Colt will ruin CZ.

[Hammer Time]

Sorry that was vague. Trying to determine if the change is public or not.

Well, we're all ears if it turns out you can share. 

As for Colt, I have to really wonder how many U.S. government/agency contracts they have at this point? A few decades ago it was certainly their bread and butter, but the market and agency needs have changed a lot during that time, while Colt's offerings haven't changed much at all. And certainly, ever since this acquisition happened, it is no easier to find Colt firearms these days than it was before (except for new revolvers), so it doesn't seem like their output has increased.

[JMWalker]

Well, make it public!

Allow me to speculate:

“CZ reissues the Rami BD, optics ready with a light rail in 9mm and .30 Super Carry!”

“CZ fixes the Bren 2 gas issues and begins production of 6.5 Grendel barrels / conversion kits.”

“CZ fires Colt management and moves all production to Arkansas, selling old CT factory to shopping center developer.”

“CZ launches new pistol models and the Scorpion Evo 3 chambered interchangeably between .357 Sig, 10mm and 7.5 FK Brno!”

“CZ announces new magazines compatible with both the original Scorpion Evo 3 and 3 Plus!”

“CZ Announces that all spare parts are in-stock on the new, easy-to-use Webstore, and shall remain that way!”


A guy can dream…that CZ will pull its collective head out of its collective ass…

"CZ announces the DWX will be available for sale in 2 weeks."

[Claymore504]

Sorry that was vague. Trying to determine if the change is public or not.

Well, we're all ears if it turns out you can share. 

As for Colt, I have to really wonder how many U.S. government/agency contracts they have at this point? A few decades ago it was certainly their bread and butter, but the market and agency needs have changed a lot during that time, while Colt's offerings haven't changed much at all. And certainly, ever since this acquisition happened, it is no easier to find Colt firearms these days than it was before (except for new revolvers), so it doesn't seem like their output has increased.

For what its worth, I am serving in the military at a training site and I have been seeing mostly FN M4 Carbines.

[RSR]

For what its worth, I am serving in the military at a training site and I have been seeing mostly FN M4 Carbines.

Colt and FN split the 2018 and 2015 contracts.

FN alone won the 2020 contract.

2015 @ $212 million: https://www.guns.com/news/2015/09/28/colt-fn-win-212-million-army-m4-contract
2018 @ $180 million: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/11/14/us-army-orders-m4s/
2020 @ $120 million: https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/fn-america-lands-m4-contract-valued-at-nearly-120-million/

[polecat]

Any update gang? Was this alluding to new forthcoming products, corporate change / move, etc. Thanks!

[Hammer Time]

"CZ announces the DWX will be available for sale in 2 weeks."

I am both laughing and crying at this. I can't remember the last time a pistol generated that much excitement without ever coming to fruition.

[hodge]

It's a common occurrence with Sig Sauer.

[Claymore504]

"CZ announces the DWX will be available for sale in 2 weeks."

I am both laughing and crying at this. I can't remember the last time a pistol generated that much excitement without ever coming to fruition.

I feel the same. I have not been as excited about a handgun as I was about the DWX in a LONG time. I really do not see myself making any new purchases in the future, unless that DWX comes to life.

[MeatAxe]

It's a common occurrence with Sig Sauer.

Yeah, it’s disturbing to see CZ more or less copying SIG’s malfeasance model these days.

[Hammer Time]

Except that Sig is actually cranking out new models at an impressive rate. One can debate whether every new Sig variation actually constitues a "new model" or not, but the fact is, Sig is selling the crap out of pistols these days. CZ is not doing that.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

CZ can survive without the US market given the contracts they have around the world and They've done it before. Sig meh nothing they've made recently interests me. You can only reinvent a pistol so much. Colt has flirted with bankruptcy so often they should share a bed.

[Hammer Time]

Yeah, for sure I'm not suggesting that CZ should follow Sig's model in my comment above. I think Sig has taken it to ridiculous extremes. But the CZ group seems in stasis right now.

[MeatAxe]

Except that Sig is actually cranking out new models at an impressive rate. One can debate whether every new Sig variation actually constitues a "new model" or not, but the fact is, Sig is selling the crap out of pistols these days. CZ is not doing that.

Sig may be continuously cranking out new models, but they have a nasty reputation for suddenly  dropping parts and customer support on the previous models, leaving their customers in a lurch. For that reason alone, I would never buy another Sig product under the current management.

[JMWalker]

Not sure how mods feel about referring to other CZ forums so I won't post link.

Word on the interwebs is that CZ is handing over all US operations over to Colt.  Colt is taking over production in the US and laying off CZ-USA assembly workers.

P-10's won't be made in the US anymore. 

[MeatAxe]

Not sure how mods feel about referring to other CZ forums so I won't post link.

Word on the interwebs is that CZ is handing over all US operations over to Colt.  Colt is taking over production in the US and laying off CZ-USA assembly workers.

P-10's won't be made in the US anymore.

If that’s true, then CZ is committing brand suicide in the US and Colt / CZ USA will be bankrupt again in a couple of years.