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Compact CZ 75s / Re: CZ P-01 trigger question: vs Sig P229 (SRT), Walther PDP, Cajun
« Last post by Shangri-La on Today at 03:25:24 PM »This just my opinion…..
There is more to a gun then the trigger. Yes it can help you shoot better in terms of speed or accuracy, but that’s tempered by other features. The grip, the trigger reach, control functions, sights, even the build materials all play a big part in the equation. Some guns just “fit” the user better. That’s why the #1 advice for a new shooter is try a bunch of guns. It’s also why shooters who didn’t try wind up buying a new gun after trying their buddies brand. I can point and shoot a factory P01 better than a Glock 23 at the range but not by much. Doesn’t mean much there but in a real world situation or timed shooting it is a big difference in number of rounds fired hitting the zone. A lot of that is practice, practice, practice, but if a gun doesn’t fit you that practice will be torturous. That brings up another issue with a custom trigger, again IMO. I use to shoot all my varieties of CZs equally well. Once I customized a 75 and practiced THAT gun was THE gun. Every time I shoot something else all my timing is just off. Even worse in this time of high priced ammo it takes a box just to get back in to the grove on THE gun. Now I have to customize all my triggers, at least somewhat, to be happy at the range. A great trigger is a blessing and a curse. My last Opinion, there are 4 types of triggers: The Combat trigger (factory CZ), the Target, the Carry, and the Competition. Hands down the Competition trigger should be light and have a faster reset. It also takes more practice to master. The Carry is usually the level I go for. If I’m ever in a high stress situation I don’t want a real light trigger that takes focus and concentration to control well. Again just my opinion.
All that said, I have shot several P229 with different levels of customization; great guns. Never shot a Walther PDP, crazy right. Add the Canik TP9 series to your list. Out of the box an awesome trigger even the basic model. The ergonomics of the gun fit my style of shooting. The only down side are mags; pricey and hard to find. Not a deal killer for most people, but I like to have 9 mags for a specific model.
Thanks. I think it's the same with most sports/hobbies: you can have fun with the gear/equipment but in the end nothing replaces practice. Get something you feel comfortable with or at least dont hate and then put in the hours. One get reasonably get used to most euipment. My obsession with the trigger is not for performance reasons - I know I will shoot equally (bad) with any semi-decent trigger. But rather I'm trying to get the best feel I can in a trigger - the most important part that I interact with the gun. That's also why I asked whether the Cajun upgrade really makes the trigger feel better, other than lighten/shortens the pull.
Worst thing for me is CA only allows a very small list of handguns to be sold. CZ P01 and the P229 are pretty much the best among the few options I have, in terms of being overall good performer and mostly importantly having good feeling trigger. I dont want to get a Glock as it looks so 80s and the trigger.
So in your experience, how would you compare the P229 trigger with the CZ P01's? Thanks.
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