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Offline tdogg

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Re: 9mm Bullet Lengths
« Reply #45 on: January 12, 2015, 04:23:16 PM »
Black and Blue no lube groove coated 9mm sized to .357:

125gr RN .595

This was the maximum length observed out of a random sample.  The mean was ~.590.

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Re: 9mm Bullet Lengths
« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2015, 08:44:50 AM »
Most of your variation in length comes at the nose, especially with coated bullets. 

If you are using a seating die with an anvil that seats off the ogive, that variation in bullet length isn't going to mean anything ballistically.  Your OALs won't be super consistent, but your seating depth will be, and your standard deviations in velocity should be consistent as well, all else being equal.

On the other hand, if you're using an anvil that seats off the nose/meplat, it will result in consistent OALs, but inconsistent seating depths, which is going to increase your standard deviations on muzzle velocity.  Will those differences in velocity result in significant differences in performance at the shorter ranges common to pistol shooting?  Probably not.  But if you're looking to produce the most consistent ammo possible in terms of performance, or if you're chasing the power factor floor, you'd be better off seating off the ogive with such bullets (with any bullets, really).

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Re: 9mm Bullet Lengths
« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2015, 08:53:40 AM »
XTreme 115gr HP .506

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Re: 9mm Bullet Lengths
« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2015, 04:53:11 PM »
I probably should clarify, these are from the same lot that I originally measured and submitted for this thread.  So 0.525" appears to the average length for new bullets. I then pulled a few bullets which can from the same lot and they measure 0.527"-0.528". So the pulled bullets elongated while in the case?


IMHO, it's the manufacturing method that delivers the wide length tolerance. These bullets are plated in an agitated plating tank. The bullets are tumbling over and around, similar to cleaning cases in a vibratory tumbler, while the copper is being deposited onto the lead. Due to the process, copper is deposited at random thicknesses over the entire bullet, but guess which dimension tells the plater his job is done? Well, it's not the length!

Length is certianly nice to know, but it's far from being the controlling dimension on the bullet. No, the plater is watching for the time when the bullets get to the correct diameter and then he pulls the lot from the tank.

Jacketed bullets will be a lot closer, but plated are going to vary much, much more.
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Re: 9mm Bullet Lengths
« Reply #49 on: February 01, 2015, 03:32:41 PM »
Blue bullet 147's are .671" long.   They are meant for the powder shortage.   The max I can load them to, for a CZ, is 1.09.   At that OAL, I'm using 3.25 gns to make 132PF.
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Re: 9mm Bullet Lengths
« Reply #50 on: March 01, 2015, 06:57:12 AM »
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Re: 9mm Bullet Lengths
« Reply #51 on: April 24, 2015, 08:59:03 PM »
Updated 147 RMR lengths.  Bumped

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Re: 9mm Bullet Lengths
« Reply #52 on: May 14, 2015, 03:36:41 AM »
SNS Casting

147gr FP NLG Coated - 0.651

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Re: 9mm Bullet Lengths
« Reply #53 on: June 11, 2015, 06:01:07 PM »




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Berry's Plated
Length
Xtreme Plated
Length
RMR Plated
Length
115 RN
.557
115 HP
.506
124 RN
.577
124 HBRN
.619
124 HP
.536
124 FP
.556
124 HBFP
.555
124 RN
.583
147 RN
.667
124 FP
.530
124 FP
.525
124 HP
.569
135 RNFP
.602
130 RN
.588
135 HP
.579
Ranier
Length
135 RN
.605
147 RN
.669
115 RN
.556
147 RN
.670
147  RN-HPCB
.668
Hornady
Length
Montana Gold
Length
Sierra
Length
90 XTP
.449
115 JHP
.549
95 JFN
.411
115 HAP
.540
124 JHP
.579
125 FMJ
.575
124 XTP
.574
124 CMJ
.593
125 JHP
.547
125 HAP
.572
Zero
Length
Precision Delta
Length
Nosler
Length
124 FMJ
.590
124 JHP
.595
125 JHP
.545
125 JHP
.566
214 FMJ
.585
Speer
Length
Winchester
Length
124 Gold Dot
.561
124 FMJ
.599
Bayou Bullets
Length
Missouri Bullet Co
Length
Blue Bullets
Length
124 RN
.607
124 RN
.573
125 RN
.606
124 FP (no groove)
.558
125 FP
.623
147 RN
.679
135 RN
.633
125 SWC
.624
147 FP
.665
147 FP
.675
147 FP
.671
BBI
Length
SNS Coated
Length
Precision Moly
Length
125 RN
.599
125 FP
.556
125 FP
.575
135 RN
.624
125 RN
.583
147 FP
.665
147 FP
.665
147 FP
.651
Power Bond
Length
Falcon
Length
The Bullet Works
Length
115 RN
.555
125 CN
.610
125 CNBB
.616
124 RN
.587

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Re: 9mm Bullet Lengths
« Reply #54 on: June 11, 2015, 06:03:18 PM »
1SOW, I had a couple of MBC bullets to add, and I wanted to see if I could get the data into more of table format.  The above post is what I came to.  If you're interested, and if you have both Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Word, I can tell you how to do it.  It's super simple.  ;)
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Re: 9mm Bullet Lengths
« Reply #55 on: July 21, 2015, 08:09:44 PM »

Falcon Bullet (red coated) - 147 FP .672

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Re: 9mm Bullet Lengths
« Reply #56 on: July 29, 2015, 06:55:19 PM »
ACME BULLETS
HI-TEK COATED (Lipstick Red)
147 RNFP No Lube Groove .641 (will be deeper in case)
Push test says to load at 1.075 C.O.L. (this is after SUBTRACTING a .015 SAFETY FACTOR)
on my CZ P-01.

I have to push test my CZ SP-01 now.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2015, 08:48:08 AM by moonman16 »

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Re: 9mm Bullet Lengths
« Reply #57 on: July 29, 2015, 07:02:46 PM »
ACME BULLETS 9 MM
HI-TEK Coated (Lipstick Red)
124 RN No Lube Groove .592

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Re: 9mm Bullet Lengths
« Reply #58 on: July 29, 2015, 09:17:42 PM »
ID.... 
Great work here..... big thanks!!!!!

I know its a  stretch but...  i'd also like to know avg push test results for bullet and what gun

for example blue bullets  .147 .358 dia     push tests @  1.10     new spo1 tactical
« Last Edit: July 29, 2015, 09:24:49 PM by biglou13 »
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Re: 9mm Bullet Lengths
« Reply #59 on: July 30, 2015, 08:56:50 AM »
1SOW,

I edited the info above in my post about ACME 147 RNFP.
I had my CZ P-01 C.O.L. listed as possibly 1.100 to 1.090.
Just finished THE PUSH TEST with 8 different cartridges multiple times.
The C.O.L. for MY CZ P-01 will be 1.075 (with .015 SAFETY FACTOR) with the
ACME 147 RNFP (No Lube Groove).
HI-TEK Coated projectile.

 

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