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Offline plumber4444

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Re: Why do so many people shy away from a double action auto?
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2019, 11:40:26 PM »
To me it comes down to the simple analogy, better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.  I think there seems to be a misconception for some reason, even though obviously there should not be, with novices that the first trigger pull HAS to be in double action.

Anytime I?m even coming close to a situation that I even vaguely think I need to pull out my gun on, I cock it first. Keep my finger on the outside of the tirgger guard.  My point is there?s nothing stopping anybody from cocking it first and from there every shot forever becomes a single action trigger pull.

The advantage of a double action is for those unforseen situations, where it?s the middle of the night and you?re sleeping and some guy barges in your bedroom door and you have to grab the gun half-asleep!!! Yes, you want to be able to just pull the trigger with absolutely no thought process so to me again it?s the best of both worlds and I just don?t see a negative???

You don?t like the heavy double action pull? Fine, cock the bleep thing first and make it that semi auto gun that you so desire and love LOL. :)

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Re: Why do so many people shy away from a double action auto?
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2019, 11:40:57 PM »
I like them all. It's a sickness. :o

LMAO!!!! Too funny :)

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Re: Why do so many people shy away from a double action auto?
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2019, 08:44:48 AM »
I used to live in WV (miss the hell out of it, too) and we hunted ruffed grouse in/along the old strip mines and tram grades (small rail roads used when they cut the virgin timber back in the early 1900's).  If you forget the safety on a grouse you won't get a shot.  They are gone that quick.

This made me chuckle and reminded me of a few Kansas and Dakota hunts in years past. Not much is funnier than watching a pheasant hunter forgetting to flip the safety off as a ringneck heads downrange unscathed.

Um....yeah....my dog fails to find the humor in that, being on the receiving end of that over-the-shoulder ?WTF? look a couple of times myself. Just saying.....

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Re: Why do so many people shy away from a double action auto?
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2019, 08:50:27 AM »
I'm an armed security guard, and my company frowns on DA/SA pistols. They allow them, but prefer that we carry striker fire.

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Re: Why do so many people shy away from a double action auto?
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2019, 08:53:32 AM »
Suppose thumbing a safety off can be tough for someone challenged. 

All my semi-autos start out in Condition 1, all of them......  no learning/training curve between them. Obviously I wont own a DAO.

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Re: Why do so many people shy away from a double action auto?
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2019, 09:22:20 AM »
If the first pull being ?heavy? is such an issue.....

Is it any more difficult to thumb the hammer back as you raise it to shoot than it is to thumb a safety off?

It?s all about preference.

We are all conversing that we like different shades of the same color.

Personally, I believe Ferrari Red is superior to Flame Red, which of course is better than Candy Apple Red. Whaddya mean you like green?

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Re: Why do so many people shy away from a double action auto?
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2019, 10:31:39 AM »
Personally I learned to shoot on a big old heavy DA revolver. Growing up and moving to semi autos anytime I shot my buddies? poly strikers they just felt less substantial. I love the active nature of DA/SA, just find having two modes of trigger pull to work on, throwing decocking into the mix to be a lot more fun. Full metal frames just feel better in my hands. I look at it like martial arts. A lot of folks will argue what?s more effective in general, but at the end of the day if you enjoy a variation (that?s still viable from a practical standpoint of course) and that enjoyment gets you to train more often and with more conviction, that?s what?s best for YOU.

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Re: Why do so many people shy away from a double action auto?
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2019, 01:40:31 PM »
Train a lot with what you got. Do some competitions and see if your muscle memory is in place.  Then train some more and it won't matter which you chose as long as it works.

Good idea to mainly shoot the same thing over and over. IE I sold 2 P01's and a PCR to get back to safety on everything I shoot regularly. Did a Canik 55 for carry as CZ doesn't make a P01 with a safety.
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Why do so many people shy away from a double action auto?
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2019, 02:01:39 PM »
I'm an armed security guard, and my company frowns on DA/SA pistols. They allow them, but prefer that we carry striker fire.
I really think this applies when I see people restrict their searches to one action or another.

I?ve seen three safety managers where I work, with three different opinions.  The current one really likes striker fired.  I was carrying a Browning I could shoot well and rely on when he came on board.  There was no end to the hoops I needed to jump through to keep carrying it and wound up switching.

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Re: Why do so many people shy away from a double action auto?
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2019, 02:04:42 PM »
I used to live in WV (miss the hell out of it, too) and we hunted ruffed grouse in/along the old strip mines and tram grades (small rail roads used when they cut the virgin timber back in the early 1900's).  If you forget the safety on a grouse you won't get a shot.  They are gone that quick.

This made me chuckle and reminded me of a few Kansas and Dakota hunts in years past. Not much is funnier than watching a pheasant hunter forgetting to flip the safety off as a ringneck heads downrange unscathed.

Um....yeah....my dog fails to find the humor in that, being on the receiving end of that over-the-shoulder ?WTF? look a couple of times myself. Just saying.....


Been there, done that, and got the same dirty looks from my dog. The worst is when we're rabbit hunting and  I miss, my Beagle will usually bring the rabbit by one more time. If I miss a second time she sits down and stares at me with the you go get it, I'm tired look.

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Re: Why do so many people shy away from a double action auto?
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2019, 10:56:23 PM »
I had Glocks 19 2nd Gen,23 3rd Gen, Taurus PT145, XD 5inch tactical 9mm, got rid of them all. did not like the idea of the striker in the firing position when carried. Love my CZ p07. just recently purchased SCCY cpx2. DAO for summer carry this gun is a good shooter.

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Re: Why do so many people shy away from a double action auto?
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2019, 01:46:15 PM »
Mastering a traditional DA/SA semi auto takes a good amount of practice. A lot of people today buy a gun for home defense and it stays in the nightstand drawer. Gets shot maybe twice a year. They aren't "shooters" like most people here. They aren't willing to acquire the skill it takes and just get a striker fire.
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Re: Why do so many people shy away from a double action auto?
« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2019, 02:42:03 PM »
My laser insert round and lots of indoor practice has made it so the first shot in DA is going to be just as accurate as the next ones are.  Of course shooting for real every week probably doesn?t hurt much either.

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Re: Why do so many people shy away from a double action auto?
« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2019, 03:30:41 PM »
For your consideration

https://youtu.be/daSYE1PughE

https://youtu.be/IP8F_cwotM8

https://youtu.be/bU4v5i5c42k

I do rotate between DA/SA and Striker Fired Pistols, and one of the latter could be considered DAO.
Also, I get some practice in, before carrying something different.

I like them all. It's a sickness. :o

Same here!  ;D
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Re: Why do so many people shy away from a double action auto?
« Reply #29 on: June 21, 2019, 07:38:45 AM »
Have owned SA, DA/SA, DAO. My little brain prefers the consistent pull of the striker fired safe actions (Glock, etc.) as I get older  ;)