks faded. The front is just barely better. I'm not really surprised since my 75B was the same way, and they'll be one of the first things I'll change out.
That's a better description. I carry a streamlight so I usually hit them once and they glow bright. They don't stay bright for long though. I plan to upgrade as well, but that trigger has waaay too much slack in single action.
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These are euro market guns. The cannot be exported with NS. Tritium.
just like HK - its photoluminiescent.
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Sure: SKU: 310-218
https://dawsonprecision.com/dawson-precision-cz-p-01-carry-fixed-sight-set-black-rear-black-front/
BTW, YMMV but mine was printing consistently 1.5"-2" low for me at 7yrds and was still printing nearly that low out to 20-25yrds. Again, YMMV because everyone's hold/grip/eyes are different...
I like a "semi-6 o'clock hold" whereas I like my shots to print right at the top of the front blade in close at 7yrds, and so I can "lollipop" a 6" steel plate at 25yrds (so maybe hitting 2-3" high at 25yrds). Dawson doesn't make a .135" front blade in plain-black (which is probably what I'd need as this front is .150" tall), they said they'd make one for me if I could wait 3-4 weeks or so... That said, since the customer service at Dawson is awesomeness, the guy gave me another option of getting an FO front sight at 50% off which they already have in a .135" height that would be in my mailbox in a few days; so, even though I do prefer all-black sights for their crispness and "unclutteredness", I took the FO option and I'm going to try out the FO front blade because I'm impatient LOL.
All that said, I'm a little concerned and have some misgivings about going to such a short front blade, as now the front's height will be equal to the width of my rear-notch (.135), which might be weird..? If it's lame, I'm pretty confident Dawson will help me to get things right, as I'll then have to go to a taller rear and back to a taller front... I'm going to get this sucker to print where I want, it's just a matter of many sight swaps it's going to take LOL!
Do to my work schedule, getting to matches or the outdoor ranges has been getting harder and harder, since I can hit closer drive-wise local indoor matches/ranges, thinking I can combat the crappy lighting better when shooting indoors with the FO... I hope anyways.
BTW/FWIW I changed a couple other little things: as for grips, the compact LOK "Bogie" palm-swell grips are fantastic! ...and went to the "old style" 85C trigger w/ red Loctite on the over-travel screw instead of the "thick" 97 trigger, which took away a bunch of over-travel I really didn't think was there or bothersome until I felt it without it, and made the reach to DA a bit better as the LOK grips are about just as thick as the stock rubber grips. Plus, after thinking about it maybe too much, I'm not 100% certain the 97 trigger in a 75-variant would be considered 100% legal when shooting IDPA if one were to nitpick, and if I decide to shoot some IDPA with this gun (which I'm sure I will) I wouldn't want to get DQ'd or feel like a cheater (I know, it's no big deal really, but it would be lame to run into someone who feels otherwise).
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Is ther a reason not to use an adjustable rear sight?
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CK1, nice looking pistol, is that a P01 slide stop?
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I dont plan to edc the sp01 compact. I also like the semi 6 oclock hold. The only sure way to get the sight picture I like is with an adjustable rear or just get lucky and find someone that has a proven fixed set up that will impact directly above the front sight. Any suggestions on a fixed set as far as height of the front and whixh rear?
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I have been discussing sights with Stuart at CZC, and I am having them mill it for a Heinie Slant Pro, #360P rear sight, and a gold outlined 6.5mm tritium front. If you would like a tritium rear, use Heinie part #365P.
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CK1, nice looking pistol, is that a P01 slide stop?
Yep. Should've came with it as it fits/works better IMHO.
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I dont plan to edc the sp01 compact. I also like the semi 6 oclock hold. The only sure way to get the sight picture I like is with an adjustable rear or just get lucky and find someone that has a proven fixed set up that will impact directly above the front sight. Any suggestions on a fixed set as far as height of the front and whixh rear?
For me, I don't like adjustable sights as they have a habit of unadjusting themselves... As for a fixed set that prints where we want them; when I find them and get there I'll let you know LOL!
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can you give a model or item number for those dawson sights??
Sure: SKU: 310-218
https://dawsonprecision.com/dawson-precision-cz-p-01-carry-fixed-sight-set-black-rear-black-front/
BTW, YMMV but mine was printing consistently 1.5"-2" low for me at 7yrds and was still printing nearly that low out to 20-25yrds. Again, YMMV because everyone's hold/grip/eyes are different...
I like a "semi-6 o'clock hold" whereas I like my shots to print right at the top of the front blade in close at 7yrds, and so I can "lollipop" a 6" steel plate at 25yrds (so maybe hitting 2-3" high at 25yrds). Dawson doesn't make a .135" front blade in plain-black (which is probably what I'd need as this front is .150" tall), they said they'd make one for me if I could wait 3-4 weeks or so... That said, since the customer service at Dawson is awesomeness, the guy gave me another option of getting an FO front sight at 50% off which they already have in a .135" height that would be in my mailbox in a few days; so, even though I do prefer all-black sights for their crispness and "unclutteredness", I took the FO option and I'm going to try out the FO front blade because I'm impatient LOL.
All that said, I'm a little concerned and have some misgivings about going to such a short front blade, as now the front's height will be equal to the width of my rear-notch (.135), which might be weird..? If it's lame, I'm pretty confident Dawson will help me to get things right, as I'll then have to go to a taller rear and back to a taller front... I'm going to get this sucker to print where I want, it's just a matter of many sight swaps it's going to take LOL!
Do to my work schedule, getting to matches or the outdoor ranges has been getting harder and harder, since I can hit closer drive-wise local indoor matches/ranges, thinking I can combat the crappy lighting better when shooting indoors with the FO... I hope anyways.
BTW/FWIW I changed a couple other little things: as for grips, the compact LOK "Bogie" palm-swell grips are fantastic! ...and went to the "old style" 85C trigger w/ red Loctite on the over-travel screw instead of the "thick" 97 trigger, which took away a bunch of over-travel I really didn't think was there or bothersome until I felt it without it, and made the reach to DA a bit better as the LOK grips are about just as thick as the stock rubber grips. Plus, after thinking about it maybe too much, I'm not 100% certain the 97 trigger in a 75-variant would be considered 100% legal when shooting IDPA if one were to nitpick, and if I decide to shoot some IDPA with this gun (which I'm sure I will) I wouldn't want to get DQ'd or feel like a cheater (I know, it's no big deal really, but it would be lame to run into someone who feels otherwise).
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The 97 trigger is a factory part. So being idpa legal should not be an issue. I believe that is the same trigger the 75's used to come with. My compact that was built in 99 has similar trigger to my 97. Most would have no idea any ways
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Never seen a factory group that tight!?! Envious
The target that came with mine was pretty tight
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I have (had) a standard steel compact that had a printout that was literally half of this one pictured. Now resides with a fellow forum member on here, claims it shoots better than his Browning with some reputable barrel. (shoulda kept it!)
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picked mine up today.
Rubber grips are fatty. Gotta go. Factory sights SUCK. Good lord who's idea were these? Theyre god awful. They will have to go if we keep the gun.
Wife seems to like.
Hopefully we can shoot it this week. I'll see if it runs my softie loads. The SP01 doesnt like them. Its the only gun I have that wont cycle them reliably.
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Well... I did it! Next year I can only hope for a good tax return so I can actually buy bullets... But I got my second SP-01 Compact!
This is going to be the pistol I hand down to my little girl/teach her with. That being the case I had to order these grips just for her. i.e. This is THE "Scarlett Pistol".
Got the Tactical Sport right hand safety "fitted" today. In the coming week I'll clean off all the nasty grease that comes caked with. Then I'll have the usual polishing and upgrades. This one will be a SAO like my 75 Classic Compact. One of the pics has all the parts I ordered. I tried pretending I was Stuart over at CZ Custom again (but I'm far from, he has a serious gift!!). I'm really stoked to get out and shoot this thing once I have it all worked over and converted!!
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PS - I've tried admitting I have a CZ problem. I'm only 4 deep now, but that whole "admitting you have a problem is the first step" saying is no good. It just makes me further accept I love shooting CZ's!
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Picked mine up today... I wonder if the guy's at CZ got my target mixed up with a shotgun test fire :/
Grips need to go, sights need to be replaced. I shoot Glocks so an actual safety and a hammer are very odd to me. Time to make it my own. I wonder if I can get an RMR mount milled into the slide...
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Picked mine up today... I wonder if the guy's at CZ got my target mixed up with a shotgun test fire :/
Grips need to go, sights need to be replaced. I shoot Glocks so an actual safety and a hammer are very odd to me. Time to make it my own. I wonder if I can get an RMR mount milled into the slide...
Congrats! Just keep in mind some of those targets are representative and some aren't... They're just CZ employees shooting two handed on a "Y" shaped rest. When we all get good ones we get excited, but there's still human error involved and it could just be a hung over employee putting up 4" groups that morning. My classic 75 Compact had a pretty crappy test target compared to pics on here, but I can hit a 5" square target at 75 yards with it.
Have fun with making it your own! There's lots of tutorials on the forum, but always feel free to ask questions if you need anything! Oh and I'm almost certain CZ Custom would mill that for ya. Cajun Gun Works too. There's some other shops I have heard that do it but I can't remember off the top of my head who they were.
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I tried pretending I was Stuart over at CZ Custom again (but I'm far from, he has a serious gift!!). I'm really stoked to get out and shoot this thing once I have it all worked over and converted!!
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Twins! Good job on the pics too! 8)
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Well... I did it! Next year I can only hope for a good tax return so I can actually buy bullets... But I got my second SP-01 Compact!
This is going to be the pistol I hand down to my little girl/teach her with. That being the case I had to order these grips just for her. i.e. This is THE "Scarlett Pistol".
Got the Tactical Sport right hand safety "fitted" today. In the coming week I'll clean off all the nasty grease that comes caked with. Then I'll have the usual polishing and upgrades. This one will be a SAO like my 75 Classic Compact. One of the pics has all the parts I ordered. I tried pretending I was Stuart over at CZ Custom again (but I'm far from, he has a serious gift!!). I'm really stoked to get out and shoot this thing once I have it all worked over and converted!!
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Scarlett
You are not helping my wallet. After reading one of your first post I ordered my SP01 Compact. So last week my son go's to the range with me and shoots my SP-01 c and says to really likes it. So i have been trying not to ordered a 2nd one. Then you make this post!
If you bought one for your daughter, it only seems right for me to purchase one for my son! LOL
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PS - I've tried admitting I have a CZ problem. I'm only 4 deep now, but that whole "admitting you have a problem is the first step" saying is no good. It just makes me further accept I love shooting CZ's!
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You are not helping my wallet. After reading one of your first post I ordered my SP01 Compact. So last week my son go's to the range with me and shoots my SP-01 c and says to really likes it. So i have been trying not to ordered a 2nd one. Then you make this post!
If you bought one for your daughter, it only seems right for me to purchase one for my son! LOL
I better not mention how ecstatic she was when I showed it to her, and now she can't stop telling my wife about it. :) She even watched over me while I took these pictures to make sure daddy was safe with her "shooting gun". I'm sure, since your son is already old enough to shoot with you, it would only be that much more meaningful to him. My first guns came from my grandfather. He taught me how to shoot, hunt, fly, fish, and work crazy hard. I'll never sell those guns because they carry a lifetime of memories and bear reminders of his legacy. I wish your bank account luck... But the memories and experiences with your son will surely pay more returns than the bank (no matter which pistol you get him).
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I ordered new Dawson sights for mine Friday night. Can't wait to put them on and try them out.
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I ordered new Dawson sights for mine Friday night. Can't wait to put them on and try them out.
Definitely share once you try them out! I haven't done sights on mine, and I'm patiently waiting to see what I'll do.
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Anyone try the low profile adjustable rear from Cajun?
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I will let you all know how they work out when I get them. I ordered the set that has the .240" tall rear sight (same as the stock ones it looks like) with the .150" tall front sight. Mine is shooting about 10" high at 25 yards so the .150" tall front sight should bring it down some. The stock front sight measures .125" or so with a steel machinist rule.
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I chose the "carry" P01 sights F/O front with .135" wide rear notch to try as well from Dawson, before I send this one off to CZC to be milled for Heinie Ledge sights if the dawson set doesn't work out for me. They look really nicely done, so we'll see when they get here!
scarlett,
Looking forward to your SAO conversion on this one, as i'm thinking that is what is going to be done with my compact as well... trying to decide...
I will let you all know how they work out when I get them. I ordered the set that has the .240" tall rear sight (same as the stock ones it looks like) with the .150" tall front sight. Mine is shooting about 10" high at 25 yards so the .150" tall front sight should bring it down some. The stock front sight measures .125" or so with a steel machinist rule.
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I must be the odd man out. I like the stock rubber grips for it's width. Same when I had a matte stainless 75B. I don't have big hands, but I just don't like thin grips. Then again, I also like the Beretta 92 grip that most people consider fat.
I'll be trying the Dawson P-01 carry set.
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Saw two of these today at the local gun show. I wanted one real bad but walked away. I need (right, need) a standard Compact for my project and I can see no need to buy one of these and then start modifying it. Besides the 85 doesn't have a light/laser rail anyway.
Darn. They looked nice, too. Sort of like a steel framed P01.
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Scarlett Pistol,
Would you mind posting a link to where you purchased those red grips? I've been looking for a nice set, those look fantastic. Also, when ordering parts in general should I order parts/holsters for a P-01?
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I'm not Scarlett but I can tell you where the grips are from. They come in four colors red, black , silver and blue. I've been looking at a set of the blue ones for my SP-01 compact as well. Follow the link and search for grips.
http://shop.cz-usa.com/
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I'm not Scarlett but I can trll you where the grips are from. They come in four colors red, black , silver and blue. I've been looking at a set of the blue ones for my SP-01 compact as well. Follow the link and search for grips.
http://shop.cz-usa.com/
Great, thanks. FYI site states CZ-USA will be closed from 12/21/16 - 01/02/17. Anything purchased after 12/20/16 ship on 01/03/17.
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Scarlett Pistol,
Would you mind posting a link to where you purchased those red grips? I've been looking for a nice set, those look fantastic. Also, when ordering parts in general should I order parts/holsters for a P-01?
Thanks Jim! Slide stop is P-01, grips are compact, safety is unique but you can get the tactical sport safety. Everything else are normal safety model parts. Does that make sense at all? You are welcome to PM me with any questions on specifics. Oh and here's the exact link to the grips.
http://shop.cz-usa.com/ProductDetail/19143_Aluminum-Grips-Compact-Red-Czub
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Slide stop is in need of a grinder to fit my holster (for P01 Garrett Silent Thunder STX 2.0). It goes it but it frags on the slife stop. If I grind this down a bit all is well.
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Scarlett Pistol,
Would you mind posting a link to where you purchased those red grips? I've been looking for a nice set, those look fantastic. Also, when ordering parts in general should I order parts/holsters for a P-01?
Thanks Jim! Slide stop is P-01, grips are compact, safety is unique but you can get the tactical sport safety. Everything else are normal safety model parts. Does that make sense at all? You are welcome to PM me with any questions on specifics. Oh and here's the exact link to the grips.
http://shop.cz-usa.com/ProductDetail/19143_Aluminum-Grips-Compact-Red-Czub
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Awesome, thanks. I went ahead and ordered the grips and the ts safety. Now the dreaded wait.
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My first CZ!
Shipping was fast, and picked up this past Saturday and took it the range on Sunday.
All I can say is Wow! Put 200rds through it, great groupings, POI was to the left, but will be adding some sights. Finish and performance just oozes quality!
Reading all I can on what I need to do to get that nice trigger. Shot a friends Shadow, P-01, and Scorpion and all had goodies done by CGW. After shooting those fine pieces it was time to start looking into these CZ and acquiring one (or a few).
Time to make a holster and buy some more ammo.
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Scarlett, those red grips really pop on that gun. It's amazing how something as small as changing the grips can change the entire presentation of a firearm. Great pictures, thanks for sharing.
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Scarlett, those red grips really pop on that gun. It's amazing how something as small as changing the grips can change the entire presentation of a firearm. Great pictures, thanks for sharing.
I was surprised too. I love the black grips on my first two CZ's, but these definitely make a bigger difference! Thanks!
My first CZ!
Shipping was fast, and picked up this past Saturday and took it the range on Sunday.
All I can say is Wow! Put 200rds through it, great groupings, POI was to the left, but will be adding some sights. Finish and performance just oozes quality!
Congrats and welcome! Ask any questions, we're happy to help!
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CZ Customs has 100 of them in stock. I was there visiting today and Stuart is thinking about ways to add the custom shop touch. It will be interesting to see what he comes up with I would watch their website to see what comes up in the near future
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He can sell a owb/iwb that works well with it that they endorse.
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I finally picked mine up today and went to the range tonight. Only shot 100 rounds of fmj and 10 hp (just to see how she'd do - I knew it was too early). This pistol feels like I've had it all along; great shooter, natural pointer, and the weight makes it well balanced in my hand. Loved everything about it except for the sights. They're going soon...
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CZ Customs has 100 of them in stock. I was there visiting today and Stuart is thinking about ways to add the custom shop touch. It will be interesting to see what he comes up with I would watch their website to see what comes up in the near future
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This will be awesome!
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MrGunDealer add to cart shows 291 currently remain available... Just fyi.
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That's odd. I thought the dealers selling these all provided a live count. I ordered mine from anacortes gun shop, they show 1 available. When I ordered mine I think it was at 32X.
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Stuart told me CZ made an additional 500 of these but CZ Custom only decided to bring in 100 of the second batch.
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Stuart told me CZ made an additional 500 of these but CZ Custom only decided to bring in 100 of the second batch.
So that means 600 total...
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These guns are showing for sale at a lot more places now according to Wikiarms
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Stuart told me CZ made an additional 500 of these but CZ Custom only decided to bring in 100 of the second batch.
So that means 600 total...
If the first run was 500 and the second run was an additional 500 is that not 1000 total units?
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Stuart told me CZ made an additional 500 of these but CZ Custom only decided to bring in 100 of the second batch.
So that means 600 total...
If the first run was 500 and the second run was an additional 500 is that not 1000 total units?
Yeah, I just thought that meant that of the second batch of 500 CZ Custom only brought in 100 to the U.S. So, stateside we have 600. But, that could just be my misunderstanding and CZ USA took the other 400...? Bill Hicks (the distributor who got all of the first batch of 500) shows 208 left. So, I am left to assume he didn't get any from the second batch.
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Got mine last night! bleep you guys.. You've got me thinking about grabbing another one, ha
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Got mine last night! bleep you guys.. You've got me thinking about grabbing another one, ha
Just wait till you throw a race or competition hammer in there and Polish it up... You'll need another one to convert to single action only or put a red dot on, or... Well, you get the picture.
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Got mine last night! bleep you guys.. You've got me thinking about grabbing another one, ha
Just wait till you throw a race or competition hammer in there and Polish it up... You'll need another one to convert to single action only or put a red dot on, or... Well, you get the picture.
I've been VERY tempted to pick up a second one of these, but then I remember the Accu-Compact I have on order.
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You guys are enablers. I've got one and like it a lot. I'd probably actually be more tempted by another P 01 omega because they are so perfect for double stack carry. And because you can't find any, it keeps more cash in my pocket.
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My google-fu is weak today, links to where these delightful items are sitting?
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rcoastie.. Budsgunshop.com
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My google-fu is weak today, links to where these delightful items are sitting?
Do you mean the hammers? If so...
Cajun Gun Works race hammer
https://cajungunworks.com/product/manual-safety-blue-steel-hammer/
CZ Custom Competition Hammer
http://czcustom.com/cz-parts-all/fire-control/cz-sa-da-sa-only-competition-hammer.html
If the SP-01 Compact then here... Use that number to find it elsewhere.
http://www.mrgundealer.com/product.cz-usa-75-compact-9mm-rail-steel-frame-manual-safe-39
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You guys are a bunch of trouble makers! Just got mine the other day (because I saw this thread). I gotta say I like mine fine just as it is - no need to spend more money on this fine pistol when there are so many more CZ's to get. Thanks for the heads up on this one - the forum rocks! Oh, and by the way my test pattern was awesome- maybe should have a battle of the best patterns just for fun!
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Cz custom
So since you're in here...
What sights do you suggest for this pistol for concealed carry ?
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They are making their way to LGS's. I'm looking at this one right now
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Late to tthis party, but still got to play.
LGS owner phoned me yesterday that he knew I liked CZs and he has just received two interesting ones.
Never heard of them, but wow, what a nice handful.
Read all 33 pages of this thread last night and decided to go for it.
Had to give up a poly striker 9 to do the deal (Christmastime, after all).
He had 2 guns, so I asked to see the test targets, and chose the nicer of the 2:
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Christmas came early!
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I'm so very tempted... it's funny how a limited production (What's the updated count? 600 units in the US out of 1,000 produced?) has found it's way across the country (listed on so many sites and in LGS), but you can't find the "mass" production CZ75 compacts so easily (P-01, P-06, etc.)... decisions, decisions!
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I'm so very tempted... it's funny how a limited production (What's the updated count? 600 units in the US out of 1,000 produced?) has found it's way across the country (listed on so many sites and in LGS), but you can't find the "mass" production CZ75 compacts so easily (P-01, P-06, etc.)... decisions, decisions!
It all depends on what the elves pack onto Santa's sleigh [emoji3]
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Cz custom
So since you're in here...
What sights do you suggest for this pistol for concealed carry ?
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I like our short tactical and tritium front. it a nice clean package, easy to see.
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Do any sights for CZ75 fit these? The sights on this thing are horrible, and my wife is having a terrible time with them. She loves the gun but hates the sights.
Very limited selection for CZ 75 sights as it is. Seems like FO's are almost as expensive as tritiums for this gun.
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Do any sights for CZ75 fit these? The sights on this thing are horrible, and my wife is having a terrible time with them. She loves the gun but hates the sights.
Very limited selection for CZ 75 sights as it is. Seems like FO's are almost as expensive as tritiums for this gun.
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Try a FO front only. That is what I run on most of mine and really like it.
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Glad this came up... what height/size FO front works with the stock rear?
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Have them here too.
https://www.k-var.com/shop/CZ-P01-9-BLACK-14-STEEL-99021.html
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Glad this came up... what height/size FO front works with the stock rear?
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https://cajungunworks.com/product/050-390-correct-oem-fo-front-sight/
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Glad this came up... what height/size FO front works with the stock rear?
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https://cajungunworks.com/product/050-390-correct-oem-fo-front-sight/
EXCELLENT! I'd looked at those before but forgot about them. Thanks!
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The rear sight is what totally sucks to be honest.
They need to be replaced as a set. Its hard to believe that this is the best they can put on these guns. It seems to be the exact same style that is on my CZ82.
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The rear sight is what totally sucks to be honest.
They need to be replaced as a set. Its hard to believe that this is the best they can put on these guns. It seems to be the exact same style that is on my CZ82.
I would black out the rear dots and focus on the front. That works well for me.
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Cz custom
So since you're in here...
What sights do you suggest for this pistol for concealed carry ?
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I like our short tactical and tritium front. it a nice clean package, easy to see.
Okay awesome thank you, I was debating the short tactical and the gold Dot front so I wasn't far off.
Thanks I will order once I return from my trip
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I put the Dawson carry sights on mine last night. Now I just need to find the time to test them out.
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I put the Dawson carry sights on mine last night. Now I just need to find the time to test them out.
Fo front and rear? Didn't know Dawson had a carry set.
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I put the Dawson carry sights on mine last night. Now I just need to find the time to test them out.
Fo front and rear? Didn't know Dawson had a carry set.
Not fiber optic. Black front and rear. Item 310-218 - .240 Tall rear with .135 wide aperture and .150 tall front by .100 wide.
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Thanks for the info.
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Shot my SP01 Compact with the new Dawson sights today. Very much improved over stock sights. The slightly taller front sight (.135" stock to .150" tall Dawson) brought the point of impact down nicely. Shooting about three inches above point of aim at 25 yards - just like I like it for a 6 O'clock hold. (was shooting 10-12" high at 25 yards with stock sights). I got lucky with the install since the horizontal side-to-side aim seems to be pretty much right on. Very satisfied with the look and performance of the Dawson sights.
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Thanks for the info.
Reply #437 by Warrior on page 30 of this post shows a picture of the sights I got installed on the SP01 Compact. That's where I found out about them. I like that the rear has a nice ledge for one-handed racking off your pants or some other object like a table or something in an emergency where your other arm is out of action. I don't care for fiber optic on a carry gun, which can break and cause a momentary mental incongruence that could delay reaction time just enough to cause one to come in second place in a gun fight. I just paint the front sight bright orange. Of course neither will help at night.
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can you give a model or item number for those dawson sights??
Sure: SKU: 310-218
https://dawsonprecision.com/dawson-precision-cz-p-01-carry-fixed-sight-set-black-rear-black-front/
Thanks for posting the link for these sights Warrior. I bought them and they are great for my purposes.
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They can sell any CZ they make in the US. So if they have a over run or if some group decides to to cancel their order. CZ will just ship it to the US.
My LGS got in a couple of hard to find CZ. They made a phone call and they were sold 30 minutes later. More and more folks are now looking for the CZ. My LGS is a Sig distributors. However, there were 5 of us standing and discussing which LGS had which CZ available.
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Fwiw my LGS got in more of the 99021 and also the 99033 (P-01 that's says CZ75 Compact on slide)
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So far have about 350 rds through the SP-01 Compact. Looking to upgrade the sights, will shoot another 200 rds through it just to be sure. Then will have to look into doing those modifications that Scarlett Pistol did with the write up, which was truly awesome. First I'll build me a nice OWB holster :)
Already such a list for this beauty!
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I've got over 1200 trouble free rounds through mine. Timr to put it in the carry rotation.
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I've been fondling one of these down at the LGS and think I'm just going to have to grab it while I can. I have a P01 as well as a Compact 75B and think that this will fit nicely between the two. I used to have an Armalite AR-24K and liked that a lot except for the inability to find upgrades for any part of it. The SP01 Compact is like getting that gun back, but with all of the standard parts that can be swapped for CGW parts as needed. Heck, I'm not sure why I've waited this long. Need to go shopping this weekend.
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Just fyi -- Mr Gun Dealer total add to cart is at 149... Probably about a month left in these remaining in stock if you want one. Though once they get below 100 remaining, it may become a fire sale.
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So I slapped a holster together, as I wanted to see how it felt on the belt with the weight. It actually felt good and that was just with an everyday belt, still looking for an EDC belt that I like. Weight didn't really bother me, although I didn't wear it for a long period. Will take it to the range if the weather ever warms up and put it through it's paces with OWB holster. Just need to get the mag x2 carrier built and I'm good to go for one upcoming pistol courses. Although depending on the weather might already have the hybrid IWB up and running by then and can practice with that holster.
I know that it has replaced my XDM that was going to be my CCW, and that was pretty much the first day I shot it. I even brought the XDM but didn't even fire it that day. I'm glad my friend let me shoot his CZz...but then kinda not cause now I want to buy another on also :)
Holster done, now to decide on what sights...trigger...grips...finally found a keeper I want to actually do something with!
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Holster and pistol look nice.
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Nice holster! Sounds like these are holding up really well for everyone. I need to put pics of my 2nd at the range now that the upgrades are done.
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hey guys, first post here from Chicago
I just ordered one of these as my first pistol, I'll post pics when it arrives
Never even held a CZ but by doing some research around here I was drawn to this model... I prefer a manual safety and like the idea of a heavier, smoother shooting gun
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hey guys, first post here from Chicago
I just ordered one of these as my first pistol, I'll post pics when it arrives
Never even held a CZ but by doing some research around here I was drawn to this model... I prefer a manual safety and like the idea of a heavier, smoother shooting gun
Wow that's awesome! Keep us posted and feel free to ask any and all questions you may have.
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Has anyone been carrying this IWB? Would love to hear a report about the weight. I'm probably gonna grab one this week anyway but I would really like to make it my main carry gun. Almost had a p-01 omega to save some weight but it fell through.
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Has anyone been carrying this IWB? Would love to hear a report about the weight. I'm probably gonna grab one this week anyway but I would really like to make it my main carry gun. Almost had a p-01 omega to save some weight but it fell through.
I have been trying appendix. The weight hasn't bothered me. I just hate iwb carry with any gun.
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What holster have you been using?
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What holster have you been using?
I got a new AIWB stealth gear holster. Just can't get it to work like e rayon else seems to get appendix to work. Tried all the other spots, just not functional for me working a desk job all day.
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Buddy just got a alexandryandesign appendix holster for his g19 w/ surefire and rmr. Loves it. Pretty nice and they do cz. I usually carry small of back around 4 o clock. Thinking appendix would probably be easier on my back.
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Is that the P01 slide stop or the SP01 compact slide stop?
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Buddy just got a alexandryandesign appendix holster for his g19 w/ surefire and rmr. Loves it. Pretty nice and they do cz. I usually carry small of back around 4 o clock. Thinking appendix would probably be easier on my back.
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I have only carried appendix and wouldn't consider anything else. Honestly, if you wear your pants a bit loose, it is very comfortable. Sitting down is comfortable too as long as you're not packing something with a 5" barrel. I also think that is easier and quicker to draw from this position.
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What holster have you been using?
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I highly recommend a n82 tactical original iwb holster. I was opposed to iwb carry before, due to how uncomfortable it was for me. This thing is great! The part that comes in contact with your body is suede, the other side is leather. When sitting for short periods, I cant it and it feels fine. Cost was $39.99 plus tax at a lgs. I meant to post a picture the other day. If you guys would like any other pics of the holster please let me know. https://imgur.com/a/KHlM2
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Are you guys that have been carrying this finding the weight to be manageable for IWB?
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Are you guys that have been carrying this finding the weight to be manageable for IWB?
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In my experience thus far, I would say it depends on the holster. I purchased a neoprene blackhawk holster before the one previously mentioned and it was pretty terrible. The pistol is so heavy it bends the plastic clip that holds the holster up. It also doesn't completely cover the beaver tail let alone the grip. In the new holster it feels great.
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The 75c w/, rail is a little on the heavy side, comparable to the 75c. I'm using a holster from Rawdog tactical for the P01, which needed some spacers to make it fit. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170109/b4dd4bd7ec2a5bf6cd22226194ac2fc7.jpg)
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Are you guys that have been carrying this finding the weight to be manageable for IWB?
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In my experience thus far, I would say it depends on the holster. I purchased a neoprene blackhawk holster before the one previously mentioned and it was pretty terrible. The pistol is so heavy it bends the plastic clip that holds the holster up. It also doesn't completely cover the beaver tail let alone the grip. In the new holster it feels great.
What's the new holster?
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The 75c w/, rail is a little on the heavy side, comparable to the 75c. I'm using a holster from Rawdog tactical for the P01, which needed some spacers to make it fit. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170109/b4dd4bd7ec2a5bf6cd22226194ac2fc7.jpg)
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That looks good. Did you just add spacers in between the kydex and then tighten down?
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Thank you,...Yes, it needed the spacers on all 5 screws, had to get the extra hardware from Rawdog, they sent it quick and free of charge.
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Are you guys that have been carrying this finding the weight to be manageable for IWB?
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In my experience thus far, I would say it depends on the holster. I purchased a neoprene blackhawk holster before the one previously mentioned and it was pretty terrible. The pistol is so heavy it bends the plastic clip that holds the holster up. It also doesn't completely cover the beaver tail let alone the grip. In the new holster it feels great.
What's the new holster?
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The new one is the n82 tactical original iwb holster. https://imgur.com/a/KHlM2
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I highly recommend a n82 tactical original iwb holster. I was opposed to iwb carry before, due to how uncomfortable it was for me. This thing is great! The part that comes in contact with your body is suede, the other side is leather. When sitting for short periods, I cant it and it feels fine. Cost was $39.99 plus tax at a lgs. I meant to post a picture the other day. If you guys would like any other pics of the holster please let me know. https://imgur.com/a/KHlM2
How much trigger protection does that holster provide? If it's only a single layer of elastic covering the trigger I'd be a little worried that the trigger could be pulled through the elastic. Hopefully it's leather or plastic covered by elastic.
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That protruding slide stop is the Steel P01 (needs a file and cold blue) sticks out too far.
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I highly recommend a n82 tactical original iwb holster. I was opposed to iwb carry before, due to how uncomfortable it was for me. This thing is great! The part that comes in contact with your body is suede, the other side is leather. When sitting for short periods, I cant it and it feels fine. Cost was $39.99 plus tax at a lgs. I meant to post a picture the other day. If you guys would like any other pics of the holster please let me know. https://imgur.com/a/KHlM2
How much trigger protection does that holster provide? If it's only a single layer of elastic covering the trigger I'd be a little worried that the trigger could be pulled through the elastic. Hopefully it's leather or plastic covered by elastic.
I had the same concern, but the elastic is too thick and very tight. I tried to pull the trigger while test fitting the pistol in SA & DA but couldn't. I had been eyeing the holster online, but I had to test the trigger guard myself before I felt comfortable enough to carry with it.
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Good to know. The idea of one IWB holster that will fit several of my pistols is very interesting.
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Anybody besides Texas_Faithful carrying this tank? I'm trying to decide between this and the PCR. I'd rather stay with a manual safety if possible and keep my platforms consistent. I'm just worried those is too heavy to carry daily.
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Carry mine , iwb , it's not too heavy. I've been carrying a 75c for the past 6 mo, they are very similar in weight, so it pretty much feels the same for me.
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Carry mine , iwb , it's not too heavy. I've been carrying a 75c for the past 6 mo, they are very similar in weight, so it pretty much feels the same for me.
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Great - thank you for the response.
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I just started carrying mine a couple of days ago. I also have a P01 and when carried, I can feel the difference, but not in a bad way. I carry OWB in a Kramer scabbard done in horsehide. With a good belt, the chunky little gun carries quite well.
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I just started carrying mine a couple of days ago. I also have a P01 and when carried, I can feel the difference, but not in a bad way. I carry OWB in a Kramer scabbard done in horsehide. With a good belt, the chunky little gun carries quite well.
Liberty Civil Defense 50gr +p lightens them up.
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Liberty Civil Defense 50gr +p lightens them up.
Those look pretty interesting!
I just started carrying mine a couple of days ago. I also have a P01 and when carried, I can feel the difference, but not in a bad way. I carry OWB in a Kramer scabbard done in horsehide. With a good belt, the chunky little gun carries quite well.
The more I have been carrying mine AIWB the more I am surprised by how comfortable it is. Good belt and holter sure make it realistic. Sure, for those coming from carrying a single stack polymer pistol it would feel heavier, but I really don't feel like its bad at all.
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I just started carrying mine a couple of days ago. I also have a P01 and when carried, I can feel the difference, but not in a bad way. I carry OWB in a Kramer scabbard done in horsehide. With a good belt, the chunky little gun carries quite well.
Liberty Civil Defense 50gr +p lightens them up.
I'm probably not helping the weight issue by carrying 147g HSTs
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I just started carrying mine a couple of days ago. I also have a P01 and when carried, I can feel the difference, but not in a bad way. I carry OWB in a Kramer scabbard done in horsehide. With a good belt, the chunky little gun carries quite well.
Liberty Civil Defense 50gr +p lightens them up.
It is a free country, but these lightweights are definitely not for me! IMHO (if weight is your concern) you'd be better off loading a magazine with only 5 147gr SD rounds (such as HST, Gold Dot, etc.) rather than a full magazine of this stuff. I'd much rather have a heavy weight bullet slow-poking through layers of clothes, bones, etc. to reach the vitals/stop the attack vrs. perhaps a hellacious flesh wound that doesn't. Try shooting a "clothed" pork shoulder roast with them and let me know if one of those fragments will even dent the bone. Sure the meat will likely look nasty but nasty won't necessarily stop an attack! Not trying to be jerk, here -- just hoping to save your life.
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I just started carrying mine a couple of days ago. I also have a P01 and when carried, I can feel the difference, but not in a bad way. I carry OWB in a Kramer scabbard done in horsehide. With a good belt, the chunky little gun carries quite well.
Liberty Civil Defense 50gr +p lightens them up.
I'm probably not helping the weight issue by carrying 147g HSTs
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First time I picked up a box, I thought it was empty... My P07 likes em. Haven't tried them in the "SP-01" Compact yet
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Hmmm...my lgs has a cz75d pcr in stock for $550. Tough deciding which to get but leaning toward the D.
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Hmmm...my lgs has a cz75d pcr in stock for $550. Tough deciding which to get but leaning toward the D.
Steve
Id grab a PCR at that price. Try to talk them down or include tax.
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Seriously thinking about it - these things (pcr) are hard to find.
Hmmm...my lgs has a cz75d pcr in stock for $550. Tough deciding which to get but leaning toward the D.
Steve
Id grab a PCR at that price. Try to talk them down or include tax.
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Seriously thinking about it - these things (pcr) are hard to find.
Hmmm...my lgs has a cz75d pcr in stock for $550. Tough deciding which to get but leaning toward the D.
Steve
Id grab a PCR at that price. Try to talk them down or include tax.
Just keep in mind your purpose. PCR's sound amazing for carry, but they aren't limited run. If you want a compact SP-01 these are a one time deal. You can't go wrong with either if it fits the bill for your intent.
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Good point - the sp-01 compact is a rare bird. Other than the steel frame and rail, what's the major difference between it and the pcr? Thanks again.
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Good point - the sp-01 compact is a rare bird. Other than the steel frame and rail, what's the major difference between it and the pcr? Thanks again.
Steve
It has the manual safety, that's the biggest thing. Different beavertail, but that's not the primary difference.
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just picked this up at my FFL today... then took it to the range and popped off 150 rounds... boy is she a sweet shooter
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Congratulations Bob!
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Congrats Bob!.. Love mine as well, what did you think of the sights?
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Did CZ produce a safety equipped, steel framed, railed compact in .40? It would essentially be the SP01 Compact, but in .40. I thought I had read about that somewhere.
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Indy_Tim, they did make a steel frame compact 40 with a safety. They have been discontinued for a while now.
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How limited are these? It seems that an awful lot of places are carrying them including some LGS in my area
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How limited are these? It seems that an awful lot of places are carrying them including some LGS in my area
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Also the number keeps fluctuating online. Seems many more than 500-600 are out there.
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Congrats Bob!.. Love mine as well, what did you think of the sights?
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Thanks guys.
Definitely gonna need new sights haha ... Not sure why they went with paint that looks like it's been there for 50 years
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How limited are these? It seems that an awful lot of places are carrying them including some LGS in my area
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Last I heard from CZ and CZ Custom 500 came in to the States and Bill Hicks took them all. From there they've been picked up by shops or are showing on their sites. Then CZ Custom got 100 more. I need to call CZ and see if that still stands.
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I was looking on Buds last night and they have 2 different prices for 99021. Same part # but different Buds internal part number
Price match is at 530
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I was looking on Buds last night and they have 2 different prices for 99021. Same part # but different Buds internal part number
Price match is at 530
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Just tried - I got a price match for $544
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I was looking on Buds last night and they have 2 different prices for 99021. Same part # but different Buds internal part number
Price match is at 530
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Just tried - I got a price match for $544
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Do a search for 99021. It will pull up 2 guns. They look identical other than Buds part #
Choose the less expensive one and offer 530. It will come back with 535 ( I misspoke above)
I'm not sure what difference is but....
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Just fyi -- Mr Gun Dealer total add to cart is at 149... Probably about a month left in these remaining in stock if you want one. Though once they get below 100 remaining, it may become a fire sale.
Reminder on link to sellers per Slickguns: https://www.slickguns.com/search/apachesolr_search/806703990217
Inventory remaining:
Mr Gun Dealer shows 175
Buds shows 121
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Not too rare:)
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Maybe not too rare, but such a sweet shooter. I really need to keep my eyes open for this gun in .40. That would make a fantastic carry gun for winter duty.
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Right?! Like a dirty egg shell color, just ordered some mepro tritium night sights.
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Maybe not too rare, but such a sweet shooter. I really need to keep my eyes open for this gun in .40. That would make a fantastic carry gun for winter duty.
You're in luck. One just popped up on Gunbroker today. Don't have the link handy but it came up in one of my searches.
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How limited are these? It seems that an awful lot of places are carrying them including some LGS in my area
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Last I heard from CZ and CZ Custom 500 came in to the States and Bill Hicks took them all. From there they've been picked up by shops or are showing on their sites. Then CZ Custom got 100 more. I need to call CZ and see if that still stands.
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Not sure how many of these were produced by CZ. If you read through this thread, these are either overages or result from a cancelled order from some custom military/police contract...
W/in the US AFAIK, there are no more than 1k...
