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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CLUB CZ97 => Topic started by: DJK11 on May 25, 2018, 12:13:32 PM
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Are there threaded 97 barrels available? I've exhausted web searches. Found some asking the same question a few years back.
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Nope, barrel is too thin for threading.
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Thank you Earl. That's a disappointment.
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Thank you Earl. That's a disappointment.
Yes it it, would love to suppress mine.
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new user here. I registered just to post this. I also have been looking for a threaded barrel for CZ-97. I don't even have the pistol yet, just want a great .45 supressor host and prefer CZ. I found the info below on a reddit CZ thread.
info from there: Bar-Sto Precision Machining will be (hopefully) making a run of CZ-07 TB's later this year. I'm posting here to encourage more folks to contact Bar-Sto and show the market want's this!
https://www.barsto.com/
regards
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new user here. I registered just to post this. I also have been looking for a threaded barrel for CZ-97. I don't even have the pistol yet, just want a great .45 supressor host and prefer CZ. I found the info below on a reddit CZ thread.
info from there: Bar-Sto Precision Machining will be (hopefully) making a run of CZ-07 TB's later this year. I'm posting here to encourage more folks to contact Bar-Sto and show the market want's this!
https://www.barsto.com/
regards
Your best bet would probably be to contact them and ask how many they would need to sell to justify tooling up to make the barrels. Threaded barrels are still a niche market and the CZ97 while a fantastic pistol is just not as common as 9mm CZ's or other pistols. Until I can buy a suppressor as easily as I can buy a cup of coffee I would personally never be interested in one though.
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I?ll take a CZ 97 threaded barrel in 10mm. I?ll do the rest to get it running in a 97. I?d run a compensator on it to prevent frame battering. I have some other ideas but I?ll take that barrel in a heart beat!!! Oh yeah, I?d have to figure out how to get a CZ 97.
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Well, BarSto's answer is the 97 threaded barrels are in preproduction, check back in about 2 months.
Yippee!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm interested in this, too.
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This thread piqued my curiosity, so I sent BarSto and email. Here is their reply:
Bill,
We are moving along on them slowly. We hope to have something done late
this year.Please check back then.
Thank you,
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ok that is greats news ffr1910, I tried calling last week and call went to voice mail. thanks for the update
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Man! I would love to suppress my 97 BD as it is my "nightstand gun". I know if I'm ever forced to fire it in the house, me, the wife & the dog would be deaf!
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I just called, they are gearing up, shooting to start production by end of the year :)
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Awesome, I just got a 97 so this is great timing!
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I spoke with Bar-Sto Precision Machining a few hours ago. They have to finish one production run of a different barrel before the CZ 97 barrels, and they are having trouble producing this other barrel. They said another few weeks are needed. Looking to start production on the CZ 97 barrels January 1, 2019, if all goes well. :D
IIRC, Bar-Sto has done runs of CZ 97 threaded/extended barrels before, so setting up the tooling for them should be straightforward.
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Thanks for the update!!!
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Woo Hoo! 8)
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Great! Thanks for the info. Been wanting a all steel pistol in .45, suppressor ready. The FNX is great, but plastic, the 1911 is good, but too finicky, this might be a game changer and a night stand gun.
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Great news , just picked up my 97bd a few days ago, now to find a comp.
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What will the thread be for a .45 barrel?
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Nice. 8) Unfortunately my 45 suppressor will be in NFA jail for awhile. :'(
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Update:
I talked to BarSto last week. They are finishing run of sig365/320
Barrels then CZ97 is up! The process as described was:
-they will build a run of barrels, crowned, kept in stock
-when order is placed they will thread per customer
The date given was ?about a month? :)
Any tips for fitting a 97 barrel? Possible to do in garage?
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A threaded barrel would be fun to compensate see any changes
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Any of you guys pick one of these threaded barrels up yet?
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Any word on if these are available yet? The 97 would be a nice suppressor host.
