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I just ordered a set of these to try out too.  Ill report back when I get them installed. 

I have one of these and really enjoy it. It's one of the few CZs that I have not done anything to but shoot it.

I guess we will leave the removal of a trigger safety feature and resultant UAD and injury or death to the courts for a decision.  A firearm that is designed without a firing pin block/lock and has a UAD is one thing, but when a firearm is designed with a firing pin block/lock and that safety feature is intentionally removed or altered is an entirely different matter.  Just because it can be removed doesn't mean that it is acceptable and clears the owner of any responsibility for a resultant UAD injury/death.  Most if not all law enforcement agencies have some pretty rigid policies in place that forbid an officer from doing any modification to their issued firearm(s) with special emphasis on trigger modifications.  These policies usually state something to the effect that no disassembly of the firearm is allowed beyond field stripping for cleaning purposes only.  If an officer is found to be doing unapproved modifications to his weapon the penalties can be quite severe up to and including dismissal from employment.  Departments learned the hard way, usually in court, how important it is to retain all the manufacturers safety features on a firearm.

Now, to the Shadow 2 Carry with the firing pin block/lock.  I took the bait and ordered one because I liked the premise behind the pistol even though I had no problem with the Shadow 2 Compact I own.  I came to like a D/A to S/A trigger system on my duty sidearms and de-cock function when I was still an active LEO and I thought the Shadow 2 Carry would fit the bill for me in an EDC pistol.  What I didn't realize was the difference this trigger system would offer in relation to my full size Shadow 2 and my Shadow 2 Compact.  The trigger systems are miles apart in form and function.  The Shadow 2 Carry has a D/A trigger pull of over 11 lbs and is rough and stagey from start to finish.  S/A trigger pull is over 6 lbs and has a mile of creep in it before the hammer falls.  It is very disappointing to spend almost $1,200.00 USC on a pistol that has a trigger system no better than and actually worse than a $600.00 Glock.  Worse yet is the CZ Shadow 2 Carry is being marketed as a performance based pistol that can be safely carried if desired.  I guess I missed the part in the reviews pertaining to trigger function and feel.  It could be old age, but this CZ Carry pistol has one of the worst feeling trigger functions of any semi-auto pistol I have owned.  There is a hidden clue in that last sentence.

In retrospect I broke my own rule when buying this pistol.  That rule was to never buy a totally new model or design for at least a year after introduction and only after I had a chance to shoot a few of them.    That mistake is on me.  I have a few options with this pistol and those are to send it to someone like CZ Custom or CGW to have it worked on and hopefully have it perform better.  Unfortunately, that means dropping several hundred dollars into an already expensive firearm.  The better option for me will be to shoot the Carry for a while and dump it chalking it up to experience.  Either way I still lose money or spend money on an already pricey investment.  Now don't go hating on me as I love my other CZ pistols all of which shoot great and are very accurate and have very nice trigger functions.  My Carry model isn't in that category.  My advice to anyone thinking of buying one of these new Carry models is to shoot one first or at least try out the trigger function to see if it meets your expectations.  Buyer beware.

Rick H.

It's not really a Shadow.  They called it a Shadow 2 Carry but it has a firing pin block.  It is a compact variant with an aluminum frame.  It is essentially an updated P-01 (shadow 2 ergo's in a P-01 package).  Oh and it is optic ready.

https://czcustom.com/cz-shadow-2-carry.html

Cheers,
Toby

I have a part time job in one of the LGS here, and I can vouch for 100% magazine interchangeability between the PCR and the Shadow II Compact Carry. 

As far as the differences between the 2 (PCR/II Carry).....yep, very much on point with the "busy" comment, and the PCR seems to be a bit slimmer in the hand, lighter feeling to me and others comparing, but lacking the rail and red dot interface if those 2 are necessary for your tool choice.

I have a set of VZ panels on my PCR, and a set of XS sights, the only mods to the CZ, and I much prefer that to the Shadow II compact Carry.  The PCR is more svelte in the hand, and a joy to carry.