The way most gun dealers work these days, especially in the online space, is that they build websites that tie into dealer inventory. Effectively the dealers websites are just a window into wholesaler inventory and all the guns are shipped from the same central warehouse regardless of who/where purchased... So online dealers just try to make 5-10% or so on every gun ordered.
That's why if you recall the last panic when cheaper than dirt got hammered for "jacking prices" and "cancelling orders" what was really happening was that their website backend was updating prices and inventory as fast as their suppliers where changing/increasing prices. So faced with a couple hundred dollar loss on each order vs bad pr, ctd chose bad pr and suffered a severe sales slump...
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Maybe not too rare, but such a sweet shooter. I really need to keep my eyes open for this gun in .40. That would make a fantastic carry gun for winter duty.
You're in luck. One just popped up on Gunbroker today. Don't have the link handy but it came up in one of my searches.
Thanks, I saw that one. I ended up making a deal on one right here on the CZFirearms site though. Once I get it, cajunize it and figure out what grips I want to go with, I'll post up photos. In the mean time, this is the 9mm SP01 Compact I picked up recently:
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Could you tell me what the width is on your SP01 Compact?
The Slide and Frame. PLEASE!
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Another one made it home, gun show buy. Soon to be cajunized into a sao, waiting on a delivery of cajun goodness. Haven't shot it with the lok palmswells but they sure feel fantastic(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r186/chiddly/Mobile%20Uploads/FullSizeR1_zpseewioeeq.jpg) (http://s144.photobucket.com/user/chiddly/media/Mobile%20Uploads/FullSizeR1_zpseewioeeq.jpg.html).
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For those who have both versions,how much heavier this compact feel versus regular compact without rail?
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For those who have both versions,how much heavier this compact feel versus regular compact without rail?
"Feel" is different because the weight distribution. If you've felt an SP-01, it just feels right between the classic Compact without the rail and the SP-01. The recoil impulse feels different to me, but I think that has to do with the different beavertail as well as the weight of the rail.
Someone posted official weights in this thread but my Tapatalk app does weird things causing duplicate posts being displayed, so it's hard to find when I'm on my phone.
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Made it to an indoor range to practice with 150 rounds. Warmed up with 2 mags and was pushing low left. Quick corrections on my focus and trigger pull. Then with my first SP-01 Compact I shot 2 more mags with 4 rounds each. The target was at 45 feet away, and my splits were about 0.5 seconds. These pistols are a joy to shoot, more accurate than me, and run like tanks!
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My friend wanted to learn to shoot pistols, so we went out this last fall. He loved my CZ's! When I got my SP-01 Compact he had his wife get him one for Christmas as his first pistol. She then had me Cajunize it to surprise him.
They came with me on this range trip for his second time shooting pistols and first time with his SP-01 Compact. We went over some fundamentals and I told him he could start at really close range. He just looked over to see where my target was and said "yeah... right, mine is going next to yours!" He didn't go rapid fire or anything, but his pace was about 1.5 second splits. He proceeded to do this with his new SP-01 Compact on his first magazines. He loved it! Blew me away how fast he internalized everything. Also evidence to take classes and learn the proper fundamentals before bad habits are learned (which I'm still fixing having made that mistake). Anyways, these are fantastic pistols!
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Another one made it home, gun show buy. Soon to be cajunized into a sao, waiting on a delivery of cajun goodness. Haven't shot it with the lok palmswells but they sure feel fantastic(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r186/chiddly/Mobile%20Uploads/FullSizeR1_zpseewioeeq.jpg) (http://s144.photobucket.com/user/chiddly/media/Mobile%20Uploads/FullSizeR1_zpseewioeeq.jpg.html).
That's not a knife, this is a knife! :)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170124/ba4508244c4157d7956baaceae6b142f.jpg)polished and spring kit. Love it!
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Ha nice knife and grips, I have a set on my pcr that are similar. The lok palmswells are very nice although a wee bit thicker. Shot both yesterday and couldn't pick a definitive winner on grips for me, although I think the quality is a touch higher on the loks.
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Ha nice knife and grips, I have a set on my pcr that are similar. The lok palmswells are very nice although a wee bit thicker. Shot both yesterday and couldn't pick a definitive winner on grips for me, although I think the quality is a touch higher on the loks.
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r186/chiddly/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_02251_zpsqdvhigoj.jpg) (http://s144.photobucket.com/user/chiddly/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_02251_zpsqdvhigoj.jpg.html)
How do the LOK's compare to the factory rubbers?
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Ha nice knife and grips, I have a set on my pcr that are similar. The lok palmswells are very nice although a wee bit thicker. Shot both yesterday and couldn't pick a definitive winner on grips for me, although I think the quality is a touch higher on the loks.
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How do the LOK's compare to the factory rubbers?
I have the LOK grips in the same black and red color on my SP-01 compact. Mine are their diamond pattern. I liked the factory rubber grips but the LOK's are awesome. Very thin and a great grip. Also the price and customer service is the best.
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The palmswells are the closest to the rubber that I have felt, maybe just a touch thicker with a different texture. Very nice indeed.
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The gentleman who I do all my transfers through asked me to convert his SP-01 Compact to SAO to be like his Colt 1911's. After we talked he wanted it to be a SAO Shadow with the CZC Competition Hammer, all the polishing, a red fiber optic front sight. It has a 15 lb main spring, reduced power firing pin spring, reduced power trigger return spring, and the other standard CGW goodies. He gets it tomorrow, and I'm almost sad to see it leave. Trigger feels about as close as I've gotten to a Tactical Sport.
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That's awesome. I have the same planned for mine, all the same parts except for curved tip sao trigger and cgw hammer. I have a 97 like this and it's fantastic. Amazing how sweet these can become. Great post you started on a very cool little gun.
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That's awesome. I have the same planned for mine, all the same parts except for curved tip sao trigger and cgw hammer. I have a 97 like this and it's fantastic. Amazing how sweet these can become. Great post you started on a very cool little gun.
Oooh, I'll bet that 97 is an incredible shooting pistol! You'll have to post pics of your SP-01 Compact when you have it all done and let us know how it shoots and feels. Thanks, glad it's helped some people!
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My SP01C is completely taken down right now for internal polishing. There's a bag full of CGW parts enroute for it and when done, will be at the Pro kit level. I didn't go with the actual Pro kit because I like the ring hammers better than the race hammer, so it was pieced together. The internal polishing is going well but still needs work in some areas. I really had mixed feelings about doing a CGW upgrade on this gun because the factory trigger was the best factory trigger I've felt of any of the 15 CZs I've had over the years.
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Ha nice knife and grips, I have a set on my pcr that are similar. The lok palmswells are very nice although a wee bit thicker. Shot both yesterday and couldn't pick a definitive winner on grips for me, although I think the quality is a touch higher on the loks.
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r186/chiddly/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_02251_zpsqdvhigoj.jpg) (http://s144.photobucket.com/user/chiddly/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_02251_zpsqdvhigoj.jpg.html)
Hey chiddly - do you ever see carrying this over your PCR? I'm torn on which one to get for my next CZ.
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Ha nice knife and grips, I have a set on my pcr that are similar. The lok palmswells are very nice although a wee bit thicker. Shot both yesterday and couldn't pick a definitive winner on grips for me, although I think the quality is a touch higher on the loks.
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r186/chiddly/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_02251_zpsqdvhigoj.jpg) (http://s144.photobucket.com/user/chiddly/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_02251_zpsqdvhigoj.jpg.html)
Hey chiddly - do you ever see carrying this over your PCR? I'm torn on which one to get for my next CZ.
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Not for me, I'm making the steel compact a sao fun gun. Hard to beat the pcr for carry.
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I've been switching between my SP01C and my P01 for carry. The SP01C is heavy, but not so much that it's a problem. It's only a couple of ounces heavier than a standard 75B compact and plenty of people carry those with no issues. What I end up carrying regularly will depend on what I shoot better at the range. Lately that's been a P07 but I think that the SP01C may take it's place in the carry routine once it's finished.
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My SP01C is completely taken down right now for internal polishing. There's a bag full of CGW parts enroute for it and when done, will be at the Pro kit level. I didn't go with the actual Pro kit because I like the ring hammers better than the race hammer, so it was pieced together. The internal polishing is going well but still needs work in some areas. I really had mixed feelings about doing a CGW upgrade on this gun because the factory trigger was the best factory trigger I've felt of any of the 15 CZs I've had over the years.
I did the CGW upgrades to my SP-01 compact but I also had the same mixed feelings. You are right about the factory trigger. I've carried and shot revolvers for years and the factory trigger in the SP01C was pretty good in comparison.
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I just put an order in with CZ custom. SP-01 Compact, plus trit sights, extended lhs safety, comp hammer. Should make for a great carry gun.
Scarlett Pistol, this is your fault.
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I just put an order in with CZ custom. SP-01 Compact, plus trit sights, extended lhs safety, comp hammer. Should make for a great carry gun.
Scarlett Pistol, this is your fault.
Nice! How much were there additions if you don't mind?
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I just put an order in with CZ custom. SP-01 Compact, plus trit sights, extended lhs safety, comp hammer. Should make for a great carry gun.
Scarlett Pistol, this is your fault.
Ha! Nice choice! Have em send the OEM safety to you. If you carry it there may be a small chance you want to swap to the slim one. I prefer the extended LH safety, but it's better to have and not need than to want and not have. Let us know how it is when you get it!
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I may or may not have just committed to buy one of these also...
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I may or may not have just committed to buy one of these also...
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Hahaha Congratulations!
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I may or may not have just committed to buy one of these also...
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Hahaha Congratulations!
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I couldn't resist anymore. I've been torn between this or the PCR. I love my full size SP-01 so much that I'd rather carry this even with the extra weight. That and in 6 months these won't be available anymore.
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I may or may not have just committed to buy one of these also...
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Hahaha Congratulations!
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I couldn't resist anymore. I've been torn between this or the PCR. I love my full size SP-01 so much that I'd rather carry this even with the extra weight. That and in 6 months these won't be available anymore.
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Yeah, that's my logic for getting a second one... I love my SP-01 and these won't be available forever. Fair warning, you'll probably get a PCR in the future. I thought 2 CZ's were enough. Now I have 4 and twice the happiness when I go shooting!
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I may or may not have just committed to buy one of these also...
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Hahaha Congratulations!
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I couldn't resist anymore. I've been torn between this or the PCR. I love my full size SP-01 so much that I'd rather carry this even with the extra weight. That and in 6 months these won't be available anymore.
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Yeah, that's my logic for getting a second one... I love my SP-01 and these won't be available forever. Fair warning, you'll probably get a PCR in the future. I thought 2 CZ's were enough. Now I have 4 and twice the happiness when I go shooting!
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I almost bought a PCR today also. No guarantee that I haven't yet...
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What holster have you been using?
I got a new AIWB stealth gear holster. Just can't get it to work like e rayon else seems to get appendix to work. Tried all the other spots, just not functional for me working a desk job all day.
Scarlett - have you become comfortable with the AIWB stealthgear? I have a stealthgear IWB that I use now, but thinking about AIWB going to this heavier pistol. I know my IWB is comfortable and almost disappears when I have it on.
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What holster have you been using?
I got a new AIWB stealth gear holster. Just can't get it to work like e rayon else seems to get appendix to work. Tried all the other spots, just not functional for me working a desk job all day.
Scarlett - have you become comfortable with the AIWB stealthgear? I have a stealthgear IWB that I use now, but thinking about AIWB going to this heavier pistol. I know my IWB is comfortable and almost disappears when I have it on.
I have! It took some playing with and getting used to but it is really nice now. Best part is the p-01 holster will hold the PCR too! [emoji48]
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So one of these is definitely on its way to me. I put a hold on the PCR purchase and will dedicate myself to this for a while. Now to decide on an edc holster...
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Cant wait to get my 2 sp01 compacts back from cgw. 1 carry 1 range only. Both with all the cajun magic!
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Cant wait to get my 2 sp01 compacts back from cgw. 1 carry 1 range only. Both with all the cajun magic!
Looking forward to photos and range reports when you get those back! Assume that each was done slightly differently for its intended purpose?
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Apologize if this was already adddressed, but I've read all 40+ pages of this thread over the last two weeks and don't recall seeing an answer ...
There two different prices for this pistol at mrgundealer.com. Is there a difference between this one at $515:
http://www.mrgundealer.com/product.cz-usa-99021-cz-75-compact-9mm-rail-steel-frame-manual-safety-806703990217-1047
and this one listed at $527?
http://www.mrgundealer.com/product.cz-usa-75-compact-9mm-rail-steel-frame-manual-safe-39
They have different product IDs, but the same UPC# (806703990217)
Strongly considering buying one of these as a back-up for my SP01 Shadow/semi-dedicated Kadet gun/occasional carry.
Lastly, are we still sure this is a limited run? Several reports of people finding them at LGS, and now I see them listed on czcustom.com as "factory pistols" with no mention of them being limited.
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Apologize if this was already adddressed, but I've read all 40+ pages of this thread over the last two weeks and don't recall seeing an answer ...
There two different prices for this pistol at mrgundealer.com. Is there a difference between this one at $515:
http://www.mrgundealer.com/product.cz-usa-99021-cz-75-compact-9mm-rail-steel-frame-manual-safety-806703990217-1047
and this one listed at $527?
http://www.mrgundealer.com/product.cz-usa-75-compact-9mm-rail-steel-frame-manual-safe-39
They have different product IDs, but the same UPC# (806703990217)
Strongly considering buying one of these as a back-up for my SP01 Shadow/semi-dedicated Kadet gun/occasional carry.
Lastly, are we still sure this is a limited run? Several reports of people finding them at LGS, and now I see them listed on czcustom.com as "factory pistols" with no mention of them being limited.
When Stuart mentioned that they got 100 of these there were supposedly 500 more that were left from the big batch that was not taken by the original client that requested them. So, that meant CZ USA brought in the first batch of 500 and Bill Hicks took them. This second batch meant a total of 1,000, but CZ Custom only took 100, thereby putting us at 600 total in country.
Now, that link at Mr Gun Dealer for $515 is new, I hadn't seen that before. They say they bought them in bulk and are passing on some savings. I would give them a call or call CZ USA and see if the 400 that CZ Custom did not import were still brought in to the country and other shops and distributors picked them up. I'll try and call Monday to verify. That's a pretty stupid good price for an all steel CZ. If we saw the P-01 Omegas show up for that good of a deal I'm sure they would go like hot cakes. Anyways, I have my suspicions CZ USA brought in all of the second batch and we have 1,000 stateside now. But, unless CZ UB decided to resume production of this design these are still limited run, as they were produced for a client who didn't take delivery. It just looks like we are getting all of those pistols stateside.
Baldrage, Mr Gun Dealer responds to email pretty quickly on weekdays. You can shoot them an email and they should verify, but that first link just looks like they have those in house rather than drop shipping from Bill Hicks. If you do order through them remember that they won't ship until your FFL sends a copy of their license to them. Get that over to Mr Gun Dealer ASAP and your pistol should ship pretty quick (especially since they have them in house now).
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On Gunbroker, Sportsmans Supply has been selling quite a few of these steel framed models.
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I was wondering the same... two weeks ago they (Mr. Gun Dealer) only had the 2nd listing ($527), but it was actually lower at $511 for a couple of weeks... they just raised it to $527...
My first guess is that someone screwed up and added the same item to the site (same UPC), but when they add it, a new product ID/number was assigned to the item.
Both listing descriptions are identical... steel frame... 14-rounds...
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Question for you guys that have changed sights. Are P01 sights the ones that fit this?
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Question for you guys that have changed sights. Are P01 sights the ones that fit this?
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I installed this on the last one I worked on. Standard front sight.
https://cajungunworks.com/product/050-390-correct-oem-fo-front-sight/
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Question for you guys that have changed sights. Are P01 sights the ones that fit this?
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Its a steel framed P01, it isn't a "compact SP-01". So yes...
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Question for you guys that have changed sights. Are P01 sights the ones that fit this?
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Its a steel framed P01, it isn't a "compact SP-01". So yes...
Have you seen P01's with that beavertail? If so please enlighten us.
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Question for you guys that have changed sights. Are P01 sights the ones that fit this?
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I installed this on the last one I worked on. Standard front sight.
https://cajungunworks.com/product/050-390-correct-oem-fo-front-sight/
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Thank you Scarlett
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Question for you guys that have changed sights. Are P01 sights the ones that fit this?
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Its a steel framed P01, it isn't a "compact SP-01". So yes...
Have you seen P01's with that beavertail? If so please enlighten us.
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Good point. Well the slide is a P01 at least.
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I just put an order in with CZ custom. SP-01 Compact, plus trit sights, extended lhs safety, comp hammer. Should make for a great carry gun.
Scarlett Pistol, this is your fault.
Nice! How much were there additions if you don't mind?
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Too much, lol. $450 + $40 shipping.
The guys cajunizing on their own probably got off much cheaper, but this is my first metal CZ and it seems a bit more complicated than my old Glock or 10/22. Since I'm actually going to carry it, I forked up the cash to have it done right.
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I just put an order in with CZ custom. SP-01 Compact, plus trit sights, extended lhs safety, comp hammer. Should make for a great carry gun.
Scarlett Pistol, this is your fault.
Nice! How much were there additions if you don't mind?
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Too much, lol. $450 + $40 shipping.
The guys cajunizing on their own probably got off much cheaper, but this is my first metal CZ and it seems a bit more complicated than my old Glock or 10/22. Since I'm actually going to carry it, I forked up the cash to have it done right.
A wise decision! I won't mess with any of my defense firearms. I don't trust myself...
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Side note, I recorded and have been editing and uploading tutorial videos for manual safety CZ's. The Playlist is private right now since it is not done yet. You guys can check it out here...
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXTbIrAR76i20MrrKs45HbEgP3dwnE0MK
I have a thread in the gunsmithing section asking for feedback. Jump over there if I missed something or for any other feedback (e.g. I had them in the pets category this weekend...).
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=85431.0
Hope these help people out, so they avoid the learning curve I went through. It just so happens that the pistols in the videos are these SP-01 Compacts.
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Scarlett,
Awesome videos. Thank you very much for putting the time and effort in to make those. I am a tinkerer, so I'm sure I'll be using them soon for my SP-01 Compact.
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Scarlett,
Awesome videos. Thank you very much for putting the time and effort in to make those. I am a tinkerer, so I'm sure I'll be using them soon for my SP-01 Compact.
I agree. A very valuable resource that I'll eventually take advantage of. Working on guns is something I've never done, but I'm very handy at everything else. I'd love to give my CZ's some personal attention.
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Thank you scarlett!
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By the end of the week everything should be in the Playlist. Hope it helps and I wish I had a better camera.
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Side note, I recorded and have been editing and uploading tutorial videos for manual safety CZ's. The Playlist is private right now since it is not done yet. You guys can check it out here...
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXTbIrAR76i20MrrKs45HbEgP3dwnE0MK
I have a thread in the gunsmithing section asking for feedback. Jump over there if I missed something or for any other feedback (e.g. I had them in the pets category this weekend...).
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=85431.0
Hope these help people out, so they avoid the learning curve I went through. It just so happens that the pistols in the videos are these SP-01 Compacts.
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Thanks for doing those videos SR! I like how you do them in small segments instead of one 30 minute video. Nicely done.
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Cant wait to get my 2 sp01 compacts back from cgw. 1 carry 1 range only. Both with all the cajun magic!
Looking forward to photos and range reports when you get those back! Assume that each was done slightly differently for its intended purpose?
Yes sir! One range only and comp gun. One badass carry gun
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Cant wait to get my 2 sp01 compacts back from cgw. 1 carry 1 range only. Both with all the cajun magic!
Looking forward to photos and range reports when you get those back! Assume that each was done slightly differently for its intended purpose?
Yes sir! One range only and comp gun. One badass carry gun
Whew, I'm excited to see em and hear how the do. I love carrying mine! It rotates with my CZ 75 classic Compact SAO.
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I like this pistol, but it's way too heavy (and wide) for me to be comfortable carrying it. One thing's for sure, if you carry it you won't forget it's there. Sure feels great in the hands though.
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Well my buddy and I got the little tank cajunized and converted over to SAO. I have to say I'm very pleased, we both think it shoots fantastic. It is a very soft shooting compact built like a tank. Here it is with a couple of it's SAO buddies....
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Very nice!
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Well this thread certainly turned me on to the 99021. One should be home by next Monday. What made me so interested the SP01 is this Forum. The friendly advice from the members, the support from CZCustom and CGW is fantastic and thank you Scarlett for your significant contribution. Now I need to decide if I should get the Ultra Lite Kit, and or the SRS kit and numerous spare pins and springs. My second phase will be the hammer and adjustable sear. I hope my gun's serial number ends in 999. I already have a gun that end in 666.
Chris
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Well this thread certainly turned me on to the 99021. One should be home by next Monday. What made me so interested the SP01 is this Forum. The friendly advice from the members, the support from CZCustom and CGW is fantastic and thank you Scarlett for your significant contribution. Now I need to decide if I should get the Ultra Lite Kit, and or the SRS kit and numerous spare pins and springs. My second phase will be the hammer and adjustable sear. I hope my gun's serial number ends in 999. I already have a gun that end in 666.
Chris
Congratulations and welcome! This thread is long and I don't know if people read the whole thing anymore... But there's a test I did on each upgrade/part/polishing and I used one of these. Then I'm working on a Playlist with videos for assembly and disassembly and what not. The link isn't far back and they aren't public on YouTube yet. Let us know if you need any help.
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This is a response from CZUSA/Derrick Miller .......Approximately 1,430 pieces of this pistol were brought here to the US. This run was brought over simply to help meet demand in the US, as here in the US, our compacts are our most sought after firearms. We are at maximum production capacity for metallic framed guns in the US, so any time an extra run can be squeezed in we take it!
My question to them...
Good afternoon, I recently purchased your steel frame Compact version that has the extended beaver tail and rail. The forum crowd has dubbed it the SP-01 Compact. Can you share any of the history of this weapon? Who for and why produced.
600 delivered to the US, is that correct?
Serial #//////
Thank you for any insight on this pistol!
Patrick
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Was hoping for an answer to "who for and why"....
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Well this went from rare to much less rare... Good news though for all those out there who may eventually want one!
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Still a low # and still unique! like I said, was hoping for more.
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Still a low # and still unique! like I said, was hoping for more.
Yeah.... I tried when I first called and couldn't get the juicy information either. If they see good response from this set maybe they'll productionize a true SP-01 Compact!
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I finally set some time aside last night to install my CGW goodies. I love this pistol! I just wanted to share a picture, and say thank you to the forum members that have helped me along the way. Special shout-out to Scarlett Pistol and David from CGW for taking the time to go into detail.
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That looks awesome! I can't wait to get mine in hand.
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I finally set some time aside last night to install my CGW goodies. I love this pistol! I just wanted to share a picture, and say thank you to the forum members that have helped me along the way. Special shout-out to Scarlett Pistol and David from CGW for taking the time to go into detail.
Dang, that is good looking. You have excellent taste my friend!
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I finally set some time aside last night to install my CGW goodies. I love this pistol! I just wanted to share a picture, and say thank you to the forum members that have helped me along the way. Special shout-out to Scarlett Pistol and David from CGW for taking the time to go into detail.
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Great looking pistol. What left side safety are you using ?
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Great looking pistol. What left side safety are you using ?
Tactical Sport Left Hand Safety. It's the only one that fits these specific pistols. Based on frame width and what not.
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That looks awesome! I can't wait to get mine in hand.
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Thanks! And congrats on the pistol.
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I finally set some time aside last night to install my CGW goodies. I love this pistol! I just wanted to share a picture, and say thank you to the forum members that have helped me along the way. Special shout-out to Scarlett Pistol and David from CGW for taking the time to go into detail.
Dang, that is good looking. You have excellent taste my friend!
Thanks! I got the inspiration from your SAO compact. I'm most pleased with how the visible part of the trigger came out. I only polished the sides, I don't know if that's a thing, but I think it looks good.
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Great looking pistol. What left side safety are you using ?
Tactical Sport Left Hand Safety. It's the only one that fits these specific pistols. Based on frame width and what not.
Is this the one? http://czcustom.com/cz-parts-all/safeties/cz-ts-safety-lhs-paddle.html (http://czcustom.com/cz-parts-all/safeties/cz-ts-safety-lhs-paddle.html)
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Great looking pistol. What left side safety are you using ?
Tactical Sport Left Hand Safety. It's the only one that fits these specific pistols. Based on frame width and what not.
Is this the one? http://czcustom.com/cz-parts-all/safeties/cz-ts-safety-lhs-paddle.html (http://czcustom.com/cz-parts-all/safeties/cz-ts-safety-lhs-paddle.html)
Yup
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Thanks! I'll order one for mine today. Love everything about the gun except the skinny safety.
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Great looking pistol. What left side safety are you using ?
Thanks! I'll order one for mine today. Love everything about the gun except the skinny safety.
Here's the thread for safeties on these SP-01 Compacts.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=84002.0
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Does anybody that has one of these have a P01 also? I'm curious if they're actually the exact same size since this is steel and the P01 isn't.
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I own both and they are identical in size
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I own both and they are identical in size
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Perfect. Thank you.
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I own both and they are identical in size
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I'm guessing the sights are there same and I can order P01 sights for my incoming compact SP-01?
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I'm guessing the sights are there same and I can order P01 sights for my incoming compact SP-01?
Correct! I installed the fiber optic front sight from CGW on one. It was the standard front sight.
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The New Batch of Tutorial Videos
I posted the link to the playlist a little bit ago, but they playlist and videos are now public. This means anyone can find them on YouTube (without needing the link to be allowed to view the content.) I have more videos to edit and add, but this is the bulk of them so I posted a thread in the Gun Smithing sub-forum to officially let members know these are available. Here's the thread link and the playlist link. Hope this helps you all!
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=85985.0
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXTbIrAR76i20MrrKs45HbEgP3dwnE0MK
PS - If you find these helpful give them a thumbs up or like. I am pretty sure that will help YouTube show these in results for searches so other people out there can find these.
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Going to give a thumbs up now! Another question about sights....TruGlo TFX just has one model for all the CZ75 series. They don't all use the same sights, right?
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While we're discussing sights, has anyone used Dawson's Tritium rear sights? https://dawsonprecision.com/dawson-precision-cz-75-p-01-fixed-carry-tritium-rear-sights/
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Going to give a thumbs up now! Another question about sights....TruGlo TFX just has one model for all the CZ75 series. They don't all use the same sights, right?
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You'll want to check with them, but from what I can see they are made for the standard CZ 75 series. The front sight would fit these pistols. As for the rear sight I am not 100% sure.
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I emailed them. I'll put their response in this thread when I get one.
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Yesterday I was at CZC and I bought sights for my SP-01 compact. I would post a link but their site is currently down for maintenance. The rear is a Short Tactical (item # 10703) and the front is Fiber Optic (item # 10081) When the site is back up you can search the part numbers and take a look if interested. Stuart showed me a pistol with the sights installed and I really liked them. They remind me of the sights on my Shadow.
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Still a low # and still unique! like I said, was hoping for more.
Yeah.... I tried when I first called and couldn't get the juicy information either. If they see good response from this set maybe they'll productionize a true SP-01 Compact!
Change ONLY the roll mark to "SP-01 Compact", Don't touch how the gun is made, and I'll buy two more. Fired mine for the first times the other day. Absolutely love it. I have some Mepro's for it but it is dead on and don't want to touch it. 13lb hammer spring kit works nice also. Some VZ' or LOK's and call it good
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Don't get to actually take it home today since I live in NY state, but here's what it will look like when I get to put the new grips on in a couple days.
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I had a new "SP-01 Compact" and P-01 in my hand and couldn't decide for my Kadet 2 host. I took the P-01 home only because the price was right. Now I'm wanting to get that SP-01 Compact. Thanks for your help Scarlett and all 8)
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I had a new "SP-01 Compact" and P-01 in my hand and couldn't decide for my Kadet 2 host. I took the P-01 home only because the price was right. Now I'm wanting to get that SP-01 Compact. Thanks for your help Scarlett and all 8)
I know it weighs more than the P01, but I love the beavertail on this thing.
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Yep! and I will keep it far away from the Kadet 2 so they stop breeding in my house!! ;)
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Just fyi -- Mr Gun Dealer total add to cart is at 149... Probably about a month left in these remaining in stock if you want one. Though once they get below 100 remaining, it may become a fire sale.
Reminder on link to sellers per Slickguns: https://www.slickguns.com/search/apachesolr_search/806703990217
Inventory remaining:
Mr Gun Dealer shows 175
Buds shows 121
Update on inventory:
Buds shows 66
Mr Gun Dealer shows 151
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It made it home and I gotta say I think it looks good next to its big brother.
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Congrats WNYSooner on finally getting it home!
SIDE NOTE: CZ said they worked on the frame of the Shadow 2 to make it manage recoil even better. Well, I was looking at a picture and noticed a familiar line in the frame above the grip panels.... Turns out the Shadow 2 has the wider frame up top like our SP-01C's. So, while it seemed like laziness or oversight to just use the P-01 frame on a steel compact... It turns out this carries a recoil reducing benefit CZ was aware of and incorporated into the Shadow 2. Just food for thought that makes these all the more interesting.
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It made it home and I gotta say I think it looks good next to its big brother.
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Congrats! They both look good. Sorry about you living in NY state ;D
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I want one so bad. I almost bought a 97 a few weeks ago, but decided to save the funds for the Shadow 2. Great catch btw.
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Congrats WNYSooner on finally getting it home!
SIDE NOTE: CZ said they worked on the frame of the Shadow 2 to make it manage recoil even better. Well, I was looking at a picture and noticed a familiar line in the frame above the grip panels.... Turns out the Shadow 2 has the wider frame up top like our SP-01C's. So, while it seemed like laziness or oversight to just use the P-01 frame on a steel compact... It turns out this carries a recoil reducing benefit CZ was aware of and incorporated into the Shadow 2. Just food for thought that makes these all the more interesting.
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That's a pretty good catch SP. Makes me love the thing even more now
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It made it home and I gotta say I think it looks good next to its big brother.
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Congrats! They both look good. Sorry about you living in NY state ;D
Having lived in Oklahoma, Colorado, and Texas I'm shocked at what stupid gun laws NY state has. Every move they make you jump through hoops.
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I was wondering if i bought one of these if i could convert it to sao like the 75b SA? What parts would i need?
Thanks
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I was wondering if i bought one of these if i could convert it to sao like the 75b SA? What parts would i need?
Thanks
Just did that exact thing a few weeks ago. Here's what I ordered from CGW to do it. You also need either a starter punch or spring-loaded center punch.
5SAO Single Action Only Aluminum Trigger (your preference)
TR-PIN Floating Trigger Pin
20C Hammer Spring Strut Compact (so you don't have to drive out the pins for the disco and old hammer)
RHK Race Hammer Kit (your preference)
HPIN Hammer Pin
SRS-1 Short Reset System
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I was wondering if i bought one of these if i could convert it to sao like the 75b SA? What parts would i need?
Thanks
Here's some videos and there should be 2 in the Playlist that cover single action only conversions. Hope they help.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXTbIrAR76i20MrrKs45HbEgP3dwnE0MK
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Thanks guys, i'll also check those vids later. After this conversion is done, does the trigger assembly work just like the 75 sa only trigger, i assumed i needed the sao sear cage
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Thanks guys, i'll also check those vids later. After this conversion is done, does the trigger assembly work just like the 75 sa only trigger, i assumed i needed the sao sear cage
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Yup. You do not need a new sear cage, it's the SAO trigger that does the major change in functionality.
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Just be aware that if you put in a different hammer with adjustable sear the safety function will be different. You'll be able to flip the safety up while the hammer is down. Don't do that, though.
From the CGW site:
When installing any high performance hammer in a CZ, the sears angle is changed, which alters the way the manual safety works:
1) Hammer down manual safety can be applied ?up?
2) Hammer at half-cock manual safety can be applied ?up?
3) Hammer at full cock, manual safety can be applied ?up?, but trigger pull w/n drop the hammer
Please note this deviates from the way the OEM parts work. DO NOT cycle the action in DA with the hammer down and the manual safety in the ?up? position. The manual safety was never designed to be applied ?up? with the hammer down, whether using OEM parts or CGW parts. The manual safety is only designed to be used with the hammer at full cock. If 1, 2, & 3 listed above are unacceptable, then do not purchase this hammer kit.
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Ewww! Good to know.
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Also don't try to rack the slide with the safety up.
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I was wondering if i bought one of these if i could convert it to sao like the 75b SA? What parts would i need?
Thanks
Just did that exact thing a few weeks ago. Here's what I ordered from CGW to do it. You also need either a starter punch or spring-loaded center punch.
5SAO Single Action Only Aluminum Trigger (your preference)
TR-PIN Floating Trigger Pin
20C Hammer Spring Strut Compact (so you don't have to drive out the pins for the disco and old hammer)
RHK Race Hammer Kit (your preference)
HPIN Hammer Pin
SRS-1 Short Reset System
I'm also considering converting to SAO just to experiment. Wouldn't you also need a sear spacer to remove the lifter and lifter spring?
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I was wondering if i bought one of these if i could convert it to sao like the 75b SA? What parts would i need?
Thanks
Just did that exact thing a few weeks ago. Here's what I ordered from CGW to do it. You also need either a starter punch or spring-loaded center punch.
5SAO Single Action Only Aluminum Trigger (your preference)
TR-PIN Floating Trigger Pin
20C Hammer Spring Strut Compact (so you don't have to drive out the pins for the disco and old hammer)
RHK Race Hammer Kit (your preference)
HPIN Hammer Pin
SRS-1 Short Reset System
I'm also considering converting to SAO just to experiment. Wouldn't you also need a sear spacer to remove the lifter and lifter spring?
SAO Conversion Parts:
Must Order Parts:
1- SAO Trigger
https://cajungunworks.com/product/5sao-single-action-aluminum-trigger/
https://cajungunworks.com/product/straight-single-action-aluminum-trigger/
https://czcustom.com/cz-75sa-tactical-sports-single-action-only-trigger-black-al.html
EDIT: This is necessary unless you are removing the FPB system.
2- Spacer to fill space from Firing Pin Block Lifter Arm
https://czcustom.com/cz-75b-firing-pin-lifter-spacer.html
https://cajungunworks.com/product/s-spacer-sear-spacer/
Basically Essentials - To Add Parts:
1- Floating Trigger Pin
https://cajungunworks.com/product/tr-pin-cgws-exclusive-floating-trigger-pin/
2- Reduced Power Trigger Return Spring
https://cajungunworks.com/product/rp-trs-reduced-power-trigger-return-spring/
3- Hardened Firing Pin Retaining Pin
https://cajungunworks.com/product/61100-tempered-spring-steel-firing-pin-retaining-pin/
In My Opinion Also Minimum Essentials for a great SAO Trigger - To Add Parts:
1- Reduced Power Firing Pin Spring
https://cajungunworks.com/product/rp-fps-reduced-power-firing-pin-spring/
2- 15 Lb Hammer Spring
https://cajungunworks.com/product/hs-15-gold-15-hammer-spring/
3- Competition Hammer or Race Hammer
https://cajungunworks.com/product/production-legal-czc-competition-hammer/
With those parts (Competition Hammer) and some polishing you should get an incredible 3 lb Single Action trigger. Race Hammer gives a little heavier pull... maybe 3.4 lbs? Get the reduced power firing pin block spring and you'll drop some more weight.
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A SAO gun with the safety down doesn't have any safety feature at all if the FPB lifter is removed. I leave my lifter and spring on all my CZ guns for safety reasons. I might carry or have in my console any of these guns so for me I don't think it's a good idea to remove them.
There's a way to manually lower the hammer and still have the FPB protecting against a negligent discharge- pull and release the trigger while holding the hammer back, then lower the hammer once the trigger finger is off the finger.
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As of yesterday, I have 1,050 rounds through my "SP01" compact with zero problems. Absolutely no regrets. I think it may be time to clean it (hasn't been cleaned since the cleaning I gave it before shooting it).
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As of yesterday, I have 1,050 rounds through my "SP01" compact with zero problems. Absolutely no regrets. I think it may be time to clean it (hasn't been cleaned since the cleaning I gave it before shooting it).
I have to start all over again. A month ago, I had the sights changed to night sights. The new gunsmith (who is no longer working there) scratched my gun. The owner bought me a new one and it just came in last week (I picked it up Thursday). I haven't shot it yet. The old one was just starting to smooth out (I decided to leave it stock, for now). Back to square one...
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Ok guys, here is the thing. I finally got a hold of one. And while I like the gun overall, I still find it slightly lighter than my CZ clone Canik P100 which all steel as well. So, the weight does not bother me at all. Gun feels good as do all CZ's. Trigger is neither bad or great out of the box.
HOWEVER....
The safety is garbage on this gun. Utter garbage. Too thin, first of all. Like a cheap part. It engages and especially disengages much easier than any CZ I own with a manual Safety. So much so, that I wouldn't leave it in SA with safety up.
Can the safety be replaced, or has anyone done it yet? If I can't upgrade this safety lever, I think I'm going to sell it.
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I've put extra-strength safety detent springs in all all my CZs. Helps quite a bit.
http://www.dsperman.com/products/CZSpring/CZSpring.html (http://www.dsperman.com/products/CZSpring/CZSpring.html)
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A month ago, I had the sights changed to night sights.... I haven't shot it yet.
I saw on your scratch thread that you bought Trijicon Bright and Tough sights. Please let us know how the POI/POA is when you get to shoot it.
I've been thinking about putting TFX sights on my SP-01 Compact. I've got them on most of my other guns. I've read varying reports on whether POI = POA on Compacts, though.
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A month ago, I had the sights changed to night sights.... I haven't shot it yet.
I saw on your scratch thread that you bought Trijicon Bright and Tough sights. Please let us know how the POI/POA is when you get to shoot it.
I've been thinking about putting TFX sights on my SP-01 Compact. I've got them on most of my other guns. I've read varying reports on whether POI = POA on Compacts, though.
POI/POA was very accurate on the scratched one, which is another reason why I was so upset - it made me look like I knew what I was doing. LOL I'm hoping it's the same on this one. I probably won't shoot it until the weekend, though I'm thinking about going tomorrow. I'll report back when I do go.
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Hello all! Just a newbie here, though not entirely new to CZ: I also own an old cz 82.
Anywho, I knew I was going to be in the market for a cz 75 some day after just picking one up at a gun show. So a few weeks ago I finally got to shopping around and, to my despair, noticed that all the full size 75B's and SP 01's were sold out on the web. However, Bud's listed them as in stock, so I went ahead and ordered one. Then, they notified me that they too were out, the stock quantity simply hadn't been updated on their website.
So I looked around some more on their site, noticed a beefy looking compact model with a rail( I tried to do as much research on these as I could) and thought what the heck, it probably weighs almost as much as the B. So I ordered and later stumbled across this thread to find out that I've stumbled into a rather special pistol, seemingly by accident.
Needless to say I fell in love the very moment I lifted it out of the box. :) She showed up in 2 days and so far I've put the 300 best rounds I've ever fired through her. I was even able to land shots consistently on a little 6 inch gong at about 80 yards(unheard of for me w/ a handgun).
Funny how things just work out sometimes.
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff491/jakecs1/IMG_20170216_002914678_zps4na82ybj.jpg?t=1487137039)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff491/jakecs1/IMG_20170216_002706382_zpssihutoj4.jpg?t=1487137037)
Please forgive my lousy camera and photography.
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Hello all! Just a newbie here, though not entirely new to CZ: I also own an old cz 82.
Anywho, I knew I was going to be in the market for a cz 75 some day after just picking one up at a gun show. So a few weeks ago I finally got to shopping around and, to my despair, noticed that all the full size 75B's and SP 01's were sold out on the web. However, Bud's listed them as in stock, so I went ahead and ordered one. Then, they notified me that they too were out, the stock quantity simply hadn't been updated on their website.
So I looked around some more on their site, noticed a beefy looking compact model with a rail( I tried to do as much research on these as I could) and thought what the heck, it probably weighs almost as much as the B. So I ordered and later stumbled across this thread to find out that I've stumbled into a rather special pistol, seemingly by accident.
Needless to say I fell in love the very moment I lifted it out of the box. :) She showed up in 2 days and so far I've put the 300 best rounds I've ever fired through her. I was even able to land shots consistently on a little 6 inch gong at about 80 yards(unheard of for me w/ a handgun).
Funny how things just work out sometimes.
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff491/jakecs1/IMG_20170216_002914678_zps4na82ybj.jpg?t=1487137039)
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff491/jakecs1/IMG_20170216_002706382_zpssihutoj4.jpg?t=1487137037)
Please forgive my lousy camera and photography.
Congratulations and welcome! Ha, this thread has turned into a novel, but it has lots of information intertwined with great stories of shooting joy like yours. Feel free to ask any and all questions, there's a lot of super helpful and classy members aboard.