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Any word on if these are available yet? The 97 would be a nice suppressor host.
It?d be nice to finally scratch my steel frame suppressed .45 ACP itch without diving into a 1911
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Just got the call, they are taking orders now.. delivery 4-6 wks ;D ;D
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Just got the call, they are taking orders now.. delivery 4-6 wks ;D ;D
Same. Can't even find a picture of suppressed CZ 97 online, much less seen one in person. Pumped! O0
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Just got the call, they are taking orders now.. delivery 4-6 wks ;D ;D
Are they just taking orders over the phone? I don't see any mention of them on their website...
I'm pretty sure I'm going to order one. My only concern is that I have a 97 with the CGW "E" package so I'm not sure if the Bar-sto barrel will play nice with the CGW 1911 type match barrel bushing. I guess I'll ping CGW and see what they say.
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I called today after seeing the posts here. The representative I spoke to said that they were first contacting people who expressed interest, but that they would be up on their website soon. He also said that he expects to have them available this month.
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CursedEvil:
Did you go semifit Or gunsmith match fit? This is my first barrel so I?m going semi and hope for drop in!
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DekNgo: if you talk to CGW could you update here? Someday I will send my 97 in...
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DekNgo: if you talk to CGW could you update here? Someday I will send my 97 in...
Absolutely. I'll post an update as soon as I hear something.
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DekNgo: if you talk to CGW could you update here? Someday I will send my 97 in...
Absolutely. I'll post an update as soon as I hear something.
I heard back from CGW. They said that they couldn't be 100% sure that it will fit, since they haven't seen one of these barrels, but they're pretty sure it will work. When asked if they could fit the barrel, if needed, they said I could send just the barrel and slide to them (i.e. no FFL transfers required).
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These are on the site now.
https://www.barsto.com/category_main.cfm?ID=c97
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Bar Sto threaded barrel. A little fitting needed at the rear. Make sure if fits into bushing.
(https://i.imgur.com/IufSAfj.jpg?2)
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^Very nice!
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Did anyone ever find a good lead on a nice 97 comp? I asked for some quotes but I have yet to see a purpose-built 97 comp.
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This just delivered by USPS.
My first impression is that this is a very high quality threaded barrel. It is machined beautifully with no flaws.
I'll install it later today.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/a3629c75836d3450bcb7f9de231f48a0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/d379628b31fe348c9b707cc953036b95.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/75b85662960768a2a888d96c8a2d96f2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/568dd7d70af34c5b38765be4cd6f307f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/7fa495e3ddd3be25e632b9db6f77d36f.jpg)
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(http://hbindustries.net/store/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/CZ97_HBI_1.jpg)
Build with brick or 2x4? Why not both?
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The threaded barrel fits through the bushing just fine. However, when under spring pressure the slide gets jammed up about a 1/4" before returning to battery. Something is off on the geometry of the barrel and it seems to get hung up in the bushing. Have to figure out what doesn't fit quite correctly.
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(http://hbindustries.net/store/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/CZ97_HBI_1.jpg)
Build with brick or 2x4? Why not both?
Nice! How does it work? You still have the factory barrel bushing, did you have to fit the barrel?
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Finally, got it figured out. The top front lug needed to be fitted so it slipped past the top lip of the slide. Now it works properly. Still have to polish it for smoothness and then test fire it. Swapping back to the plastic spring guide rod made it much easier to install the spring.
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Test shots with the new threaded barrel went very well! Here are the first 20. 10 FMJ (1st shot went high and just left) and 10 hollow points. Pleasantly suprised how well POA and POI matched the existing sight set up!
I am pleased, thank you Barsto.
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Here are the next 20 shots Federal JHP's at 10 yds. All the ammo fed perfectly.
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Looking good fellas. I may finally have to add a 97 to the stable!
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Nice! How does it work? You still have the factory barrel bushing, did you have to fit the barrel?
