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Offline Northern

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Who is planning to form 1 their Scorpion soon?
« on: June 08, 2021, 06:06:19 PM »
Who all is planning to form 1 their scorpion soon, in light of the proposed rule change on braces?

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Re: Who is planning to form 1 their Scorpion soon?
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2021, 06:13:52 PM »
Shall not be infringed

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Re: Who is planning to form 1 their Scorpion soon?
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2021, 06:23:48 PM »
IF I owned one (which I don't), I wouldn't plan on doing a thing until it is official. This will most certainly be challenged, and I hope vigorously.

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Re: Who is planning to form 1 their Scorpion soon?
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2021, 06:53:07 PM »
It would not be wise to turn gun owners, especially veterans, even more especially disabled veterans into felons overnight.

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Re: Who is planning to form 1 their Scorpion soon?
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2021, 06:57:04 PM »
Personally I don’t believe the rule will reach the finish line as written due to pressure that ATF will face from members of Congress in the coming months, but I can say that if it does pass, challenges to the rule will not likely succeed. It doesn’t actually remove the right to have any firearm; it simply establishes rules under which certain firearms would be classified to a tax status; and it’s well established that the ATF can tax short barreled rifles. I hate it as much as any of us but the fact that we don’t like it doesn’t disallow it, legally.

My question is, among people who actually own a scorpion pistol, who plans to do form 1 anytime soon? I know I’ll be working through the form this week. It’s something I wanted to do anyhow, so I can install a stock, but this has accelerated the plan.

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Re: Who is planning to form 1 their Scorpion soon?
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2021, 06:58:33 PM »
It would not be wise to turn gun owners, especially veterans, even more especially disabled veterans into felons overnight.

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Totally agree, but there is a more general discussion on the rule itself in another section of the forum. My question is who among scorpion owners is
Planning to file form 1 now?

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Re: Who is planning to form 1 their Scorpion soon?
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2021, 08:48:05 PM »
How would the ATF even know who owns one? My guess is that even if the rule is in effect, it would mostly impact new purchases.

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Re: Who is planning to form 1 their Scorpion soon?
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2021, 01:28:27 PM »
I already have a double stamp Scorpion, one for the CZ factory stock and second for an integral suppressor from Innovative Arms, plus a heat shield, a combo which I really like.  Hate the way most braces look.

If Biden’s sycophants get their way and braces are ruled illegal, there could potentially be hundreds of thousands of SBR applications.  So expect to get your stamp from ATF in about 10 or 20 years.

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Re: Who is planning to form 1 their Scorpion soon?
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2021, 03:34:08 PM »
It will be several months before the proposed rule becomes law, if that happens at all. So there is time before the flood.

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Re: Who is planning to form 1 their Scorpion soon?
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2021, 08:26:49 PM »
Already done, Form 1 took very little time. Put a HK MP5K stock on it, very table and feels better than a brace.

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Re: Who is planning to form 1 their Scorpion soon?
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2021, 09:36:15 PM »
Yes, you can get approved Form 1 back in as little as 3 weeks by eFile.  If you plan to do SBR, do it now. Don’t wait.  If braces are outlawed, ATF will be backed up for xx years.  And that is the gun haters plan.

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Re: Who is planning to form 1 their Scorpion soon?
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2021, 07:19:21 AM »
I will ask a dumb question.  I am new to this world. (Not CZ though.  I purchased a CZ 75 when it they first became available and I love it.) Can a fella get the paperwork squared away, not configure his Scorpion thusly and go about his business as usual?  Sort of have the SBR in his back pocket if needed?

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Re: Who is planning to form 1 their Scorpion soon?
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2021, 03:05:34 PM »
I believe that you can have approved SBR paperwork and don’t have to engrave it or put on the factory stock until a later date of your choosing.   I am not aware of any due dates for engraving.  If somebody has a contrary information, with references, please correct me

I would however not put on a full stock until after the gun is engraved, even if you have SBR papers in hand.  You would be in a technical violation. 

But what crazy prosecutor would come after you for that, these days when mobs of people set fires to businesses, cause millions of dollars of damages, and are not prosecuted?  It would have to be some political witch hunt.

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Re: Who is planning to form 1 their Scorpion soon?
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2021, 03:29:17 PM »
It would not be wise to turn gun owners, especially veterans, even more especially disabled veterans into felons overnight.

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Absolutely true!  Just crazy


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Re: Who is planning to form 1 their Scorpion soon?
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2021, 04:28:07 PM »
Considering it.  But also so many MK18s in-line :)


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