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^^Indeed, this is the third highest thread on the forums by reply count, about to take second.
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There is something about CZs that seems to encourage civil discussions. Over on INGO, there's a thread that's in its 10th iteration, with each iteration being closed after 5k responses. That's pushing 50,000 responses about all things CZ
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There is something about CZs that seems to encourage civil discussions. Over on INGO, there's a thread that's in its 10th iteration, with each iteration being closed after 5k responses. That's pushing 50,000 responses about all things CZ
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^^Indeed, this is the third highest thread on the forums by reply count, about to take second.
Whoa, those are crazy high response counts at INGO!
Jeez I didn't realize this thread was so high by reply count... Ha, it's like having 1 thread for everything about the Tactical Sport... Hopefully it's still helpful at this length. It is still fun to see people add their posts with stories of getting these pistols though, like a growing saga for this one off unique CZ.
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This thread convinced me to get this one over the PCR for the time being. I know I'll still get a PCR one day. I'm still waiting on my holster to get here, but if I can manage the weight of this for EDC I'll be one happy fella and feel very confident in it's shooting ability. Scarlett should get a free CZ for this thread.
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This thread convinced me to get this one over the PCR for the time being. I know I'll still get a PCR one day. I'm still waiting on my holster to get here, but if I can manage the weight of this for EDC I'll be one happy fella and feel very confident in it's shooting ability. Scarlett should get a free CZ for this thread.
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Free CZ? Indeed. Here's your free CZ, Scarlett Pistol (PM me). (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170216/28e7a7b41440e8616fe1debad441daf1.jpg)
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The key to carrying a heavy pistol is a good quality holster and belt. Heavy guns expose substandard carry gear.
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The key to carrying a heavy pistol is a good quality holster and belt. Heavy guns expose substandard carry gear.
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Yep. The belt is covered and holster is about 1.5 weeks out
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This thread convinced me to get this one over the PCR for the time being. I know I'll still get a PCR one day. I'm still waiting on my holster to get here, but if I can manage the weight of this for EDC I'll be one happy fella and feel very confident in it's shooting ability. Scarlett should get a free CZ for this thread.
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Free CZ? Indeed. Here's your free CZ, Scarlett Pistol (PM me). (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170216/28e7a7b41440e8616fe1debad441daf1.jpg)
Is that a poker chip?
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Patch (Velcro backing or stick-on) given to me at the CZUB store. Poker chip would be nice!
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Neat.
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This thread convinced me to get this one over the PCR for the time being. I know I'll still get a PCR one day. I'm still waiting on my holster to get here, but if I can manage the weight of this for EDC I'll be one happy fella and feel very confident in it's shooting ability. Scarlett should get a free CZ for this thread.
Free CZ? Indeed. Here's your free CZ, Scarlett Pistol (PM me). (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170216/28e7a7b41440e8616fe1debad441daf1.jpg)
That is a cool patch! I'm always jealous when you post pictures of being out there and visiting the store and what not.
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I'm gonna pick one of these up tomorrow, but live in a 10rd magazine limit state. First, does anyone have magazine recommendations for a 10 rounder? Also, would anyone know the procedure I'd have to undergo since it comes with magazines of more than 10 rounds? Do they just get surrendered to my FFL during the transfer? Or can I call the online realtor when I order and ask to swap out for 10 rounders in the case (seems like a longshot). Thanks for any help! working my way through these 47 pages haha.
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I'm gonna pick one of these up tomorrow, but live in a 10rd magazine limit state. First, does anyone have magazine recommendations for a 10 rounder? Also, would anyone know the procedure I'd have to undergo since it comes with magazines of more than 10 rounds? Do they just get surrendered to my FFL during the transfer? Or can I call the online realtor when I order and ask to swap out for 10 rounders in the case (seems like a longshot). Thanks for any help! working my way through these 47 pages haha.
I had my FFL dealer permanently modify them to 10 rounds. Cost $30 for parts and labor but that's still cheaper than one 10 round magazine.
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What a great American Independence Day give away idea for the next forum drawing! One of us will be most pleased to wear that patch proudly! Enter me, please!
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I'm gonna pick one of these up tomorrow, but live in a 10rd magazine limit state. First, does anyone have magazine recommendations for a 10 rounder? Also, would anyone know the procedure I'd have to undergo since it comes with magazines of more than 10 rounds? Do they just get surrendered to my FFL during the transfer? Or can I call the online realtor when I order and ask to swap out for 10 rounders in the case (seems like a longshot). Thanks for any help! working my way through these 47 pages haha.
Some dealers will swap mags, if you want factroy 10s i would call and ask them if they can do this for you. As far as the FFL, some FFLs can receive and the block the full capacity mags and some will not. I would call your FFL and ask them if they can receive the mags and if they can provide the blocking service. In my state (CA) FFL's are required to have a special license to take possession of full cap mags. It is called a High Capacity Magazine Permit. So around here not all FFLs can do it. It is best to check.
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What a great American Independence Day give away idea for the next forum drawing! One of us will be most pleased to wear that patch proudly! Enter me, please!
What?
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You didn't participate in the last drawing? In addition to the great moderators donating stuff for giveaways, a bunch of regular members stepped up with their own gifts. That was just my presumptive suggestion for a future drawing donation. My form of greed-- a chance for the patch before its gifted. Sorry Scarlett, you can wait on the answer for a cz firearm for your marketing effort here (and enter the drawing for a chance at the patch) ;D
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To those who have converted one of these to SAO, are you happy with it?
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My form of greed-- a chance for the patch before its gifted. Sorry Scarlett, you can wait on the answer for a cz firearm for your marketing effort here (and enter the drawing for a chance at the patch) ;D
Ha, four CZ's leaves me feeling blessed. But I'll wouldn't turn away any CZ's given to me, no doubt!
To those who have converted one of these to SAO, are you happy with it?
Love mine! Did a conversion on one for my local FFL who does all my transfers now (ha, all 3 of them so far). He was thrilled with it!
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You didn't participate in the last drawing? In addition to the great moderators donating stuff for giveaways, a bunch of regular members stepped up with their own gifts. That was just my presumptive suggestion for a future drawing donation. My form of greed-- a chance for the patch before its gifted. Sorry Scarlett, you can wait on the answer for a cz firearm for your marketing effort here (and enter the drawing for a chance at the patch) ;D
Ha! Gotcha. I'm fairly new to this forum so had no idea what you were talking about - definitely participating in the next one.
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Ha ha, Tyrone! Didn't think a simple patch would draw some drool factor. I now see that there's an out-of-stock version on the CZ-USA website but that one has CZ-USA emblazoned on it. Who knows what'll show up at future drawings run by this fabulous forum for its fabulous members. [emoji846]
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Hello to all:
I've been lurking on this board for a little better than a year, I finally registered. In the last few years I've had a P-07, (ended up trading it) last year a PCR (ended up trading it as well) and now have a SP-01 Tactical That I acquired in a trade. ( traded a VP9 even up for it, and after shooting it awhile,it's not going anywhere) and yesterday I ordered a SP-01 compact, I figured I'd better get one if I wanted one, while I could. Since the P-10 from what I've read, is going to be delayed until late April, This freed up funds for the SP-10 compact. If these shoot anything like my SP-01 Tac, This should be a joy to shoot. A couple quick questions for those of you who have dug around a bit in these, Can the manual safety on these converted to a decocker? Also what holsters work, P-01's? Sights? p-01"s? I can't wait to get mine..
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A couple quick questions for those of you who have dug around a bit in these, Can the manual safety on these converted to a decocker? Also what holsters work, P-01's? Sights? p-01"s? I can't wait to get mine..
Welcome and congratulations!
Short answer, no they can't be converted to a decocker (only omega trigger systems can go back and forth). P-01 holsters are the correct fit. I only changed a front sight so some other gentlemen will be better answer rear sights and what not. Got these for the same reason, love my SP-01 and wanted a compact version with the steel frame. Share your range report when you get it and take it out!
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Welcome to forum, badwrench! I see the prospect of winning that patch brought you out of the lurking shadows! 8)
JK!
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A couple quick questions for those of you who have dug around a bit in these, Can the manual safety on these converted to a decocker? Also what holsters work, P-01's? Sights? p-01"s? I can't wait to get mine..
Welcome and congratulations!
Short answer, no they can't be converted to a decocker (only omega trigger systems can go back and forth). P-01 holsters are the correct fit. I only changed a front sight so some other gentlemen will be better answer rear sights and what not. Got these for the same reason, love my SP-01 and wanted a compact version with the steel frame. Share your range report when you get it and take it out!
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Scarlett Pistol, by converting, what I was thinking was by changing sear cages, I understand what you mean with the omega system, But I was thinking changing the whole sear cage,(and what ever else ) to get a decocker, is that even possible with this model?
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A couple quick questions for those of you who have dug around a bit in these, Can the manual safety on these converted to a decocker? Also what holsters work, P-01's? Sights? p-01"s? I can't wait to get mine..
Welcome and congratulations!
Short answer, no they can't be converted to a decocker (only omega trigger systems can go back and forth). P-01 holsters are the correct fit. I only changed a front sight so some other gentlemen will be better answer rear sights and what not. Got these for the same reason, love my SP-01 and wanted a compact version with the steel frame. Share your range report when you get it and take it out!
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Scarlett Pistol, by converting, what I was thinking was by changing sear cages, I understand what you mean with the omega system, But I was thinking changing the whole sear cage,(and what ever else ) to get a decocker, is that even possible with this model?
With the classic trigger system the frames have holes in different spots so interchange doesn't work. I looked into it because I wanted to convert a P-01 to a manual safety before these SP-01 Compacts arrived.
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Well, Thanks, Guess I'll have to learn to use the safety lever, On the bright side I did get my shipping notice from Mr. Gun Dealer this afternoon, so, hopefully next week I should have it. In the meantime, I guess I'll stroll through CGN's website, I plan on doing to this compact what I did to my SP-01,(which wasn't a lot, pretty basic, really) extended firing pin & springs, #13 hammer spring, reduced power trigger spring, trigger pin, and firing pin retaining pin. leave everything else factory. I like the recurve trigger in my SP-01, so, I'll probably keep it in the compact.. And then there's grips.. and I've got to look at sights...
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Well, Thanks, Guess I'll have to learn to use the safety lever, On the bright side I did get my shipping notice from Mr. Gun Dealer this afternoon, so, hopefully next week I should have it. In the meantime, I guess I'll stroll through CGN's website, I plan on doing to this compact what I did to my SP-01,(which wasn't a lot, pretty basic, really) extended firing pin & springs, #13 hammer spring, reduced power trigger spring, trigger pin, and firing pin retaining pin. leave everything else factory. I like the recurve trigger in my SP-01, so, I'll probably keep it in the compact.. And then there's grips.. and I've got to look at sights...
I don't bother with the safety on this one. It's thin enough to not be in the way at all. It can't engage unless the hammer is all the way back, and it's too thin to trust carrying like that in my opinion. I let the dropped hammer and myself be the safety.
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Well, Thanks, Guess I'll have to learn to use the safety lever, On the bright side I did get my shipping notice from Mr. Gun Dealer this afternoon, so, hopefully next week I should have it. In the meantime, I guess I'll stroll through CGN's website, I plan on doing to this compact what I did to my SP-01,(which wasn't a lot, pretty basic, really) extended firing pin & springs, #13 hammer spring, reduced power trigger spring, trigger pin, and firing pin retaining pin. leave everything else factory. I like the recurve trigger in my SP-01, so, I'll probably keep it in the compact.. And then there's grips.. and I've got to look at sights...
I don't bother with the safety on this one. It's thin enough to not be in the way at all. It can't engage unless the hammer is all the way back, and it's too thin to trust carrying like that in my opinion. I let the dropped hammer and myself be the safety.
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That's probably what I'll do.. I prefer decockers on DA/SA carry guns. I was hoping I could convert it, but I guess not.
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I think a few pages within this thread someone or a few people had eyes on the number of these guns that were available...any idea on how many of these are still available to be sold and is Bill Hicks the only distributor?
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There are several on GB for sale right now.
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There are several on GB for sale right now.
Oh yes I see that, I'm just trying to get an idea on many are out there. I see Bill Hicks is showing 32
Is that all that's left or are there other distributors with stock?
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Anacortes shows the same 32 number available. I'm assuming they're using Hicks as their distributor.
https://www.anacortesgunshop.com/cz-75-compact-9mm-rail-steel-frame-manual-safe-148051 (https://www.anacortesgunshop.com/cz-75-compact-9mm-rail-steel-frame-manual-safe-148051)
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Bill Hicks got the first 500. CZ custom brought in 100 and then 1000 more made it to a bunch of others. So if Bill Hicks is almost out we know there's 1100 or so out there that are being sold. I'm guessing these will be in stock another 6 months.
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Bill Hicks got the first 500. CZ custom brought in 100 and then 1000 more made it to a bunch of others. So if Bill Hicks is almost out we know there's 1100 or so out there that are being sold. I'm guessing these will be in stock another 6 months.
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Ok thanks.....so if we want to be able to buy these locally at our LGS it seems that once Bill Hicks supply is gone our only option will be buying through internet sellers?
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I've been seeing them everywhere , went to a gun show last week, and I must have seen atleast 5 of them at different vendors. I'm beginning to wonder about the numbers available. I'm still glad I got one tho
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I've been seeing them everywhere , went to a gun show last week, and I must have seen atleast 5 of them at different vendors. I'm beginning to wonder about the numbers available. I'm still glad I got one tho
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They aren't rare at all, they literally are everywhere.
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I had a quick question. I noticed this gun this morning and I've been wanting a CZ-75 compact for FOREVER, but sadly I'm a lefty and the all steel compact is right handed safety only. So color me surprised when I run across what looks like a P-01 but with ambi safety AND a full steel frame. I'm about to bit the bullet and grab one (unless someone can tell me why I shouldn't for my first CZ) but was wondering if the mags are the same as the Compact, PCR, P-01, or if they're proprietary to this model.
thanks!
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Bill Hicks got the first 500. CZ custom brought in 100 and then 1000 more made it to a bunch of others. So if Bill Hicks is almost out we know there's 1100 or so out there that are being sold. I'm guessing these will be in stock another 6 months.
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Ok thanks.....so if we want to be able to buy these locally at our LGS it seems that once Bill Hicks supply is gone our only option will be buying through internet sellers?
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Well from some experiences of other forum members earlier that tried to have their LGS call Hicks he was charging them a ton and they ended up going through an Internet seller anyways. But yeah... I think you are correct.
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I ordered one from Anacortes last week when it showed 22 in stock. Over the week, it went down to 7. Today it is showing 32, so Anacortes is replenishing their supply. Mine arrives tomorrow to my FFL and in my hands tomorrow night. Looking forward to a comparison with my P-01 which has been 100% out of the box. Started years ago with a CZ 82 in 9mm Mak which I still shoot to this day with Hornady ammo, then got a 97B last year. Just trying to figure out which CZ is next?? Probably a Shadow. My 1911's are collecting too much dust these days......................
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Looks like Bill Hicks Co. is showing 0 available now.
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Went back to Anacortes site just now and shows zero, when this morning it showed 32. Beats me what's going on with their inventory or internet guru....weird.
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Picked mine up yesterday, LGS where I had it shipped to has a indoor range, After filling out the paper work, I ran a boresnake down the bore, and ran 200 rnds through it No problems... I've already ordered some LOK grips, and some goodies from CGW, These things are wonderful shooters, and with a good belt and holster, would make a excellent CCW. My only complaint is that I wish CZ would step into the 21st century and upgrade the sights, putting a couple of dovetails in the slide can't be THAT hard.... Anyway I figured since these were a one time deal, I should probably get one, I figure the chances of seeing an offer like this again is probably about nil..
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I had a quick question. I noticed this gun this morning and I've been wanting a CZ-75 compact for FOREVER, but sadly I'm a lefty and the all steel compact is right handed safety only. So color me surprised when I run across what looks like a P-01 but with ambi safety AND a full steel frame. I'm about to bit the bullet and grab one (unless someone can tell me why I shouldn't for my first CZ) but was wondering if the mags are the same as the Compact, PCR, P-01, or if they're proprietary to this model.
thanks!
Mags are the same. I haven't done it but you can open it up and flip the magazine release to be lefty. You may want a different safety lever as they are pretty thin on this one. If you get it and that's the case just ask and I'll point you to the one you need.
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Mr. Gun Dealer still has them for $509: http://www.mrgundealer.com/product.cz-usa-99021-cz-75-compact-9mm-rail-steel-frame-manual-safety-8067039902-29-1047
Still around: https://www.slickguns.com/search/apachesolr_search/806703990217?view=list
Plus, many, many that are not listed including CZ Custom (https://czcustom.com/new-firearms/cz-pistols-factory/75-b-compact-rail.html), Oak Hill Guns (http://oakhillguns.com/pistol/cz-usa/cz-75-9mm-compact-rail.html)... on and on...
I still would pick one up now if you want one... you know as they dry up the prices will increase... I'm so close to picking one up! :)
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long time lurker, took me nearly 4 hours to read through this thread, and i ended up buying one. many thanks to Scarlett Pistol (you caused me to lose money!).
this will be my first CZ. i thought i might be more comfortable with a decocker, but i figured, hey, its a decent price for great features.
i bought it from RifleGear.com, and intend to pricematch through my credit card to Mr. Gun Dealer. hope to hit $520 after FFL. i think that's a great value for any quality pistol let alone a CZ!
will have to go back through this thread carefully again and learn the anatomy, and all the tips and tricks for optimizing the firearm.
thank you all
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I had a quick question. I noticed this gun this morning and I've been wanting a CZ-75 compact for FOREVER, but sadly I'm a lefty and the all steel compact is right handed safety only. So color me surprised when I run across what looks like a P-01 but with ambi safety AND a full steel frame. I'm about to bit the bullet and grab one (unless someone can tell me why I shouldn't for my first CZ) but was wondering if the mags are the same as the Compact, PCR, P-01, or if they're proprietary to this model.
thanks!
Mags are the same. I haven't done it but you can open it up and flip the magazine release to be lefty. You may want a different safety lever as they are pretty thin on this one. If you get it and that's the case just ask and I'll point you to the one you need.
great! thanks, I was pretty sure it would be the same, and I think grip panels are the same as the compact/pcr/p-01 as well so I can replace with some rosewood ones if I like, correct?
I actually wouldn't change the mag release, I'm so used to be a lefty in a righty world that I drop the mag with my left index finger on every gun so it would seem weird to do it the "normal" way
as for the safety. is it easy to swap to a bigger ambi safety button if I think they're too thin? or require some fitting like 1911s?
EDIT: I made the plunge, picked one up from Mrgundealer for $539.98 shipped (my FFL does a $15 transfer fee) soooooooooo stinking excited!
Mrgundealer.com is now down to 5 in stock after I made my order and everyone else seems to be nearly out too
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I got swept up in the excitement...after seeing Bill Hicks stock drop to zero I figured I'd better find one and buy it.
I've wanted a Compact L since I saw them but they've become too rich for my blood when I can find a used one. This will have to fill that gap I guess. I have no doubt that I'll like it, but was wanting the lighter weight of the Compact L and I don't like the P-01 decocker after trying one out.
By the way....MrGunDealer has them at $509 right meow.
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and I think grip panels are the same as the compact/pcr/p-01 as well so I can replace with some rosewood ones if I like, correct?
Correct
as for the safety. is it easy to swap to a bigger ambi safety button if I think they're too thin? or require some fitting like 1911s?
It's a pretty easy swap. Normally CZ safeties don't require fitting, but the right side safety on these is pretty tight. That being said you would only need to replace the right side safety since you're lefty... So you may not to do any fitting. If so it is easy. I can send you to a thread with all the info along with a video about it.
EDIT: I made the plunge, picked one up from Mrgundealer for $539.98 shipped (my FFL does a $15 transfer fee) soooooooooo stinking excited!
Mrgundealer.com is now down to 5 in stock after I made my order and everyone else seems to be nearly out too
Congratulations! Dang this tax season stuff sure drives demand. They may dry up faster than I thought. Glad I have 2 already!! [emoji48] Anyways, the thread is long so if you have questions you can ask or message me. There's references to threads testing the impact of upgrades, total disassembly and reassembly videos, the thread on safeties, and a bunch more info buried in here somewhere.
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I got swept up in the excitement...after seeing Bill Hicks stock drop to zero I figured I'd better find one and buy it.
I've wanted a Compact L since I saw them but they've become too rich for my blood when I can find a used one. This will have to fill that gap I guess. I have no doubt that I'll like it, but was wanting the lighter weight of the Compact L and I don't like the P-01 decocker after trying one out.
By the way....MrGunDealer has them at $509 right meow.
Ha, I was the same way. Started watching for the Compact L and they were just so pricey. That's a spanking good price, congratulations! Let us know how it shoots when you get it!
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and I think grip panels are the same as the compact/pcr/p-01 as well so I can replace with some rosewood ones if I like, correct?
Correct
as for the safety. is it easy to swap to a bigger ambi safety button if I think they're too thin? or require some fitting like 1911s?
It's a pretty easy swap. Normally CZ safeties don't require fitting, but the right side safety on these is pretty tight. That being said you would only need to replace the right side safety since you're lefty... So you may not to do any fitting. If so it is easy. I can send you to a thread with all the info along with a video about it.
EDIT: I made the plunge, picked one up from Mrgundealer for $539.98 shipped (my FFL does a $15 transfer fee) soooooooooo stinking excited!
Mrgundealer.com is now down to 5 in stock after I made my order and everyone else seems to be nearly out too
Congratulations! Dang this tax season stuff sure drives demand. They may dry up faster than I thought. Glad I have 2 already!! [emoji48] Anyways, the thread is long so if you have questions you can ask or message me. There's references to threads testing the impact of upgrades, total disassembly and reassembly videos, the thread on safeties, and a bunch more info buried in here somewhere.
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gotcha, and ugggg, you said you have two??? you know that's going to make my OCD kick into high gear and pick up a 2nd as a "backup" you know? (I'm horrible about that)
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gotcha, and ugggg, you said you have two??? you know that's going to make my OCD kick into high gear and pick up a 2nd as a "backup" you know? (I'm horrible about that)
You bet! Back when there were only 500 instead of all 1600 I was desperately scrounging funds to get a second as a back up. Who know how long they last now... But this was still a one time run for a client that didn't end up taking delivery. So once they are gone they are gone. Rumor has it they were an order from an Asian country... This is total rumor at this point but it always a scrap of information.
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gotcha, and ugggg, you said you have two??? you know that's going to make my OCD kick into high gear and pick up a 2nd as a "backup" you know? (I'm horrible about that)
You bet! Back when there were only 500 instead of all 1600 I was desperately scrounging funds to get a second as a back up. Who know how long they last now... But this was still a one time run for a client that didn't end up taking delivery. So once they are gone they are gone. Rumor has it they were an order from an Asian country... This is total rumor at this point but it always a scrap of information.
lol, yeah that's still NOT a lot of guns. I'm super tempted just putting it on my business CC and ordering a second one as backup and sell it off if I don't like it. I have never shot a CZ before (this is my first CZ gun) so I'm not sure if I'll fall in love with this particular model, but I've been wanting CZ 75 variant for a llooooooooong time, and I'm a collector at heart, thus this insane urge to grab a backup when in case they are some magic gun and gone forever. The other side of me says "wait, there are other variations of the gun you haven't tried yet!" lol
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lol, yeah that's still NOT a lot of guns. I'm super tempted just putting it on my business CC and ordering a second one as backup and sell it off if I don't like it. I have never shot a CZ before (this is my first CZ gun) so I'm not sure if I'll fall in love with this particular model, but I've been wanting CZ 75 variant for a llooooooooong time, and I'm a collector at heart, thus this insane urge to grab a backup when in case they are some magic gun and gone forever. The other side of me says "wait, there are other variations of the gun you haven't tried yet!" lol
Oh yeah, get it and try it out. The SP-01 is fantastic, I love my classic 75 Compact, and there's more beyond my little collection. You'll soon start your path down CZ addiction... And likely the upgrades addiction.
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lol, yeah that's still NOT a lot of guns. I'm super tempted just putting it on my business CC and ordering a second one as backup and sell it off if I don't like it. I have never shot a CZ before (this is my first CZ gun) so I'm not sure if I'll fall in love with this particular model, but I've been wanting CZ 75 variant for a llooooooooong time, and I'm a collector at heart, thus this insane urge to grab a backup when in case they are some magic gun and gone forever. The other side of me says "wait, there are other variations of the gun you haven't tried yet!" lol
Oh yeah, get it and try it out. The SP-01 is fantastic, I love my classic 75 Compact, and there's more beyond my little collection. You'll soon start your path down CZ addiction... And likely the upgrades addiction.
I don't doubt it. If it's anything like 1911 addiction (which I'm VERY well versed in) then this is a dangerous road to go down.
I've wanted a CZ-75 ever since I finger banged an EAA Tangolio Witness a few years back, but have held off because I'm a lefty and most of the good deals were on basic CZ 75s or CZ 75 compacts (both of which have right handed safeties), or the P07/P09 guns (not interested in polymer guns), but THIS is the perfect price, ambi safety, full steel etc....
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long time lurker, took me nearly 4 hours to read through this thread, and i ended up buying one. many thanks to Scarlett Pistol (you caused me to lose money!).
this will be my first CZ. i thought i might be more comfortable with a decocker, but i figured, hey, its a decent price for great features.
i bought it from RifleGear.com, and intend to pricematch through my credit card to Mr. Gun Dealer. hope to hit $520 after FFL. i think that's a great value for any quality pistol let alone a CZ!
will have to go back through this thread carefully again and learn the anatomy, and all the tips and tricks for optimizing the firearm.
thank you all
Ha, yeah this is getting to be pretty long... Glad I could help your bank account! O0 Feel free to PM me with any questions since I've helped create this monster. In a week or so my second one will be ready to show off again. Converted to SAO with the intent of giving any 1911 a run for its money in the trigger and accuracy departments.
I don't doubt it. If it's anything like 1911 addiction (which I'm VERY well versed in) then this is a dangerous road to go down.
I've wanted a CZ-75 ever since I finger banged an EAA Tangolio Witness a few years back, but have held off because I'm a lefty and most of the good deals were on basic CZ 75s or CZ 75 compacts (both of which have right handed safeties), or the P07/P09 guns (not interested in polymer guns), but THIS is the perfect price, ambi safety, full steel etc....
If you've gone down the 1911 addiction path you're in trouble. You know you can easily convert these to SAO, right?
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they can be converted to single action only? that's dangerous. I hear CZ's are easily upgraded, although I'd be a bit nervous trying on my first firearm + I like DA/SA guns as well (big sig fan until Sig QC and CS went into the crapper the last decade) so I may keep this one stock
if it's easy enough I might put in a short reset kit and change out the hammer/trigger I just have never tried anything like that before
one last question. what are the 3 dot sites on these? I've seen some retailers say that they're glow in the dark night sites while others just say "3 dot".
and yes, 1911 addiction is very VERY bad. I don't have a massive collection but I'm on my 5th one and am deciding between a Springer 9mm Range officer and the Ruger SR1911 9mm lightweight commander, so I don't have much hope for myself in the cz addiction. over on 1911forums I've been warned multiple times that If I start down the CZ path it will not end well for my wallet.
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they can be converted to single action only? that's dangerous. I hear CZ's are easily upgraded, although I'd be a bit nervous trying on my first firearm + I like DA/SA guns as well (big sig fan until Sig QC and CS went into the crapper the last decade) so I may keep this one stock
if it's easy enough I might put in a short reset kit and change out the hammer/trigger I just have never tried anything like that before
one last question. what are the 3 dot sites on these? I've seen some retailers say that they're glow in the dark night sites while others just say "3 dot".
and yes, 1911 addiction is very VERY bad. I don't have a massive collection but I'm on my 5th one and am deciding between a Springer 9mm Range officer and the Ruger SR1911 9mm lightweight commander, so I don't have much hope for myself in the cz addiction. over on 1911forums I've been warned multiple times that If I start down the CZ path it will not end well for my wallet.
I've heard that about Sig and it's too bad.
Upgrades aren't bad at all. Lots of good threads in the gunsmithing section and I made a Playlist of videos trying to help out a little bit ago. I was actually using one of these SP-01 Compacts in the videos. If nothing else the CZ Custom Competition Hammer is almost necessary. I'm a trigger snob, but it just makes CZ's so much better!
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=85985.0
Here's the thread on the impacts of upgrades:
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=83591.0
If the site's glow I never saw it in mine. I don't pay much attention to the rear dots... But the front isn't fantastic. To be honest the classic 75 Compact has the worst front sight I have ever seen, so I have easily used the front sight these came with. That being said quite a few guys have tried really nice sights on these and shared their feedback. I think most comments were somewhere in this thread.
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they can be converted to single action only? that's dangerous. I hear CZ's are easily upgraded, although I'd be a bit nervous trying on my first firearm + I like DA/SA guns as well (big sig fan until Sig QC and CS went into the crapper the last decade) so I may keep this one stock
if it's easy enough I might put in a short reset kit and change out the hammer/trigger I just have never tried anything like that before
one last question. what are the 3 dot sites on these? I've seen some retailers say that they're glow in the dark night sites while others just say "3 dot".
and yes, 1911 addiction is very VERY bad. I don't have a massive collection but I'm on my 5th one and am deciding between a Springer 9mm Range officer and the Ruger SR1911 9mm lightweight commander, so I don't have much hope for myself in the cz addiction. over on 1911forums I've been warned multiple times that If I start down the CZ path it will not end well for my wallet.
I've heard that about Sig and it's too bad.
Upgrades aren't bad at all. Lots of good threads in the gunsmithing section and I made a Playlist of videos trying to help out a little bit ago. I was actually using one of these SP-01 Compacts in the videos. If nothing else the CZ Custom Competition Hammer is almost necessary. I'm a trigger snob, but it just makes CZ's so much better!
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=85985.0
Here's the thread on the impacts of upgrades:
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=83591.0
If the site's glow I never saw it in mine. I don't pay much attention to the rear dots... But the front isn't fantastic. To be honest the classic 75 Compact has the worst front sight I have ever seen, so I have easily used the front sight these came with. That being said quite a few guys have tried really nice sights on these and shared their feedback. I think most comments were somewhere in this thread.
gotcha, doesn't look too horrible. I may keep this one stock being my first CZ... wanna see how well they break in and smooth out etc...
and yeah, Sig went downhill about 2005. their debacle with the P220 stainless and P220 Carry models and the internal extractors was bad, but they pretty much covered it all up and things have just gone downhill from there. They're still good guns, it's just that their CS and QC issues make it so that I don't feel comfortable spending nearly a grand per gun when I can get amazing quality from CZ or a Springfield 1911 for hundreds less and no hassle.
cool, I doubted they have night sights, but they must have some slight luminescence or something instead. And good to know that they're not bad. I played with a 75B compact in the store one time and the sights were dog poo for sure. I was shocked.
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I am buying my SP-01 Compact from K-Var, and they assured me the sights on it are tritium. Has anyone gotten one with tritium sights?
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CZ USA responded back to my question about the subject and said that they were luminescent, but not Night sights.
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Just picked one up tonight, they are a cheap cz lumen' paint sight. I had to get one and I was there gettimg my tac-sport orange. (Evoloution armory in somersworth NH) i believe he has two tac sport oranges left as well as two compacts.
The two things I would change on the compact is the sights and the safety.
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Just picked one up tonight, they are a cheap cz lumen' paint sight. I had to get one and I was there gettimg my tac-sport orange. (Evoloution armory in somersworth NH) i believe he has two tac sport oranges left as well as two compacts.
The two things I would change on the compact is the sights and the safety.
what do you not like about the safety?
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So I've got the CZ 75 compact... any reason to pass this up? Very tempting at the price point. Debating on selling the 75C and getting this sucker instead.
Flared magwell, extended mag release, pic rail, forward slide serrations, as well as any of the durability improvements from the OG SP-01.
What say you guys? Would you jump ship?
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The safeties are pretty thin... Some people don't get a good reach to engage them (depending on hand size or grip style). Here's the thread on which safety to use and how to fit them.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=84002.0
Some people have complained about a safety that isn't quite as positive when engaged. After working on 5 (none had this) I think it is just a little tolerance thing or soft spring on the safety detent. Here's a thread where a member shared where to get a stronger detent spring that gets really positive engagement.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=85575.0
Side note: the grease they ship these with is pretty goopy. Give your pistol a good cleaning, even in the sear cage and safety area. Cleans things up just like you'd hope. If that doesn't get the positive engagement you're looking for then snag a stronger spring.
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So I've got the CZ 75 compact... any reason to pass this up? Very tempting at the price point. Debating on selling the 75C and getting this sucker instead.
Flared magwell, extended mag release, pic rail, forward slide serrations, as well as any of the durability improvements from the OG SP-01.
What say you guys? Would you jump ship?
It depends on use and preference. These are heavier and a little thicker.... Ugh... I can't answer this, it's like asking me to chose which child I would get rid of. I can only answer with buy it and keep the classic!
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Lol! I will say that your videos are forcing my hand ;)
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Lol! I will say that your videos are forcing my hand ;)
Yeah yeah... Those quick and dirty ones are not public on my channel bc they have poor quality. Filming with my phone is a last resort but I don't have a studio ready to shoot video at any moment so sometimes that's the best I've got. Sorry to all who watch the low quality videos, they're meant to answer questions quickly.
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I love this compact.
I just finished putting in a bunch of CGW parts.
It's now a single action gun with a trigger just below 3 pounds.
I also fitted an extended left side safety from the Tactical sport. Much better now.
I also cut 2mm off the slide stop lever and rounded the end so it wouldn't protrude so much.
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I love this compact.
I just finished putting in a bunch of CGW parts.
It's now a single action gun with a trigger just below 3 pounds.
I also fitted an extended left side safety from the Tactical sport. Much better now.
I also cut 2mm off the slide stop lever and rounded the end so it wouldn't protrude so much.
Welcome to the forum. Congratulations and what a first post, way to get after it!
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The safeties are pretty thin... Some people don't get a good reach to engage them (depending on hand size or grip style). Here's the thread on which safety to use and how to fit them.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=84002.0
Some people have complained about a safety that isn't quite as positive when engaged. After working on 5 (none had this) I think it is just a little tolerance thing or soft spring on the safety detent. Here's a thread where a member shared where to get a stronger detent spring that gets really positive engagement.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=85575.0
Side note: the grease they ship these with is pretty goopy. Give your pistol a good cleaning, even in the sear cage and safety area. Cleans things up just like you'd hope. If that doesn't get the positive engagement you're looking for then snag a stronger spring.
ahhh, gotcha... easy enough. I'll just blast it out with a spray bottle of Ed's red solvent i made up and let it drip dry.... CZ's are pretty easy to get down to the nitty gritty, unlike 1911's
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and I'm a sick man. I shouldn't have done it, but I grabbed one of the last ones from Mrgundealer to make it a pair. being that CZ seems to be phasing out the ambi safety guns like the 85b/85 Combat and the like, I figured might as well grab a backup. Next on my acquisition list is a full size like the 75 BD or the Omega Convertible
EDIT:. It looks like most places are all using the same distributor and just drop shipping theirs, cuz whenever I order one from Mrgundealer the other dealers drop to the same amount (or close to it) within the next few hours as their software updates. The only place with any REAL stock is Czcustom, who has 60 in stock
oh, and one last question. I know that the weak spot on a CZ (from what I've read) is that the slide stops usually fail at 7k-10k rounds so I figured I should at least scope out a replacement. Do I order the same slide stop as the P-01?
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I am buying my SP-01 Compact from K-Var, and they assured me the sights on it are tritium. Has anyone gotten one with tritium sights?
It does not come with the tritium night sights, maybe it was an upgrade they did? Read thru this post,..the first thing most of us do , is replace the sights.
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and I'm a sick man. I shouldn't have done it, but I grabbed one of the last ones from Mrgundealer to make it a pair. being that CZ seems to be phasing out the ambi safety guns like the 85b/85 Combat and the like, I figured might as well grab a backup. Next on my acquisition list is a full size like the 75 BD or the Omega Convertible
EDIT:. It looks like most places are all using the same distributor and just drop shipping theirs, cuz whenever I order one from Mrgundealer the other dealers drop to the same amount (or close to it) within the next few hours as their software updates. The only place with any REAL stock is Czcustom, who has 60 in stock
oh, and one last question. I know that the weak spot on a CZ (from what I've read) is that the slide stops usually fail at 7k-10k rounds so I figured I should at least scope out a replacement. Do I order the same slide stop as the P-01?
Well Wormraper, looks like you are quickly catching the CZickness with the rest of us. Your temperament may warrant that you never order anything from CZ Custom or Cajun Gun Works, you'll be rendered nearly incurable for an indeterminable amount of time O0. These were buried in that thread about the safeties... Not the place one might look for the answer.
I put the P01 slide stop on the steel compact and it fits and functions fine. I guess I will order a new P01 slide stop.
What is the difference between the P01 slide stop and the "SP-01 Compact" slide stop? Something I mentioned in one of the other threads is how I dislike how far the slide stop sticks out on the right side of the frame of these "SP-01 Compacts"...
TIA,
K.
Good question I am interested in that as well.
My p01 slide stop doesn't stick out so much, has bigger "steps" where the gripping surface for your thumb is and they sit back farther (the slide stop sits closer to the safety on the frame). It looks just like the slide stop on my Shadow, but the Shadow slide stop doesn't function in the compact. With my high support hand grip the slide stop digs into the meaty "thumb palm" of my support hand. That's why I like the thin Rami slide stop, but it also doesn't fit the compact.
Look at the pictures of the Shadow and the SP01 Compact side to side in your post "A rare batch" and you can see what I mean.
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Also, any luck finding a lower profile slide stop that works?
The lowest profile slide stop that works I've found so far is the P01 slide stop. The Rami slide stop works on my Shadow, but not on the SP01 Compact.
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ok, from what I'm looking at, the P-01 slide stop appears to work. with how often I've heard of these breaking it would make me nervous if the slide stop was some odd ball one that couldn't be replaced
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ok, from what I'm looking at, the P-01 slide stop appears to work. with how often I've heard of these breaking it would make me nervous if the slide stop was some odd ball one that couldn't be replaced
For sure. CZ is one of the better brands that I have owned for interchangeability and having all the parts available. I need to look up or ask in a thread to see just how often members have these break and if they are mostly in competition guns or general use... I've shot about 3000 rounds the last 12 months so none of my CZ's have the high round count yet.
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ok, from what I'm looking at, the P-01 slide stop appears to work. with how often I've heard of these breaking it would make me nervous if the slide stop was some odd ball one that couldn't be replaced
For sure. CZ is one of the better brands that I have owned for interchangeability and having all the parts available. I need to look up or ask in a thread to see just how often members have these break and if they are mostly in competition guns or general use... I've shot about 3000 rounds the last 12 months so none of my CZ's have the high round count yet.
yeah, I've researched a bit and it seems that there are a few bad batches that had early slide stop breaks, but CZ Customer Service has given an estimated 10,000 round lifespan out of them (at least from threads I've read).... and again, I just got a little worried that maybe this "unique" batch WAS really unique and years down the road we'd be up a creek without a paddle for spare parts. If the P-01 slide stop works well then I'm game as I don't see that going away anytime soon. I emailed CZ-USA just to make sure
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just contacted CZ-USA and talked to Daniel in parts and he said that the SP-01 Compact (as we're dubbing it) should take the standard CZ-75 compact slide stop (I'm not sure if the P-01 and the Steel compact use the same slide stop or not)...
you have the regular compact don't your Scarlett? maybe you could give it a test
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just contacted CZ-USA and talked to Daniel in parts and he said that the SP-01 Compact (as we're dubbing it) should take the standard CZ-75 compact slide stop (I'm not sure if the P-01 and the Steel compact use the same slide stop or not)...
you have the regular compact don't your Scarlett? maybe you could give it a test
Tested... More like documented.
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Do those help? I'm almost positive the Tactical Sport slide stop won't work since it's frame is wider but the rail portions aren't as thick. So the area of the purple line wouldn't be wide enough on a Tactical Sport slide stop. But I don't have one to verify this on.
He likely just hasn't worked on one or seen one in person yet... Ha, in an ironic twist it's sort of a good sign he didn't know since he hasn't had to work on one for repairs. [emoji48] The guys over there have always been helpful and very accurate with production guns though.
Scott and David and Cajun Gun Works along with Stuart at CZ Custom have been a great help in our process of verifying what parts were used/can be used on this one time batch of pistols since they were new to all of us. They're ahead because of their awesome support and then some gents sending these pistols in to them for upgrades.