It runs really well so far, super fun. Accuracy seems fine and the slide moves SO slowly back into battery with suppressors attached, its awesome. Some fitting required but super easy if you have a factory barrel to reference. I ordered the 97bd after the Barsto barrel arrived lol...
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Got mine! Gunsmith will do it next week, then to connect my Osprey.
(https://i.imgur.com/cQ9OnPx.jpg)
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HELP! Can't get pictures to show. Any ideas? When I click the INSERT IMAGE button it posts "" and I insert the imgur link. but no picture shows??
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CZ97 BD with:
Cajun Gun Works in-shop ProE Package + Picatinny rail + CGW Logo + BarSto barrel fitting
Bar-Sto .45ACP CZ97 barrel
Dead Air GhostM suppressor
Streamlight light
The CZ97 had about 300 rounds through it before sending in to CGW for work. The tipping point for sending it in was I had the factory bushing nut rotate and lock the slide back.. no good! (Issue resolved in the garage, had to tap the bushing nut with a punch and hammer until the slide unlocked) .
The work from CGW looks excellent, feels very good. SA is a small takeup then light wall to break. DA is small takeup then smooooooth pressure until break. 3.5#SA & 7#DA (pretty sure from memory) per the CGW gunsmith. The CGW experience was great,
can't wait to test the gun.
Next:
LOK grips (Palmswell Bogie, medium size hands.. ??)
Truglow TFX Pro
Dead Air GhostM is new, not tried yet. Have a Obsidian 45 so expect same or better results :)
Have not tried the '97 yet, can't wait! Feels very good, not too heavy /
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The TFX PRO sights on the 97 will shoot about 6” low at 10 yards. They are for the 75, rear is waaay low. I have the TFX PRO front and CZ #12 rear and I still need to hold high. That front dot is big, not a target sight but a great combat sight. I’m fabricating parts to raise the TFX rear.
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DJK11:
Thanks for the info re: TFX Pro's..
Per CGW when I talked to the gunsmith when I asked about replacement sights: Front sight: 0.37", rear sight 0.41"
HBi:
I just got back from range, everything ran pretty good, sounded good with the GhostM. Had a couple issues over 75 rounds or so:
slingshotting the slide would not quite put her into battery
1 failure to eject
1-2 failure to enter SA upon second shot
These issues seem to be resolved with the supressor off.. was using Federal 230gr FMJ target ammunition. Maybe needs something hotter?
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You’re not alone.^
Is anyone having malfunction issues with their bar sto barrel? I’m running the match grade barrel, I’ve fitted the barrel correctly, I’ve fitted a few barrels now. The gun runs fine with the stock barrel.
I’m having failure to feed issues, the round is getting hung up entering the barrel, goes up the feed ramp then gets stuck.
I’ve tried 4 different kinds of 230 grain ball ammo along with a new magazine, same out come. I’ll have 3-4 malfunction out of a 50 round box. Seems to get worse after the gun heats up. Oddly enough the gun doesn’t malfunction when I’m running my suppressor. Soon as I remove the can the problems ensue.
Also does anyone have any abnormal wear along the bottom of their barrel? I grease all my barrels also, never seen this much wear so fast.
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When I first got the Bar Sto fit back in May '19 I had several fail to feed problems with the first 200 rds or so. I compared the ramp angles between the Bar Sto and the original barrel and it looked like the Bar Sto had a different ramp angle. I polished the ramp quite a bit and the failures pretty much stopped. Jumping forward to March '20 and I finally received my suppressor. I've shot 220 of the same S&B 230 gr FMJ rds using the suppressor and have had no feeding problems. But I haven't shot it without the suppressor since I've gotten it. I've shot about 600 rds total through the Bar Sto barrel.
I need to take the pistol apart and see if it's dirtier than normal since using the suppressor. I'll check for the wear marks then.
