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This just my opinion…..

There is more to a gun then the trigger. Yes it can help you shoot better in terms of speed or accuracy, but that’s tempered by other features. The grip, the trigger reach, control functions, sights, even the build materials all play a big part in the equation. Some guns just “fit” the user better. That’s why the #1 advice for a new shooter is try a bunch of guns. It’s also why shooters who didn’t try wind up buying a new gun after trying their buddies brand ;D. I can point and shoot a factory P01 better than a Glock 23 at the range but not by much.  Doesn’t mean much there but in a real world situation or timed shooting it is a big difference in number of rounds fired hitting the zone. A lot of that is practice, practice, practice, but if a gun doesn’t fit you that practice will be torturous. That brings up another issue with a custom trigger, again IMO. I use to shoot all my varieties of CZs equally well. Once I customized a 75 and practiced THAT gun was THE gun. Every time I shoot something else all my timing is just off. Even worse in this time of high priced ammo it takes a box just to get back in to the grove on THE gun. Now I have to customize all my triggers, at least somewhat, to be happy at the range. A great trigger is a blessing and a curse. My last Opinion, there are 4 types of triggers: The Combat trigger (factory CZ), the Target, the Carry, and the Competition. Hands down the Competition trigger should be light and have a faster reset. It also takes more practice to master. The Carry is usually the level I go for. If I’m ever in a high stress situation I don’t want a real light trigger that takes focus and concentration to control well. Again just my opinion.

All that said, I have shot several P229 with different levels of customization; great guns. Never shot a Walther PDP, crazy right. Add the Canik TP9 series to your list. Out of the box an awesome trigger even the basic model. The ergonomics of the gun fit my style of shooting. The only down side are mags; pricey and hard to find. Not a deal killer for most people, but I like to have 9 mags for a specific model.

Thanks. I think it's the same with most sports/hobbies: you can have fun with the gear/equipment but in the end nothing replaces practice. Get something you feel comfortable with or at least dont hate and then put in the hours. One get reasonably get used to most euipment. My obsession with the trigger is not for performance reasons - I know I will shoot equally (bad) with any semi-decent trigger. But rather I'm trying to get the best feel I can in a trigger - the most important part that I interact with the gun. That's also why I asked whether the Cajun upgrade really makes the trigger feel better, other than lighten/shortens the pull.

Worst thing for me is CA only allows a very small list of handguns to be sold. CZ P01 and the P229 are pretty much the best among the few options I have, in terms of being overall good performer and mostly importantly having good feeling trigger. I dont want to get a Glock as it looks so 80s and the trigger.

So in your experience, how would you compare the P229 trigger with the CZ P01's? Thanks.
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New Members / Re: Sporting a New CZ Scorpion in Texas
« Last post by LA Scorp on Today at 02:34:31 PM »
Welcome from Louisiana!

As most do, I couldn't leave well enough alone and changed out....just about everything you can on a Scorpion! I opted for a brace, for the same reason you did -out of state travel & no paperwork hoops!
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New Members / Re: Sporting a New CZ Scorpion in Texas
« Last post by czsuby on Today at 01:57:50 PM »
Welcome from South Carolina.
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CLUB CZ97 / Re: Stovepipe
« Last post by originalbad bob1 on Today at 01:26:38 PM »
Maybe I should mention the problem is an "UNFIRED" stovepipe. Feeding issue.
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General Firearms Discussion / Re: Ruger MK II silenced
« Last post by newageroman on Today at 01:20:10 PM »
ahhh my heart implodes.....

I have a thing for the Ruger MkIIs. They are simply the best of the line. Cant take a MKII apart and put it together, good, go get a mk4 and sell me the "Piece of crap" for half price. You stole that pistola!

For those that don't know the MkIIs have a better trigger, no LCI or mag safety. My tops Ruger is a 10" stainless with Volquartsen gold trigger and bolt. Iron sights. I have a Mk4 scoped 10", Its good but not bond smooth like the MKII.

If you like those, you may want to check out Tandem Kross, as they just released a new 100% Ruger lower (no more buying a stock, then gutting it). Now you can buy a full lower and then just pick an upper almost like an AR. I paired my Kraken with a Maddmacs 16.5" barrel. Its a show stopper...