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oh dear, that's sad that I got wrong info from CZ themselves lol.
I had hoped they would work since this thread mentioned the P-01 slide stop works in the CZ 75 compact standard (but didn't mention it working the other way around), and the P-01 slide stop you said worked in the this 99021 compact... so please tell me if I'm wrong, so far the only one confirmed to work is the P-01 slide stop?
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oh dear, that's sad that I got wrong info from CZ themselves lol.
I had hoped they would work since this thread mentioned the P-01 slide stop works in the CZ 75 compact standard (but didn't mention it working the other way around), and the P-01 slide stop you said worked in the this 99021 compact... so please tell me if I'm wrong, so far the only one confirmed to work is the P-01 slide stop?
Correct, the only confirmed slide stop that is compatible with the SP-01 Compact 99021 is the P-01 slide stop. Is there a reason you were wanting the classic Compact slide stop? Most people prefer the P-01 slide stop design, but not everyone so I'm just curious.
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oh dear, that's sad that I got wrong info from CZ themselves lol.
I had hoped they would work since this thread mentioned the P-01 slide stop works in the CZ 75 compact standard (but didn't mention it working the other way around), and the P-01 slide stop you said worked in the this 99021 compact... so please tell me if I'm wrong, so far the only one confirmed to work is the P-01 slide stop?
Correct, the only confirmed slide stop that is compatible with the SP-01 Compact 99021 is the P-01 slide stop. Is there a reason you were wanting the classic Compact slide stop? Most people prefer the P-01 slide stop design, but not everyone so I'm just curious.
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nah, just the status of having more than one slide stop work would have been handy for compatibility's sake...Just also wanted to make sure i got the right one when ordering a backup (would prefer NOT to play slide stop roulette when ordering and waste money picking up the wrong one lol)
anywho, just got a reply back from Stuart Wong at CZ custom as I had messaged CZ-USA and CZcustom at the same time.
his exact words were "The PCR will fit the pistol, if you do the P01 slide stop you will want to make sure it doesn't interfer with the operation of the safety."
so it looks like we have two that will fit.
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Curse this 52 page thread. I was trying to hold out for a P10C but saw one of these compacts show up locally and folded to pressure. No will power and I blame everyone of you. Now I just have to get one of those rear sights like the P-01 Omega has and some lok grips and a 16 pound hammer spring. You people are killing my wallet. 😁. David
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Curse this 52 page thread. I was trying to hold out for a P10C but saw one of these compacts show up locally and folded to pressure. No will power and I blame everyone of you. Now I just have to get one of those rear sights like the P-01 Omega has and some lok grips and a 16 pound hammer spring. You people are killing my wallet. 😁. David
tell me about it. I had just bought a glock 17 and was just perusing the CZ models to see what I would want sometime in the future for my first CZ and the POW!! this thing comes out of nowhere and I'm out $1100 as I pick up 2 of these... uggggggggg
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nah, just the status of having more than one slide stop work would have been handy for compatibility's sake...Just also wanted to make sure i got the right one when ordering a backup (would prefer NOT to play slide stop roulette when ordering and waste money picking up the wrong one lol)
anywho, just got a reply back from Stuart Wong at CZ custom as I had messaged CZ-USA and CZcustom at the same time.
his exact words were "The PCR will fit the pistol, if you do the P01 slide stop you will want to make sure it doesn't interfer with the operation of the safety."
so it looks like we have two that will fit.
Nice find! I didn't realize the PCR had a different slide stop than the P-01. So we know that two slide stops will work:
1- the P-01 slide stop
2- the PCR slide stop
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nah, just the status of having more than one slide stop work would have been handy for compatibility's sake...Just also wanted to make sure i got the right one when ordering a backup (would prefer NOT to play slide stop roulette when ordering and waste money picking up the wrong one lol)
anywho, just got a reply back from Stuart Wong at CZ custom as I had messaged CZ-USA and CZcustom at the same time.
his exact words were "The PCR will fit the pistol, if you do the P01 slide stop you will want to make sure it doesn't interfer with the operation of the safety."
so it looks like we have two that will fit.
Nice find! I didn't realize the PCR had a different slide stop than the P-01. So we know that two slide stops will work:
1- the P-01 slide stop
2- the PCR slide stop
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yeah, the P-01 has a bigger purchase on the finger with aggressive serrations. also if you look at them closely you can see that the P-01 slide stop's external portion extends back towards the back of the gun further than the PCR, thus why he wanted to make sure the P-01 slide stop wouldn't interfere with the safety.
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yeah, the P-01 has a bigger purchase on the finger with aggressive serrations. also if you look at them closely you can see that the P-01 slide stop's external portion extends back towards the back of the gun further and the PCR, thus why he wanted to make sure the P-01 slide stop wouldn't interfere with the safety.
Yup, I had to go look at them after you posted this. One of the members tried a P-01 slide stop with his SP-01 Compact and verified it fits so we have confirmation for both.
PS if Stuart ever reads this, thanks for all your help!!
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In concerns about quantity available of these, thought it might be good to look at serial # ranges.
I purchased two start of last November from Tombstone Tactical.
Lower # is C0735xx. xx are last two numeric digits.
Higher # is C0767xx. xx are last two numeric digits.
If others want to share higher/lower than these it might help to identify actual quantity produced and/or available. But if these are overruns, etc, not all of the ranges we see on serials may in fact be stateside... Regardless, would be good info nonetheless.
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The one I have now is CO720xx. The one this replaced was CO777xx.
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The one I got recently is serial# CO732xx
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This gun's serial number is C0753XX.
Chris
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It appears to me that the supposed supply of 500 of the CZ steel frame SP-01 is drying up fast. Several of the online gun shops I check daily are out of them.
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just picked mine up, and had to give it a thorough bath and brushing. now lubricated and back together.
i read somewhere that dry firing is not advised, can anyone confirm this for me?
may try to read through these forums tonight to see what cheap/first part changes i should do, i bookmarked Scarlett Pistol's trigger pull post. CZ Custom is not far from me
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Welcome to the forum. For dry firing use a snap cap or #83 O-ring.
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just picked mine up, and had to give it a thorough bath and brushing. now lubricated and back together.
i read somewhere that dry firing is not advised, can anyone confirm this for me?
may try to read through these forums tonight to see what cheap/first part changes i should do, i bookmarked Scarlett Pistol's trigger pull post. CZ Custom is not far from me
I would say high volume dry fire with the factory Firing Pin Retaining Pin is not advised. Where the actual line between low and high volume dry fire is? Who knows.
There are a few options to allow dry fire with reduced or eliminated risk. CGW offers a improved design FPRP. As mentioned above you can also palace an O-ring behind the FP during high volume dry fire. I choose to use both options personally.
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Curse this 52 page thread. I was trying to hold out for a P10C but saw one of these compacts show up locally and folded to pressure. No will power and I blame everyone of you. Now I just have to get one of those rear sights like the P-01 Omega has and some lok grips and a 16 pound hammer spring. You people are killing my wallet. 😁. David
tell me about it. I had just bought a glock 17 and was just perusing the CZ models to see what I would want sometime in the future for my first CZ and the POW!! this thing comes out of nowhere and I'm out $1100 as I pick up 2 of these... uggggggggg
I saw two of these at the gun show a couple days ago. I briefly, very briefly, considered buying both. One for me and one as a gift to my youngest son. Neither of us need one of them and I know for a fact I'd have mine at the range banging away with it (lessening any future collector value due to rarity/condition).
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I tried scanning thru this long thread again but didn't seem to find it... Didn't someone write up a separate thread that talked about all the upgrades and accessories for this gun?
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CZ Custom http://czcustom.com/ (http://czcustom.com/) and Cajun Gun Works https://cajungunworks.com/ (https://cajungunworks.com/) have all kinds of upgrade parts and services available. It all comes down to what you want to use your gun for and what you want to change about your stock gun.
I converted my P-01 Compact over to single action only so that it is like my other two CZ guns. Here's a list of the parts I bought from CGW to do it:
5SAO Single Action Only Aluminum Trigger (your preference)
TR-PIN Floating Trigger Pin
20C Hammer Spring Strut Compact (so you don't have to drive out the pins for the disco and old hammer)
RHK Race Hammer Kit (your preference)
HPIN Hammer Pin
SRS-1 Short Reset System
It is recommended that you also get a starter punch or spring-loaded center punch. Hammer pins and trigger pin can be hard to move.
There's all kinds of sight options too- night sights and fiberoptics. It depends on what you want to use the gun for and your personal preferences.
It might be best if you shot the gun some while figuring out what you want to use the gun for and what you'd like to change about it. There's lots of helpful threads and friendly knowledgeable people on this forum.
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I tried scanning thru this long thread again but didn't seem to find it... Didn't someone write up a separate thread that talked about all the upgrades and accessories for this gun?
This isn't every upgrade and accessory, but you may be thinking of this thread.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=83591.0
Here's a thread with a link to the Playlist with videos on totally taking manual safety CZ's apart, upgrading, and back together again. It's mostly filmed with these SP-01 Compacts.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=85985.0
Did you have any specifics you wanted to accomplish?
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Received C0734xx today, didn't have enough daylight to do any shooting but I did get it cleaned up. I'm really surprised at how thin the safety levers are, nice for carry but I could see missing it if you were in a hurry. I definitely like the longer (than P-01) beavertail, the short ones seem to dig into my hand pretty badly.
As for fit and finish, it has less hammer camming than my SP-01 did from the box and the internal machining is a bit cleaner than my SP as well.
Just doing presentations and dry firing I can say that the rear sight has to go. I prefer a front dot and an all black U-notch rear, so I'll have to swap it out. A friend is making some holsters for my SP-01 and my full rail Operator this week so I'll likely have him make an IWB for this as well, it's heavy but the right holster can manage it I think.
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I tried scanning thru this long thread again but didn't seem to find it... Didn't someone write up a separate thread that talked about all the upgrades and accessories for this gun?
This isn't every upgrade and accessory, but you may be thinking of this thread.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=83591.0
Here's a thread with a link to the Playlist with videos on totally taking manual safety CZ's apart, upgrading, and back together again. It's mostly filmed with these SP-01 Compacts.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=85985.0
Did you have any specifics you wanted to accomplish?
I think the thread I'm remembering talked about all the different CGW options? Might be miss remembering
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Here's a very good one.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=83591.0 (http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=83591.0)
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I tried scanning thru this long thread again but didn't seem to find it... Didn't someone write up a separate thread that talked about all the upgrades and accessories for this gun?
Wrote this in a hurry. Just post what parts you may have more questions about and what not. Is this more of what you were looking for?
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=86691.0
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My SP01 compact and I aren't going to be seeing each other for a few years due to my new duty station. So I am thinking of having it NP3+ coated while I am gone. The stock finish isn't that great on CZs and kinda like the look.
That and sights and I am done
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My SP01 compact and I aren't going to be seeing each other for a few years due to my new duty station. So I am thinking of having it NP3+ coated while I am gone. The stock finish isn't that great on CZs and kinda like the look.
Dang that is a sad story. Thank you for your service!
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These pistols do seem to enjoy a bit higher level of fit and finish than a lot of my other CZs. I almost hated to swap the nicely working hammer/sear with my CGW Pro kit parts. Almost.
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My SP01 compact and I aren't going to be seeing each other for a few years due to my new duty station. So I am thinking of having it NP3+ coated while I am gone. The stock finish isn't that great on CZs and kinda like the look.
That and sights and I am done
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I'm a big fan of the NP3 finishes. One of my 1911s is the Sig railed nickel that has NP3 over stainless and it's beautiful. Having your SP01C done while gone might make for a nice welcome home gift to yourself when you come back.
Thank you for your service and take care while stationed away from the US.
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My SP01 compact and I aren't going to be seeing each other for a few years due to my new duty station. So I am thinking of having it NP3+ coated while I am gone. The stock finish isn't that great on CZs and kinda like the look.
Dang that is a sad story. Thank you for your service!
Don't feel too bad for me ,I am going to hawaii. Which is absolutely the nicest place the army has sent me. I've heard a lot of stories of service members shipping thier firearms to Hawaii and then a week or so later thier homes get broken into and thier firearms are missing.
Not willing to risk that with what I have now.
My SP01 compact and I aren't going to be seeing each other for a few years due to my new duty station. So I am thinking of having it NP3+ coated while I am gone. The stock finish isn't that great on CZs and kinda like the look.
That and sights and I am done
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I'm a big fan of the NP3 finishes. One of my 1911s is the Sig railed nickel that has NP3 over stainless and it's beautiful. Having your SP01C done while gone might make for a nice welcome home gift to yourself when you come back.
Thank you for your service and take care while stationed away from the US.
Just hearing how easy it is to clean has me sold. Not sure if I want to do just the frame or the internals as well.
Thank you. And I think I'll be okay in Hawaii ,maybe some sun burn lol . So much nicer than everywhere the army sent me in the past .
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Mr gun dealer all sold out. Impact guns seems to be the only one with any stock left at the cheaper $540-$545 price, but a few places like Buds and Kygunco still have a small handful. Well, that and Czcustom has a about 50 ish
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Be careful in Hawaii. I did a lot of TDY there and the rip tides can be a b***h
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Mr gun dealer all sold out. Impact guns seems to be the only one with any stock left at the cheaper $540-$545 price, but a few places like Buds and Kygunco still have a small handful. Well, that and Czcustom has a about 50 ish
Looks like Buds is out as well. That's where I bought mine
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I think Buds and Mr. Gun Dealer were pulling from the same distributor stock. Buds always had the SAME stock that MrGunDealer.com had and whenenever one site went down the other one went down in stock as well (buds would just update their stock about 2-3 hours after someone bought one at MrGunDealer as I think their softward doesn't update as quickly). I think a LOT of the dealers did that. Impact guns has only 4 left
I'm just waiting to pick up my two from my FFL... sadly he's a backyard FFL and working 12 hour shifts today and tomorrow, so I'm most likely going to get them Thursday or Friday :(
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Buds still has them. https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/mobile/product/25324/cz-usa_75_compact_semi_auto_pistol_9mm_luger_37/_barrel_14_
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Mr gun dealer all sold out. Impact guns seems to be the only one with any stock left at the cheaper $540-$545 price, but a few places like Buds and Kygunco still have a small handful. Well, that and Czcustom has a about 50 ish
CZC has them on sale for 525. It's pretty hard to resist buying one.
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Mr gun dealer all sold out. Impact guns seems to be the only one with any stock left at the cheaper $540-$545 price, but a few places like Buds and Kygunco still have a small handful. Well, that and Czcustom has a about 50 ish
CZC has them on sale for 525. It's pretty hard to resist buying one.
Nice. They were $575 a few days ago. I would have bought one but since they're one city over from me I'm looking at $45 taxes on them
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You guys are killing me! I'm trying to hold out for a P10-C! This is literally my favorite handgun and I've been trying not to buy another one... 😣. Let's change the conversation to... shoes... Yeah, shoes are good, right?!
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You guys are killing me! I'm trying to hold out for a P10-C! This is literally my favorite handgun and I've been trying not to buy another one... 😣. Let's change the conversation to... shoes... Yeah, shoes are good, right?!
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Get the second one. We're all enablers
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You guys are killing me! I'm trying to hold out for a P10-C! This is literally my favorite handgun and I've been trying not to buy another one... 😣. Let's change the conversation to... shoes... Yeah, shoes are good, right?!
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Get the second one. We're all enablers
Trust me, I know! That's how I ended up with the first one - and two other pistols within the same month.
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FYI I just saw that CZC has the SP-01 Compact on a 10 day sale. They are priced at $525.00 for any of you still on the fence about getting one. O0
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Here is a Compact rail we did some sight work, trigger work and safety.
neat little guns. ( sorry, IPod photo)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/eerw/Forum%20stuff/compact%20rail_nLOGO_zpsvynxy73v.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/eerw/media/Forum%20stuff/compact%20rail_nLOGO_zpsvynxy73v.jpg.html)
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Buds still has them. https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/mobile/product/25324/cz-usa_75_compact_semi_auto_pistol_9mm_luger_37/_barrel_14_
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Let's change the conversation to... shoes... Yeah, shoes are good, right?!
My SP-01 Compact fits perfectly in my running shoe. O0
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My LGS still has 2......I could probably get it for 575 which is what it cost me from Buds after transfer
Why do I need 2 though??
Lol
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Why do I need 2 though??
One for carry, one to shoot until it's a smoothbore.
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Let's change the conversation to... shoes... Yeah, shoes are good, right?!
My SP-01 Compact fits perfectly in my running shoe. O0
LOL! That's a hella big shoe!
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Oak Hill still has them too... http://oakhillguns.com/pistol/cz-usa/cz-75-9mm-compact-rail.html
Yes, the list is shrinking!... https://www.slickguns.com/search/apachesolr_search/806703990217?view=list
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Here is a Compact rail we did some sight work, trigger work and safety.
neat little guns. ( sorry, IPod photo)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/eerw/Forum%20stuff/compact%20rail_nLOGO_zpsvynxy73v.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/eerw/media/Forum%20stuff/compact%20rail_nLOGO_zpsvynxy73v.jpg.html)
Ok, fess up...what safety lever fits?
I was looking at mine earlier and thinking I could mill off the extra frame width and use SP-01 controls. But then the guns would turn out to be some historically significant thing with my luck!
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Went to CZCustoms' site and stared at them for a good 30 minutes before I chickened out... :o
I'd pick one up in a heartbeat if I had a need but this is more of a want.
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Here is a Compact rail we did some sight work, trigger work and safety.
neat little guns. ( sorry, IPod photo)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/eerw/Forum%20stuff/compact%20rail_nLOGO_zpsvynxy73v.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/eerw/media/Forum%20stuff/compact%20rail_nLOGO_zpsvynxy73v.jpg.html)
Ok, fess up...what safety lever fits?
I was looking at mine earlier and thinking I could mill off the extra frame width and use SP-01 controls. But then the guns would turn out to be some historically significant thing with my luck!
The Tactical Sport Right Side Safety will work if you want one. Not sure if that is what Stuart and the guys at CZ Custom used on this one and I am curious to hear from Stuart.
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Here is a Compact rail we did some sight work, trigger work and safety.
neat little guns. ( sorry, IPod photo)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/eerw/Forum%20stuff/compact%20rail_nLOGO_zpsvynxy73v.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/eerw/media/Forum%20stuff/compact%20rail_nLOGO_zpsvynxy73v.jpg.html)
Ok, fess up...what safety lever fits?
I was looking at mine earlier and thinking I could mill off the extra frame width and use SP-01 controls. But then the guns would turn out to be some historically significant thing with my luck!
The Tactical Sport Right Side Safety will work if you want one. Not sure if that is what Stuart and the guys at CZ Custom used on this one and I am curious to hear from Stuart.
It is the TS safety LHS lever. I was just coming over here to brag about it... guess Stuart beat me to it! He offered to blend it into the frame for me so it won't stick out below the line in the frame. Looks sharp. I got some G10 grips and a JMCK holster on order. Can't wait! 8)
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It is the TS safety LHS lever. I was just coming over here to brag about it... guess Stuart beat me to it! He offered to blend it into the frame for me so it won't stick out below the line in the frame. Looks sharp. I got some G10 grips and a JMCK holster on order. Can't wait! 8)
Dang, that is slick looking. I think I am going to try and blend my Tactical Sport Safeties like that on mine. Congrats on such a good looking pistol!
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Does anyone on this thread both a P07 (or a P09) and the SP01 Compact? The reason I ask is that I want to get a low profile slide release like the P07/09 has for my SP01 Compact. If I could get someone to see if the 07/09 slide stop works in their SP01 Compact, I'd appreciate it. I hate to spend $35 plus shipping for a slide stop I can't use. Thanks.
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got my 2 in today. NICE looking and feeling guns. Only thing that was kind of weird was that their finish on the barrels and slide rails isn't the greatest. there was actual wear marks on the barrel and the barrel hood. something I've NEVER seen in any of my other guns on a factory fresh gun (usually the only wear you ever see is on that raised bar that the hammer slides across on the slide. you know, the one that's raised just over the firing pin channel)
The barrel exterior doesn't feel glossy either. More like plain oxide coating of my AR barrel exteriors
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got my 2 in today. NICE looking and feeling guns. Only thing that was kind of weird was that their finish on the barrels and slide rails isn't the greatest. there was actual wear marks on the barrel and the barrel hood. something I've NEVER seen in any of my other guns on a factory fresh gun (usually the only wear you ever see is on that raised bar that the hammer slides across on the slide. you know, the one that's raised just over the firing pin channel)
The barrel exterior doesn't feel glossy either. More like plain oxide coating of my AR barrel exteriors
My barrel was the same way. Some of my CZs look like the barrel has been used for a thousand rounds and others look slick and smooth.
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got my 2 in today. NICE looking and feeling guns. Only thing that was kind of weird was that their finish on the barrels and slide rails isn't the greatest. there was actual wear marks on the barrel and the barrel hood. something I've NEVER seen in any of my other guns on a factory fresh gun (usually the only wear you ever see is on that raised bar that the hammer slides across on the slide. you know, the one that's raised just over the firing pin channel)
The barrel exterior doesn't feel glossy either. More like plain oxide coating of my AR barrel exteriors
My barrel was the same way. Some of my CZs look like the barrel has been used for a thousand rounds and others look slick and smooth.
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ahhh, so it's a CZ thing then? weird, just made it feel like I hadn't gotten a new gun
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got my 2 in today. NICE looking and feeling guns. Only thing that was kind of weird was that their finish on the barrels and slide rails isn't the greatest. there was actual wear marks on the barrel and the barrel hood. something I've NEVER seen in any of my other guns on a factory fresh gun (usually the only wear you ever see is on that raised bar that the hammer slides across on the slide. you know, the one that's raised just over the firing pin channel)
The barrel exterior doesn't feel glossy either. More like plain oxide coating of my AR barrel exteriors
My barrel was the same way. Some of my CZs look like the barrel has been used for a thousand rounds and others look slick and smooth.
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ahhh, so it's a CZ thing then? weird, just made it feel like I hadn't gotten a new gun
Yup
My new PCR which is still NIB came sealed from deguns.net and the barrel already has smileys on it
The older Sig barrels used to be the same, one rack of the slide and the gun looked 10 years old
I guess with CZ it adds to the Eastern European look lol
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lol, good to know. Well, now I'm silly excited. I'm taking the wife shooting this friday (built her a custom AR-15 for her Xmas gift) so I may have to take this sucker out with me and see how she bangs
side note. those grip panels have to go. chunky I can deal with. these suckers are STICKY though. just doesn't feel comfortable in my hand. any slimmer ones that are highly recommended ??? maybe something with a DECENTLY aggressive grip texture (not talking G10 texture or anything)
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I put VZ Tactical Diamonds on my full sized CZ and they feel great.
Look at the VZ Frags or the LOK grenades for grip without bite
The Diamonds are nowhere near as aggressive as some people make them out to be
The grip on my Shield 45 and M&P 2.0 is way more aggressive
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I put VZ Tactical Diamonds on my full sized CZ and they feel great.
Look at the VZ Frags or the LOK grenades for grip without bite
The Diamonds are nowhere near as aggressive as some people make them out to be
The grip on my Shield 45 and M&P 2.0 is way more aggressive
has anyone tried the cool hand Z grips?
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gotcha, I'll take a look. I carry the Shield .45, so I know what you mean about aggressive. I had to take some 400 grit sand paper to the shield grips to soften them a bit because anything past 50 round and my palms started to feel it
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lol, good to know. Well, now I'm silly excited. I'm taking the wife shooting this friday (built her a custom AR-15 for her Xmas gift) so I may have to take this sucker out with me and see how she bangs
side note. those grip panels have to go. chunky I can deal with. these suckers are STICKY though. just doesn't feel comfortable in my hand. any slimmer ones that are highly recommended ??? maybe something with a DECENTLY aggressive grip texture (not talking G10 texture or anything)
I have VZ Tactical Diamond on my Shadow and I put LOK diamond pattern on my SP-01 compact. They are almost exactly the same except the LOK's are $15 cheaper. Both are great quality grips and are very thin. You can't go wrong with either one. Both have several different grip textures and customer service from both companies was great. Good Luck !!!
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I'm looking at the Lok Bogies grips here (this color too) as I want a little pizazz to the gun too
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81LTaZTmKiL._SL1500_.jpg)
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I have LOK grenades on mine - they're great.
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I'm looking at the Lok Bogies grips here (this color too) as I want a little pizazz to the gun too
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81LTaZTmKiL._SL1500_.jpg)
Bogies have the palm swell if I'm not mistaken so will not be any thinner?
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there's a bogie and a bogie palm swell, according to the web site this is the thinner version
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Here is a Compact rail we did some sight work, trigger work and safety.
neat little guns. ( sorry, IPod photo)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/eerw/Forum%20stuff/compact%20rail_nLOGO_zpsvynxy73v.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/eerw/media/Forum%20stuff/compact%20rail_nLOGO_zpsvynxy73v.jpg.html)
Ok, fess up...what safety lever fits?
I was looking at mine earlier and thinking I could mill off the extra frame width and use SP-01 controls. But then the guns would turn out to be some historically significant thing with my luck!
The Tactical Sport Right Side Safety will work if you want one. Not sure if that is what Stuart and the guys at CZ Custom used on this one and I am curious to hear from Stuart.
It is the TS safety LHS lever. I was just coming over here to brag about it... guess Stuart beat me to it! He offered to blend it into the frame for me so it won't stick out below the line in the frame. Looks sharp. I got some G10 grips and a JMCK holster on order. Can't wait! 8)
Very nice idea and very nice work by Stuart and the folks?.Hmmmmm
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wow, mag's a bit tight too. I got 14 in 3 of the 4 mags, but the 4th one is TIGHT... couldn't only get 13 in there and literally NO WAY to get a 4th in.... loading them up to sit overnight to go shooting in the morning
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I'm looking at the Lok Bogies grips here (this color too) as I want a little pizazz to the gun too
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81LTaZTmKiL._SL1500_.jpg)
If you talk to the folks at LOK they will make any of their grips in any color they have in stock even if that combination isn't on the web site. I picked a color from a 1911 grip and they made a set for my SP-01C. Very nice people at LOK.
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realy? that's badass!! there's a few colors on there I'd REALLY like to get, but they don't have for my gun, although that blue one looks cool
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realy? that's badass!! there's a few colors on there I'd REALLY like to get, but they don't have for my gun, although that blue one looks cool
Yup. I custom ordered some grips after looking through his G10 supplier. He only charges the cost of getting the material so no huge upcharge. Everyone always compliments me on the grips thinking they're VZ grips. I kinda wish I had some business cards from Jayson so I could hand them out.
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realy? that's badass!! there's a few colors on there I'd REALLY like to get, but they don't have for my gun, although that blue one looks cool
Yup. I custom ordered some grips after looking through his G10 supplier. He only charges the cost of getting the material so no huge upcharge. Everyone always compliments me on the grips thinking they're VZ grips. I kinda wish I had some business cards from Jayson so I could hand them out.
+1 on Jason and LOK grips. Very accommodating and great to deal with. I will order from them again when I'm looking for grips.
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In concerns about quantity available of these, thought it might be good to look at serial # ranges.
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If others want to share higher/lower than these it might help to identify actual quantity produced and/or available. But if these are overruns, etc, not all of the ranges we see on serials may in fact be stateside... Regardless, would be good info nonetheless.
Low thus far shared is C0720xx.
High thus far shared is C0777xx.
That's an ~5700 number range.
Guns at C0720xx, C0732xx, C0734xx, C0735xx, C0753xx, C0767xx, & CO777xx.
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Anacortes has 10 back in stock
http://www.anacortesgunshop.com/cz-75-compact-9mm-rail-steel-frame-manual-safe-148051?source=_stock_subscribe
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In concerns about quantity available of these, thought it might be good to look at serial # ranges.
[...]
If others want to share higher/lower than these it might help to identify actual quantity produced and/or available. But if these are overruns, etc, not all of the ranges we see on serials may in fact be stateside... Regardless, would be good info nonetheless.
Low thus far shared is C0720xx.
High thus far shared is C0777xx.
That's an ~5700 number range.
Guns at C0720xx, C0732xx, C0734xx, C0735xx, C0753xx, C0767xx, & CO777xx.
And the one shown on the CZC page is CZ095xxx. As one will notice by looking at current CZUB production, all their firearm models appear to share the same serial number sequence unlike the old days with a different model having its own numbering sequence. This current range will give you an idea of overall production and proofing going on at CZUB for a general period for all models and makes it difficult to identify the production run total for a specific model. It's still an interesting exercise to see.
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Anacortes has 10 back in stock
http://www.anacortesgunshop.com/cz-75-compact-9mm-rail-steel-frame-manual-safe-148051?source=_stock_subscribe
Wonder where they are getting them. Bill Hicks doesn't even list them any longer
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And the one shown on the CZC page is CZ095xxx. As one will notice by looking at current CZUB production, all their firearm models appear to share the same serial number sequence unlike the old days with a different model having its own numbering sequence. This current range will give you an idea of overall production and proofing going on at CZUB for a general period for all models and makes it difficult to identify the production run total for a specific model. It's still an interesting exercise to see.
I thought that was how the serial numbers worked. So to be clear for others and to verify I understand correctly as well. Let's say CZ UB has 10 manufacturing lines up and running today. Today they are producing 2,000 total serialized items (to keep it simple for the example serial numbers 80,000 to 82,000). Today 300 of the SP-01 Compacts will be finished within those 2,000 daily serialized items. So, they will get one of those serial numbers, sequentially, as they reach that point in production today.
This is opposed to saying that 1,600 SP-01 Compacts were produced in total. Therefore, they got serial numbers 80,000 through 81,600. Am I correct that this is NOT how it works, and the first example is the way serial numbers are assigned in CZ UB production?
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Single Action Only Conversion Videos:
I had recorded these a while ago, but just didn't get them edited and uploaded with the first large batch of tutorial videos. I know converting to Single Action Only has come up a few times on here, so here's the quote of the thread where I was housing this video tutorial playlist. Hope this helps whomever may be interested in doing this.
I made two videos about converting to Single Action Only. One is more just an explanation of what to do and how it works. The other actually walks through a conversion. I know this comes up pretty often on the forum so hopefully these can be a helpful reference.
The video just explaining Single Action Only conversion - (think high level explanation):
https://youtu.be/lv-FkhbZWRA
The video walking through the steps of converting to Single Action Only:
https://youtu.be/LnixFxN6Kec
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Nice job.
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Nice job.
Thanks, hope these help. Like I mentioned, I will keep putting out what I already produced and make news ones when I get requests. I ordered a fiber optic front site and the CGW bushing for one of mine, so I am going to record those as well. Those will be down the pipe line a bit unless there is some overwhelming response for them.
BTW If anyone has requests go to that thread and let me know.
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soooooooooooooooooo, umm. I got to shoot one of my two today.... holy !@##e, I'm in love. took me a couple of mags to get used to the dinky little sights, but I was hitting targets at 15 and 20 yards consistently. near the end I had gotten to the point where I couldn't miss. The gun had more recoil than I had hyped it up to to be, but that thing DOESN'T kick very much at ALL. Only thing I have to complain about is
A. sights. Might throw on the fiber optic front if I can sometime down the road. Pretty cheap and easy mod I believe.
B. I was getting some finger slap from the trigger. my trigger finger had a bit of an ache from it popping back so hard. Nothing wild, just a minor complaint.
if this is how all CZ's shoot, I'm f@cked. like 1911 f@cked
one really nice thing. I know the slide stop for a right handed person is hard to hit with just your thumb, but for a lefty like me, it's in the PERFECT spot to just reach my trigger finger forward and release the slide when I pop in a new mag. Not to mention that the slide strop is pretty meaty and is really easy for my finger to get a purchase on, unlike some other brands *cough*M&Ps*cough* that I use regularly
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A. sights. Might throw on the fiber optic front if I can sometime down the road. Pretty cheap and easy mod I believe.
if this is how all CZ's shoot, I'm f@cked. like 1911 f@cked.
Welcome, I'm told we have cookies....but I'm yet to see them.
1911s and CZs are the only guns I have multiples of. I own a glock, an HK, a Kahr, etc. but only one of each. (Unless we count S&W revolvers...but they're different barrel lengths and calibers....so I'm not counting them!)
Seriously though, I'm very happy with my purchase of the same pistol with the exception of the sights - which wasn't a surprise. I'm leaning toward a gold outline tritium with a custom U-notch rear. The weight did surprise me a bit, I knew it wouldn't be P-01 weight but didn't expect 2 ounces less than SP-01.
Oh, nice job with the videos Scarlett!
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yeah, I'm BAD hooked on 1911s, so this is not a good sign for my wallet
as for sights, I'm probably only going to swap out the front sight. is installing a fiberoptic (like the dawsons) that hard? I see it's not like my glock or walthers where all you do is take out out a set screw, but is there any "fitting" or filing that needs to be done or is a fiber optic change out pretty much plug and play?
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I installed one from CGW on a Tristar in the past, it already had the hole drilled so that was nice. It did require very minimal fitting, just ran the bottom across a course stone a few times, no filing was needed.
Some require you to drill the hole in the sight once it's installed (#47 drill), which I can see going badly if you aren't very careful.
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I installed one from CGW on a Tristar in the past, it already had the hole drilled so that was nice. It did require very minimal fitting, just ran the bottom across a course stone a few times, no filing was needed.
Some require you to drill the hole in the sight once it's installed (#47 drill), which I can see going badly if you aren't very careful.
yeah, that's what I was wondering. I see CZ custom has some dawson fibers, I'll ask if the hole is there or needs to be drilled
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If you get the Bogie grips let us know. They are described as aggressive but I'm thinking of a set in blue for my PCR. They look great
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I installed one from CGW on a Tristar in the past, it already had the hole drilled so that was nice. It did require very minimal fitting, just ran the bottom across a course stone a few times, no filing was needed.
Some require you to drill the hole in the sight once it's installed (#47 drill), which I can see going badly if you aren't very careful.
Yes it can go badly. Right now my 85 Combat is using a piece of a #47 HS drill bit as a pin. I really do like the sights that have the area on the sight pre-drilled (grouved).
Chris
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I thought for sure that I wanted to swap in a FO sight shortly after getting my first CZ and those tiny sights, but they've grown on me over time and once I learned to ignore the dots, yeah buddy!
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I saw this thread last Saturday and by the next day had read the entire thing. Ordered one on Monday and picked it up today. I'm impressed and my initial reaction is that it feels more balanced and allows me a better grip then my PCR.
Thanks Scarlett for your work on getting the word out on this pistol!
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In concerns about quantity available of these, thought it might be good to look at serial # ranges.
[...]
If others want to share higher/lower than these it might help to identify actual quantity produced and/or available. But if these are overruns, etc, not all of the ranges we see on serials may in fact be stateside... Regardless, would be good info nonetheless.
Low thus far shared is C0720xx.
High thus far shared is C0777xx.
That's an ~5700 number range.
Guns at C0720xx, C0732xx, C0734xx, C0735xx, C0753xx, C0767xx, & CO777xx.
Updated below:
Low thus far shared is C0720xx.
High thus far shared is C0955xx.
That's an ~23,500 number range.
Guns at C0720xx, C0732xx, C0734xx, C0735xx, C0750xx, C0753xx, C0767xx, CO777xx, & C0955xx.
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And the one shown on the CZC page is CZ095xxx. As one will notice by looking at current CZUB production, all their firearm models appear to share the same serial number sequence unlike the old days with a different model having its own numbering sequence. This current range will give you an idea of overall production and proofing going on at CZUB for a general period for all models and makes it difficult to identify the production run total for a specific model. It's still an interesting exercise to see.
I thought that was how the serial numbers worked. So to be clear for others and to verify I understand correctly as well. Let's say CZ UB has 10 manufacturing lines up and running today. Today they are producing 2,000 total serialized items (to keep it simple for the example serial numbers 80,000 to 82,000). Today 300 of the SP-01 Compacts will be finished within those 2,000 daily serialized items. So, they will get one of those serial numbers, sequentially, as they reach that point in production today.
This is opposed to saying that 1,600 SP-01 Compacts were produced in total. Therefore, they got serial numbers 80,000 through 81,600. Am I correct that this is NOT how it works, and the first example is the way serial numbers are assigned in CZ UB production?
I am ashamed to say I don't own enough CZ pistols to know for certain...
The US and Czech Republic/EU likely have different serial number laws. I believe they have to be applied at different stages depending. So there's that. And it might just be something odd like every barrel is required to be serialized, etc. May not be a whole gun.
The other thing is whether their is any requirement of sequential numbering/allocation, or if there's going to be a run of X number of guns of given model over a week/month/year/ever/etc is the manufacturer able to block off and produce in segments based in model or are they numbered based sequential production runs based on whichever point of the process that is required.
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I saw this thread last Saturday and by the next day had read the entire thing. Ordered one on Monday and picked it up today. I'm impressed and my initial reaction is that it feels more balanced and allows me a better grip then my PCR.
Thanks Scarlett for your work on getting the word out on this pistol!
Was it with a loaded mag or both empty? I have a couple Sig P228s and I'm guessing they likely balance similarly... With fully to partially loaded mags they balance great. As ammo weight in grip reduces the balance of the weapon changes...
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I have to agree with Bougalou... it feels more balanced than my buddie's PCR with the extra weight in the front. shoots nice too.
well, I figure more mags the better, so I hit up MidwayUSA and snagged 3 of the Mec Gar 14 round flush fits that they had on sale for $19.79... couldn't complain too much
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I installed one from CGW on a Tristar in the past, it already had the hole drilled so that was nice. It did require very minimal fitting, just ran the bottom across a course stone a few times, no filing was needed.
Some require you to drill the hole in the sight once it's installed (#47 drill), which I can see going badly if you aren't very careful.
yeah, that's what I was wondering. I see CZ custom has some dawson fibers, I'll ask if the hole is there or needs to be drilled
Yes the groove is there on the Dawson sights making them easier to install. On the sights that you must drill, drill slowly and use plenty of oil in the hole and on the drill bit. As pointed out by other posts, only drill from the left to the right, this way the bits cutting edge is pulling the new sight into its mounting slot. To make things go better I bought a couple Cobalt drill bits for $1.19 each. Cobalt bits are great but still use oil in the process.
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I saw this thread last Saturday and by the next day had read the entire thing. Ordered one on Monday and picked it up today. I'm impressed and my initial reaction is that it feels more balanced and allows me a better grip then my PCR.
Thanks Scarlett for your work on getting the word out on this pistol!
Ha! I love these posts about people reading the whole thread (novel). It's impressive how many people have joined in to share their experiences and help enrich what we know about this pistol. Glad I could help spread the word and glad to hear you like yours!
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this one is for those who have replaced the front sight (most likely Scarlett's domanin), is the front site a .100 width, or .125?
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this one is for those who have replaced the front sight (most likely Scarlett's domanin), is the front site a .100 width, or .125?
I put .100 wide plain black Dawson front sight on mine.
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this one is for those who have replaced the front sight (most likely Scarlett's domanin), is the front site a .100 width, or .125?
Here's what I've put on one for someone else and what will be on my SAO SP-01 Compact.
https://cajungunworks.com/product/050-390-correct-oem-fo-front-sight/
The product description for this front sight explains,
"The 050-390 is much narrower (.095?) versus the stock front OEM sight (.125?) which allows for a dramatic increase in light on both sides of the front post."
My calipers are in the room where my baby is sleeping, so I can't measure the SP-01 Compact front sight width. But, the OEM is .125" and rhart and I have installed .100" and .095" front sights. Does that help?
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that it does. a .100 and .095 being installed means I'd probably have gone with the dawson .100, but I like that one from CGW too. looks nice
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I saw this thread last Saturday and by the next day had read the entire thing. Ordered one on Monday and picked it up today. I'm impressed and my initial reaction is that it feels more balanced and allows me a better grip then my PCR.
Thanks Scarlett for your work on getting the word out on this pistol!
Was it with a loaded mag or both empty? I have a couple Sig P228s and I'm guessing they likely balance similarly... With fully to partially loaded mags they balance great. As ammo weight in grip reduces the balance of the weapon changes...
With an empty mag. I will check on loaded mag....
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Okay since we're talking about sights for the SP-01C these are the ones I installed on mine. They are from CZC and I love them.
https://czcustom.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=10703&cat=
https://czcustom.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=10081&cat=
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very nice, did it come pre drilled for the front one?
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I just traded an LC9s in for a second one of these. I've had no problems carrying it with a good belt and holster.
