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Offline armoredman

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A tale of two range trips...
« on: February 05, 2010, 01:13:35 PM »
OK, I got sidetracked, didn't show the pics/targets from the one from a few days ago, soooo, I'll combine with todays fun fest. 8) ;D

A few days ago, I took the P07 out to see how well it would do at 25 yards, benched.
Is it me, or does that look kinda far away?



I don't have any actual benching stuff, sandbags, etc., so I used my range bag. By the way, that doesn't really work very well. :(



I only got one group worth showing...



That would be great as a 3 shot group! That wouldn't be bad at all if it was a 4 shot group - but it is a 5 shot group...while I would love to say, "two in one hole!", I can't buy it, so number 5 is lost in space somewhere.

A few days later, I decided to make sure the EOTech on the vz-58 was on at 75 yards. I benched it, as best I can, no bag, just braced elbows and tightened new Israeli sling - this one.



Typical group,



Best group,



All well and good, except for one WEIRD stoppage. Two Failures to Fire with light primer strikes made me look very closely at the reciever, figuring my unscientific dirt test had finally clogged the firing pin channel. Nope, it was good, but the bolt wasn't going all the way forward, actually stopping just out of battery! What the heck? So I worked the bolt, which quickly began going back into battery, when I noticed a tiny shiny disc of brass, bent over in a corner in the reciever. Say huh? I pried it out, and all was well. it wasn't until later I found out WHERE that bit o' brass came from...



That will get your attention! Very old Remington brass, good WSR Primers, standard load of 24grains Accurate Arms #1680 at 2.17 under a 123 Hornady FMJ. I am wondering if old brass with a worn primer pocket had let the primer expand to the point of losing that disc of brass? In any case, that case is now in the recycle can. 5 years I got out of that one. :)

All in all, a good trip, discounting the idiot family shooting the next bay over waving ARs and HK rifles everywhere...I saw enough safety violations in 5 minutes to last me a few years...so I didn't stick around too long, but I still had a good time. vz-58 preformed perfectly - that busted primer is my fault, not the rifle. I LIKE this new sling, too! Try one!
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Offline Ross7

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Re: A tale of two range trips...
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2010, 10:56:31 PM »
Good narrative and photos armoredman, almost like being there myself (up to and including the requisite range fools ;D).

That 25yd target does look kinda far away, but I've found that things I'm shooting at often do. ;)

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Re: A tale of two range trips...
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2010, 01:19:51 PM »
Yep, looks farther away during qualification time each year, especially with one of those G-rock things I have to shoot at work.
It has been said on other forums that Winchester cheapened thier rifle primers, and what I have there is a brittle primer. I will be calling Wichester tomorrow, and talking to them about this issue. I have also been informed that since I do not have benching bags/blocks, I cannot say either firearm was "benched", so I change it to "seated/braced". Yeah, OK... ::)
Ross, come on by and you CAN actually be there. :)

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Re: A tale of two range trips...
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2010, 11:10:11 AM »
I contacted Olin Winchester, lady said to box it up in a sturdy box, UPS will be coming with a call tag today or next day with a call tag, hand it over. :) Get rid of the evidence? it was in the recycle bin anyway, OK, take it. Last time I did this, I had a Winchester WinClean case disintegrate on firing, left a nice gouge in my glasses from flying brass. They called back the other rounds, fired them, claimed no problem, and I was out both glasses AND ammo. That was 9 years ago, let's see if custserv has improved - then again, I didn't ask for anything. :)

Only problem, only sturdy box I have that small is a Hornady bullet box...betcha that doesn't go over well. :D

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Re: A tale of two range trips...
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2010, 01:44:27 PM »
Well, whaddya know, I had to call them. They said it never got there by thier own tracking number, I said I'll research it, and the lady said call me right back.
Tracking number shows delivered yesterday. Called her back - voice mail, out to lunch by the receptionist. In 5 minutes.
Bet is now %100 percent they will say it's all my fault.

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Re: A tale of two range trips...
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2010, 03:34:05 PM »
...Bet is now %100 percent they will say it's all my fault.

Silly rabbit!!! Don't you know in these days of big "can't fail" businesses that it's ALWAYS the consumer's fault. ;D
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Re: A tale of two range trips...
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2010, 05:46:16 PM »
How foolish of me. ::) ;D