NRA is in trouble & TheReload.Com

[crosstimbers]

The only reason I pay dues to the NRA is that the gun club I belong to requires it, since their insurance is through them. A few months ago the board started looking into alternatives but, unfortunately, there aren't many options out there.

I truly hope that the NRA gets cleaned up and flourishes. As others have said, the name alone is a major thorn in the anti's rear end.

While i understand much of the animosity directed at the NRA, I will NEVER understand why gunowners wont draw together and in the spirit of .....trying to preserve our rights, back the organization best able to do so. Problems be bleeped.

There, I said it.

And yes I am already well versed in the typical replies, but we are engaged in a fight for our lives where firearms rights are concerned...to me thats more important than whether or not an advocacy group is a as "pure" as one would prefer...either ideologically or economincally

And while other groups do work toward the same end, none have the size, sound or weight of the NRA. Thats why the NRA is targeted so obviously and unashamedly by the enemy. Problems within the structure only make that easier.

I know I will be attacked, but my stance is that gun owners (myself included) tend to be overly-opinionated individualists...and sometimes lose the focus of trying to win...we wont win carping over which lobby group is pure enough...we need which group has the muscle to do the job.

[Earl Keese]

I'm not going to donate any more of my hard earned money to an organization that has been corrupt to its core for a long time now. The head of that snake needs to be cut off. Until that happens, not another penny. It's that simple.

[larry8061]

There also are other organizations that lobby in favor of gun rights:

Gun Owners of America  www.gunowners.org
Virginia Citizens Defense Leage   VCDL - www.vcdl.org
American Suppressor Association  www.americansuppressorassociation.com

If you know of others, I'd be interested to hear about them.

Thanks!

Second Amendment Foundation (SAF)

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

I'm not defending the graft at the NRA in any form and they should have quietly cleaned house when these situations occurred yet they let the participants stay in power which was/is a very poorly thought out decision. That said if anyone thinks there isn't some graft at the top in the GOA or the SAF or any other outfit from gun advocates to veterans charities and the rest you have your head squarely planted in the sand. Give people a chance too snag a bit extra and they'll jump at the chance every time even when the prize is seemingly small or inconsequential. Leave the cookie jar unattended and junior will have cookies every time.

[bullet45acp]

As a Life member of the NRA and a member since like 1991  - i am saddened and disgusted by the NRA, the board, and Wayne himself.
Our hard earned monies have been wasted on suits, houses, interns, etc.
Wayne and the entire board that keeps him power needs to go.
I havent read the bylaws and I suppose I need to, there should be some mechanism to get rid of them all.
We as the paying members of the NRA should be able to force Wayne and his cronies out, force new elections, and put into place a real set of accountants to prevent this from ever happening again.

I am going to go see if i can find the bylaws online...

In the meantime we should start a petition.  I bet someone already has.

JAG

[bullet45acp]

There is an online petition to remove Wayne, but not sure it will meet the requirements of the by-laws.
Section IX here...

https://www.creditslips.org/files/nra-bylaws.compressed.pdf

here is the petition

https://www.change.org/p/nra-board-of-directors-remove-wayne-lapierre-from-nra-office

JAG

[crosstimbers]

I'm not defending the graft at the NRA in any form and they should have quietly cleaned house when these situations occurred yet they let the participants stay in power which was/is a very poorly thought out decision. That said if anyone thinks there isn't some graft at the top in the GOA or the SAF or any other outfit from gun advocates to veterans charities and the rest you have your head squarely planted in the sand. Give people a chance too snag a bit extra and they'll jump at the chance every time even when the prize is seemingly small or inconsequential. Leave the cookie jar unattended and junior will have cookies every time.

Well said.

[BarkingAnt]

The only reason I pay dues to the NRA is that the gun club I belong to requires it, since their insurance is through them. A few months ago the board started looking into alternatives but, unfortunately, there aren't many options out there.

I truly hope that the NRA gets cleaned up and flourishes. As others have said, the name alone is a major thorn in the anti's rear end.

While i understand much of the animosity directed at the NRA, I will NEVER understand why gunowners wont draw together and in the spirit of .....trying to preserve our rights, back the organization best able to do so. Problems be bleeped.

There, I said it.

And yes I am already well versed in the typical replies, but we are engaged in a fight for our lives where firearms rights are concerned...to me thats more important than whether or not an advocacy group is a as "pure" as one would prefer...either ideologically or economincally

And while other groups do work toward the same end, none have the size, sound or weight of the NRA. Thats why the NRA is targeted so obviously and unashamedly by the enemy. Problems within the structure only make that easier.

I know I will be attacked, but my stance is that gun owners (myself included) tend to be overly-opinionated individualists...and sometimes lose the focus of trying to win...we wont win carping over which lobby group is pure enough...we need which group has the muscle to do the job.

I agree with that..

[double-d]

The NRA has to be bleeding members.... that should be telling and YELLING for leadership changes.

Makes no reason for me to walk (paid-for life membership eons ago), but I personally know four shooters that have moved on from yearly memberships until things change.  Betcha many others know others doing the same.

[crosstimbers]

The NRA has to be bleeding members.... that should be telling and YELLING for leadership changes.

Makes no reason for me to walk (paid-for life membership eons ago), but I personally know four shooters that have moved on from yearly memberships until things change.  Betcha many others know others doing the same.

Im a life member also. I'll make a point though, those who do walk away arent doing themselves or our firearms freedoms any favors. It makes more sense to try and right what is wrong in the organization than to just condemn it. But how many of those who complain about the NRA's problems, have ever tried to do anything about it? Granted the NRA doesnt exactly make it easy to complain, but it can be done.

Thats pretty much all I have to say on this. Again, I think if you put four American gun owners in a room and told them they all had to agree on a dozen things by noon or be deprived of oxygen...they would all probably be dead by 1pm. I include myself in that criticism.

[Wobbly]

Here's the petition. in case you missed it...

http://chng.it/4DHyCCZXhh

Meanwhile, back at the ranch...
The Texas bankruptcy judge ruled AGAINST the NRA and sided with the NY State AG. They are saying the bankruptcy is made up and a feeble attempt to evade the State of NY. This means the state might kick out LaPierre and install a neutral (yea, right) trustee to run the NRA until they can clean house. And, I would imagine there will possibly be some prosecutions to go along with that, once a trustee starts digging around in the file cabinets.

Read it all here...
https://thereload.com/nra-bankruptcy-dismissed/

 

[Wobbly]

Things get worse for Wayne LaPierre...

https://thereload.com/experts-paint-grim-picture-for-nra-after-bankruptcy-gamble-goes-bust/

[Rcher]

I'm very disappointed.  Just renewed my membership for another 2 years, but now I think this money will pay for lawyers expenses to save LaPierre's ass. Not for gun rights.
Glad that I became Life Member of SAF last year, their lawsuits, at least, care about our rights.

[Atomic Punk]

“If it comes to choosing between dissolution and ditching LaPierre, perhaps the NRA will choose the latter,” Bruckner said.

The problem is WLP is the NRA. He's consolidated the power and owns the Board. He will tear down the organization to save his own posterior. The only hope is a truly neutral court-appointed trustee to dismiss the entire Board and re-write the by-laws according to 501 (c) best practices.

[armoredman]

As much as it pains me to agree, WLP did have a huge hand in the rise and fall of the NRA. He was a great powerhouse for the organization for years, but like some do, fell in love with himself and the camera. The only way the NRA will regain the prestige and respect it had is a complete overhaul of the upper management, which is unlikely at this time. I also urge people to join local grass roots groups, such as I am a member of the Arizona Citizens Defense League, a great outfit with a long track record of wins.