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In the CZC description, they will mention needing a #47 drill bit meaning the sight is not notched. CGW's sights from Dawson are pre-grooved. CZC does have quite a range of sight heights but a little conversion is needed. Both are quality sights. If you do drill, drill from the left to the right as others have stressed. Finally found (with help from my cat) everything I launched, put it in my SP01C and will take it to the range mid week. For this mod I put in CGW's SRS2 with the 11.5# spring, left out the lifter and its spring, put in a old 85C trigger with RP-TRS, the Floating trigger spring and CGW's bushing. Also I am modifying an 85C with similar parts and it should be ready by Friday.
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very nice, did it come pre drilled for the front one?
No it wasn't pre drilled but you could see light through the retaining pin hole. I used a #47 drill bit that I got from CZC when I bought the sights. It was more of a half moon cut not a full cut. It was very easy to do and only took a few seconds with a variable speed drill. Just remember to go slow and drill from the left side to the right side so the sight doesn't work it's way out while you are drilling the hole. Both the front and the rear need a little fitting. I used three different pieces of of sand paper 400, 600 & 1500 grit on a flat surface and just took a little off at a time until the sight would go in about half way on it's own. Then I tapped the front in using a nylon punch. The rear I did using my sight pusher. It probably took about 45 minutes to complete. Hope this helps.
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I replaced the standard sights with the TruGlo TFX Pros. Pretty simple installation, and I love the new sight picture.
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I saw this thread last Saturday and by the next day had read the entire thing. Ordered one on Monday and picked it up today. I'm impressed and my initial reaction is that it feels more balanced and allows me a better grip then my PCR.
Thanks Scarlett for your work on getting the word out on this pistol!
Was it with a loaded mag or both empty? I have a couple Sig P228s and I'm guessing they likely balance similarly... With fully to partially loaded mags they balance great. As ammo weight in grip reduces the balance of the weapon changes...
With an empty mag. I will check on loaded mag....
Great, thank you. Before I saw these, the P01 (ideally the od green variety) was at the top of my hg want list.
What I have found is that the steel frame guns w/ loaded mags still balance great, especially when you consider where the weight is located (more down and accordingly when understanding angles of force, fulcrum, etc, give optimal control against muzzle flip, etc, during the first few critical shots and also helps to correct against some of the possible movement from a heavy DA trigger pull...). Where steel frames become critical IMO is when you are looking at full slide length guns -- like for instance this frame w/ full length slide vs the same w/ an alloy slide... Compacts see less benefit but one still very much experiences that benefit when in hand.
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I am now a member of the Club. Order from Buds, its number is CO754xx.
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I am now a member of the Club. Order from Buds, its number is CO754xx.
Congratulations! Post pics and a range report when you get it!
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Just got my #2 back from Cajun Gun Works (a little side story for another time). This one's soul purpose is to be the 1911 Killer. When I called Scott this morning to tell him thank you, he laughed and said that there will be some people with hurt feelings on the range after they try shooting it.
Anyway, what comes of this will be a video on installing front sights and installing the CGW bushing. It will take me a few days to shoot/edit/upload, but I figured I would let you all know they are coming down the pipe.
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Just got my #2 back from Cajun Gun Works (a little side story for another time). This one's soul purpose is to be the 1911 Killer. When I called Scott this morning to tell him thank you, he laughed and said that there will be some people with hurt feelings on the range after they try shooting it.
Anyway, what comes of this will be a video on installing front sights and installing the CGW bushing. It will take me a few days to shoot/edit/upload, but I figured I would let you all know they are coming down the pipe.
I'm extremely jealous Scarlett. I'm tempted to send mine in to CZ custom or CGW, but I think I'm going to keep at least one of mine stock for the time being so that I can get used to them as a brand. See what they're capable of first. However, there's still that little part of me that thinks that turning one of them into a 1911 killer is not a bad idea.
what did you have done to this one exactly? and how much did it run you?
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I'm extremely jealous Scarlett. I'm tempted to send mine in to CZ custom or CGW, but I think I'm going to keep at least one of mine stock for the time being so that I can get used to them as a brand. See what they're capable of first. However, there's still that little part of me that thinks that turning one of them into a 1911 killer is not a bad idea.
I have pictures explaining it that I'll post in another thread. Basically I installed a CGW Race Hammer and got a lot of heavy creep in my SA. Scott helped me trouble shoot a few times I never could get it resolved all the way. He had me send it in to see if it was the hammer or my pistol. Basically there were some tolerance stacking issues that allowed a little wiggle in the sear cage. This can happen and there's an easy mod that I've found after the fact. See the link here...
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=85892.0
Anyways, Scott just helped get things squared away after figuring out what it was. He knew what I wanted this pistol to be so he did a little extra work on the hammer so it's pull is about 2 lbs. The break is unbelievably crisp and immediate. Reset is incredible.
I did do the mod in the link above. Super easy and cheap whole producing fantastic results! All my CZ's will eventually get it. I would highly recommend it!
Another side note that I have learned. Properly adjusting the trigger bar spring can play a very big role in trigger pull weight and reset. I am pretty sure I cover it in one of my videos. Anyone doing polishing is likely taking theirs out and when you do, just follow those pointers when you re-install it and the trigger group.
Anyway, big thanks to Scott and David. They run a top notch shop. We're lucky to have two shops of such high caliber for this brand. I'll snag a video once the bushing and sight are done showing the SA on my 1911 killer. Wish I had a ransom rest or Joe L around my local area to test the accuracy once I'm done.
EDIT: I was on lunch break while working from home. So I started the bushing and front site swap/videos and started the mod for loose sear cages. Wife and kids came home so I had to stop before the loose sear cage mod was done. I'll have an update later tonight.
what did you have done to this one exactly? and how much did it run you?
Since we weren't sure if it was my pistol or the hammer I paid shipping each way and Scott said he would clean it up for me even though it wasn't the hammer. Big thanks to him for helping, you just can't beat that service. For costs outside the shipping and had I just done everything on my own, which easily should have.
SAO Trigger 6 from CGW $42.00
https://cajungunworks.com/product/straight-single-action-aluminum-trigger/
CGW Race Hammer $78.00
https://cajungunworks.com/product/manual-safety-blue-steel-hammer/
Floating Trigger Pin $13.00
https://cajungunworks.com/product/tr-pin-cgws-exclusive-floating-trigger-pin/
CGW Firing Pin Retaining Pin $5.00
https://cajungunworks.com/product/61100-tempered-spring-steel-firing-pin-retaining-pin/
CGW Reduced Power Trigger Return Spring $7.00
https://cajungunworks.com/product/rp-trs-reduced-power-trigger-return-spring/
CGW Extended Firing Pin $25.00
https://cajungunworks.com/product/61050-perfection-series-firing/
CGW Reduced Power Firing Pin Spring $5.00
https://cajungunworks.com/product/rp-fps-reduced-power-firing-pin-spring/
13 lb Hammer Spring (main spring) $7.00
https://cajungunworks.com/product/hs-13-blue-13-hammer-spring/
So that put me at $182 total.
Keep in mind I did this for the gentleman who is my FFL for transfers (out of his home). I used the CZC Competition hammer, a 15 lb main spring and did NOT get an extended firing pin. Parts for that project were $156. From my experience the CZ Competition Hammer has a lighter SA pull, but the Race Hammer has a crisper break. CGW can work the hammer hooks an bring down the pull weight, and Scott told me how. But, if you don't want to do that the Competition hammer will get that really low SA pull out of the box. Here's a pic or two of the one I did for my FFL with the avg pull weights.
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Oh and he had me put on a fiber optic front sight, but that isn't necessarily part of a SAO upgrade...
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Mine finally came in! Thanks to CZ custom shop. Trit sights, comp hammer, bigger safety on lhs.
I like it. Makes my P-07 feel like a childs toy. Very similar in size, which I'm happy about. Really really like these sights.
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Mine finally came in! Thanks to CZ custom shop. Trit sights, comp hammer, bigger safety on lhs.
I like it. Makes my P-07 feel like a childs toy. Very similar in size, who I'm happy about. Really really like these sights.
That looks great! Can you post a pic of the sights looking down the barrel?
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took it out to the range today to have fun and decided to go into town and do a run at the local indoor pistol club... I'm in love with this gun. I blasted 200 rounds through it and the gun at ANYTHING (except one double feed with some over sized reloads from my father in law who warned me those would jam up occaisionally) like butter. my mother and i took turns firing away at it before I finally decided to open her up and see what she could do. ran it back to the 20 yard line and sighted in on this little piece of the target that WASN'T shot to crap and beyond and just couldn't miss once I got the sights down. this was a full mag and a half on that one 2.5 x 5 inch piece of the target sheet
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Got a link to this thread from Defensive Carry Forums, and I just had to order one...
Picked one up from GrabAGun.com a few weeks ago, C0733XX
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Ordered my Compact from CZCustom Sunday and picked it up from my FFL this afternoon. Only been a CZ75 owner for a couple of weeks and they're already multiplying. :D
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Nice group! How does the Omega trigger compare to the others?
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Ordered my Compact from CZCustom Sunday and picked it up from my FFL this afternoon. Only been a CZ75 owner for a couple of weeks and they're already multiplying. :D
Dang, you really jumped in, welcome aboard!
I'm in love with this gun.
Welcome, my name is SP and I'm addicted to CZ's too. We meet every Wednesday to support each other...
Got a link to this thread from Defensive Carry Forums, and I just had to order one...
Picked one up from GrabAGun.com a few weeks ago, C0733XX
Congrats and welcome!
So.... #2 returned and I got the bushing and sight install filmed yesterday and tonight. Got everything back together and the grips put back on. I'll get to the range Friday or Saturday to test her out. Now I just need some innocent 1911 enthusiasts to test her out on[emoji48]! Once again I tried to be like Stuart and remembered just how good he is at photography. Plus, it's tougher on a phone and without a good photo editor like photos hop. Anyways, I'll post a report of the bushing this weekend.
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Nice group! How does the Omega trigger compare to the others?
It feels the lightest out of all of them in SA but feels heaviest in DA. I haven't shot the compact yet but so far I'm slightly more accurate with the Omega than the others. Next on the list is either a Rami or CZ75 SA. These things are really addicting and very bad for my bank account. :( :)
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Just resizing pic for easy viewing (hint on imgur -- add "l" to end of pic link for large, m and s for medium and small). this pic embed is the large size.
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took it out to the range today to have fun and decided to go into town and do a run at the local indoor pistol club... I'm in love with this gun. I blasted 200 rounds through it and the gun at ANYTHING (except one double feed with some over sized reloads from my father in law who warned me those would jam up occaisionally) like butter. my mother and i took turns firing away at it before I finally decided to open her up and see what she could do. ran it back to the 20 yard line and sighted in on this little piece of the target that WASN'T shot to crap and beyond and just couldn't miss once I got the sights down. this was a full mag and a half on that one 2.5 x 5 inch piece of the target sheet
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Just resizing pic for easy viewing (hint on imgur -- add "l" to end of pic link for large, m and s for medium and small). this pic embed is the large size.
(http://i.imgur.com/xB118HGl.jpg)
took it out to the range today to have fun and decided to go into town and do a run at the local indoor pistol club... I'm in love with this gun. I blasted 200 rounds through it and the gun at ANYTHING (except one double feed with some over sized reloads from my father in law who warned me those would jam up occaisionally) like butter. my mother and i took turns firing away at it before I finally decided to open her up and see what she could do. ran it back to the 20 yard line and sighted in on this little piece of the target that WASN'T shot to crap and beyond and just couldn't miss once I got the sights down. this was a full mag and a half on that one 2.5 x 5 inch piece of the target sheet
thanks, I'm a newb when it comes to posting pics.... most forums seem to autosize so I was surprised this one didnt'
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I am so jealous, I live in Canada and a gun has to have a 4.2" barrel for import. huge CZ FAN. I have 85b with KADET, 85 combat for 9mm and a slicked up SP01 SHADOW. I have always wanted a P01 but these SP01 COMPACTS look awesome and you have 2 of them! That's just not fair. LOL
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I am so jealous, I live in Canada and a gun has to have a 4.2" barrel for import. huge CZ FAN. I have 85b with KADET, 85 combat for 9mm and a slicked up SP01 SHADOW. I have always wanted a P01 but these SP01 COMPACTS look awesome and you have 2 of them! That's just not fair. LOL
Ha, my condolences on that fun law! Just shoot me a message if you are ever state side down around Utah and we can go out for a range trip and you can play with mine.
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SP your SP-01c twins p0rn is killing me!
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SP your SP-01c twins p0rn is killing me!
[emoji48] 2 is 1 and 1 is none...
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guns, the only time in your life you'll actually be able to have twins and not be murdered by your wife
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Ordered my Compact from CZCustom Sunday and picked it up from my FFL this afternoon. Only been a CZ75 owner for a couple of weeks and they're already multiplying. :D
Impressive ...the CZ bug bit you hard!
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SP your SP-01c twins p0rn is killing me!
[emoji48] 2 is 1 and 1 is none...
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You always have at least one gun less than you "need"! ;D
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SP your SP-01c twins p0rn is killing me!
[emoji48] 2 is 1 and 1 is none...
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You always have at least one gun less than you "need"! ;D
sadly I'm about 5 guns less than I "need", and that doesn't bode well for my credit card.....
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Got out and had the chance to put a few rounds through my Scarlett Pistol. Testing accuracy with the bushing and my front sight. Hope this is a little helpful even with my limited distance skill.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=87009.0
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Mine finally came in! Thanks to CZ custom shop. Trit sights, comp hammer, bigger safety on lhs.
I like it. Makes my P-07 feel like a childs toy. Very similar in size, who I'm happy about. Really really like these sights.
That looks great! Can you post a pic of the sights looking down the barrel?
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The rear sight is serrated and the trit lamps are not bordered, so in daylight it is quite dark, while the front dot has a nice white outline around the tritium. It's a similar effect to some target sights I've seen, making them really easy to track and re-align while shooting. The widths are perfect for me.
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SP your SP-01c twins p0rn is killing me!
[emoji48] 2 is 1 and 1 is none...
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You always have at least one gun less than you "need"! ;D
sadly I'm about 5 guns less than I "need", and that doesn't bode well for my credit card.....
weaponsman posted this recently; somewhat related: http://weaponsman.com/?p=39570
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can anyone tell me the grip screw size that fits these? is it M3.5x0.6 pitch, and 8mm length? i measured the factory ones off mine and they look like just about 8mm. my threads got messed up have to buy new ones...
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can anyone tell me the grip screw size that fits these? is it M3.5x0.6 pitch, and 8mm length? i measured the factory ones off mine and they look like just about 8mm. my threads got messed up have to buy new ones...
I think you have got it right. I found the same thing stated in the thread linked below. As i understand it, they should be the same for all of the 75 variants aside from the RAMI and CZ 40 B
Grip screws
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=65991.0
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I'm not sure if its already been posted or not, as I have seen talk about the left side safety lever, but which ambidextrous safety will work for the right hand side as well. Could I just replace both the left and right?
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I'm not sure if its already been posted or not, as I have seen talk about the left side safety lever, but which ambidextrous safety will work for the right hand side as well. Could I just replace both the left and right?
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=84002.0
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=86691.0
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Just a quick Update: So far i hand over 500 rds through my SP-01 Compact, and she runs beautifully. Would have been more, but the last 2 range sessions I brought my newest CZ addition and spent half the time breaking it in. Put 300 rds through the little one so far with hiccups noted
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SP-01C
2075 RAMI 9mm
https://www.instagram.com/elppaym/?hl=en
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can anyone tell me the grip screw size that fits these? is it M3.5x0.6 pitch, and 8mm length? i measured the factory ones off mine and they look like just about 8mm. my threads got messed up have to buy new ones...
I think you have got it right. I found the same thing stated in the thread linked below. As i understand it, they should be the same for all of the 75 variants aside from the RAMI and CZ 40 B
Grip screws
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=65991.0
thank you, i was going to buy these on amazon, but im going to try copper state bolt on monday that way can pick up in store, will keep the 100 pack saved in my cart though!
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looks like only 2-3 left in the wild (besides the ones at CZCustom)... Hoosiers and KYGunco are the only two places left and they only have 2-3 each (or 2-3 total, they might be pulling from the same inventory).
STUPID happy I decided to pick up a second one from Mr Gun Dealer before they all went out of stock. this thing is a freaking tack drive
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looks like only 2-3 left in the wild (besides the ones at CZCustom)... Hoosiers and KYGunco are the only two places left and they only have 2-3 each (or 2-3 total, they might be pulling from the same inventory).
STUPID happy I decided to pick up a second one from Mr Gun Dealer before they all went out of stock. this thing is a freaking tack drive
Yeah - I picked up my second one "used" at Cabela's last weekend. I got a great deal on it and it looks to be new. I haven't gotten to there range yet, but I'm expecting the same as my first one.
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Dang these went fast with tax season!
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I called David with a question and while I had him on the phone I asked about the safety and slide stop on the Shadow 2. He confirmed that the standard SP-01 Slide Stop does not work in the Shadow 2 nor do the manual safeties. BUT... he has confirmed the safety from the SP-01 Compact works in the Shadow 2. He didn't have the chance to check the SP-01 Compact Slide Stop in the Shadow 2 but I'll bet money it fits too. Once Shadow 2 parts start to arrive it seems like we have more parts that will work in these SP-01 Compacts! I'll update my parts list when the slide stops are confirmed and when parts are actually available.
David also posted this in his Shadow 2 post:
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=86823.30
it is turning out that while these SP-01 Compacts maintained the frame width of the P-01's and we thought that was bizzarre, it really is the same benefit gained from the Shadow 2 frame. If only these had the grip of the Shadow 2's... But I think this helps explain why so many are really enjoying the recoil impulse of these SP-01 Compacts.
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I just ordered what looks to be the last two from Kygunco. Shows out of stock now.
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bleep, these are pretty much "going going gone!" at this point
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bleep, these are pretty much "going going gone!" at this point
Frankly, I'm suprised they lasted as long as they did. I picked up one, and I'm glad I did, did anybody find out what the real story is behind these? I've read alot of speculation on these pistols, but has anyone nailed down the who/ what/where on these other than they appear to be some sort of a contract overrun? While I would'nt go so far as to call them "rare" they do qualify as "ususual" and, I figure it's likely we won't see these for sale again.
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i sure am glad i got one, i bought mine from riflegear.com, and used discover price protection to match mrgundealer, so after FFL got mine for $520!
i picked up a mid size 1911 after buying this, and it feels like a 2x4 in comparison. may never be able to get any other type of gun after this CZ... bleep you SP!
ended up ordering a 100 pack of grip screws from copper state nut and bolt, should be ready on monday so if anyone wants a couple spares to keep, and you are in metro PHX, let me know, i'd be happy to gunnitforward
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Frankly, I'm suprised they lasted as long as they did. I picked up one, and I'm glad I did, did anybody find out what the real story is behind these? I've read alot of speculation on these pistols, but has anyone nailed down the who/ what/where on these other than they appear to be some sort of a contract overrun? While I would'nt go so far as to call them "rare" they do qualify as "ususual" and, I figure it's likely we won't see these for sale again.
CZ confirmed the contract run that a country didn't take delivery on. After that I only have speculation...
i picked up a mid size 1911 after buying this, and it feels like a 2x4 in comparison. may never be able to get any other type of gun after this CZ... bleep you SP!
Ha! I suffer with you. I had to scrounge to get a second that intended to give to my daughter when she starts shooting. But got carried away giving it the works too. Now you'll need an SP-01 or Shadow to so you have the big brother to your SP-01C... [emoji48]
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I'm happy I have two. Neither one are cajunized yet, but at least one will be so it'll more closely resemble their big brother. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170316/125a5ce68a6619eeb57d7e8d46bf4463.jpg)
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Hello everyone. Been considering the sp-01 compact for HD and concealed carry.
Any feedback on how this carries would be appreciated.
I originally wanted a P01 for CCW but since I have a 75SA i'd prefer the sp-01 compact due to it having a manual safety. I grew up shooting 1911's so carrying cocked and locked does not bother me.
Thanks!
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Hello everyone. Been considering the sp-01 compact for HD and concealed carry.
Any feedback on how this carries would be appreciated.
I originally wanted a P01 for CCW but since I have a 75SA i'd prefer the sp-01 compact due to it having a manual safety. I grew up shooting 1911's so carrying cocked and locked does not bother me.
Thanks!
I've been carrying mine daily for 2-3 weeks now and it's no problem at all. I have a good belt and holster, though. If you're going to carry cocked and locked you'll want to switch the safety out.
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Thanks WHYSooner!
The 75SA or TS style safety should be a drop in part, correct?
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Hello everyone. Been considering the sp-01 compact for HD and concealed carry.
Any feedback on how this carries would be appreciated.
I originally wanted a P01 for CCW but since I have a 75SA i'd prefer the sp-01 compact due to it having a manual safety. I grew up shooting 1911's so carrying cocked and locked does not bother me.
Thanks!
I've also been carrying mine for about 2weeks. Weight dosen't seem to be a problem as long as one has a good belt (something designed for carrying a pistol) and a good holster. The only problem I've encountered carrying it, is that I also carry a reload, and I've found the Mec-gar mags, and the factory CZ mags will start to rust rather easily. I've been using Renaissance Wax on the outside of the mags, and that seems to help, currently I'm thinking of sending some mags off to Robar, and have them coated. I think that will solve the problem. I really wish CZ / Mec-Gar would do something to make the mags more rust resistant. I'd be willing to pay for stainless mags. Other than that minor complaint, I've had no issues carrying it. I carry mine with the hammer on half cock, rather than cocked and locked.This works better for ME.
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I agree, if you have a good belt and holster it won't be a problem at all. I was surprised when I started carrying mine, because its a heavy pistol, but it didn't feel bad when carrying AIWB. Like was said, if you want to carry cocked and locked then you'll probably want a safety that gives you more purchase. We have a list of parts if you end up pursuing that option. Just to be fair, it is a heavy pistol and I didn't buy it to carry, but I just ended up shooting it well, it was accurate to boot, and overall just a fantastic compact pistol. That led me to decide to try it for carry... and it worked. I live in a dry climate don't have the rust issue with mags.
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NP3 is your friend! Consider collecting a bunch of "small parts" as well. Its been a while but Robar had resonable prices for misc pieces that can be placed in a "basket". I did a NP3+ Norton Special on my Beretta 96 Centurion, a barrel crown and treatment, and a couple of CZ mags in NP3 to match my Matte Stainless. Very pleased. My only sticker shock pertained to overnight shipping of the gun frame (had them install new internals, spring, etc.). No such requirements if not sending a serialized receiver.
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Imo the gun feels just like a 1911 to carry, probably the same weight, only better because of the shorter frame. I agree the safety is thin but the more I carry it around the more I kind of enjoy the thin profile of these safety levers. Still going to order an extended lever anyways however.
Im actually using a mister softy holster that's compatible with the p01 at the moment. You feel the weight but the handgun really doesn't inhibit movement in any way.
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I officially take you all off my Christmas card list for this thread (mostly because I won't be able to afford Xmas cards). I was happy with these two guns and now I decided to call up David at CGW and Stuart over at CZ Custom and see what each will cost to turn this into a 1911 killer
turn it into a single action only gun with a 3 lb (ish) trigger, polish, new springs, hammers other internals. new fiber optic front sights, an extra slide stop as backup and a fluff n buff.
my wife is NOT going to like the credit card bill
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WOW, I just found this thread. I usually just keep up with the clones.
I have a P-01 and a friend shot it and decided to get one like it. So he shows up week before last and pulls out this ??? P-01 that has a steel frame and safeties?? I asked him why did he get that? "It's a Brick!"
I didn't even know they made a steel frame P-01. Oh, it says compact...not P-01. Anyway, not my cup of tea. I could tell he wasn't happy after comparing the weight. I figure he would probably sell it or trade it soon.
Now I could have tried to be a friend and take it off his hands after I read this. O0 Instead I just called to tell him he has a Unicorn! ;)
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NP3 is your friend! Consider collecting a bunch of "small parts" as well. Its been a while but Robar had resonable prices for misc pieces that can be placed in a "basket". I did a NP3+ Norton Special on my Beretta 96 Centurion, a barrel crown and treatment, and a couple of CZ mags in NP3 to match my Matte Stainless. Very pleased. My only sticker shock pertained to overnight shipping of the gun frame (had them install new internals, spring, etc.). No such requirements if not sending a serialized receiver.
I stumbled on to another option this morning, while looking around on the 'net. There's a shop about 30 miles from me that does plating, both hard chrome, and satin nickel.. I'm going to call and see what they would want to do 4 mags in hard chrome. They say on their website that it's a 2-3 day turnaround, and I probably could drive up there and drop off/ pickup.I figure hard chrome would also work well for rust resistance.
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WOW, I just found this thread. I usually just keep up with the clones.
I have a P-01 and a friend shot it and decided to get one like it. So he shows up week before last and pulls out this ??? P-01 that has a steel frame and safeties?? I asked him why did he get that? "It's a Brick!"
I didn't even know they made a steel frame P-01. Oh, it says compact...not P-01. Anyway, not my cup of tea. I could tell he wasn't happy after comparing the weight. I figure he would probably sell it or trade it soon.
Now I could have tried to be a friend and take it off his hands after I read this. O0 Instead I just called to tell him he has a Unicorn! ;)
They definitely aren't for everyone. Did he try shooting it yet? The stock is getting thinned out so if he holds on to it for 6 months he may turn it around and make a few bucks...
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talking to Dave at CGW it seems it's MUCH less a P-01 except visually. more like a Shadow 2 compact with some SP-01 original features... supposedly the frame width is the shadow 2's... makes me wonder if the slide stop for the Shadow 2 would work too (if we get any shadow 2's in stock to test actually lol)
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Hey Scarlett, yes we shot it. Put about a box thru it. Worked fine.
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That's awesome
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these stock sights... argh... i cant get used to them! maybe the blind guy test firing in Czech Republic was actually pointing!
im a terrible shot though
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these stock sights... argh... i cant get used to them! maybe the blind guy test firing in Czech Republic was actually pointing!
im a terrible shot though
lol, I hate them too. that front sight at the very LEAST is going to go. might keep the rears, might not.
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talking to Dave at CGW it seems it's MUCH less a P-01 except visually. more like a Shadow 2 compact with some SP-01 original features... supposedly the frame width is the shadow 2's... makes me wonder if the slide stop for the Shadow 2 would work too (if we get any shadow 2's in stock to test actually lol)
That's pretty much what it is, a dumbed down Shadowline Compact: http://www.czub.cz/en/cz-75-compact-shadow-line.html
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Can anyone please confirm what the model number is for these? Interested in getting one. (I ordered a P-01 thinking it would be a all steel).
Ohh well, an excuse to get another CZ! LOL
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Can anyone please confirm what the model number is for these? Interested in getting one. (I ordered a P-01 thinking it would be a all steel).
Ohh well, an excuse to get another CZ! LOL
99021. I bet everyone here knows it by heart! LOL
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99021. About the only place to get them anymore is at czcustom.com, all other online stores are sold out
https://czcustom.com/new-firearms/cz-pistols-factory/75-b-compact-rail.html
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talking to Dave at CGW it seems it's MUCH less a P-01 except visually. more like a Shadow 2 compact with some SP-01 original features... supposedly the frame width is the shadow 2's... makes me wonder if the slide stop for the Shadow 2 would work too (if we get any shadow 2's in stock to test actually lol)
That's pretty much what it is, a dumbed down Shadowline Compact: http://www.czub.cz/en/cz-75-compact-shadow-line.html
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wow, well well well. change out the sights, the hammer and upsweep that beavertail and we have our 99021s... interesting
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*Update* - "Pulled the trigger" and placed an order. Need to be careful, this addiction can be hazardous! 4 CZs in two months and probably a P-10C.
Now back to scavenge the thread to look for parts/upgrades.
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*Update* - "Pulled the trigger" and placed an order. Need to be careful, this addiction can be hazardous! 4 CZs in two months and probably a P-10C.
Now back to scavenge the thread to look for parts/upgrades.
Sounds like a good start.
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*Update* - "Pulled the trigger" and placed an order. Need to be careful, this addiction can be hazardous! 4 CZs in two months and probably a P-10C.
Now back to scavenge the thread to look for parts/upgrades.
Dang! you've already caught up to my humble little collection. Congrats!
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*Update* - "Pulled the trigger" and placed an order. Need to be careful, this addiction can be hazardous! 4 CZs in two months and probably a P-10C.
Now back to scavenge the thread to look for parts/upgrades.
4 in two months??? the heck, I gotta catch up !!! I've got two in the last month :(...
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*Update* - "Pulled the trigger" and placed an order. Need to be careful, this addiction can be hazardous! 4 CZs in two months and probably a P-10C.
Now back to scavenge the thread to look for parts/upgrades.
4 in two months??? the heck, I gotta catch up !!! I've got two in the last month :(...
Need suggestions again? O0
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*Update* - "Pulled the trigger" and placed an order. Need to be careful, this addiction can be hazardous! 4 CZs in two months and probably a P-10C.
Now back to scavenge the thread to look for parts/upgrades.
4 in two months??? the heck, I gotta catch up !!! I've got two in the last month :(...
Need suggestions again? O0
lol, more like I need things to be in stock. no P-01's, PCRs or SP-01s anywhere in stock :(
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no P-01's, PCRs or SP-01s anywhere in stock :(
http://oakhillguns.com/pistol/cz-usa/czu-cz75-sp-01-9mm-da-18rd-ns-2003.html (http://oakhillguns.com/pistol/cz-usa/czu-cz75-sp-01-9mm-da-18rd-ns-2003.html)
They've got several customs as well.
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no P-01's, PCRs or SP-01s anywhere in stock :(
http://oakhillguns.com/pistol/cz-usa/czu-cz75-sp-01-9mm-da-18rd-ns-2003.html (http://oakhillguns.com/pistol/cz-usa/czu-cz75-sp-01-9mm-da-18rd-ns-2003.html)
They've got several customs as well.
not a bad price. I'm SUPER tempted on the SP-01, but part of me wants to hold out and find a CZ 75 SAO version... same upswept beaver tail but in SAO goodness...
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Not quite drop in. Mine required a bit of fitting to work, but nothing that could not be done with a small file and some patience.
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Local store had one so I had to pick it up at lunch today!
Two things that make me sad....
1. I have to work the rest of the day and won't be able to shoot it until I get home
2. CZ-USA doesn't sell the orange aluminum grips to match my SP-01 Tac.....
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Local store had one so I had to pick it up at lunch today!
Two things that make me sad....
1. I have to work the rest of the day and won't be able to shoot it until I get home
2. CZ-USA doesn't sell the orange aluminum grips to match my SP-01 Tac.....
Congrats! Check out LOK grips. They're not aluminum, but they'll be able to make an orange for you. I have the grenades on mine and it's great for carry.
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Thanks, I'll check those out
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150 rds this afternoon without a hitch. Love this gun already! Not one hiccup, smooth shooter now I just need to work on the guy pulling the trigger.....
and find a holster
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150 rds this afternoon without a hitch. Love this gun already! Not one hiccup, smooth shooter now I just need to work on the guy pulling the trigger.....
and find a holster
Congrats! Shot mine today and I am still blown away by how comfortable they are and how well they handle recoil. Shot a Ruger SR9c for 5 rounds at the end (a friend's pistol) and I was a mess with it after shooting my CZ's. Just remember to clean off all the grease (cosmoline?) that it ships with. Especially get it out of the magazines.
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150 rds this afternoon without a hitch. Love this gun already! Not one hiccup, smooth shooter now I just need to work on the guy pulling the trigger.....
and find a holster
Congrats! Shot mine today and I am still blown away by how comfortable they are and how well they handle recoil. Shot a Ruger SR9c for 5 rounds at the end (a friend's pistol) and I was a mess with it after shooting my CZ's. Just remember to clean off all the grease (cosmoline?) that it ships with. Especially get it out of the magazines.
It's just packing grease. nothing fancy. Cosmoline is another level of pure and utter hell to get out and you'd KNOW if you got cosmoline in your gun
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I've gotten a couple questions about tools to use for pistol smithing CZ's in the last few days. I posted a thread with what I use, what I know is out there, and asked others to chime in as well. Hope this helps anyone looking to do some of their own polishing and upgrades.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=87317.msg655834#msg655834
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It's just packing grease. nothing fancy. Cosmoline is another level of pure and utter hell to get out and you'd KNOW if you got cosmoline in your gun
Oh cool, good to know! I had heard something like that but wasn't sure as I haven't knowingly dealt with cosmoline.
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It's just packing grease. nothing fancy. Cosmoline is another level of pure and utter hell to get out and you'd KNOW if you got cosmoline in your gun
Oh cool, good to know! I had heard something like that but wasn't sure as I haven't knowingly dealt with cosmoline.
you'll KNOW if you run into cosmoline. people like to use the term for long term storage grease for guns that come over seas, but cosmoline is a whole different beast. it's almost as thick as gelatin and it's EVIL to get off. if you can wipe it off with some gun solvent then it ain't the real thing. real comsoline takes hours of scrubbing or else baking it off since it's meant for like 50 years of storage. great stuff, but a BEOTCH to work with
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Yep, cleaned it up before shooting.
So couple of questions, I read about 40ish of the pages and probably missed it.
The P-01 slide stop - how much shorter is it? I'd like mine to be shorter (don't hear that very often....) but at $40 not sure it's worth it
Holster suggestions? I prefer OWB
Thanks!
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Here are a few comparison pics from and SP-01 slide stop (same external lever profile as the CZ P-01) and an CZ 85B slide stop (same external lever profile as the SP-01 Compact). They are pricey but it is not a bad idea to have a back up slide stop on hand.
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Thanks for the pics. I thought the P-01 was slightly shorter and would protrude less but from those pics they look to be about the same?
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I think what you gain from the P-01 style slide stop is the length, so that it is easier to hit with your thumb. Not an issue if you can comfortably reach the factory slide stop. Looks are another factor, when i fist got into CZs i picked up an SP-01 slide stop for my CZ75BD because i though it looked cool.
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Thanks for the pics. I thought the P-01 was slightly shorter and would protrude less but from those pics they look to be about the same?
are you talking about protruding from the right side of the gun? like the shaft that seems to stick out on the SP-01 compact? if so, yes it's nearly flush instead of sticking out
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anyone notice the depth of rifling in the barrel? mine looks a little bit superficial, i'm not sure how it is supposed to be from factory, but i have noticed the rifling on my other pistols has been a bit deeper.
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I told my buddy who works at my LGS about these things. They had five show up today. He's buying one so they have four left. Any guys in the Des Moines, Iowa area the shop is JT's and is on Merle Hay Road. They put them on their Facebook page so they'll probably go quick. Lot of CZ nuts around here, including myself.
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Funny how this rare batch of CZs seem to be the ONLY steel compacts available! Hopefully a rare of late batch of traditional compacts will become available coincident with excess cash in my wallet! Especially if they make it stainless -- I'll take out a second mortgage, LOL.
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Funny how this rare batch of CZs seem to be the ONLY steel compacts available! Hopefully a rare of late batch of traditional compacts will become available coincident with excess cash in my wallet! Especially if they make it stainless -- I'll take out a second mortgage, LOL.
Haha. A stainless PCR or p-01 will have my cc out so fast it will have vertigo
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Thanks for the pics. I thought the P-01 was slightly shorter and would protrude less but from those pics they look to be about the same?
are you talking about protruding from the right side of the gun? like the shaft that seems to stick out on the SP-01 compact? if so, yes it's nearly flush instead of sticking out
Exactly what I was asking. Thanks!
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Why did I have to venture onto this thread tonight? I just happened to have Gunbroker pulled up, and sure enough, I found one available at a good price, so it's mine! I reckon that gives me a week to read up on how to post pics here, for evidence. ;D
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Next, click the insert image icon beneath the Bold button. Then, paste the url between the brackets.
Also, while I'm checking up, heres some targets I shot the other day. Now, before you go laughing me out of the thread, bear in mind I'm an amateur and I've only been getting range time on a regular basis for the past couple months.
Blasphemy I know, but it probably had something to do with me acquiring a certain firearm. ;) ;D
Here's my warm-up with Federal 115gr at ~15 yards, just dumped an entire mag at each target.
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff491/jakecs1/IMG_20170321_155808812_zps2mtnx2dg.jpg~original)
Here's some cheap PPU 115 brass that the CZ just seems to love for some reason. Again at 15 yards with some double action fun.
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff491/jakecs1/IMG_20170324_003228437_zpsu1q57afr.jpg~original)
She's still stock for now, debating whether I really wanna do anything to it to be honest.
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Funny how this rare batch of CZs seem to be the ONLY steel compacts available! Hopefully a rare of late batch of traditional compacts will become available coincident with excess cash in my wallet! Especially if they make it stainless -- I'll take out a second mortgage, LOL.
Haha. A stainless PCR or p-01 will have my cc out so fast it will have vertigo
I've thought about having my SP-01 compact black nitrited.. ( frame, barrel, slide, trigger bar, )There's a shop about 45 minutes away that does it and they do firearms as well. They used to do the nitriding for S&W, on their M&P's. I've already dropped the mags I have off at another place to get them plated in electroless nickel, that should solve the rusting problem I was starting to get just from carrying a reload. The two things stopping me from nitriding the pistol are, cost (I figure this won't be cheap.) I really don't want to disassemble the entire pistol to do this.. Maybe down the road, after the polycoart starts coming off.
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Shoot until you have 5000 pieces of brass. Then start reloading. After the 5000 reloads, maybe refinish the gun.
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Shoot until you have 5000 pieces of brass. Then start reloading. After the 5000 reloads, maybe refinish the gun.
I do reload (got a 650 for xmas, been reloading for 36years) I've probably got about 3000 peices of 9mm that I use now, got another 3000 in storage..I've also been carrying it..
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Next, click the insert image icon beneath the Bold button. Then, paste the url between the brackets.
Also, while I'm checking up, heres some targets I shot the other day. Now, before you go laughing me out of the thread, bear in mind I'm an amateur and I've only been getting range time on a regular basis for the past couple months.
Blasphemy I know, but it probably had something to do with me acquiring a certain firearm. ;) ;D
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She's still stock for now, debating whether I really wanna do anything to it to be honest.
Thanks. nice groups... I can see why you'd question the "need" to change anything
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Is it OK to assume that these will fit into a P-01 holster or which holsters does it fit into?
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Is it OK to assume that these will fit into a P-01 holster or which holsters does it fit into?
supposedly MOST P-01 holsters will fit them, but some can be picky. especially hard kydex ones that don't flex
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Thanks for the info. If anyone knows of an OWB holster that rides high and cant, please let me know.
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LGS in NH has a SP-01 Compact for 499
Like new
Unfortunately NH residents only as they do not ship (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170326/d1baa2c7708e106060647e09ef63c19a.jpg)
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That red box SIG next to it might have the most value.
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I've got a Clinger Stinger Kydex for my P-01 and my 75 Compact DOES NOT fit in it.
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That red box SIG next to it might have the most value.
It's P6 that is in a P228 box
399 for the P6
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Nevermind ;D
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I saw two of them again today at the Richmond, VA gun show.
Probably the same 2 I've been seeing for the last few months.
It's getting easier to walk by and not buy one or both.
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Is no one carrying this baby? I need to find one holster so I can start carrying it. :(
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not me, a tad too heavy for my tastes. it's my computer desk gun right now
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Is no one carrying this baby? I need to find one holster so I can start carrying it. :(
I now have a Vedder LightTuck for this gun. It fits the gun very well and gives all kinds of adjustment options. I went ahead and got an IWB mag holder for my 75B SA, which works for the P-01 as well. If you order one you'll have it with a week.
http://www.vedderholsters.com/lighttuck/ (http://www.vedderholsters.com/lighttuck/)
http://www.vedderholsters.com/magtuck/ (http://www.vedderholsters.com/magtuck/)
I've ordered a Privateer CrossBones for it. Should ship around Memorial Day. This will be my third Privateer holster (plus a belt) and I highly recommend them. The CrossBones for my 75B SA was very comfortable on a 13-hour road trip.
https://www.privateerleather.com/pancake-style-owb-holsters (https://www.privateerleather.com/pancake-style-owb-holsters)
I also have a Remora IWB holster with full sweat shield. I have one of these for every gun I own. I can carry any of my guns with them and they stay in place. My main use for them is to keep the guns from rattling against each other in my range bag. They always come with a free mag holder. If you subscribe to their email list they have sales going on all the time.
https://www.remoraholsterstore.com/product/remora-iwb-inside-the-waistband-holster/ (https://www.remoraholsterstore.com/product/remora-iwb-inside-the-waistband-holster/)
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Privateer looks like nice leather [emoji106]
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I've got 1 on order waiting on the CZC treatment. What kind of ammo does this thing like? Or not like as they case may be? I beleive i heard this gun does not like 147 gr bullets?