Any others? When I get my stuff wired tight, I'm going to start vids again on rumble and these pistols will be featured. Here are some of my joker pistols if you get bored:
https://brassbucket.net/2022/03/06/22-joker-pistols/
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CLUB CZ97 / Re: Stovepipe
« Last post by originalbad bob1 on Today at 01:15:40 PM »
OK, will try. Never had a stovepipe before.. with my P-01 or any Sig.
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New Members / Re: Sporting a New CZ Scorpion in Texas
« Last post by MutiSync on Today at 12:57:28 PM »
Hello from Kansas.  I own the scorpion and love it.  Swapped out the charging handle, the trigger and grip.   Key is to suppress and use subsonics.  The people on this board were super helpful answering my questions when I built my form 1.  I keep toying with the idea of picking up the airborne arms fore grip.
Thanks! I ordered the HBI delta charging handle. I'm planning to install it on the right side since I'm a lefthanded shooter. Ambi controls are another reason I like CZ.

I do have a suppressor that I use with my MPX, and will probably try it out out on the Scorpion, but my primary reason for the Scorpion is to keep it compact and easy to travel with.

I did the whole Form 1 SBR thing with my MPX, which is nice, but complicates taking out of my home state. With the Scorpion in a pistol configuration, and my Texas LTC, I have ability to travel with it more freely (at least in the states I'll be traveling to ).

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General Discussion / Re: Background checks to buy during a gun show
« Last post by RUGERGUY on Today at 12:39:04 PM »
Here in Florida, background checks are done right at the shows. If you have a carry permit, you can then take possession immediately. If not, there is a mandatory three business day waiting period.

I don't live in FL, but own property there. I also have a carry license from NH, which is (or at least was at the time) valid in FL. I don't know if those two things made any difference or not as to how I was treated when purchasing guns at a show.
Background checks were done on the spot in less than 20 minutes each time. Rifles were given to me right away. Pistols had the 3 day waiting period before I could take possession.
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New Members / Re: Sporting a New CZ Scorpion in Texas
« Last post by M300Pilot on Today at 11:25:14 AM »
Hello from Kansas.  I own the scorpion and love it.  Swapped out the charging handle, the trigger and grip.   Key is to suppress and use subsonics.  The people on this board were super helpful answering my questions when I built my form 1.  I keep toying with the idea of picking up the airborne arms fore grip. 
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This just my opinion…..

There is more to a gun then the trigger. Yes it can help you shoot better in terms of speed or accuracy, but that’s tempered by other features. The grip, the trigger reach, control functions, sights, even the build materials all play a big part in the equation. Some guns just “fit” the user better. That’s why the #1 advice for a new shooter is try a bunch of guns. It’s also why shooters who didn’t try wind up buying a new gun after trying their buddies brand ;D. I can point and shoot a factory P01 better than a Glock 23 at the range but not by much.  Doesn’t mean much there but in a real world situation or timed shooting it is a big difference in number of rounds fired hitting the zone. A lot of that is practice, practice, practice, but if a gun doesn’t fit you that practice will be torturous. That brings up another issue with a custom trigger, again IMO. I use to shoot all my varieties of CZs equally well. Once I customized a 75 and practiced THAT gun was THE gun. Every time I shoot something else all my timing is just off. Even worse in this time of high priced ammo it takes a box just to get back in to the grove on THE gun. Now I have to customize all my triggers, at least somewhat, to be happy at the range. A great trigger is a blessing and a curse. My last Opinion, there are 4 types of triggers: The Combat trigger (factory CZ), the Target, the Carry, and the Competition. Hands down the Competition trigger should be light and have a faster reset. It also takes more practice to master. The Carry is usually the level I go for. If I’m ever in a high stress situation I don’t want a real light trigger that takes focus and concentration to control well. Again just my opinion.

All that said, I have shot several P229 with different levels of customization; great guns. Never shot a Walther PDP, crazy right. Add the Canik TP9 series to your list. Out of the box an awesome trigger even the basic model. The ergonomics of the gun fit my style of shooting. The only down side are mags; pricey and hard to find. Not a deal killer for most people, but I like to have 9 mags for a specific model.
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