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Offline Sigman1393

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Cz p10F fires in a holster
« on: March 15, 2023, 08:56:09 PM »
I used a CZ P 10F as my duty weapon that my Dept. Uses.  Last week I had my issued weapon fire while it was in the holster.  I've look in the forum and online but I have not found any issues like what I experienced.   So I'm reaching out here to see if anyone have heard of or experienced anything like I did.  Last Thursday afternoon after my tour of duty I was reaching into my unit for my yeti, I had my sling bag on my shoulder.  When I reached for my yeti the strap to my sling slipped off my shoulder and landed on the top of the gun grip or back strap.  The weight of the bag pulled down and made the gun fire. I was not hit by the bullet but the bottom of the holster blew out and that did cut my right calf. 

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Re: Cz p10F fires in a holster
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2023, 10:41:21 PM »
Wow. Close call there. So glad you weren't hurt.

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Re: Cz p10F fires in a holster
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2023, 05:00:42 AM »
Interesting. What agency are you with?

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Re: Cz p10F fires in a holster
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2023, 06:00:50 AM »
If it is not a pistol malfunction then I would suspect the holster is not a good fit.  Like maybe the indent that goes in the trigger guard is too close to the trigger and downward pressure on the gun caused it to pull the trigger back enough to fire it.  They might need a major recall on the holster.  If that is the case you could have that happen if you got in a scuffle with a person and them trying to get the gun and did the same thing.
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Re: Cz p10F fires in a holster
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2023, 06:13:46 AM »
 ??? Heck of a first post....
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Re: Cz p10F fires in a holster
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2023, 12:21:15 PM »
The lack of specific details makes this seem like a troll post. BUT I’ll answer your question: I’ve never heard or experienced anything like this. You sure you didn’t have an Sig 320 sigman1393?
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Re: Cz p10F fires in a holster
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2023, 01:16:26 PM »
The lack of specific details makes this seem like a troll post.
YEP! Not heard ANY talk of P10's malfing this way and not aware of any le agencies issuing them either. More info is definitely in order here.

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Re: Cz p10F fires in a holster
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2023, 01:25:23 PM »
 This has never been an issue with the P10 to my knowledge, and I don't see how it could be. If this happened, you should immediately contact CZ-USA. As somebody that ran a facility that had thousands of LE officers come through for training my very first suspicion would be either the holster itself or an obstruction in it (debris, etc.).

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Re: Cz p10F fires in a holster
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2023, 03:26:28 PM »
The lack of specific details makes this seem like a troll post.
YEP! Not heard ANY talk of P10's malfing this way and not aware of any le agencies issuing them either. More info is definitely in order here.

He never says he is LE: “ duty weapon that my Dept. Uses.” Could be armored guard or mall security.
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Re: Cz p10F fires in a holster
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2023, 05:12:48 PM »
The lack of specific details makes this seem like a troll post.
YEP! Not heard ANY talk of P10's malfing this way and not aware of any le agencies issuing them either. More info is definitely in order here.

He never says he is LE: “ duty weapon that my Dept. Uses.” Could be armored guard or mall security.
Not specifically but the implication is there.
Phrases like "My tour of duty" and "reaching into my unit" give the definite implication of a leo. Then there's the obvious in that the intent of a troll post is to get others debating/arguing with eachother while the troll sits back and enjoys it. Hope that's not the case but we'll see.

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Re: Cz p10F fires in a holster
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2023, 06:41:43 PM »
Can't find a single claim anywhere of a CZ doing this but it does appear there are still claims of the SIG 320's doing it. I suspect the truth in these cases is as always something is inadvertently caught in the trigger when holstering and movement eventually causes a pull of the trigger.

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Re: Cz p10F fires in a holster
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2023, 07:43:12 PM »
Can't find a single claim anywhere of a CZ doing this but it does appear there are still claims of the SIG 320's doing it. I suspect the truth in these cases is as always something is inadvertently caught in the trigger when holstering and movement eventually causes a pull of the trigger.

 That's been my experience as well. And I've got more than a bit. I've been on site multiple times when an ambulance was called after an officer or other armed professional shot himself at the location I managed. In no instance was it a defect in the gun. In every case (I can think of four or five off the top of my head) it was a holster or operator issue. Not saying that it's impossible this was a gun issue but it never has been in my experience. Though it may be worth pointing out that none of the agencies or companies that trained where I was issued the 320, at least when I was there.

Edit - Wanted to add that I can't stress enough that if this actually happened the person involved needs to contact CZ-USA. The fact that they're asking on a forum is one of the things that makes me suspicious about this happening in general and about this person being a police officer specifically. I know there are a number of current and retired police officers here. Lol, pretty much any of them would be able to chime in with a similar response to what happens if you have a negligent or accidental discharge with a duty weapon. It's a bit more than ask around on the internet to see if somebody had a similar experience.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2023, 08:06:11 PM by alp3367 »

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Re: Cz p10F fires in a holster
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2023, 10:19:26 PM »
Maybe his dept has put the blame on him and he is hoping to find info that will take that blame off... Unfortunately for him, that's not going to happen. I haven't heard or read of any issues of this kind about the P10.

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Re: Cz p10F fires in a holster
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2023, 05:47:48 AM »
The lack of specific details makes this seem like a troll post.
YEP! Not heard ANY talk of P10's malfing this way and not aware of any le agencies issuing them either. More info is definitely in order here.

He never says he is LE: “ duty weapon that my Dept. Uses.” Could be armored guard or mall security.

Mall cop? He might have bumped it on his Segway.
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Re: Cz p10F fires in a holster
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2023, 08:11:21 AM »
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