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I've got 1 on order waiting on the CZC treatment. What kind of ammo does this thing like? Or not like as they case may be? I beleive i heard this gun does not like 147 gr bullets?
haven't tried any 147 grain yet (I don't shoot 147 grain to begin with) but it's been a little ammo slut so far. ate anything I through at it from the 115 to 124 grain variety. the ONLY thing it didn't like was some reloads that were slightly too long on the OAL and I KNEW it was going to choke on. even then it only choked on one round out of the 50 (was expecting more), and that was not the fault of the gun
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Is no one carrying this baby? I need to find one holster so I can start carrying it. :(
I carry it IWB with a Stealthgear and have no problems at all. I believe Scarlett uses a Stealthgear AIWB.
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Is no one carrying this baby? I need to find one holster so I can start carrying it. :(
I carry it IWB with a Stealthgear and have no problems at all. I believe Scarlett uses a Stealthgear AIWB.
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Sure do!
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I've got 1 on order waiting on the CZC treatment. What kind of ammo does this thing like? Or not like as they case may be? I beleive i heard this gun does not like 147 gr bullets?
haven't tried any 147 grain yet (I don't shoot 147 grain to begin with) but it's been a little ammo slut so far. ate anything I through at it from the 115 to 124 grain variety. the ONLY thing it didn't like was some reloads that were slightly too long on the OAL and I KNEW it was going to choke on. even then it only choked on one round out of the 50 (was expecting more), and that was not the fault of the gun
Mine run 147 grain round nose Freedom Munitions without a problem.
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I've got 1 on order waiting on the CZC treatment. What kind of ammo does this thing like? Or not like as they case may be? I beleive i heard this gun does not like 147 gr bullets?
haven't tried any 147 grain yet (I don't shoot 147 grain to begin with) but it's been a little ammo slut so far. ate anything I through at it from the 115 to 124 grain variety. the ONLY thing it didn't like was some reloads that were slightly too long on the OAL and I KNEW it was going to choke on. even then it only choked on one round out of the 50 (was expecting more), and that was not the fault of the gun
Mine run 147 grain round nose Freedom Munitions without a problem.
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I've been running 147gr bullets that I loaded, OAL of 1.140 (+ -.005) and they run fine..
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I've got 1 on order waiting on the CZC treatment. What kind of ammo does this thing like? Or not like as they case may be? I beleive i heard this gun does not like 147 gr bullets?
Mine had a problem feeding 147gr JHP. Specifically, Federal HST. But, it may have been related to the magazine, idk. I got some Mec-Gar mags to try, but I need to buy more HST to investigate further. Any ball ammo should feed like a champ.
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Mine had a problem feeding 147gr JHP. Specifically, Federal HST. But, it may have been related to the magazine, idk. I got some Mec-Gar mags to try, but I need to buy more HST to investigate further.
That's my go to defense load, the +p version. I also reload my own ammo in 147 with a 128pf
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Is no one carrying this baby? I need to find one holster so I can start carrying it. :(
Are you going to make use of the rail?? If you don't it seems like an awful waste of space.
I'm recommending JMCK to anyone who will listen: http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=85362.0
The only downside is it takes 6-7 weeks to get.
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Absolutely! XC1 will be on it, but mostly for night stand duty. Not sure I will have it on for carry, unless I find a holster that is really comfy and not bulky.
Would be awesome if I could have some company build one and I could attach the BladeTech universal TEK LOK adapter.
That way I could ask how high it will ride, and swapping would be super easy/quick.
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This is basically a steel framed P01, right?
If so, there's a company called Cleveland Kydex Co. that makes kydex holsters for P01's that allow the use of a light. I bought one for my P01 with the TLR3 on it.
http://clevelandkydex.com/
I'm not affiliated with this outfit in anyway.
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This is basically a steel framed P01, right?
If so, there's a company called Cleveland Kydex Co. that makes kydex holsters for P01's that allow the use of a light. I bought one for my P01 with the TLR3 on it.
http://clevelandkydex.com/
I'm not affiliated with this outfit in anyway.
Well I don't like either of those IWB clip options, but wow the price and lead time are unbelievable.
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A ever so slightly different version has shown up in the home market and also in limited quantities. It has P-01 marked on the slide instead of COMPACT but does bear the customary Compact description on the case label. The safety also has a positive click to it unlike the ones that came into the US market. Otherwise, it appears to be similar. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170407/fef3bd244c87602c1c6f46503f159bfa.jpg)
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Very interesting! Did they have any explanation about it? Thanks for sharing!
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CZ might have just run out of the slides with the "CZ 75 Compact" and decide to just use ones that were marked "CZ 75 P-01" since it is really the same slide just marked differently depending on the market where the firearms is to be sold.
Likewise, I have seen images of the PCR with black triggers (probably from the steel CZ 75 compact) but PCRs normally come with the silver serrated trigger.
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Didn't CZ import some P01's with safeties about 3 years ago?
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Knowing the propensity for the factory to mix and match parts as what's available, I had the same thoughts about the slide markings [emoji3]. I gathered that the factory realized there's a market for an all steel "SP-01 Compact" and made a batch for the local market to test out demand.
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There seems to be a lot variations on a theme but the one I've been hunting is an all steel compact with the decocker...anyone come across that?
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There seems to be a lot variations on a theme but the one I've been hunting is an all steel compact with the decocker...anyone come across that?
PM sent...
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Thanks Pnoy!
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A ever so slightly different version has shown up in the home market and also in limited quantities. It has P-01 marked on the slide instead of COMPACT but does bear the customary Compact description on the case label. The safety also has a positive click to it unlike the ones that came into the US market. Otherwise, it appears to be similar. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170407/fef3bd244c87602c1c6f46503f159bfa.jpg)
Interesting. Can you provide a pic of the box's label, item #, or a link to the model in someone's online inventory?
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Alex and Ryan Design also makes a nice AIWB holster for use with a light. I've tried them on G19s before and liked them.
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It's at the CZUB store in Prague so there's not an online site for it. I'll try to stop in later next week and see if they still have it in stock. I should have checked to see if it used 99021 as the model number.
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It's at the CZUB store in Prague so there's not an online site for it. I'll try to stop in later next week and see if they still have it in stock. I should have checked to see if it used 99021 as the model number.
Please do. Thanks!
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They use a different stock number system versus CZ-USA so it can't be compared. Also, it sounds like only a handful were released into the home market at about $740 at current exchange rates (the price includes a 21% sales tax and is about a $100 above the regular compacts). (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170410/37c50e2674338ecf3b10beb134594348.jpg)
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I'm new to this forum, this brand, and this handgun...I actually won one at a match on Sunday, courtesy of CZ Customs. Picked it up yesterday, and am really impressed so far. I'm a little bummed, as it looks like I may not be able to use it in USPSA (short of open or limited), but it looks like it will make a great carry piece.
I'm going to block off some time to read through this thread, and see what nuggets I can glean...thanks to you all for taking the time to offer up your thoughts.
Toby J
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I'm new to this forum, this brand, and this handgun...I actually won one at a match on Sunday, courtesy of CZ Customs. Picked it up yesterday, and am really impressed so far. I'm a little bummed, as it looks like I may not be able to use it in USPSA (sort of open or limited), but it looks like it will make a great carry piece.
I'm going to block off some time to read through this thread, and see what nuggets I can glean...thanks to you all for taking the time to offer up your thoughts.
Toby J
Welcome and congratulations! It's a long thread, feel free to ask questions as you work your way through it.
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Wow, nice win!
Added grips to mine tonight. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170411/c437f6802f1c55de43fb295fea4ec556.jpg)
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Dang. Those look nice. What grips are those?
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Cool Hand starburst, thin.
Raining here so it will be a couple of days before I can try them out.
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Wow, nice win!
Added grips to mine tonight. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170411/c437f6802f1c55de43fb295fea4ec556.jpg)
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They're GRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT! lol
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Who makes a leather AIWB holster for these?
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I don't own any of these but here's a couple of links for leather AIWB holsters from some reputable makers:
http://www.desbiensgunleather.com/iwb-holster/ (http://www.desbiensgunleather.com/iwb-holster/)
http://www.garritysgunleather.com/In-Victus.htm (http://www.garritysgunleather.com/In-Victus.htm)
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Cool Hand starburst, thin.
Raining here so it will be a couple of days before I can try them out.
sounds good. how do they feel compared to say VZ or LOK grips? I've looked at Cool Hand grips before but wasn't sure how they held up to the "big boys".
I like their designs and coloring patterns. Do you happen to have a link to where you got them from?
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Question about sights. Has anyone purchased CGW 310-221Trijicon Night Sights? I'm considering those for SP-01 C.
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Cool Hand starburst, thin.
Raining here so it will be a couple of days before I can try them out.
sounds good. how do they feel compared to say VZ or LOK grips? I've looked at Cool Hand grips before but wasn't sure how they held up to the "big boys".
I like their designs and coloring patterns. Do you happen to have a link to where you got them from?
I have a couple of sets from all three and I think these are indistinguishable from the other two. The quality is high on all of them and Cool Hands gives great follow up service, when needed.
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Cool Hand starburst, thin.
Raining here so it will be a couple of days before I can try them out.
sounds good. how do they feel compared to say VZ or LOK grips? I've looked at Cool Hand grips before but wasn't sure how they held up to the "big boys".
I like their designs and coloring patterns. Do you happen to have a link to where you got them from?
I have a couple of sets from all three and I think these are indistinguishable from the other two. The quality is high on all of them and Cool Hands gives great follow up secure, when needed.
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excellent. being that they are "thinner" than the rubber grips do they require a new length of screw or do they provide one with the grips?
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Cool Hand starburst, thin.
Raining here so it will be a couple of days before I can try them out.
sounds good. how do they feel compared to say VZ or LOK grips? I've looked at Cool Hand grips before but wasn't sure how they held up to the "big boys".
I like their designs and coloring patterns. Do you happen to have a link to where you got them from?
I have a couple of sets from all three and I think these are indistinguishable from the other two. The quality is high on all of them and Cool Hands gives great follow up secure, when needed.
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excellent. being that they are "thinner" than the rubber grips do they require a new length of screw or do they provide one with the grips?
Mine worked with the original screws. I think he does provide screws for some grips, though.
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Question about sights. Has anyone purchased CGW 310-221Trijicon Night Sights? I'm considering those for SP-01 C.
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I've got them. Much better than what came on the gun. POI = POA.
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Can't speak to the others but the quality in these is great. Worked fine with stock screws
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Got to shot 100 rds today and they worked/felt great. Nice grip, felt nice in the hand, no issues.
Really need to ditch those philips head screws but just finding it hard to pay $14 for a pair of torx head ones...
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Really need to ditch those philips head screws but just finding it hard to pay $14 for a pair of torx head ones...
This might be a better option especially if you buy several pairs to spread out the cost of shipping.
https://hbindustries.net/store/shop/cz-pistol-torx-grip-screws-black-stainless/
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The torx screws or allen screws for grips are great, until you're at a match and have one come loose. Then the chances someone has the exact tool for it becomes a bit challenging, just something to consider Otherwise, if it's not for a match pistol and just to customize go for it.
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Really need to ditch those philips head screws but just finding it hard to pay $14 for a pair of torx head ones...
This might be a better option especially if you buy several pairs to spread out the cost of shipping.
https://hbindustries.net/store/shop/cz-pistol-torx-grip-screws-black-stainless/
These
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170417/c4c2abd1a422d1960cb862d48c1dcca2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170417/d8f863e61ffcf89b4d8fe9563bffd436.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170417/5ae3acc2085bde953188d75b0b2fce8b.jpg)
I'll be buying more from HB
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Thanks! Ordered a couple of pair of those.
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out of curiosity do we know the recoil spring weight on these bad boys? are they using the same 17 lb recoil spring the P-01 and PCR use or a harder 18 or 20 lb spring ?? (just perusing for extra parts since springs and the like are always handy to have in the range bag)
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The torx screws or allen screws for grips are great, until you're at a match and have one come loose. Then the chances someone has the exact tool for it becomes a bit challenging, just something to consider Otherwise, if it's not for a match pistol and just to customize go for it.
Purple or blue locktite and then you're should be good to go...
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out of curiosity do we know the recoil spring weight on these bad boys? are they using the same 17 lb recoil spring the P-01 and PCR use or a harder 18 or 20 lb spring ?? (just perusing for extra parts since springs and the like are always handy to have in the range bag)
I'm running a 14 lb recoil spring in mine.
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out of curiosity do we know the recoil spring weight on these bad boys? are they using the same 17 lb recoil spring the P-01 and PCR use or a harder 18 or 20 lb spring ?? (just perusing for extra parts since springs and the like are always handy to have in the range bag)
I'm running a 14 lb recoil spring in mine.
Same here. I only put the stock recoil spring back in there when I am shooting personal defense loads or hot loads for practice. The stock recoil spring has worked with some pretty soft loads I have run, but it is really meant for powerful loads. You're fingers will thank you the moment you rack the slide for the first time with a 14 lb recoil spring in there.
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out of curiosity do we know the recoil spring weight on these bad boys? are they using the same 17 lb recoil spring the P-01 and PCR use or a harder 18 or 20 lb spring ?? (just perusing for extra parts since springs and the like are always handy to have in the range bag)
I'm running a 14 lb recoil spring in mine.
Same here. I only put the stock recoil spring back in there when I am shooting personal defense loads or hot loads for practice. The stock recoil spring has worked with some pretty soft loads I have run, but it is really meant for powerful loads. You're fingers will thank you the moment you rack the slide for the first time with a 14 lb recoil spring in there.
no frame battery issues with a lighter spring?
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out of curiosity do we know the recoil spring weight on these bad boys? are they using the same 17 lb recoil spring the P-01 and PCR use or a harder 18 or 20 lb spring ?? (just perusing for extra parts since springs and the like are always handy to have in the range bag)
I'm running a 14 lb recoil spring in mine.
Same here. I only put the stock recoil spring back in there when I am shooting personal defense loads or hot loads for practice. The stock recoil spring has worked with some pretty soft loads I have run, but it is really meant for powerful loads. You're fingers will thank you the moment you rack the slide for the first time with a 14 lb recoil spring in there.
no frame battery issues with a lighter spring?
Nope. Just don't shoot really hot loads without the OEM spring back in there. Plastic guide rods have more buffer that the Steel Guide rods, so the frame is more protected of you forgot answers shot a couple hundred rounds of +P ammo one day for fun.
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out of curiosity do we know the recoil spring weight on these bad boys? are they using the same 17 lb recoil spring the P-01 and PCR use or a harder 18 or 20 lb spring ?? (just perusing for extra parts since springs and the like are always handy to have in the range bag)
I'm running a 14 lb recoil spring in mine.
Same here. I only put the stock recoil spring back in there when I am shooting personal defense loads or hot loads for practice. The stock recoil spring has worked with some pretty soft loads I have run, but it is really meant for powerful loads. You're fingers will thank you the moment you rack the slide for the first time with a 14 lb recoil spring in there.
no frame battery issues with a lighter spring?
Nope. Just don't shoot really hot loads without the OEM spring back in there. Plastic guide rods have more buffer that the Steel Guide rods, so the frame is more protected of you forgot answers shot a couple hundred rounds of +P ammo one day for fun.
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nice, I'll probably grab a stock spring or two as a backup (I have two of these bad boys) but will prob through in a 14 lber as well since I only shoot factory standard loads like federal, speer, etc.... even my carry loads are standard pressure (I'm one who believes +P is over rated)
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Hey all,
New here. Picked one of these up awhile ago and loving it. I read through most of the pages of this post, but hoping someone can answer a quick question as I'm a little confused- which Stealthgear Ventcore holster should I order for this?
Hoping to start carrying soon. Thanks!
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Hey all,
New here. Picked one of these up awhile ago and loving it. I read through most of the pages of this post, but hoping someone can answer a quick question as I'm a little confused- which Stealthgear Ventcore holster should I order for this?
Hoping to start carrying soon. Thanks!
Congrats! Get the one they make for the P-01.
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Hello everyone! Been following this thread since Dec 2016. Missed out on buying one of these when czcustom had these on sale for $529 i think. Would have bought one at full price last month until I managed to grab a P01 Omega from grabagun last month. :)
I'm still definitely eyeing one of these "SP-01 Compacts" to add to my stable.
Does anyone who where the best deals for these are currently?
Thanks!
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Hey all,
New here. Picked one of these up awhile ago and loving it. I read through most of the pages of this post, but hoping someone can answer a quick question as I'm a little confused- which Stealthgear Ventcore holster should I order for this?
Hoping to start carrying soon. Thanks!
Congrats! Get the one they make for the P-01.
Scarlett knows what he's talking about. He has the AIWB and I have the IWB.
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Hello everyone! Been following this thread since Dec 2016. Missed out on buying one of these when czcustom had these on sale for $529 i think. Would have bought one at full price last month until I managed to grab a P01 Omega from grabagun last month. :)
I'm still definitely eyeing one of these "SP-01 Compacts" to add to my stable.
Does anyone who where the best deals for these are currently?
Thanks!
Tooleshootingsupply did have a couple.
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Looked at tooleshootingsupply. I didnt see them. Where did you find them listed under? TIA
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Hello everyone! Been following this thread since Dec 2016. Missed out on buying one of these when czcustom had these on sale for $529 i think. Would have bought one at full price last month until I managed to grab a P01 Omega from grabagun last month. :)
I'm still definitely eyeing one of these "SP-01 Compacts" to add to my stable.
Does anyone who where the best deals for these are currently?
Thanks!
unless you run against a fluke gunshop having one locally CZCustom is the last place to get one, otherwise they're all dried up except for 2-3 at hoorsier armory
https://www.hoosierarmory.com/products/cz75-806703990217
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Looked at tooleshootingsupply. I didnt see them. Where did you find them listed under? TIA
Not showing now, sorry I was late :-[
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whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat????? Scarlett is selling his second pistol??? :D,,,,, I haven't done anything to my second one just yet besides lovingly kiss it goodnight every night and tell it bedtime stories but I think I'm keeping this sucker .... still waiting on my Cool Hand grips to ship out (the blue snakeskin ones)
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whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat????? Scarlett is selling his second pistol??? :D,,,,, I haven't done anything to my second one just yet besides lovingly kiss it goodnight every night and tell it bedtime stories but I think I'm keeping this sucker .... still waiting on my Cool Hand grips to ship out (the blue snakeskin ones)
I've been remodeling a house for 2 weeks and for the first time in those 2 weeks i just picked up my pistols and fondled them. I changed my mind. $1,200 isn't enough to make me part ways with my 1911 Killer. I may be biased (like parents with their kids) but this is just a stupid fantastic pistol and once it's been polished and has the race or competition hammer its just not fair to anyone who hasn't shot one.
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whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat????? Scarlett is selling his second pistol??? :D,,,,, I haven't done anything to my second one just yet besides lovingly kiss it goodnight every night and tell it bedtime stories but I think I'm keeping this sucker .... still waiting on my Cool Hand grips to ship out (the blue snakeskin ones)
I've been remodeling a house for 2 weeks and for the first time in those 2 weeks i just picked up my pistols and fondled them. I changed my mind. $1,200 isn't enough to make me part ways with my 1911 Killer. I may be biased (like parents with their kids) but this is just a stupid fantastic pistol and once it's been polished and has the race or competition hammer its just not fair to anyone who hasn't shot one.
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good boy. And I don't blame you. I haven't done ANYTHING to mine besides order some grips and a dawson fiber front site, but I can't stop shooting it. It's DEAD accurate and feels fantastic in hand. I'm almost scared what it would feel like to have something tricked out like yours
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Hey all,
New here. Picked one of these up awhile ago and loving it. I read through most of the pages of this post, but hoping someone can answer a quick question as I'm a little confused- which Stealthgear Ventcore holster should I order for this?
Hoping to start carrying soon. Thanks!
I have the StealthGear Ventcore Mini for the P01. One issue I had with it is that the right side safety would hit the kydex when holstering and take the gun out of safe. I sent it back in and they cut a notch out of it and now it works great. If you do order it you should call in your order and tell them that you have this particular pistol. Ryan or Laramie were the two guys working in my holster and know about this issue. They work in the warranty/returns dept. That or you can cut the notch yourself.
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... Does anyone who where the best deals for these are currently? ...
The best deal I've seen online is $549.95 at K-VAR, but it might be possible to find one cheaper at a local gun shop.
http://www.k-var(dot)com/shop/CZ-P01-9-BLACK-14-STEEL-99021.html
cut & paste the link, then replace the "(dot)" for a valid URL
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After shipping and transfer-fees, I got mine for $537.00, off of gunbroker
about 3months ago (factor new ofc).
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After shipping and transfer-fees, I got mine for $537.00, off of gunbroker
about 3months ago (factor new ofc).
Yes, those were the days.
Chris
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After 70 pages, I think I'm finally warming up to this gun. When do you think the next batch will come out? Got money now for a traditional compact (all steel) in stainless! C'mon CZ -- screw that striker fired fad and extend the stainless offerings to the compacts!
I'd have gobbled one of these up long ago for sure if it came in stainless!
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After 70 pages, I think I'm finally warming up to this gun. When do you think the next batch will come out? Got money now for a traditional compact (all steel) in stainless! C'mon CZ -- screw that striker fired fad and extend the stainless offerings to the compacts!
I'd have gobbled one of these up long ago for sure if it came in stainless!
supposedly it's a one off run that was created for an Asian/European client who stiffed them on the bill. Then they got liquidated here in the states
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That is in the past!
C'mon CZ!!! Stainless compact of nearly any (steel framed) variety (with a hammer) will sell! At least one!
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After 70 pages, I think I'm finally warming up to this gun. When do you think the next batch will come out? Got money now for a traditional compact (all steel) in stainless! C'mon CZ -- screw that striker fired fad and extend the stainless offerings to the compacts!
I'd have gobbled one of these up long ago for sure if it came in stainless!
supposedly it's a one off run that was created for an Asian/European client who stiffed them on the bill. Then they got liquidated here in the states
Correct. Unless CZ sees how well these sold and decides to make more, then you'll have to find one that is left or post a WTB thread... Lol I'm super impressed when people read this whole thread!
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lol, I had a LOT of insomniac nights over the last month and I've read every freaking post and then some on other forums :D. I love mine... I'm actually considering selling one of the two I have to a good friend and using those funds to get a PCR
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lol, I had a LOT of insomniac nights over the last month and I've read every freaking post and then some on other forums :D. I love mine... I'm actually considering selling one of the two I have to a good friend and using those funds to get a PCR
PCR's are pretty awesome from what I hear! If I ever get a decocker it will be a PCR. May the force guide you in your decision!
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Happy to have found this thread. I was looking at buying the P-01, but decided on this "SP-01 Compact" because it is mainly going to be in my car instead of being carried. I figured the extra weight of the steel frame was a good thing. So I bought one about a week ago off GunBroker.com and picked it up from my FFL dealer a couple days ago.
It's only my second CZ (P-09 the first), both of which I got around the same time. I've been reading about CZs for years but no one near me carries CZs. I finally had to resort to online sellers. I won't be able to shoot either until Saturday, but boy...I can already tell they're quality! Solid, tight, and ergonomic. My FFL dealer kept remarking about how good the gun felt in his hand. Maybe if I buy a few more CZs (likely given what I've read here so far) then they'll become a dealer!
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Congrats on your new guns, you're gonna like them....a lot.
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Happy to have found this thread. I was looking at buying the P-01, but decided on this "SP-01 Compact" because it is mainly going to be in my car instead of being carried. I figured the extra weight of the steel frame was a good thing. So I bought one about a week ago off GunBroker.com and picked it up from my FFL dealer a couple days ago.
It's only my second CZ (P-09 the first), both of which I got around the same time. I've been reading about CZs for years but no one near me carries CZs. I finally had to resort to online sellers. I won't be able to shoot either until Saturday, but boy...I can already tell they're quality! Solid, tight, and ergonomic. My FFL dealer kept remarking about how good the gun felt in his hand. Maybe if I buy a few more CZs (likely given what I've read here so far) then they'll become a dealer!
congrats on the gun! it will NOT be your last CZ... they're fantastic shooters and built amazingly well for the price. shoot the crap out of them and tell us how you feel
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congrats on the gun! it will NOT be your last CZ... they're fantastic shooters and built amazingly well for the price. shoot the crap out of them and tell us how you feel
Congrats on your new guns, you're gonna like them....a lot.
Thanks! I took the compact and the P-09 out to the range today (well, really my friend's back property). I haven't had an all steel gun since I sold my AMT Backup years ago. Let's just say the 75 D Compact shot a helluva lot better! The P-09 really impressed me in the accuracy and follow-up shot categories. I was hitting a steel silhouette at about 50 yards. And it just seemed to snap back in place after every shot. It makes me want to try a full size CZ 75.
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Holy cow, how cool would a stainless railed compact be? I think I'd just about sell a kidney for one should they make it. They could do it if they wanted. Make a thousand of them and they'll sell out quickly.
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Happy to have found this thread. I was looking at buying the P-01, but decided on this "SP-01 Compact" because it is mainly going to be in my car instead of being carried. I figured the extra weight of the steel frame was a good thing. So I bought one about a week ago off GunBroker.com and picked it up from my FFL dealer a couple days ago.
It's only my second CZ (P-09 the first), both of which I got around the same time. I've been reading about CZs for years but no one near me carries CZs. I finally had to resort to online sellers. I won't be able to shoot either until Saturday, but boy...I can already tell they're quality! Solid, tight, and ergonomic. My FFL dealer kept remarking about how good the gun felt in his hand. Maybe if I buy a few more CZs (likely given what I've read here so far) then they'll become a dealer!
Metal framed guns in car, there is much less concern about heating and cooling negatively affecting the weapon's structural integrity as well. In TX heat, that's always a concern of mine w/ polymer framed weapons...
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Here in Pennsylvania, we worry about polymers freezing and breaking!! :) 34 degrees this morning!!! Headed to range anyway! BTW Scarlet Pistol, I am sure I've read this entire thread twice maybe three times!! (yes, I have a life)
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Guys, you're seeing boogers in your oatmeal. I've never seen evidence of a plastic pistol melting or cracking due to temperature extremes. I have seen, or shall I say felt, first hand evidence that steel is significantly heavier than plastic or aluminum, which is why they exist as options.
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i use to like oatmeal...
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I think the melting point of a polymer pistol frame is fairly high (like >400 degrees), but I have had some cheap plastic things warp in my car on a hot day. So I can understand the concern. I do wonder how the rubber grips would fair. Could they get hot enough to be squishy? I won't know because I'm replacing them anyway with some G-10 grips.
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If anyone is still looking for one of these guns PM me with an offer my FFL has one it's not mine that's why don't put it in the classifieds but I am willing to pass on reasonable offers
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Guys, you're seeing boogers in your oatmeal. I've never seen evidence of a plastic pistol melting or cracking due to temperature extremes. I have seen, or shall I say felt, first hand evidence that steel is significantly heavier than plastic or aluminum, which is why they exist as options.
If I recall correctly, FN had a pistol that had issues with the frame warping due to heat and Glocks have the condition known as "pig nose" which can come from the factory or result from heat during use.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdTsFB1ejo8
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If anyone is still looking for one of these guns PM me with an offer my FFL has one it's not mine that's why don't put it in the classifieds but I am willing to pass on reasonable offers
I've never known a FFL that takes offers. ::) They usually just have an asking price.
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If anyone is still looking for one of these guns PM me with an offer my FFL has one it's not mine that's why don't put it in the classifieds but I am willing to pass on reasonable offers
I've never known a FFL that takes offers. ::) They usually just have an asking price.
It's a buyers market in the firearms industry right now! ;)
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If anyone is still looking for one of these guns PM me with an offer my FFL has one it's not mine that's why don't put it in the classifieds but I am willing to pass on reasonable offers
I've never known a FFL that takes offers. ::) They usually just have an asking price.
It's a buyers market in the firearms industry right now! ;)
Exactly...so it makes no sense to take "offers"
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If anyone is still looking for one of these guns PM me with an offer my FFL has one it's not mine that's why don't put it in the classifieds but I am willing to pass on reasonable offers
I've never known a FFL that takes offers. ::) They usually just have an asking price.
It's a buyers market in the firearms industry right now! ;)
Exactly...so it makes no sense to take "offers"
Wait, a buyer's market means the power is with the buyers as stock tends to hang around. In my experience, every price is negotiable... And in most cultures, haggling is a given -- any European street market, Central and South America, Africa, Asia, etc.
Firearms in particular -- well, the gun guide price or msrp is X, but this gun has a scratch here and here, etc, type of conversation to devalue is often successful. Many vendors will also do a 5%-10% cash discount, throw in free mags/accessories, etc, to close a deal.
Nothing wrong with haggling.
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Anyone here more about these? More comin in? New prices? Used prices?
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Anyone here more about these? More comin in? New prices? Used prices?
If you read the thread. There was only a limited number. No more coming in as far as anything I've read.
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Anyone here more about these? More comin in? New prices? Used prices?
Tooele shooting supply has one in stock right now.
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Anyone here more about these? More comin in? New prices? Used prices?
Tooele shooting supply has one in stock right now.
CZ Custom has it in stock, too...
https://czcustom.com/new-firearms/cz-pistols-factory/75-b-compact-rail.html (https://czcustom.com/new-firearms/cz-pistols-factory/75-b-compact-rail.html)
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Someone is selling one locally in AZ right now. $650
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My full size and P10 have been getting all the love lately so decided to break mine out today..... :D What a fun gun to shoot. If you get the chance to get one I highly recommend it.
Trying to decide whether or not to throw the CGW Pro package in it...
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If you like it in stock form, just wait until you throw the Pro Package in it! You will love it. I know I absolutely love mine. O0
I somewhat regretted selling my 2nd one, but it is in good hands and it allowed me to get a P-01 Omega.
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Yeah... Fair warning these pistols take to the CGW parts very very well (generally). Seems like the reset in this batch is very good with Cajun parts and without the FPB CGW is measuring stupid short resets. One of those was on TexanFX2's pistol. You're going to enjoy the pistol that much more with the upgrades!
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Yeah... Fair warning these pistols take to the CGW parts very very well (generally). Seems like the reset in this batch is very good with Cajun parts and without the FPB CGW is measuring stupid short resets. One of those was on TexanFX2's pistol. You're going to enjoy the pistol that much more with the upgrades!
Ugghhhh, I was afraid that would be the answer.... now to find the $$ to pay for it 8)
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Yeah... Fair warning these pistols take to the CGW parts very very well (generally). Seems like the reset in this batch is very good with Cajun parts and without the FPB CGW is measuring stupid short resets. One of those was on TexanFX2's pistol. You're going to enjoy the pistol that much more with the upgrades!
Ugghhhh, I was afraid that would be the answer.... now to find the $$ to pay for it 8)
If you don't want to buy the most expensive package to start you can get specific parts to get started. Here's a thread where I tested the impact of various upgrades to get an idea of what to buy for the most improvement in the trigger.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=83591.0
Hope that helps get you started without you having to feel obligated to spend $300 out the gates (although that may also be in your future, its stupid addicting how nice you can make this pistols with parts from CGW of CZC).
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Yeah... Fair warning these pistols take to the CGW parts very very well (generally). Seems like the reset in this batch is very good with Cajun parts and without the FPB CGW is measuring stupid short resets. One of those was on TexanFX2's pistol. You're going to enjoy the pistol that much more with the upgrades!
Ugghhhh, I was afraid that would be the answer.... now to find the $$ to pay for it 8)
If you don't want to buy the most expensive package to start you can get specific parts to get started. Here's a thread where I tested the impact of various upgrades to get an idea of what to buy for the most improvement in the trigger.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=83591.0
Hope that helps get you started without you having to feel obligated to spend $300 out the gates (although that may also be in your future, its stupid addicting how nice you can make this pistols with parts from CGW of CZC).
I may, or may not, have already read that thread.... more than once ;D (But thanks for posting the link again). Really good stuff and I appreciate the work you put into capturing the results of each change.
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Ha, good deal. Just wanted to be safe and share it saves a lot of typing [emoji48]
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I think I stumbled on one of these pistols but coincidence. My first CZ pistol. Hefty, but great shooter
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Just picked one of these up for myself. Cannot wait to get it to the range.
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They really are great shooters. While hefty, they do carry well in a good carry rig. These would absolutely suck to try to carry them in a cheap nylon holster and dress belt. That weight would have them flopping around more than a bra-less 80 year old ex-stripper while jogging.
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They really are great shooters. While hefty, they do carry well in a good carry rig. These would absolutely suck to try to carry them in a cheap nylon holster and dress belt. That weight would have them flopping around more than a bra-less 80 year old ex-stripper while jogging.
Well Indy_Tim, you win the award for most creative descriptive writing on the forum for today.... You're right though, with a good holster and belt I was surprised how well this carried. I still don't recommend it to people for carry, but I carry mine because I can shoot it well and I really like it. I think I could carry 3 or 4 Glock 43's for the weight of this bad boy loaded.
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If they only made 500 is there a way to tell what number you have just bought one today...thank you ..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170608/a3f5f980b07c6b9c7adfa7b1f8911fdf.jpg)
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If they only made 500 is there a way to tell what number you have just bought one today...thank you ..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170608/a3f5f980b07c6b9c7adfa7b1f8911fdf.jpg)
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That was the initial number CZ USA reported bringing into the stares. It seems like the brought the rest of that run in and we think there are 1,600 total. With the way CZ assigns the numbers the batch is not sequentially numbered... So short of getting documents from CZ UB we're out of luck.
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If they only made 500 is there a way to tell what number you have just bought one today...thank you ..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170608/a3f5f980b07c6b9c7adfa7b1f8911fdf.jpg)
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That was the initial number CZ USA reported bringing into the stares. It seems like the brought the rest of that run in and we think there are 1,600 total. With the way CZ assigns the numbers the batch is not sequentially numbered... So short of getting documents from CZ UB we're out of luck.
Well either way I'm happy with my purchase thanks for the reply.
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That was the initial number CZ USA reported bringing into the stares. It seems like the brought the rest of that run in and we think there are 1,600 total. With the way CZ assigns the numbers the batch is not sequentially numbered... So short of getting documents from CZ UB we're out of luck.
Well either way I'm happy with my purchase thanks for the reply.
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I hope you didn't take that in a disheartening way, that's definitely not how I meant it. These are great little pistols and take very well to mods if you want to do more to it. Definitely a worthwhile purchase!
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If they only made 500 is there a way to tell what number you have just bought one today...thank you ..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170608/a3f5f980b07c6b9c7adfa7b1f8911fdf.jpg)
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That was the initial number CZ USA reported bringing into the stares. It seems like the brought the rest of that run in and we think there are 1,600 total. With the way CZ assigns the numbers the batch is not sequentially numbered... So short of getting documents from CZ UB we're out of luck.
Well either way I'm happy with my purchase thanks for the reply.
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I hope you didn't take that in a disheartening way, that's definitely not how I meant it. These are great little pistols and take very well to mods if you want to do more to it. Definitely a worthwhile purchase!
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Not one bit....my sp01 & p01 have cgw parts... so looks like this one is getting the same treatment
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Just added some Pachmayr G10 grips to mine.
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Just added some Pachmayr G10 grips to mine.
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Those look great. I bought some green Pachmayr G10 grips for mine, but then discovered that the factory cross threaded one of the grip screws. I sent it off for warranty service and can't wait for it to come back. Should be a few more weeks. Sigh...
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Are those grips thinner than stock?
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Are those grips thinner than stock?
Yes, they are thinner then the stock grips, however they are not quite as thin as the VZ grips that I have on my P-01.
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Vz grips it is. I have a hard time reaching the safety.
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Vz grips it is. I have a hard time reaching the safety.
The thinnest g10 grips are the thin grips by Lok. The thinnest of all are the things aluminum grips.
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Well, today I shipped my sp-01 compact off to CGW to get refinished. I'm going to get it black nitrided, After shooting about 1000 or so rounds through it, and carrying it for awhile,It's been my experience that CZ's polycoat is just worthless. While shooting with a silver ring on my right hand, I quickly wore a spot on the grip through the polycoat and down to the bare steel. Nitriding will be a much, much, more durable finish. I'm also getting the barrel done inside and out and as many small parts as possible. My idea is to make this as rust resistant as possible. I already have 4 mags done in electroless nickel.(when carrying a reload, I found that these start rusting rather easily as well) Since the P-10 c is nitrided, (and we know CZ can do it) I'm hoping that CZ will drop the polycoat and nitride their pistols in the future,that would be a huge improvement. When this pistol is done, this is going to make a great carry gun, I can't wait.
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I managed to find one of these used at a LGS for $475. Bought it immediately. It hadn't been registered and was LNIB. I haven't seen this variant elsewhere before so was suspicious it was rare. Glad to see I was correct.
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I managed to find one of these used at a LGS for $475. Bought it immediately. It hadn't been registered and was LNIB. I haven't seen this variant elsewhere before so was suspicious it was rare. Glad to see I was correct.
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Nice find!
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I managed to find one of these used at a LGS for $475. Bought it immediately. It hadn't been registered and was LNIB. I haven't seen this variant elsewhere before so was suspicious it was rare. Glad to see I was correct.
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Nice find, and a excellant price, these are on the rare side, and they do take well to mods with CGW parts.With a good holster/belt they aren't bad to carry either.
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Does anyone AIWB carry this firearm? Any recommendations on affordable Holsters? ~$70 range? This might be an option for me on days I feel like a little more ammo than my j frame or P938
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I got one a couple weeks ago - still available here: http://www.k-var.com/shop/CZ-P01-9-BLACK-14-STEEL-99021.html
Love it, of course I am knee deep in CGW parts too - getting ready to install the disco and FPB arm lift.
Trigger is really creepy, I don't want it too light though as it's a carry gun.
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Does anyone AIWB carry this firearm? Any recommendations on affordable Holsters? ~$70 range? This might be an option for me on days I feel like a little more ammo than my j frame or P938
I did a LOT of research on this and lots of calls. Ended up with a Garret Holsters. Absolutely fantastic and excellent quality. These are Kydex with leather liner, so the best of both worlds. I got both IWB and OWB holsters.
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Does anyone AIWB carry this firearm? Any recommendations on affordable Holsters? ~$70 range? This might be an option for me on days I feel like a little more ammo than my j frame or P938
I did a LOT of research on this and lots of calls. Ended up with a Garret Holsters. Absolutely fantastic and excellent quality. These are Kydex with leather liner, so the best of both worlds. I got both IWB and OWB holsters.
Pics? Always love seeing what you like TexanFX2!
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I've carried mine AIWB in a Sheppard holster made for a Witness
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Scarlett:
The IWB holster is at another location (You already know why), but I will post pics of the OWB when I get home.
This is the IWB in case some wonder. http://www.giholsters.com/product-p/hst2000.htm (http://www.giholsters.com/product-p/hst2000.htm)
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I had a Garrett Silent Thunder for a P-30 I had for awhile..The only thing I did'nt like about it was the leather lining started peeling away from the edges of the holster, Frankly, myself, I think I'd rather have unlined kydex..
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For a polymer gun, Kydex is fine, but for these all steel, I definitely want the added protection. I am extra careful with my gear, and Garrett's are great people I know they will take care of it in such unfortunate event.
@Scarlett: Here's my OWB
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That's why I sent mine to CGW, to get diassembled, and get black nitrided.. kydex, no problem.
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Tex I like those holster!
I draw my SP-01 from a Blade-tech quite a bit for dry fire and live fire. Haven't had any wear through the poly yet... But I have seen that wear from rings on fingers and what not. One day I will make the final excuse and send mine off to get the hard chrome treatment. David at CGW said that his favorite finish is electroless nickel as a base and then hard chrome over the top. Yes, please!!!!
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LOL - I thought about having that finish done while my "SP-01 Compact" was there, but I guess I was too anxious to get it back ASAP after the "long" wait and didn't want to add more time on top of it. Guess I should have done then. The SP-01 could be another candidate though...and it is still there. Hmmmm
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LOL - I thought about having that finish done while my "SP-01 Compact" was there, but I guess I was too anxious to get it back ASAP after the "long" wait and didn't want to add more time on top of it. Guess I should have done then. The SP-01 could be another candidate though...and it is still there. Hmmmm
Don't call and ask David about his experiences with Hard Chrome and why he thinks having the electroles Nickel under the Hard Chrome is even better. If you do you'll want it for every gun you own! Trust me, I am struggling with this problem now. I just need a lot more $$$$ then I'll be happy! O0
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LOL - I thought about having that finish done while my "SP-01 Compact" was there, but I guess I was too anxious to get it back ASAP after the "long" wait and didn't want to add more time on top of it. Guess I should have done then. The SP-01 could be another candidate though...and it is still there. Hmmmm
Don't call and ask David about his experiences with Hard Chrome and why he thinks having the electroles Nickel under the Hard Chrome is even better. If you do you'll want it for every gun you own! Trust me, I am struggling with this problem now. I just need a lot more $$$$ then I'll be happy! O0
I was looking for a black finish, and I had narrowed it down to either a black nitride finish, or black hard chrome..I e mailed David, who explained to me that the black hard chorme wasn't very durable, so I went with black nitride. I have a g19 I carried for about 3yrs , many times in the summer I've sweat all over it. To this day, there's no rust on it except for the aftermarket rear sight which does rust up, if I don't keep a eye on it. One nice thing about nitride, is you can do the barrel inside and out. Honestly, I wish CZ would offer some options for finishes besides polycoat, which at this point in time, I'm not real impressed with...