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When I first got the Bar Sto fit back in May '19 I had several fail to feed problems with the first 200 rds or so. I compared the ramp angles between the Bar Sto and the original barrel and it looked like the Bar Sto had a different ramp angle. I polished the ramp quite a bit and the failures pretty much stopped. Jumping forward to March '20 and I finally received my suppressor. I've shot 220 of the same S&B 230 gr FMJ rds using the suppressor and have had no feeding problems. But I haven't shot it without the suppressor since I've gotten it. I've shot about 600 rds total through the Bar Sto barrel.
I need to take the pistol apart and see if it's dirtier than normal since using the suppressor. I'll check for the wear marks then.
I'll check out the angle of the feed ramp and I'll polish mine also, interesting to see a few of us if not more are having a little teething problems with this barrel. I have close to 700-800 rounds through my barrel now. The gun shoots like a laser beam with this barrel, shooting steel out to 100 yards free hand pretty quick. Which why I need to make this barrel work, haha.
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Went out today and shot 50 rds without the suppressor and they all worked fine. Also shot 50 more rds with the suppressor on without any problems at all.
I'll clean the pistol and check out the barrel wear over the weekend.
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Pistol was pretty dirty but not near as dirty as I thought it might be shooting suppresed. Granted, I have no idea when I cleaned it last.
There was no appreciable barrel wear on it anywhere.
However, I did discover the rear sight was loose. No wonder I had a few odd shots yesterday. I just thought I was shooting too fast. ;D
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After cleaning it, I took the Bar Sto barrel out and put it in my 2nd BE. It fit perfectly. Shot 50 rds through it without the suppressor and it worked perfecly. Then shot another 200 rds with the suppressor with really, no problems at all.
Except for one issue. The 239th rd failed to feed...the last rd in the mag jammed nearly upright when being fed. Now, I really think this was caused by me limp wristing the pistol. After shooting so much with the heavy Octane 45 HD hanging off the end of the pistol my wrists were sore. I put the rd back into the mag and it loaded and shot fine.
I did hang onto the pistol much harded for the last 10 shots and they all shot fine. It really is an amazing ballet that happens when you attach a suppressor on the end of a semi-automatic pistol!
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Wondering if anyone is still shooting their threaded barrel regularly?
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I just received a BarSto semi fit threaded barrel and a CZ97B. Can you show me a picture of exactly where you removed metal from the barrel to get it to fit up into battery? Thanks. Perry
After cleaning it, I took the Bar Sto barrel out and put it in my 2nd BE. It fit perfectly. Shot 50 rds through it without the suppressor and it worked perfecly. Then shot another 200 rds with the suppressor with really, no problems at all.
Except for one issue. The 239th rd failed to feed...the last rd in the mag jammed nearly upright when being fed. Now, I really think this was caused by me limp wristing the pistol. After shooting so much with the heavy Octane 45 HD hanging off the end of the pistol my wrists were sore. I put the rd back into the mag and it loaded and shot fine.
I did hang onto the pistol much harded for the last 10 shots and they all shot fine. It really is an amazing ballet that happens when you attach a suppressor on the end of a semi-automatic pistol!
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I had to file down the top front lip of the barrel chamber so it would fit into the opening in the slide. You can see where I slipped with the file and scraped across the top front of the barrel chamber in the pic below. I didn't have to remove very much to make it fit.
Line the new barrel up next to the original one and you should be able to see the difference in length at that spot.
The top front lug needed to be fitted so it slipped past the top lip of the slide. Now it works properly.
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Another perfect day with the 97B, Barsto and Octane 45 easily handling another 80 rds of FMJ with no problems at all. 8)
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UPDATE:
It has been 2 years now since I got the Bar-Sto threaded barrel. After 1,100 rds of S&B 230gr through it the barrel and suppressor are still working just fine! I shot 70 rounds through it yesterday with no problems at all. Pistol worked flawlessly as usual.