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Agree on the poly coat....My steel compact is 3 months old and a leather IWB holster has started to wear through to the steel in two small spots on the sharp lines. Oiled up I may not notice it. Nitride seems the way to go.
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he thinks having the electroles Nickel under the Hard Chrome is even better. If you do you'll want it for every gun you own!
I had one of my aluminum framed HiPowers finished in hard chrome. The frame was finished in nickel first so that the hard chrome would adhere to it. Before and after...
(https://s10.postimg.org/ocdet2a15/85_Alloy_Hi_Power.jpg)
(https://s10.postimg.org/fvdwi55c9/Alloy_Hi_Power_left_view.jpg)
You are correct. It looks great.
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Was finally able to take my SP-01 compact to the range this weekend and this is an accurate little pistol. One thing I did notice is the frame and grip area do get nice and warm after firing around 100 rounds out of it.
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I got to handle one locally a couple days back. The safety levers were smaller than I'd like, but otherwise a nice gun. It might make a good starting point for a single stack compact if CZ ever goes in that direction.
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Fired mine in a local competition today. Great little pistol except for the sights. I need to do something about those.
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To those who have converted one of these to SAO, are you happy with it?
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Fired mine in a local competition today. Great little pistol except for the sights. I need to do something about those.
I received my slide from CGW today, had them install the 310-221Trijicon night sights. Sight picture is awesome. Didn't get a chance to shoot it, but can't stop drawing and dry firing. Probably not what you're looking for since you're shooting comp, but thought I'd share. Here's a link to a few pictures. DP Trijicon Night Sights Set https://imgur.com/a/b40GO
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To those who have converted one of these to SAO, are you happy with it?
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Fired mine in a local competition today. Great little pistol except for the sights. I need to do something about those.
I received my slide from CGW today, had them install the 310-221Trijicon night sights. Sight picture is awesome. Didn't get a chance to shoot it, but can't stop drawing and dry firing. Probably not what you're looking for since you're shooting comp, but thought I'd share. Here's a link to a few pictures. DP Trijicon Night Sights Set https://imgur.com/a/b40GO
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Dang that is good looking! My SAO just gets better and better!
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To those who have converted one of these to SAO, are you happy with it?
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Fired mine in a local competition today. Great little pistol except for the sights. I need to do something about those.
I received my slide from CGW today, had them install the 310-221Trijicon night sights. Sight picture is awesome. Didn't get a chance to shoot it, but can't stop drawing and dry firing. Probably not what you're looking for since you're shooting comp, but thought I'd share. Here's a link to a few pictures. DP Trijicon Night Sights Set https://imgur.com/a/b40GO
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What was your wait time?
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To those who have converted one of these to SAO, are you happy with it?
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Fired mine in a local competition today. Great little pistol except for the sights. I need to do something about those.
I received my slide from CGW today, had them install the 310-221Trijicon night sights. Sight picture is awesome. Didn't get a chance to shoot it, but can't stop drawing and dry firing. Probably not what you're looking for since you're shooting comp, but thought I'd share. Here's a link to a few pictures. DP Trijicon Night Sights Set https://imgur.com/a/b40GO
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What was your wait time?
I believe CGW received my slide on 06-22-17 and it was back in my mailbox on 07-01-17. I was originally told the wait time would be two weeks so I was pleasantly surprised.
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To those who have converted one of these to SAO, are you happy with it?
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Fired mine in a local competition today. Great little pistol except for the sights. I need to do something about those.
I received my slide from CGW today, had them install the 310-221Trijicon night sights. Sight picture is awesome. Didn't get a chance to shoot it, but can't stop drawing and dry firing. Probably not what you're looking for since you're shooting comp, but thought I'd share. Here's a link to a few pictures. DP Trijicon Night Sights Set https://imgur.com/a/b40GO
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Dang that is good looking! My SAO just gets better and better!
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Thanks! I think I could of saved some money going with the shadow 2 at this point lol. What's your trigger weight at the moment?
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Thanks! I think I could of saved some money going with the shadow 2 at this point lol. What's your trigger weight at the moment?
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Haha you say that now but you would of likely been sucked into all the upgrades for it too.
I wanted mine with a lighter trigger to rival any 1911. It's breaking at 1 lb 15 Oz now. I think it dropped from staking the sear cage more than break in though... Normally the Race Hammer doesn't break that light.
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Thanks! I think I could of saved some money going with the shadow 2 at this point lol. What's your trigger weight at the moment?
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Haha you say that now but you would of likely been sucked into all the upgrades for it too.
I wanted mine with a lighter trigger to rival any 1911. It's breaking at 1 lb 15 Oz now. I think it dropped from staking the sear cage more than break in though... Normally the Race Hammer doesn't break that light.
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Oh wow, that sounds fantastic! How much weight did you drop in staking the sear cage? Did you have CGW do some work on your hammer hooks by chance?
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Thanks! I think I could of saved some money going with the shadow 2 at this point lol. What's your trigger weight at the moment?
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Haha you say that now but you would of likely been sucked into all the upgrades for it too.
I wanted mine with a lighter trigger to rival any 1911. It's breaking at 1 lb 15 Oz now. I think it dropped from staking the sear cage more than break in though... Normally the Race Hammer doesn't break that light.
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Oh wow, that sounds fantastic! How much weight did you drop in staking the sear cage? Did you have CGW do some work on your hammer hooks by chance?
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I dropped almost half a pound with staking e sear cage. Mine had a good amount of play. So much so that the pistol went back to CGW because I thought the hammer hooks were off and Scott wanted to look at it. While it was there Scott touched up the hooks for me a little to lighten the break.
Anyway, staking the sear cage also helped make the trigger break even cleaner. Just so crisp and clean.
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I wanted mine with a lighter trigger to rival any 1911. It's breaking at 1 lb 15 Oz now.
I think you might have overdone it a bit.
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I wanted mine with a lighter trigger to rival any 1911. It's breaking at 1 lb 15 Oz now.
I think you might have overdone it a bit.
It's all personal preference. All my CZ's have about a 2.5 lb trigger pull with the CZC Competition hammers so I'm very accustomed to light SA triggers. BUT I don't let anyone shoot it unless they dry fire it to get acquainted with it.
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I'm thinking about picking up one of the CZ 75 Compacts (frame looks like a P-01 but is steel) to shoot for a defensive pistol match. I think I'd prefer to have a left side safety lever more like the one on the 75 Shadow. Would this be a simple parts swap?
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I'm thinking about picking up one of the CZ 75 Compacts (frame looks like a P-01 but is steel) to shoot for a defensive pistol match. I think I'd prefer to have a left side safety lever more like the one on the 75 Shadow. Would this be a simple parts swap?
Here's a list of compatible parts, just for future reference.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=86691.0
Here's a thread on swapping g the left side safety. It's really simple, there's just a little material removal from the safety bar or the inside of the right side safety where the safety bar inserts into it. I remove material from bothering now (used to just do the left side safety bar). There's a little video on page 2 explaining what to do.
If you need any help on getting it apart and back together here's some videos.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=85985.0
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Thanks! I think I could of saved some money going with the shadow 2 at this point lol. What's your trigger weight at the moment?
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Haha you say that now but you would of likely been sucked into all the upgrades for it too.
I wanted mine with a lighter trigger to rival any 1911. It's breaking at 1 lb 15 Oz now. I think it dropped from staking the sear cage more than break in though... Normally the Race Hammer doesn't break that light.
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Oh wow, that sounds fantastic! How much weight did you drop in staking the sear cage? Did you have CGW do some work on your hammer hooks by chance?
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I dropped almost half a pound with staking e sear cage. Mine had a good amount of play. So much so that the pistol went back to CGW because I thought the hammer hooks were off and Scott wanted to look at it. While it was there Scott touched up the hooks for me a little to lighten the break.
Anyway, staking the sear cage also helped make the trigger break even cleaner. Just so crisp and clean.
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Where did all the play in the sear cage come from? I'm running CGW sear cage and I have no play at all. I'm hoping to drop a few ounces after the break in period. I've only shot mine maybe 150 rds.
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Where did all the play in the sear cage come from? I'm running CGW sear cage and I have no play at all. I'm hoping to drop a few ounces after the break in period. I've only shot mine maybe 150 rds.
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It's just the machining tolerances. On some of the pistols there's just a thousandth off and with the sear cage that can cause some extra weight in the trigger pull.
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Posted this group from a wrist rest today at 25 yards. I've never pulled that off before. These are some stupid accurate little pistols! Wish I could put this in a ransom rest to truly test it. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170703/7b9fb4a000dd440a8131e57f2c160784.jpg)
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Thanks! I think I could of saved some money going with the shadow 2 at this point lol. What's your trigger weight at the moment?
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Haha you say that now but you would of likely been sucked into all the upgrades for it too.
I wanted mine with a lighter trigger to rival any 1911. It's breaking at 1 lb 15 Oz now. I think it dropped from staking the sear cage more than break in though... Normally the Race Hammer doesn't break that light.
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Oh wow, that sounds fantastic! How much weight did you drop in staking the sear cage? Did you have CGW do some work on your hammer hooks by chance?
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I dropped almost half a pound with staking e sear cage. Mine had a good amount of play. So much so that the pistol went back to CGW because I thought the hammer hooks were off and Scott wanted to look at it. While it was there Scott touched up the hooks for me a little to lighten the break.
Anyway, staking the sear cage also helped make the trigger break even cleaner. Just so crisp and clean.
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Where did all the play in the sear cage come from? I'm running CGW sear cage and I have no play at all. I'm hoping to drop a few ounces after the break in period. I've only shot mine maybe 150 rds.
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What do you mean you are running a "CGW seat cage"?
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Thanks! I think I could of saved some money going with the shadow 2 at this point lol. What's your trigger weight at the moment?
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Haha you say that now but you would of likely been sucked into all the upgrades for it too.
I wanted mine with a lighter trigger to rival any 1911. It's breaking at 1 lb 15 Oz now. I think it dropped from staking the sear cage more than break in though... Normally the Race Hammer doesn't break that light.
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Oh wow, that sounds fantastic! How much weight did you drop in staking the sear cage? Did you have CGW do some work on your hammer hooks by chance?
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I dropped almost half a pound with staking e sear cage. Mine had a good amount of play. So much so that the pistol went back to CGW because I thought the hammer hooks were off and Scott wanted to look at it. While it was there Scott touched up the hooks for me a little to lighten the break.
Anyway, staking the sear cage also helped make the trigger break even cleaner. Just so crisp and clean.
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Where did all the play in the sear cage come from? I'm running CGW sear cage and I have no play at all. I'm hoping to drop a few ounces after the break in period. I've only shot mine maybe 150 rds.
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What do you mean you are running a "CGW seat cage"?
Oh I meant sear, not see sear cage. Sorry for the confusion.
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Thanks! I think I could of saved some money going with the shadow 2 at this point lol. What's your trigger weight at the moment?
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Haha you say that now but you would of likely been sucked into all the upgrades for it too.
I wanted mine with a lighter trigger to rival any 1911. It's breaking at 1 lb 15 Oz now. I think it dropped from staking the sear cage more than break in though... Normally the Race Hammer doesn't break that light.
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Oh wow, that sounds fantastic! How much weight did you drop in staking the sear cage? Did you have CGW do some work on your hammer hooks by chance?
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I dropped almost half a pound with staking e sear cage. Mine had a good amount of play. So much so that the pistol went back to CGW because I thought the hammer hooks were off and Scott wanted to look at it. While it was there Scott touched up the hooks for me a little to lighten the break.
Anyway, staking the sear cage also helped make the trigger break even cleaner. Just so crisp and clean.
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Where did all the play in the sear cage come from? I'm running CGW sear cage and I have no play at all. I'm hoping to drop a few ounces after the break in period. I've only shot mine maybe 150 rds.
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What do you mean you are running a "CGW seat cage"?
Oh I meant sear, not see sear cage. Sorry for the confusion.
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Hell, apparently I can't even spell "sear" correctly so don't worry about it.
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Impromptu range trip to test the new sights, and to sight in an optic on the AR. The sights are fantastic! I'm in love with the trigger on the CZ, so much so that I didn't pick the AR after the optic was dialed in. Had every intention of posting pics of my groups until the ppl a lane over started shooting at my target [emoji35] (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170703/f3acc8406a70d05aba7185c7c13c513c.jpg)
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Impromptu range trip to test the new sights, and to sight in an optic on the AR. The sights are fantastic! I'm in love with the trigger on the CZ, so much so that I didn't pick the AR after the optic was dialed in. Had every intention of posting pics of my groups until the ppl a lane over started shooting at my target [emoji35] (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170703/f3acc8406a70d05aba7185c7c13c513c.jpg)
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Very nice! Ha, that sucks when people shoot your target.... Post groups from the next time and glad you're enjoying your trigger!
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Well my CZ SP-01 compact is fully stripped, internals getting a polish and waiting on my SAO conversion and other goodies to arrive from Cajun Gun Works. I'm stoked. Will post pics of the final product when I get it! You all have inspired me.
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I was fortunate enough to snag one of these when they were still available. Replaced my Sig with it and never looked back. I find it surprisingly comfortable to carry despite the weight.
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Has anyone done a side to side with this and a P-01?
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Good think I didn't pick up those two SIGs at the gun store the other day.
We went to the gun show this morning and that same dealer I bought my SP01 compact off of a few months still had some.
I bought another one.
Why? I don't know.
Man, the trigger pull on this one is tough. If it was DA only though it might be sweet. It's easy to feel the stopping point in DA and get the sights lined up before the hammer releases.
Now, put it in the gun safe, or play with it (modify/carry/shoot it?) We'll have to see about that.
You know, if I was still going to do the father/son project thing it'll probably turn out better with these two CZ 75 Compacts vs. the two SIG 239's.
That parts list is very interesting. Expensive, but interesting.
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Has anyone done a side to side with this and a P-01?
I haven't done a direct comparison since I don't have one but I've heard bits and pieces to the point where I think I could answer about anything you'd want to know.... What a up?
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Good think I didn't pick up those two SIGs at the gun store the other day.
We went to the gun show this morning and that same dealer I bought my SP01 compact off of a few months still had some.
I bought another one.
Why? I don't know.
Man, the trigger pull on this one is tough. If it was DA only though it might be sweet. It's easy to feel the stopping point in DA and get the sights lined up before the hammer releases.
Now, put it in the gun safe, or play with it (modify/carry/shoot it?) We'll have to see about that.
You know, if I was still going to do the father/son project thing it'll probably turn out better with these two CZ 75 Compacts vs. the two SIG 239's.
That parts list is very interesting. Expensive, but interesting.
The hammer hooks on these all seemed pretty rough to me... Did you get a fair price? I know you're problem. I got my second SP-01 Compact and thought I would put it in the safe but then I ended up working on it to hand it down to my daughter... Then my youngest sister got one and we're going to work on it together.
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Has anyone done a side to side with this and a P-01?
I haven't done a direct comparison since I don't have one but I've heard bits and pieces to the point where I think I could answer about anything you'd want to know.... What a up?
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I'm just unsure about the weight of the SP-01 Compact. Now that I won the holster from the raffle, I'm really starting to look at carry guns. I keep flipping between the P10C, P07, P01, and this.
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Has anyone done a side to side with this and a P-01?
I haven't done a direct comparison since I don't have one but I've heard bits and pieces to the point where I think I could answer about anything you'd want to know.... What a up?
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I'm just unsure about the weight of the SP-01 Compact. Now that I won the holster from the raffle, I'm really starting to look at carry guns. I keep flipping between the P10C, P07, P01, and this.
CZ Custom has a pic of one of these on a scale with no mag at 2 lbs 3.1 ounces or 35.1 ounces. The P-01 is 28.1 ounces. These are heavy and definitely not the carry pistol for everyone. A good belt and holster make it surprisingly comfortable and concealable since it is basically the same size as the P-01. I guess it all depends on your lifestyle and carry preferences. Lots of people carry single stacks and pocket guns. You could probably carry 2 sig p938's for the weight of this pistol... But then you wouldn't have this indestructible tank that has a wide frame like your S2 and eats recoil like nothing.
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I guess realistically 7oz is nothing. I'm thinking about selling my 85C and getting one of these. I pretty much never touch the 85C now other than using it for my Kadet kit. Wish I could have picked up one of these when they were on sale for cheaper!!
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I guess realistically 7oz is nothing. I'm thinking about selling my 85C and getting one of these. I pretty much never touch the 85C now other than using it for my Kadet kit. Wish I could have picked up one of these when they were on sale for cheaper!!
Oh the lonely 85C... I would have gotten a PCR but I didn't want a decocker. Either way, don't feel committed just from me. Most guys seem to have a compact and a subcompact for carry, but it's a pretty personal journey. KVAR posted on here a while back that he had them in stock. He has a decent price, few bucks cheaper than CZ Custom. He still has them listed in stock.
http://www.k-var.com/shop/CZ-P01-9-BLACK-14-STEEL-99021.html
Just be warned, every one of these that I've worked on has a pretty gritty oem hammer (it's up in the hammer hooks). Like with your other CZ's you'll want one of the better hammers. They're taking well to all the upgrades, especially the CGW bushing. Got 4 of 4 shots in a USPSA target from 100 yards this weekend (standing 2 hand grip). The group wasn't great, my fault, so I didn't get a pic. But I got 1 3/4" from a wrist rest at 25 yards about a week ago.
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I guess realistically 7oz is nothing. I'm thinking about selling my 85C and getting one of these. I pretty much never touch the 85C now other than using it for my Kadet kit. Wish I could have picked up one of these when they were on sale for cheaper!!
Oh the lonely 85C... I would have gotten a PCR but I didn't want a decocker. Either way, don't feel committed just from me. Most guys seem to have a compact and a subcompact for carry, but it's a pretty personal journey. KVAR posted on here a while back that he had them in stock. He has a decent price, few bucks cheaper than CZ Custom. He still has them listed in stock.
http://www.k-var.com/shop/CZ-P01-9-BLACK-14-STEEL-99021.html
Just be warned, every one of these that I've worked on has a pretty gritty oem hammer (it's up in the hammer hooks). Like with your other CZ's you'll want one of the better hammers. They're taking well to all the upgrades, especially the CGW bushing. Got 4 of 4 shots in a USPSA target from 100 yards this weekend (standing 2 hand grip). The group wasn't great, my fault, so I didn't get a pic. But I got 1 3/4" from a wrist rest at 25 yards about a week ago.
Yea, I won't be home for another 4 months so there's still some time. I do want to try out the P10C, but I haven't seen one yet unfortunately. I don't think I can even hit a target at 50 yards so I'm not too worried about that :P I guess after seeing the gun for $525, I don't want to pay more for it haha.
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Yea, I won't be home for another 4 months so there's still some time. I do want to try out the P10C, but I haven't seen one yet unfortunately. I don't think I can even hit a target at 50 yards so I'm not too worried about that :P I guess after seeing the gun for $525, I don't want to pay more for it haha.
Ahh yes, the awesome way you have to buy. Me neither but I do want to try them out. I'll be curious to hear your thoughts on it when you gets your hands on one. Yeah... It sucks how much more they are now.
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Yea, I won't be home for another 4 months so there's still some time. I do want to try out the P10C, but I haven't seen one yet unfortunately. I don't think I can even hit a target at 50 yards so I'm not too worried about that :P I guess after seeing the gun for $525, I don't want to pay more for it haha.
Ahh yes, the awesome way you have to buy. Me neither but I do want to try them out. I'll be curious to hear your thoughts on it when you gets your hands on one. Yeah... It sucks how much more they are now.
I had the chance to try and shoot one in Texas when I was there, but I didn't have time to go to the shooting range :( I might be able to try one out when I go back for Thanksgiving, and then I can buy it and pick it up in December I suppose.
My ranges are getting the 509 and APX in, but no P10cs :( Hopefully soon.
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Ok, so the SAO conversion went well. The TS safety went on without issue as well. Upgraded the firing pin retaining pin and trigger pin to CGW parts of course. The front sight did take some fitting (in fact, more than I am used to) but shoots POA/POI so I'm happy.
Here's the completed piggy:
<img src="https://image.ibb.co/dO4hVF/IMG_3582.jpg" alt="IMG 3582" border="0" />
Here's the crew from the range:
<img src="https://image.ibb.co/cdC2VF/IMG_3593.jpg" alt="IMG 3593" border="0" />
3 shot groups at 7 yards just to get a baseline of each gun in my hands.
1st, SP-01 since I've been shooting it the most:
<img src="https://image.ibb.co/cBJ9AF/IMG_3589.jpg" alt="IMG 3589" border="0" />
2nd, SP-01 compact:
<img src="https://image.ibb.co/dTm7xv/IMG_3594.jpg" alt="IMG 3594" border="0" />
3rd, P-01:
<img src="https://image.ibb.co/nbCfHv/IMG_3595.jpg" alt="IMG 3595" border="0" />
Worth mentioning, I am much more accustomed to the SP-01 right now. The SP-01 compact is a joy to shoot SAO, and easy to shoot quickly due to the weight of the weapon and the SAO trigger. Either way it was a great day because everything functioned perfect and accuracy was on point. I will stretch out the distance in upcoming range days and get in some drill work.
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Ok, so the SAO conversion went well. The TS safety went on without issue as well. Upgraded the firing pin retaining pin and trigger pin to CGW parts of course. The front sight did take some fitting (in fact, more than I am used to) but shoots POA/POI so I'm happy.
Here's the completed piggy:
(https://image.ibb.co/dO4hVF/IMG_3582.jpg)
Here's the crew from the range:
(https://image.ibb.co/cdC2VF/IMG_3593.jpg)
3 shot groups at 7 yards just to get a baseline of each gun in my hands.
1st, SP-01 since I've been shooting it the most:
(https://image.ibb.co/cBJ9AF/IMG_3589.jpg)
2nd, SP-01 compact:
(https://image.ibb.co/dTm7xv/IMG_3594.jpg)
3rd, P-01:
(https://image.ibb.co/nbCfHv/IMG_3595.jpg)
Worth mentioning, I am much more accustomed to the SP-01 right now. The SP-01 compact is a joy to shoot SAO, and easy to shoot quickly due to the weight of the weapon and the SAO trigger. Either way it was a great day because everything functioned perfect and accuracy was on point. I will stretch out the distance in upcoming range days and get in some drill work.
Let me help you there :P Can you comment on carrying the P-01 vs SP-01 Comapct since you have both? Any difference in shooting?
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Dragon,
Holy crap my photos are huge!!! I'll need to resize them before upload in the future.
I have carried both and don't really notice a difference. That being said, I am a guy that will also carry my SP-01 Tactical and not bat an eye, so I am not the best judge for people who may be bothered by the weight differences in firearms.
The SP-01 Compact definitely has less of a recoil pulse because of it's weight. The SAO is new for me. It doesn't have much take up (seems like half) of my P-01 in single action. I am adjusting to that difference. I stage the triggers on my P-01 and SP-01 Tactical, which I can't really do on this one yet so my shooting is slightly worse than with the others. That being said, double taps were faster and more accurate with the SAO SP-01 Compact. I attribute that to the short pull and short reset. The fiber optic front sight helps a lot with tracking.
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I have one of these. It's marked cz75 compact and has the rail but it's all steel. I think from what I heard they didn't make a lot of these as most have the alloy frame. It's one of the smoothest shooting guns. Lot's of heft so absorbs recoil really well.
Seems like I may have kind of a rare bird as I have never seen these in their catalogs or online.
Anyone with more info would be greatly appreciated.
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Posted this group from a wrist rest today at 25 yards. I've never pulled that off before. These are some stupid accurate little pistols! Wish I could put this in a ransom rest to truly test it. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170703/7b9fb4a000dd440a8131e57f2c160784.jpg)
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That "look" is growing on me. I'm already pricing the triggers/hammers, etc. If I do one, I'll have to do both, to keep them the same. Looks like the cost for upgrading two of them will be about the cost of another pistol.
If the youngest son says he's interested (that'll make these just like his CZ 75 SA that has become his favorite pistol) I guess I'll have to start ordering parts.
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I have one of these. It's marked cz75 compact and has the rail but it's all steel. I think from what I heard they didn't make a lot of these as most have the alloy frame. It's one of the smoothest shooting guns. Lot's of heft so absorbs recoil really well.
Seems like I may have kind of a rare bird as I have never seen these in their catalogs or online.
Anyone with more info would be greatly appreciated.
Start at the beginning of this thread. All the info you need
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Hey scarlett, what do you have done to yours? I'm looking for the most bang for the buck. Thinking of doing an srs kit with a hammer. I already have a sao trigger I'm gonna install.
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Hey scarlett, what do you have done to yours? I'm looking for the most bang for the buck. Thinking of doing an srs kit with a hammer. I already have a sao trigger I'm gonna install.
Before I make any suggestions, what are you looking to do with the pistol and what's most important to you? This will help me give you the best suggestions for the best BFYB. My SAO was pretty purpose built...
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Just a range toy but want reliability as well. I'm not a trigger snob but would like a nice trigger without breaking the bank. Only thing I have right now is the sao trigger.
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Iluvboost,
I really only did the SAO trigger, spacer (since I removed FPB), CGW trigger return spring, floating trigger pin, and polish. I am also not a trigger snob. I can say that my gun's trigger is good, but the single action still has some creep due to using the stock hammer. I could stone the sear and hammer interface to remove some of that, but in all honesty it's pretty darn good how it is now. I'd say that if you want a super light and super crisp trigger pull you'll probably want the race hammer too. If you are like me and think it's pretty darn good without it and only has minor creep then you'd be happy with what you basically already have.
Either way, I'd do the conversion with the trigger and then shoot it and see if you want to do changes.
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Ok, ignore what I said above lol. I decided to take a closer look at my pistol. I found that the creep was also hammer camming. I took my time and carefully stoned my hammer and sear (thank god for YouTube). Now there is seriously no creep and it's awesome. If you are decent at smithing and patient you may get away with not buying the race hammer.
You can see the stoned sear surface:
(https://image.ibb.co/gw9HFF/IMG_3615.jpg)
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Just a range toy but want reliability as well. I'm not a trigger snob but would like a nice trigger without breaking the bank. Only thing I have right now is the sao trigger.
For a Range Toy SAO here's my recommendations.
Remove the Firing Pin Block System. You can find that and all the other tutorials here:
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=85985.0
The parts I'd recommend:
CGW's Floating Trigger Pin (Makes putting everything back together so much easier)
https://cajungunworks.com/product/tr-pin-cgws-exclusive-floating-trigger-pin/
Spacer (takes the place of the lifter arm you'll remove)
https://cajungunworks.com/product/s-spacer-sear-spacer/
CGW's Firing Pin Retaining Pin (a big improvement over the OEM part, it goes in all my CZ's)
https://cajungunworks.com/product/61100-tempered-spring-steel-firing-pin-retaining-pin/
CZ Custom Competition Hammer or the CGW Race Hammer
https://cajungunworks.com/product/10035-dc-production-legal-competition-hammer/
https://cajungunworks.com/product/manual-safety-blue-steel-hammer/
CGW Hammer Pin
https://cajungunworks.com/product/hpin/
Reduced Power Trigger Return Spring
https://cajungunworks.com/product/rp-trs-reduced-power-trigger-return-spring/
Notes:
The Race or Competition Hammers have a huge impact on the trigger pull weight and break of Single Action. No need to get the extended firing pins, lighter firing pin spring, and what not to then get a lighter hammer spring. You'll get a trigger around 2.5 lbs to 3.5 lbs depending on which hammer you go with.
You don't have to get the floating trigger pin... but it is a huge convenience. The Reduced Power Trigger Return Spring is cheap and drops a half pound, but you can same a few bucks with that.
Now... you do have to fit the sear or the safety with those hammers. CGW has an adjustable sear if you don't feel mechanically inclined.
https://cajungunworks.com/product/as-b/
But it is a few bucks, and there are tutorials available (including one on that list of videos). Oh, wait... CGW has a ring hammer that is supposed to be a drop in part. I think the trigger pull is heavier than their Race hammer by a few ounces, but I haven't tested that. It's an option if you want to avoid fitting the sear.
https://cajungunworks.com/product/80006-ring-hammer-only/
I'm out of town, so I have short spurts to get on. Had to write this throughout the day. Let me know if it makes sense and helps or raises more questions.
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Ok, ignore what I said above lol. I decided to take a closer look at my pistol. I found that the creep was also hammer camming. I took my time and carefully stoned my hammer and sear (thank god for YouTube). Now there is seriously no creep and it's awesome. If you are decent at smithing and patient you may get away with not buying the race hammer.
You can see the stoned sear surface:
Nice work! Just be careful on the face of the sear that engages the hammer hooks. Anything beyond polishing and you may see more rapid degradation of the edge, leading to hammer follow. There's fellows on here who have a lot of experience smithing and they recommend just getting the new hammers. Not that what you did is impossible, it's just a lot more prone to problems for the majority of DIY'ers. The CGW and CZC hammers not only have shorter hooks but different geometry as well. CGW hammers are so well manufactured that they have a lifetime warranty. Keep an eye for the wearing on the edge of the sear face as the round count progresses. If I remember reading in some older threads a gent experienced hammer follow after 5k rounds... Might have been 10k... Again, very nice work, way to get after it!
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Scarlett,
Thank you. Yes you are right, I've heard of the same problems you had mentioned. I promise the stoning was minimal and fit was checked throughout. You would honestly be surprised how far a minimal stoning to improve the interfacing and polishing goes in improving the trigger. None the less, I will certainly be watching as you said. Thank you for the warning.
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Oh man, now you guys have me wanting to convert mine over to SAO...
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Scarlett,
Thank you. Yes you are right, I've heard of the same problems you had mentioned. I promise the stoning was minimal and fit was checked throughout. You would honestly be surprised how far a minimal stoning to improve the interfacing and polishing goes in improving the trigger. None the less, I will certainly be watching as you said. Thank you for the warning.
I'm always curious how guys stone their hammer hooks. Can you share a pic of the "stone" you use? How do you get it in such a little spot?
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Yes. I only used a fine polishing stone that I use for my knives. Like I said, I only did minimal with polishing. I'll snap some pics later.
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Well, just ordered a bunch of parts from Cajun Gun Works to convert one of the SP01 Compacts to SAO.
Only part they didn't have was the straight SA trigger.
Tried to order it from CZ Custom but got a message that all the customer passwords had been reset and they'd e-mail me a new one if I used the "reset password" button. Tried that two or three times, waited about 2 or 3 hrs. and got impatient (you know me) so I ordered one from CZ USA instead.
Also ordered another Pre B "style" hammer (in case I decide to upgrade the second SP01 for me - I like the spur hammer and dog gone if it didn't do wonders for the SA trigger pull on my project CZ Compact).
Should get it all together here in a week or so once the parts get here and I get the installed.
Already have a CGW match barrel bushing (used one on my youngest son's CZ 75 SA) and set of Meprolight night sights for the Compact, too. Maybe we ought to shoot it first though. It might not really need the match bushing. My wife's CZ 75 Compact didn't. We'll see. Sounds like an excuse for a range trip early next week.
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Ahhh yeah! Another project pistol from M1A4ME
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Ahhh yeah! Another project pistol from M1A4ME
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It's your fault (sort of). At least your pistol put the idea in my head.
It won't be a copy of yours but it'll be "inspired" by yours.
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Ahhh yeah! Another project pistol from M1A4ME
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It's your fault (sort of). At least your pistol put the idea in my head.
It won't be a copy of yours but it'll be "inspired" by yours.
You're not the first person on this thread to blame me haha. I take it as a compliment... As long as you don't up and send yours to get hard chromed. That's my dream for my CZ's and it pains my soul when I see others get their CZ's done so beautifully...
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No plans to refinish the SP01 Compact.
But I have been thinking about the CZ 75 project Compact. The one with the CZ 85 controls. The plan is to round off the front of the trigger guard to make it more like a Pre B CZ 85. Once I do that the frame has to be refinished. The hard chrome, or even a satin nickel finish would be pretty sharp. Yeah, then it wouldn't really look like a Pre B pistol. The other idea I've wondered about is the new finish that Primary Machine is doing, the black looking finish (I can't remember the name right now but it's way tougher than cerakote or the polycote that came on the Compact.
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Ahhh yeah! Another project pistol from M1A4ME
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It's your fault (sort of). At least your pistol put the idea in my head.
It won't be a copy of yours but it'll be "inspired" by yours.
You're not the first person on this thread to blame me haha. I take it as a compliment... As long as you don't up and send yours to get hard chromed. That's my dream for my CZ's and it pains my soul when I see others get their CZ's done so beautifully...
I talked to Scott at CGW, my SP-01 compact is down there now, I'm going to get the frame, slide, barrel black nitrided, when those parts get back he'll call, but we've a few things penciled in, I'll have a stainless ring hammer, and a new sear installed, and since I have all the parts for a short reset kit already installed except the lifter arm, I'll have that done as well, then alittle polishing on the trigger bar where needed and that should do it..
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Dang!! Now we have two sweet projects in the pipes. Excited to see how these turn out!
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Hi all, my first post on these forums. Bought an SP-01 compact used a couple of weeks ago... by accident! I was looking for either a PCR or P-01 for the lighter frame. A CZ compact came up advertised locally but I looked at the photo and thought thats a P-01 not a cz compact! I was running late and had to do the purchase quickly, the owner was telling me this is a new CZ on the market.. 'blah blah blah' is all I heard, because i knew this was a P-01, for some reason it felt heavy haha. Got home, wow this is really is heavy... heavier than my 75B, why doesn't it have P-01 on the slide and why does it have a safety! For a second I thought I was ripped off somehow until I saw this thread.
I'm bummed I still don't have a light pistol but excited its such a cool one. Haven't got to shoot it yet and looking forward to see if its going to be a keeper :)
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Hi all, my first post on these forums. Bought an SP-01 compact used a couple of weeks ago... by accident! I was looking for either a PCR or P-01 for the lighter frame. A CZ compact came up advertised locally but I looked at the photo and thought thats a P-01 not a cz compact! I was running late and had to do the purchase quickly, the owner was telling me this is a new CZ on the market.. 'blah blah blah' is all I heard, because i knew this was a P-01, for some reason it felt heavy haha. Got home, wow this is really is heavy... heavier than my 75B, why doesn't it have P-01 on the slide and why does it have a safety! For a second I thought I was ripped off somehow until I saw this thread.
I'm bummed I still don't have a light pistol but excited its such a cool one. Haven't got to shoot it yet and looking forward to see if its going to be a keeper :)
Haha that's funny stuff. Sorry you didn't get the alloy frame version you were looking for... It's a long thread with lots of good info buried in there. Let us know of you have any questions or need any help.
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Thanks so much Scarlett! I have already read a lot of this thread and a lot of your posts. I'm very impressed with the work you have put into your videos as well on this pistol. And from the look of it we both live in SLC :)
There is definitely a lot of info!
Just from dry firing I have realized the trigger is not as good as my stock 75B which I bought new.
Do you have any advice of what I would need to do just to get it to the same as a stock 75B? Nothing special.
When I say its not as good, in single Action, when the trigger hits the wall, the trigger creeps until it breaks. When comparing them side by side, I can see the hammer, move back a little before it breaks on the SP01 compared to the 75B. Hope Im clear on that.
Hi all, my first post on these forums. Bought an SP-01 compact used a couple of weeks ago... by accident! I was looking for either a PCR or P-01 for the lighter frame. A CZ compact came up advertised locally but I looked at the photo and thought thats a P-01 not a cz compact! I was running late and had to do the purchase quickly, the owner was telling me this is a new CZ on the market.. 'blah blah blah' is all I heard, because i knew this was a P-01, for some reason it felt heavy haha. Got home, wow this is really is heavy... heavier than my 75B, why doesn't it have P-01 on the slide and why does it have a safety! For a second I thought I was ripped off somehow until I saw this thread.
I'm bummed I still don't have a light pistol but excited its such a cool one. Haven't got to shoot it yet and looking forward to see if its going to be a keeper :)
Haha that's funny stuff. Sorry you didn't get the alloy frame version you were looking for... It's a long thread with lots of good info buried in there. Let us know of you have any questions or need any help.
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Thanks so much Scarlett! I have already read a lot of this thread and a lot of your posts. I'm very impressed with the work you have put into your videos as well on this pistol. And from the look of it we both live in SLC :)
There is definitely a lot of info!
Just from dry firing I have realized the trigger is not as good as my stock 75B which I bought new.
Do you have any advice of what I would need to do just to get it to the same as a stock 75B? Nothing special.
When I say its not as good, in single Action, when the trigger hits the wall, the trigger creeps until it breaks. When comparing them side by side, I can see the hammer, move back a little before it breaks on the SP01 compared to the 75B. Hope Im clear on that.
Hi all, my first post on these forums. Bought an SP-01 compact used a couple of weeks ago... by accident! I was looking for either a PCR or P-01 for the lighter frame. A CZ compact came up advertised locally but I looked at the photo and thought thats a P-01 not a cz compact! I was running late and had to do the purchase quickly, the owner was telling me this is a new CZ on the market.. 'blah blah blah' is all I heard, because i knew this was a P-01, for some reason it felt heavy haha. Got home, wow this is really is heavy... heavier than my 75B, why doesn't it have P-01 on the slide and why does it have a safety! For a second I thought I was ripped off somehow until I saw this thread.
I'm bummed I still don't have a light pistol but excited its such a cool one. Haven't got to shoot it yet and looking forward to see if its going to be a keeper :)
Haha that's funny stuff. Sorry you didn't get the alloy frame version you were looking for... It's a long thread with lots of good info buried in there. Let us know of you have any questions or need any help.
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Hahahaha I was literally messaging the guy you bought it from and couldn't get to pick it up till Tuesday and he sold it before I got back. In this case I'll shoot ya a message and we can solve quicker.
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Ordered my SAO trigger yesterday.... you guys are a bad influence..
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Just installed the SAO, TS safety and Cajun sights.
Ready for steel challenge:
(http://www.hverovhe.com/SP01-1.JPG)
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Just installed the SAO, TS safety and Cajun sights.
Ready for steel challenge:
(http://www.hverovhe.com/SP01-1.JPG)
Looks fantastic, very nice work!
If the way the safety hangs down and over the lip on the frame, it's an easy mod.
I used a blade to make a little mark on the edges of safety where the lip is. (don't use a blade if you don't have steady hands)
Then pull it out and use a ruler or something straight and line it up on the back of the safety with the two marks you made. Use a fine tip permanent marker and draw a line. This is the line marking where you want to remove material to. I.e. you remove material under that line.
Then use a file, belt sander, or sand paper on a flat surface and go to work. I rounded the back corner of mine... Just playing with looks, no real purpose.
Keep some grease on the surface so it doesn't rust. Or you can find a way to cost it if you have to tools... I'm in a dry climate so I check mine but it doesn't need as much attention.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170728/b79acb3c37b05ac7ce8821edef4abb2f.jpg)
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I replaced the factory hammer with one of the CGW "race" hammers today.
This is a picture of the factory hammer/hooks. The shiny area was around the hook area on both sides of the hammer. Looked like it was "worked on" after it the surface finish was completed. No idea why.
(http://i.imgur.com/71TVsmZl.jpg)
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I replaced the factory hammer with one of the CGW "race" hammers today.
This is a picture of the factory hammer/hooks. The shiny area was around the hook area on both sides of the hammer. Looked like it was "worked on" after it the surface finish was completed. No idea why.
(http://i.imgur.com/71TVsmZl.jpg)
I've seen that on a few I worked on... But they weren't smooth SA triggers, so I have no idea what the deal is.
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This one wasn't "smooth" either. 5.5 lbs. of draggy rough trigger movement to drop the hammer.
It's better now.
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Like what happened to several other people, reading this near-world-record thread pushed me over the edge on purchasing a 99021 a month ago.
Not sure if I should thank or blame the OP for this, but I'm going to go with "thank" because I've really enjoyed shooting mine, even if it is (still) completely stock. Whether I eventually have it Cajunized, fiddle with it myself, or leave it as-is remains to be seen. What does NOT remain to be seen is whether that purchase will cause me to acquire any more CZ products, which I can neither confirm nor deny having done at this point. ;)
I knew that the 99021 was special due to its all-steel construction and being a non-catalogue item, but I keep procrastinating on the purchase because I really didn't need another gun (yes, I know that's a fallacy, but avoiding more acquisitions of this type of item is like trying to lose weight). I saw these slowly go out of stock at Bud's and other web sites a few months ago, so figured they were gone and thus I would be "safe". Then (about a month ago) I happened to notice that K-Var still had them in stock, when nobody else did anymore. So I got one and really like it so far. About a week after I got mine, K-Var finally showed out of stock, so I lucked out.
That's my story - so far.
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Like what happened to several other people, reading this near-world-record thread pushed me over the edge on purchasing a 99021 a month ago.
Not sure if I should thank or blame the OP for this, but I'm going to go with "thank" because I've really enjoyed shooting mine, even if it is (still) completely stock. Whether I eventually have it Cajunized, fiddle with it myself, or leave it as-is remains to be seen. What does NOT remain to be seen is whether that purchase will cause me to acquire any more CZ products, which I can neither confirm nor deny having done at this point. ;)
I knew that the 99021 was special due to its all-steel construction and being a non-catalogue item, but I keep procrastinating on the purchase because I really didn't need another gun (yes, I know that's a fallacy, but avoiding more acquisitions of this type of item is like trying to lose weight). I saw these slowly go out of stock at Bud's and other web sites a few months ago, so figured they were gone and thus I would be "safe". Then (about a month ago) I happened to notice that K-Var still had them in stock, when nobody else did anymore. So I got one and really like it so far. About a week after I got mine, K-Var finally showed out of stock, so I lucked out.
That's my story - so far.
Good call on snagging one from K-Var! Im glad your enjoying it, lol because I'm sure I'd be getting? the blame one way or the other. You can even blame me if you cajunize it, even a little. Welcome aboard to the CZ realm and always feel free to ask questions, that's what we're here for.
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Like what happened to several other people, reading this near-world-record thread pushed me over the edge on purchasing a 99021 a month ago.
Not sure if I should thank or blame the OP for this, but I'm going to go with "thank" because I've really enjoyed shooting mine, even if it is (still) completely stock. Whether I eventually have it Cajunized, fiddle with it myself, or leave it as-is remains to be seen. What does NOT remain to be seen is whether that purchase will cause me to acquire any more CZ products, which I can neither confirm nor deny having done at this point. ;)
I knew that the 99021 was special due to its all-steel construction and being a non-catalogue item, but I keep procrastinating on the purchase because I really didn't need another gun (yes, I know that's a fallacy, but avoiding more acquisitions of this type of item is like trying to lose weight). I saw these slowly go out of stock at Bud's and other web sites a few months ago, so figured they were gone and thus I would be "safe". Then (about a month ago) I happened to notice that K-Var still had them in stock, when nobody else did anymore. So I got one and really like it so far. About a week after I got mine, K-Var finally showed out of stock, so I lucked out.
That's my story - so far.
Your reasons for buying are very close to mine, except I'm a sucker for oddites like these. Last week it happened again, I traded a g19 for a NIB HK USPcompact even up. This too is a oddity, as it was also made for a contract for some enity who, for some reason did'nt take delievery. Pistol is odd in as much as it has a LEM trigger with ambi saftey levers. It was definitely made for the Euro market as it came with a serial numbered factory test target, something U.S. bound HK's don't come with. (whoever shot the target was no slouch either, 5rnds into 1 1/2" at 15meters) I wish I could shoot that well. Anyway, I love odd ball pistols like this. I can't wait for my SP-01 compact to get back from CGW. Reading this thread, it seems that they take to mods well. One thing I really wish CZ would change, is the beavertail on the rest of the compacts so that they were upswept like the SP-01 compact's are, they feel so much better, you can get a much better grip, everyone who I let shoot it commented on that.
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So all my Cajun goodness showed up today... just waiting on my trigger to show up now....
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Good news for me today as last night I got a call from CGW, my frame, barrel, and slide, got back from getting black ntirided. According to Mike at CGW, they were impressed with how the parts turned out, They wanted to know if there was anything else I wanted to do before they reassembled my pistol, and I told them yes there was. I'm going to get a stainless ring hammer and a new sear, and since I already had everything in the short reset kit installed, except the short lifter arm, to go ahead and install that too, and finally polish everything, and we should be good to go, with a little luck, I should have it back next week.
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Congratulations, thats going to be one awesome looking and feeling pistol!
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So this has been a little ongoing story in other threads, and I blame this partly on those threads and members. I'm going up into bear country and can't open carry for a good deal of the places, so I am selling my 12 gauge and got a 10mm. Got the closest thing to a CZ I could.
Why share here? Because I couldn't help but get the grips to match my little girls future pistol.... Here they are together, my SP-01 Compact and Witness Hunter. They both are accurate as can be and wonderful to shoot! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170803/6d8db6b7415cb6b2b95086a47bf90c5d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170803/4eeaf2f520f0cd1c23ba0cf7c0395c7e.jpg)
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Sweet looking combo!
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So this has been a little ongoing story in other threads, and I blame this partly on those threads and members. I'm going up into bear country and can't open carry for a good deal of the places, so I am selling my 12 gauge and got a 10mm. Got the closest thing to a CZ I could.
Why share here? Because I couldn't help but get the grips to match my little girls future pistol.... Here they are together, my SP-01 Compact and Witness Hunter. They both are accurate as can be and wonderful to shoot! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170803/6d8db6b7415cb6b2b95086a47bf90c5d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170803/4eeaf2f520f0cd1c23ba0cf7c0395c7e.jpg)
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"Bear country"- right! We all know you are going to shoot that hand-cannon at your next USPSA match! ;D
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So this has been a little ongoing story in other threads, and I blame this partly on those threads and members. I'm going up into bear country and can't open carry for a good deal of the places, so I am selling my 12 gauge and got a 10mm. Got the closest thing to a CZ I could.
Why share here? Because I couldn't help but get the grips to match my little girls future pistol.... Here they are together, my SP-01 Compact and Witness Hunter. They both are accurate as can be and wonderful to shoot! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170803/6d8db6b7415cb6b2b95086a47bf90c5d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170803/4eeaf2f520f0cd1c23ba0cf7c0395c7e.jpg)
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"Bear country"- right! We all know you are going to shoot that hand-cannon at your next USPSA match! ;D
Haha I'll video the day that happens. But I wouldn't think twice about running that little SP-01 Compact in a match against full sized pistols. I just need a holster... Maybe I'll get one next month and do just that.
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I keep resisting, but -
those red red grips are really .... "gripping" me.
I might have to break down and get them.
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Scarlett - are you running the stock rear sights with the FO front? The one thing I don't like about this pistol is the stock sight setup
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Scarlett - are you running the stock rear sights with the FO front? The one thing I don't like about this pistol is the stock sight setup
I am. I agree the stock front sight is terrible. The rear sight dots are so weak that I don't mind them. I like a blacked out rear though. If you want brighter dots you cold drop white paint into the holes in the rear sight. I actually really like the stock rear sights for their shape. No real sharp edges, has a front ledge (not that I am that tactical, but it's nice to have) and mine have been tough. But I realize I am probably in the minority.
My POI has shifted up a little from the CGW Bushings on 2 of my pistols with them. So if you put that in, you may want to order a front sight after you see if the POI changes. CGW or the members here know how to figure out the front sight height to adjust for a change in POI.
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Scarlett - are you running the stock rear sights with the FO front? The one thing I don't like about this pistol is the stock sight setup
I am. I agree the stock front sight is terrible. The rear sight dots are so weak that I don't mind them. I like a blacked out rear though. If you want brighter dots you cold drop white paint into the holes in the rear sight. I actually really like the stock rear sights for their shape. No real sharp edges, has a front ledge (not that I am that tactical, but it's nice to have) and mine have been tough. But I realize I am probably in the minority.
My POI has shifted up a little from the CGW Bushings on 2 of my pistols with them. So if you put that in, you may want to order a front sight after you see if the POI changes. CGW or the members here know how to figure out the front sight height to adjust for a change in POI.
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Interesting.... I posted in the SP-01 section that my POI changed after installing the 10x bushing and the feedback I got was that my red dot must have moved....
Thanks for the sight info. Not going to be a carry gun for me so I'll probably change out the rear but will start with just the front and go from there.
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Got another call from CGW today, my pistol was completed, and being shipped!!! And this came as a little suprise, David told me that the control levers were also black nitrided! Slide stop, and saftey levers plus the mag release. I was'nt expecting that, as I thought they may have been too small. The DA trigger pull if I remember correctly is now 7.1 lbs and the SA trigger pull is I believe 3.4-3.5 I'm not sure, but it should be great..I can't wait to get this back and start shooting it.
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That's gonna be a sweet shooter!
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I picked up one of these little gems from a guy that needed cash the other day CZ 75 Compact w/rail (99021).
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I picked a 99021 up about a month ago. Ran 100rds through it this weekend. No issues what so ever. Gun shot very accurately as well. Putting some LOK grips on this week and back in the nightstand it goes.
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Does anyone know what the final production number of this model was? I heard it was 500 but I think the made another run of them. Thanks in advance.
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Does anyone know what the final production number of this model was? I heard it was 500 but I think the made another run of them. Thanks in advance.
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The initial batch they brought in was 500. Then they brought in the rest of them, which we think were 1500 or 1600.
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Does anyone know what the final production number of this model was? I heard it was 500 but I think the made another run of them. Thanks in advance.
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The initial batch they brought in was 500. Then they brought in the rest of them, which we think were 1500 or 1600.
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Another reason I will never part with mine.
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So thanks to Scarlett mine is no totally disassembled with the internals being delivered today for their clean up and polish.
Going back together in SAO format once he is done with them ;D
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Haha I hope that's a good thing.
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The long awaited day finally came today, my pistol came back from Cajun Gun Works. The black nitriding looks great! The folks who did this really, and I mean really, know what their doing, the fact that they were able to do all the controls as well, speaks for their level of skill. The hang tag on the pistol says that the DA trigger pull is 7lbs, 10oz the SA trigger pull is 3lbs 14oz. I'm impressed. I took it and a my HK USP compact(LEM gun) that I got in a trade a couple of weeks ago, and went to the range. I set up a IDPA target at about 10-12 yds and another more shot up target to which I stapled some targets I printed up from pistol- forum.com at 7yds. The first round from the CZ resulted in a failure to eject, I racked the slide shot the next round and got a failure to feed. I cleared that, and those were to only malfunctions I had the rest of the day, I'm guessing the pistol needed to sort itself out, which it did, because it ran like a raped ape the rest of the day. I should mention I also has a few failures to fire, I'm thinking this may be ammo related, as the ammo I was using was my loads and I've been using small rifle primers, as I ran out of small pistol primers, awhile back, and small rifle primers will work as a substitute, reduce your charge, and work back up, However, they are harder, this is a good test for a gun with lighter hammer/striker springs. I would also note that the USP did'nt have a single problem shooting this same ammo, Anyway, the worse that could happen is, I'll end up putting a 15lb hammer spring in..
The more I shot these pistols today, the better they got, the CZ is a tack driver and the USP is no slouch either, I could'nt put the CZ down, I have Dawson sights on it with a FO front, and it was like shooting with a red dot, put the dot on the target and squeeze the trigger and a hole appears..right where you wanted it, After a little warm up, I ran a little drill where I'd put two rounds on the 7yd target, and then two in the center, and two in the head of the farther out IDPA target, I was suprised how easy head shots were at that distance, the reset after the DA trigger, is wonderful, one could rip off two rounds starting from DA, quickly, and easily. It was rather easy to keep rounds on either target. Very happy with the SP-01compact, after a trip to Cajun Gun Works it came back and it's like it's been reborn, everything is better. The crummy polycoat is gone, and replaced with black nitride, which will make it very difficult for rust to form on it, probably the most durable finish you can buy. The trigger is way better, and the short reset is, well, darn short, and very useable. This is one pistol that's not going anywhere. I'd post pics but I don't know how, Today was one of the best days I've had shooting in awhile, both pistols shot very,very accurately, right now I would'nt part with either one.
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Scarlett - I'm hoping it's going to be a great thing!
Bad - sounds like money well spent! Enjoy shooting that little beast!
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I shot my dads last weekend and was lucky enough to find on from a private seller in Dallas. I got it on Wednesday and I am dying to go to the range.
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I shot my dads last weekend and was lucky enough to find on from a private seller in Dallas. I got it on Wednesday and I am dying to go to the range.
That is some good luck. Not a ton floating around right now. Let us know how you like it and if you do any upgrades or have any questions this novel of a thread doesn't answer.
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I shot my dads last weekend and was lucky enough to find on from a private seller in Dallas. I got it on Wednesday and I am dying to go to the range.
Good taste in the new gun. Then again, I'll take credit for bringing you up right! LOL
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And the SAO conversion is complete. Well waiting on loctite to dry before test firing. Will probably trade grips out since the oranges clash.
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And the SAO conversion is complete. Well waiting on loctite to dry before test firing. Will probably trade grips out since the oranges clash.
Is that the standard safety? Looks a little different (more shelf/thumb area) than the super flat one. Could be the pic, but I figured I would ask.
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And the SAO conversion is complete. Well waiting on loctite to dry before test firing. Will probably trade grips out since the oranges clash.
Is that the standard safety? Looks a little different (more shelf/thumb area) than the super flat one. Could be the pic, but I figured I would ask.
It's the standard one. I ordered and tried to install the TS version but for some reason it wouldn't mate up to the right hand side. Something I did I'm sure but I was several hours deep into this thing already...
Which brings me to a big ol' shout out to Scarlett. Without his videos this never would have happened!!!
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Few pulls on the gauge before going out. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170812/0b5ac0d0cdd38c0c3b7077e57e182472.jpg)
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And the SAO conversion is complete. Well waiting on loctite to dry before test firing. Will probably trade grips out since the oranges clash.
Is that the standard safety? Looks a little different (more shelf/thumb area) than the super flat one. Could be the pic, but I figured I would ask.
It's the standard one. I ordered and tried to install the TS version but for some reason it wouldn't mate up to the right hand side. Something I did I'm sure but I was several hours deep into this thing already...
Which brings me to a big ol' shout out to Scarlett. Without his videos this never would have happened!!!
Did you check to see if the left side safety shaft would fit into the right side safety prior to installing them? I had to stone down the flat on mine to get it to fit. Better to do that first, before trying to install them in the gun. Be careful when doing so, to insure the end up "level" side to side.
Even though mine fit outside the gun (after stoning) it was still kind of "tight" when trying to get the "D" shaped end on the shaft of the left side safety to pass into the right side safety. An alignment issue. That took care of itself after 3 or 4 installs and removals (while I was trouble shooting a no fire issue).
Good luck with it. Sometimes working on your own can be aggravating but you learn from it and know the pistol better afterwards.
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M1A - I did check outside the gun after the first try and yep, they wouldn't mate up. I'll probably go back at some point and fit them but by this point I was just ready to get this thing going.
50 rounds and man it was fun shooting. I did have a few light strikes so I may have to go to a 11# spring. I'll give it a few more rounds before doing so though.
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And the SAO conversion is complete. Well waiting on loctite to dry before test firing. Will probably trade grips out since the oranges clash.
Is that the standard safety? Looks a little different (more shelf/thumb area) than the super flat one. Could be the pic, but I figured I would ask.
It's the standard one. I ordered and tried to install the TS version but for some reason it wouldn't mate up to the right hand side. Something I did I'm sure but I was several hours deep into this thing already...
Which brings me to a big ol' shout out to Scarlett. Without his videos this never would have happened!!!
Super glad the videos helped and it turned out well. I like the new slide release you put on there. And... That trigger is sweet! What one is it? Not to mention the awesome pull weight. What goods did you end up installing to get that down to 2lbs? And what work did you do?
Here's a thread abut the Tactical Sport safety in these pistols. On the second or third page there is a video explaining how to fit the safety, it's pretty easy and quick.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=84002.0
And I meant to add a thanks to M1A4ME in chiming in. He's ran into his fair share of little poop storms when doing smithing on CZ's. He has always been willing to post for help, take suggestions, and share what he finds works. The forum is full of members like him, so that is to all of you as well. There's no reason, but kindness, ya'll get on here and share so much knowledge, and it's helped me beyond measure. I am still learning constantly from members like M1A4ME!
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M1A - I did check outside the gun after the first try and yep, they wouldn't mate up. I'll probably go back at some point and fit them but by this point I was just ready to get this thing going.
50 rounds and man it was fun shooting. I did have a few light strikes so I may have to go to a 11# spring. I'll give it a few more rounds before doing so though.
sending you a PM on this.
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Scarlett - The trigger is from Armory Craft. Would have liked a straight one but he didn't have those in stock and I didn't feel like waiting until they were. Other than that it's an 8.5# hammer spring, extended firing pin, adjustable sear, and spacer to eliminate the FPB. The slide release is the SP-01 version. I took all the internals to a guy at work who polished everything up for me (he's a machinist by trade/training and a gun nut to boot )
Thanks for the link to the safety adjustment. I'll be doing that one for sure.
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Scarlett - The trigger is from Armory Craft. Would have liked a straight one but he didn't have those in stock and I didn't feel like waiting until they were. Other than that it's an 8.5# hammer spring, extended firing pin, adjustable sear, and spacer to eliminate the FPB. The slide release is the SP-01 version. I took all the internals to a guy at work who polished everything up for me (he's a machinist by trade/training and a gun nut to boot )
Thanks for the link to the safety adjustment. I'll be doing that one for sure.
You're welcome! I hadn't heard of the shop and looked them up... They have a red flat trigger to match my red grips!!! God bless you!
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Scarlett or possibly someone else, please enlighten me.
If these frames are basically a railed standard compact, shouldn't we be able to fit the standard compact safety? (I'm probably totally off base, but it won't be the first time :)) I just can not wrap my head around the "tactical" one, even if it has been rounded off.
There has to be a better way to build this mousetrap.
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I'm still sad I didn't get one :(
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I'm still sad I didn't get one :(
There is one for sale on the boards right now....
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I have not measured the frames myself but I read here that the frame on these steel framed "SP01" Compacts is wider than a CZ 75 Compact frame.
I do know I ordered the Tactical Sport safeties for mine and they were exactly the right width.
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Scarlett or possibly someone else, please enlighten me.
If these frames are basically a railed standard compact, shouldn't we be able to fit the standard compact safety? (I'm probably totally off base, but it won't be the first time :)) I just can not wrap my head around the "tactical" one, even if it has been rounded off.
There has to be a better way to build this mousetrap.
No problem. So these have a wider frame, like the P-01. This requires a few aspects of the safety bar to be shifted right to compensate. You could use a standard safety but more points would have to be fitted. A member did this (mostly by misunderstanding and then he had the smarts on how to figure it out) but I didn't bookmark the thread.
Here's a thread (all pages) that has info on what's going on. It should have a good explanation.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=84002.0
Are you just wanting the look of the classic safety? Or you want a total understanding of what is happening mechanically? I can post a little video showing the differences in the frames and how that changes things if that would help.
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I'm still sad I didn't get one :(
There is one for sale on the boards right now....
Way too expensive, and I don't want an SAO.
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The video would be cool.
So, please bear with me for another minute....... are these frames unique in size and thickness, or is it actually the same width as the SP-01 only in compact size? And to that point, if it is the same as the SP-01, is the safety the same on that pistol? (I don't have one nor have held one).
Oh, and to answer your question SP, I do want an understanding of the mechanics, but yes, I also just want a pistol with a "normal" factory safety.
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Scarlett - The trigger is from Armory Craft. Would have liked a straight one but he didn't have those in stock and I didn't feel like waiting until they were. Other than that it's an 8.5# hammer spring, extended firing pin, adjustable sear, and spacer to eliminate the FPB. The slide release is the SP-01 version. I took all the internals to a guy at work who polished everything up for me (he's a machinist by trade/training and a gun nut to boot )
Thanks for the link to the safety adjustment. I'll be doing that one for sure.
You're welcome! I hadn't heard of the shop and looked them up... They have a red flat trigger to match my red grips!!! God bless you!
:D Awesome, that will look great
Slver - the SAO can be undone.... the expensive maybe not :(
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The video would be cool.
So, please bear with me for another minute....... are these frames unique in size and thickness, or is it actually the same width as the SP-01 only in compact size? And to that point, if it is the same as the SP-01, is the safety the same on that pistol? (I don't have one nor have held one).
Oh, and to answer your question SP, I do want an understanding of the mechanics, but yes, I also just want a pistol with a "normal" factory safety.
Let me know if that answers your questions.
https://youtu.be/eebntVPgj6Q
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Wow, that video really tells the story. So they truly are unique pistols. I guess that is both good and bad.
What is really insane is that when viewing the 2 frames from a top view, take a look at just how different the safety levers are. Typical safety vs this flat piece of metal that they call a safety lever.
I would love to have a conversation with whomever had the final approval of this safety, to find out what he could possibly be thinking.
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jh225,
That's the reason I switched mine out for the Tactical Sport safety levers. It only required minor fitting of the end of the left lever to go into the D slot of the right lever. I will say this to anyone changing levers, just remember that when checking safety engagement, you want to cock the hammer back. CZ75s aren't designed to have the safety engaged with the hammer down, you'll end up with a safety that will allow sear movement in the cocked position if you do it.
My SP-01 compact has become my wife's gun because she loves the SAO trigger and weight of the gun (ie low recoil). I added some HB Ind torque screws to the grips and the gun is now in its final configuration. I'm hoping the wife will have it over 1k rounds by October but she doesn't come to the range with me every time.
Pic for fun:
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I spoke with David at CGW yesterday about this pistol and I'm going to have them do a full Pro Kit, the tactical safety (have them shape/blend it), sights and a 10X bushing. Going to leave the right side factory safety as I don't like ambi's and the flat factory safety actually helps in this case. I wanted to make it a single side safety, but he said it was a no go. If it comes out anywhere near the quality of my CGW PCR, I will be thrilled.
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jh225,
Well brother, you went all in. The only CGW parts on this gun are the trigger return spring, floating trigger pin, and firing pin retaining pin (every CZ of mine gets those Cajun parts). Oh, and the SAO trigger. Yours should be amazing when done.
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Well, that's because I am spoiled by my PCR. They did an amazing job on it, especially the trigger. I am used to amazing triggers from owning many high end 1911's and this will hold it's own with them. David is also a 1911 fan, so that's why he get's these CZ's so sweet. It's only money. :)
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Just back from a range trip and I'm telling you, turning this thing into SAO was the best thing ever. Still had a few FTF due to light strikes so I may have to go to a 11.5# spring, or maybe I'll just deal with them (probably 5 total out of 150 rounds)
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7 yards, find dot, pull trigger.
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Pull weight after changing to 11.5# spring
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7 yards, find dot, pull trigger.
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Pull weight after changing to 11.5# spring
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Whew that's looking great! Let us know if you try that mod for reliability with the 11 lb main spring.
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Quick trip to the range at lunch netted 100 rounds without a single FTF, or any other issue.
Going to keep the 11.5# spring in for now.
Still :D every time I shoot this gun!
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Still :D every time I shoot this gun!
I've got a couple of cars I feel that way about. Every day I'd leave work and head out on the parking lot I'd get a big grin on my face when I saw my car. I knew it was going to be fun ride home.
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I need better cars....
Pic with the new clothes on.
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I need better cars....
Pic with the new clothes on.
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Dang, looking good! Glad you shared where'd to get those triggers!
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So I just sold one of my ARs and I am stuck between having my SP01 compact worked on or spending the money on a p10c.
If I do get the CGW love for my SP01c I'd would be for both CCW and IDPA use (the p10c would be idpa and the SP01c would stay CCW if I went the other route).
I would want my pistol to still be able to shoot whatever I put through it, and still stay in an IDPA class that won't put me up against guns that are moded to hell and back.
What do y'all suggest?
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Since you would use your SP-01C for IDPA and CCW if you got it Cajunized I would say so that. Then it would be totally awesome for both purposes.
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Since you would use your SP-01C for IDPA and CCW if you got it Cajunized I would say so that. Then it would be totally awesome for both purposes.
I think that's going to be the way I go. I've hated every striker gun I've ever owned . I just emailed them to see which package they suggest.
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Since you would use your SP-01C for IDPA and CCW if you got it Cajunized I would say so that. Then it would be totally awesome for both purposes.
I think that's going to be the way I go. I've hated every striker gun I've ever owned . I just emailed them to see which package they suggest.
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No need to pass up on Cajun goodness to try and start now. Plus... You can always get a P10c later once this is completed.
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Can someone please verify the barrel diam. on their 99021. I was going to order a CGW bushing but on their site they have a note on the 7510xhc that its for all SP-O1's and also the 99021. That is the same bushing as the 7510X only hard chromed. The 7510x is listed as for heavy .550" OD and my 99021 does not have a heavy barrel. It's .503 and appears to be identical to the barrel in my p-01 omega. I'm hoping that its a miss print on cgw description for the 7510xhc or else I didn't get a 99021.... The box label ends in 99021 and the serial # on the label, test print, frame and barrel all match.
Where am I going wrong here??
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Can someone please verify the barrel diam. on their 99021. I was going to order a CGW bushing but on their site they have a note on the 7510xhc that its for all SP-O1's and also the 99021. That is the same bushing as the 7510X only hard chromed. The 7510x is listed as for heavy .550" OD and my 99021 does not have a heavy barrel. It's .503 and appears to be identical to the barrel in my p-01 omega. I'm hoping that its a miss print on cgw description for the 7510xhc or else I didn't get a 99021.... The box label ends in 99021 and the serial # on the label, test print, frame and barrel all match.
Where am I going wrong here??
Mine do not have a heavy barrel. Maybe David has some hard chrome versions for these 99021 pistols, but call and check if that is what you're looking for. Otherwise get the bushing for the standard size barrel.
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Can someone please verify the barrel diam. on their 99021. I was going to order a CGW bushing but on their site they have a note on the 7510xhc that its for all SP-O1's and also the 99021. That is the same bushing as the 7510X only hard chromed. The 7510x is listed as for heavy .550" OD and my 99021 does not have a heavy barrel. It's .503 and appears to be identical to the barrel in my p-01 omega. I'm hoping that its a miss print on cgw description for the 7510xhc or else I didn't get a 99021.... The box label ends in 99021 and the serial # on the label, test print, frame and barrel all match.
Where am I going wrong here??
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Just out of curiosity, what is the ID of the bushing that's presently in the slide? I measured the bushing ID, and the barrel OD in mine and the difference was .003, when it was at CGW for some work I asked about putting a bushing in, and David told me that mine actually had a pretty decent barrel/bushing fit, and I probably would'nt gain anything with their bushing, his advice was to shoot it until the groups opened up and then put the bushing in.. If your bushing is .003-4 bigger than the barrel, I don't think I'd bother putting a bushing in for awhile.. On the flip side if the bushing is say, .005 or more larger than the barrel, yeah, I'd go for the bushing..
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I didn't even measure it. With the slide in a vice I could wiggle the barrel like an old Atari joystick. It's worse than my TS when it was new and if I remember correctly it was something like .007-.013. I thought I had wasted a lot of money but a new bushing saved me from some serious buyers remorse on that deal. The test pattern dispersion on this compact was 108 and after shooting about 300 rounds I think that may have just been luck. I seem to get the ones that went thru final assembly and fitment on a Friday late afternoon... Its nothing a little Cajun spice hasn't been able to fix.
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http://www.gunshack.com/cz-usa-75-d-compact-new-in-stock-rail?manufacturer_id=98 (http://www.gunshack.com/cz-usa-75-d-compact-new-in-stock-rail?manufacturer_id=98)
Rare batch for sale.
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Another giggle inducing trip to the range at lunch today. Had to make it a quickie so it was just 100 rds at various yardages but this thing is just too fun to shoot to be legal...
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http://www.gunshack.com/cz-usa-75-d-compact-new-in-stock-rail?manufacturer_id=98 (http://www.gunshack.com/cz-usa-75-d-compact-new-in-stock-rail?manufacturer_id=98)
Rare batch for sale.
Dang those ones at gunshack are expensive!
Another giggle inducing trip to the range at lunch today. Had to make it a quickie so it was just 100 rds at various yardages but this thing is just too fun to shoot to be legal...
These are a pleasure aren't they! A friend asked me to go shooting with him, his father-in-law, and uncle-in-law this last weekend. When we set up I told them that they needed to dry fire my second SP-01 Compact because it has a very light trigger and is meant to compete with custom 1911's. Of course they were immediately drawn to it and that was their favorite pistol of the day.
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Dang those ones at gunshack are expensive!
Yeah, and I paid for it anyhow. :'(
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Another giggle inducing trip to the range at lunch today. Had to make it a quickie so it was just 100 rds at various yardages but this thing is just too fun to shoot to be legal...
These are a pleasure aren't they! A friend asked me to go shooting with him, his father-in-law, and uncle-in-law this last weekend. When we set up I told them that they needed to dry fire my second SP-01 Compact because it has a very light trigger and is meant to compete with custom 1911's. Of course they were immediately drawn to it and that was their favorite pistol of the day.
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First time I got to shoot mine after adjusting the over travel set screw and it just made things that much better, officially more fun than a barrel of monkeys
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SP-01 Compact Holster Maker!!!!!
I know... this thread probably needed to be laid to rest, but we have a holster maker here on the forum that has an SP-01 Compact. He made me a pretty awesome holster for my two, and he should be able to make any of his holsters for the SP-01 Compact (at least thats my impression, if you ask nicely). He also has a Rami... Anyways, here's my little post on mine. Hopefully this helps some of you with more holster options.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=92720.0
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Question for the experts
Due to this thread: http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=93231.msg711468#msg711468
The P01 gives me hammer bite.
I have the option to trade my Cajun P01 to someone locally for a SP01C and Glock 43 with 5 mags. I would flip the 43 or my current Glock 26 and pickup cajun parts.
Question is would I be stupid?
Do P01 mags fit in the SP01C?
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Question for the experts
Due to this thread: http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=93231.msg711468#msg711468
The P01 gives me hammer bite.
I have the option to trade my Cajun P01 to someone locally for a SP01C and Glock 43 with 5 mags. I would flip the 43 or my current Glock 26 and pickup cajun parts.
Question is would I be stupid?
Do P01 mags fit in the SP01C?
The CZ Custom Competition Hammer will not give you hammer bite in this pistol. You can order a low Competition Hammer if you'd like. The CGW Race hammer may bite you... Probably not though. One of mine has the race hammer and it does hit the beavertail in recoil, but even with your beefy grip I don't think it would bite you.
These are heavy pistols. Think Shadow 2 Compact. I've carried mine, you just have to be OK with it and know what you're getting. You can always get another P-01 and put the CZC Competition hammer in it to eliminate hammer bite. But there's only 1,400 of these floating around and they aren't supposed to make them again.
If you're OK with getting the SP-01 Compact I'd say go for it! Depending on how much you put into the P-01 you're at least reading even and maybe up depending on the wear on the SP-01 Compact and G43.
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Same magazines. CZ 75 Compact, PCR, P01, P01 Omega, "SP01" Compact - all use the same 14 round magazine.
If you want extra rounds the 16 round full size magazines will work in the compacts - but stick out the bottom more. Event he 18/19 round magazines will work - just stick out even more.
Hammer bite? Never had it happen so I never had to try to "fix" it. Sorry.
Those SP01 Compacts are still out there. Saw one at the last gun show I was at.
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Question for the experts
Due to this thread: http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=93231.msg711468#msg711468
The P01 gives me hammer bite.
I have the option to trade my Cajun P01 to someone locally for a SP01C and Glock 43 with 5 mags. I would flip the 43 or my current Glock 26 and pickup cajun parts.
Question is would I be stupid?
Do P01 mags fit in the SP01C?
What are you asking about trade value or will the more up swept beaver tail of the SP-01 compact vs P-01 beaver tail help with your hammer bite problem?
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Question for the experts
Due to this thread: http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=93231.msg711468#msg711468
The P01 gives me hammer bite.
I have the option to trade my Cajun P01 to someone locally for a SP01C and Glock 43 with 5 mags. I would flip the 43 or my current Glock 26 and pickup cajun parts.
Question is would I be stupid?
Do P01 mags fit in the SP01C?
What are you asking about trade value or will the more up swept beaver tail of the SP-01 compact vs P-01 beaver tail help with your hammer bite problem?
Just the trade value, I don't want to clutter up this thread with my fat hands.
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Question for the experts
Due to this thread: http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=93231.msg711468#msg711468
The P01 gives me hammer bite.
I have the option to trade my Cajun P01 to someone locally for a SP01C and Glock 43 with 5 mags. I would flip the 43 or my current Glock 26 and pickup cajun parts.
Question is would I be stupid?
Do P01 mags fit in the SP01C?
What are you asking about trade value or will the more up swept beaver tail of the SP-01 compact vs P-01 beaver tail help with your hammer bite problem?
Just the trade value, I don't want to clutter up this thread with my fat hands.
I looked at your picture again. Then I snagged a quick video clip to show you the hammers on my SP-01 Compacts and classic 75 Compact. Hopefully this gives you reference to see how the beavertail is different and how the Competition hammers are different. They seem to be a solution for you, combined with the SP-01 Compact. Let me know if it helps at all and it any other clips would help.
https://youtu.be/q-oWNWKlAkM
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Question for the experts
Due to this thread: http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=93231.msg711468#msg711468
The P01 gives me hammer bite.
I have the option to trade my Cajun P01 to someone locally for a SP01C and Glock 43 with 5 mags. I would flip the 43 or my current Glock 26 and pickup cajun parts.
Question is would I be stupid?
Do P01 mags fit in the SP01C?
What are you asking about trade value or will the more up swept beaver tail of the SP-01 compact vs P-01 beaver tail help with your hammer bite problem?
Just the trade value, I don't want to clutter up this thread with my fat hands.
I looked at your picture again. Then I snagged a quick video clip to show you the hammers on my SP-01 Compacts and classic 75 Compact. Hopefully this gives you reference to see how the beavertail is different and how the Competition hammers are different. They seem to be a solution for you, combined with the SP-01 Compact. Let me know if it helps at all and it any other clips would help.
https://youtu.be/q-oWNWKlAkM
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Just what I needed to see, thank you!
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Those SP01 Compacts are still out there. Saw one at the last gun show I was at.
Would love to see one in SoCal... :o
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Don't have either of mine anymore.
Gave the unfired in the box pistol to my oldest son (who will probably never shoot it).
Gave the one I'd converted to SAO (and all the original parts) to my youngest son to go along with his CZ75SA. He said he was going to set them side by side, take a picture and call it "big brother and little brother."
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Prepping mine to sell now. You see the one on GB going for $910?
I already have two interested parties, so, no more PMs. I have it sold, just figuring out if interest one comes through, if not interest two is solid.
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Prepping mine to sell now. You see the one on GB going for $910?
I already have two interested parties, so, no more PMs. I have it sold, just figuring out if interest one comes through, if not interest two is solid.
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interest 1 is trying to contact you.
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I'm going to be listing mine on gunbroker.
Heavy beautiful pistol, I went deaf and its a pain going to the range
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Man, I just literally pulled the trigger on a brand new CZ 75 compact. I was looking for a special CZ like yours but it’s too late. How much are you putting it up for on Gunbroker?
I'm going to be listing mine on gunbroker.
Heavy beautiful pistol, I went deaf and its a pain going to the range
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I have 650 in it, so I'm trying to recover at least that after the fees,shipping & whatnot
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I’d like to mount a red dot on this, but I don’t want anything that requires milling. I’m pretty confused about what fits this gun. Looking at a Vortex Venom or Viper. Can someone point me in the right direction? Also, couldn’t figure out how to search this thread, so apologies if this has been answered. Thanks.
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I’d like to mount a red dot on this, but I don’t want anything that requires milling. I’m pretty confused about what fits this gun. Looking at a Vortex Venom or Viper. Can someone point me in the right direction? Also, couldn’t figure out how to search this thread, so apologies if this has been answered. Thanks.
You can get an adapter plate that replaces the rear sight. I have one from EGW on a different type of pistol, and it is working great.
https://www.egwguns.com/viper-venom-cz-75-75-sp-01-phantom-85-p01-p07-p09-and-pcr-sight-mount-fits-burris-fastfire-and-docter is the option for a Venom or Viper. They also have options for RMR/Holosun and Vortex Razor.
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I’d like to mount a red dot on this, but I don’t want anything that requires milling. I’m pretty confused about what fits this gun. Looking at a Vortex Venom or Viper. Can someone point me in the right direction? Also, couldn’t figure out how to search this thread, so apologies if this has been answered. Thanks.
Check out the Springer Precision adapter plates. Nice plates and great customer service. They'll even install the plate for you for $20 if you send them the slide. I had them do that for my CZ97. Only took a week and it came level and good to go with the Vortex Venom I'm using.
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I still have my two that I got for $550.... They're still going for crazy prices on gunbroker. One of them is unfired, the other is my favorite shooter (well, when 9mm drops to under 60 cents a round again :( )
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The more I see what the prices have been on these the happier I am with getting mine. Bought it used for $575 a couple weeks ago but it also already had Dawson Precision sites and CGW grip on it. Just waiting for a nice day to get to actually take it out and shoot it.
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Got mine new in 2016 for 550. Nice pistols. A little heavy to carry but doable. Had a stainless limited full size prior to that. Rather have a stainless so I traded the 99021 for a nice stainless recently. An M&P 2.0 compact is a good replacement for carry as its shape is similar but its much lighter.
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Got mine new in 2016 for 550. Nice pistols. A little heavy to carry but doable. Had a stainless limited full size prior to that. Rather have a stainless so I traded the 99021 for a nice stainless recently. An M&P 2.0 compact is a good replacement for carry as its shape is similar but its much lighter.
P01 omegas have alloy frames that don't weight much more than polymer... Can choose safety or decocker. Much closer in both function and reliability than M&P.
The decocker location on the Omegas is also closer to Sigs if you run those.
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there are some here
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/886987646
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those are the 99041's, not the original (and more rare) 99021's. Basically identical, but don't have the rarity of the 99021's
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FINALLY!!!
P-01 steel frame shows up in official CZUB web site model list
https://www.czub.cz/en/firearms-and-products-product/CZ%2075%20P-01%20STEEL%20BLACK
Official weight is: 1,07kg (75B is 1,00kg ;D)
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FINALLY!!!
P-01 steel frame shows up in official CZUB web site model list
https://www.czub.cz/en/firearms-and-products-product/CZ%2075%20P-01%20STEEL%20BLACK
Official weight is: 1,07kg (75B is 1,00kg ;D)
now they need to make the de-cocker version (mini SP-01 Tactical)
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Did not read all 86 pages....but....the 99021 is the rarest of the two? It’s more desirable than the 99041? I have 5 of the compacts so far...91190, 91194, 91199, 91229, and the 99021...would be interested in the 99041 next...
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Did not read all 84 pages....but....the 99021 is the rarest of the two? It’s more desirable than the 99041? I have 5 of the compacts so far...91190, 91194, 91199, 91229, and the 99021...would be interested in the 99041 next...
Don't forget about the 91198, 91197 and 91299
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91197 is HIGH on my want list....Just too darn expensive...Although I do kind of like the green....
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91197 is HIGH on my want list....Just too darn expensive...Although I do kind of like the green....
Keep your eyes peeled, and sooner or later you’ll find one..I used to have a 99021, and had some custom work done to it.. The single biggest thing wrong with them, is their weight, almost equal that of a full-size 1911. They’re well made and accurate, but, as a EDC, well, let’s say there’s better choices available. As far as rarity goes, I don’t really buy it. If you watch any of the YouTube videos showing CZ manufacturing, CZ uses wax molds to make steel frames, which is very inexpensive for them. So, since they use the same parts as the alloy framed compacts, they can literally whip up a batch of these anytime they want..
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91197 is HIGH on my want list....Just too darn expensive...Although I do kind of like the green....
Agree, love the green version
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As far as rarity goes, I don’t really buy it. If you watch any of the YouTube videos showing CZ manufacturing, CZ uses wax molds to make steel frames, which is very inexpensive for them. So, since they use the same parts as the alloy framed compacts, they can literally whip up a batch of these anytime they want..
Here in Europe it is not rare any more, especially not rare as few years ago. It is official CZUB model now, anyone can get it via dealership network. Decocker P-01 (not Omega) is hard to find and price is the same as steel frame version.
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I've recently been on a CZ spree. I've seen green and all steel p01 for sale and wish I had the cash to buy both... priorities :-\
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What a black 91197 worth these days?
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What a black 91197 worth these days?
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Whatever someone is willing to pay.
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What a black 91197 worth these days?
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List it in auction format on Gun Broker and see what it brings.