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No, demand isn't that high at all. Demand for 97B's isn't that high either compared to other .45 brands. Others probably just buy a .45 that already comes threaded.
I don't know of another source for a threaded 97B barrel. If you really want it, buy it. Who knows if it will still be available later on.
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Another perfect day with the 97B, Barsto and Octane 45 easily handling another 80 rds of FMJ with no problems at all. 8)
Sorry for the resurrection but curious your piston that you are using, I’m getting a silencerco suppressor as well and it lists 2 different pistons the .578x 28 and .578 x 28 XL. Thanks
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My piston says .578 x 28 on it. Nothing else.
XL (extra length) pistons are for firearms where the silencer requires additional length between the threaded barrel and the silencer. An XL piston is simply longer than the regular piston.
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My piston says .578 x 28 on it. Nothing else.
XL (extra length) pistons are for firearms where the silencer requires additional length between the threaded barrel and the silencer. An XL piston is simply longer than the regular piston.
Thankyou
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Another 75 FMJ rds through the 97B and suppressor. All flawless!
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I placed an order with Barstow last week for one of their threaded barrels. 12 to 14 weeks delivery was quoted. Now all there is to do is wait and research suppressors.
Not getting any younger!
Bill
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Congrats! that sounds like fun. I hope the wait is worth it. I just cleaned both of my 97s and chased a small spring across the room.
I'm curious to see what can you decide on.
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I ordered my barrel from Barstow on February 10. Received a call that it was ready for shipment today. Should be there Monday. 9 weeks. Now the hard choice, which of the 2 97s do I fit it to and start looking seriously for a suppressor. I purchased a Holosun 507c and adapter plate last month in anticipation of a need.
Bill
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I ordered my barrel from Barstow on February 10. Received a call that it was ready for shipment today. Should be there Monday. 9 weeks. Now the hard choice, which of the 2 97s do I fit it to and start looking seriously for a suppressor. I purchased a Holosun 507c and adapter plate last month in anticipation of a need.
Bill
Congrats! Thats not bad at all. Mine took about 5 months. It was totally worth the wait.
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The barrel showed up from Barstow yesterday, delivered by FedEx. I didn't have the opportunity to get the two 97s out of the safe and make a decision on which one will be the candidate. The barrel came with a print showing the areas that need fitting on the top of the chamber and cam areas. It doesn't look like it's beyond my ability. I've only had the 97s for about 3-4 months and haven't had a chance to get to know so probably won't mess with either until I shoot them some.
Bill
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Just ordered my 2nd threaded barrel for 97 number 2.
Got a rugged 45 can in jail that hopefully should be getting released as am seeing others with the same certification date as me getting their cans.
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Dang those sound nice. Glad to see 97s being worked on.
The 1 barrel I fitted was a fun experience. It was midnight on the kitchen table with all the files and dychem and stuff.
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Just got my Rugged 45 can on Monday, shoot a 1911 and Sig P220. Unfortunately no CZ 97 as I dragged my feet getting the 1 threaded barrel I have fitted. :(
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I finally got around to fitting my Barstow barrel this morning. Rather painless. It took about 30 minutes at the most. I checked the new barrel on both of my 97s and there was only. 001 difference in the measurement. The new 97 was a hair tighter than my used 97. Now I need to get serious about suppressor shopping.
Bill
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What compensator are you guys using on your Bar-Sto threaded barrel?
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Looks like it was a year ago that I received my Barstow threaded barrel for my 97.
February 20 I was leaving the dentist and my thoughts we're lm not getting any younger and your 3 blocks from the dealer and thought poo or get off the pot. So I started the process of getting a suppressor. I picked it up this morning , 44 days. My choice was a Rugged Obsidian 45 along with a 1/2-28 piston for the 9mm. It's going to be an interesting spring. Now I've started looking for the 30 caliber/ 223 compatible for the ARs while the wait time is short.
Bill