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Offline Stogies

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Re: Skorpion EVO pistol is HERE!
« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2014, 06:00:22 AM »
You don't need a tax stamp.  Just put the SigTac brace on it and shoulder it like at the end of the video.  It's still a pistol.

Only until the ATF changes their mind, all that makes that thing legal right now is a letter. Just saying...

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« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2014, 08:54:42 AM »
You don't need a tax stamp.  Just put the SigTac brace on it and shoulder it like at the end of the video.  It's still a pistol.

Only until the ATF changes their mind, all that makes that thing legal right now is a letter. Just saying...

Changing their mind would only make it illegal to shoulder it...it could still be used as a brace.

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« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2014, 11:42:43 AM »
ATF changed their mind about the brace on a Shotgun, not on a pistol. I don't see them changing their minds soon.
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Re: Skorpion EVO pistol is HERE!
« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2014, 12:42:32 PM »
That was because of the technical definition of a short barreled shotgun which isn't the same as a handgun. A handgun with a smooth bore that is not a muzzle-loader is a SBS under the NFA. I don't think ATFE will reverse this decision, because it addressed the main problem - the item in question is perfectly legal, how it's used is up to the user. When they reversed themselves on things, like bumpfire stocks, it wasn't because of how the device was used, but how it operated. So, no, I think the SiG brace is here to stay, but there will be opportunists who will push the envelope as hard as they can to make a quick buck - remember when the firearms industry begged Olympic Arms not to make a 7.62x39mm pistol? oly said "up yours", and put out an Ar based 7.62x39mm pistol - the next day all steel core import ammo was classified as armor piercing because there was now a pistol that could fire it, and banned from import.

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« Reply #34 on: November 26, 2014, 03:41:16 PM »
ATF changed their mind about the brace on a Shotgun, not on a pistol. I don't see them changing their minds soon.

That particular instance also involved a forward grip on the shotgun, which a SBS can't have.  I you're absolutely right about the brace on a pistol.

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« Reply #35 on: November 26, 2014, 10:56:34 PM »
Me too, since I hope to someday actually own something like this, with the SiG brace or something close to it.

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« Reply #36 on: November 26, 2014, 11:40:44 PM »
I've been wanting a AR pistol but now that this is coming out.... I think I'll wait for it ;)
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« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2014, 11:55:42 AM »
I think someone asked, so here is who I know took pre-orders.  I got mine from Ed's Guns in Vass, NC but he sold out on Tuesday with pretty much every other CZ dealer.  KyGunCo was taking pre-orders on their website, also sold out.  I am sure Damascus was also taing pre-orders and I assume they are sold out as well.  As of 9am on Wednesday CZ had allocated all 1000 that are coming in the first shipment to dealers.  There may be a few available still or in the upcoming month, but I wouldn't count on it.  All of the ones my dealer ordered have already been spoken for and his waitlist is getting pretty long with all the other customers that want one.  I'll be sure to post pictures and an unboxing style review when I finally get mine.
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Re: Skorpion EVO pistol is HERE!
« Reply #38 on: November 29, 2014, 09:51:34 PM »
That's awesome...and disheartening...means I can't get one yet, unless miracles occur.

We need PICTURES and video! 8)

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« Reply #39 on: November 30, 2014, 11:17:06 AM »
That's awesome...and disheartening...means I can't get one yet, unless miracles occur.

We need PICTURES and video! 8)

You'll definitely get pictures and video as soon as they release it to my custody!  I'm going to call CZ tomorrow and get clarification on the SIG brace adapter, is it going to take a standard pistol buffer tube, will it be threaded so that we can use the KAK extensions or a folding stock adapter, MSRP, etc.

I read a thread on another forum yesterday that the brace adapter was going to be $100.  From the looks of the one in Noir's vid, it was just a hunk of polymer.  I really hope that's not the case, as I wanted to put a side folding adapter on and use the KAK tube extensions to get the brace to the proper length.
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« Reply #40 on: November 30, 2014, 11:18:38 AM »
It would be fantastic to see some of the CZ-USA and CZ Custom reps on here to give us all more info on this wonderful new product!!!!
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Re: Skorpion EVO pistol is HERE!
« Reply #41 on: November 30, 2014, 11:21:00 AM »
Sorry guys, I am finding it very hard to contain my excitement.  I have been in a constant state of near bliss since Tuesday!  This is like the year I got the GI Joe Aircraft Carrier for Christmas when I was a kid!
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Re: Skorpion EVO pistol is HERE!
« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2014, 04:02:32 PM »
Just to clarify.
The smoothbore pistol would be an AOW. Not a SBS.


Also vfgs on either is fine.

Vfgs can not be used on Title I pistols though.  That would make them an AOW and need a stamp.

I want a Scorpion.
Plus two stamps.
One for a stock(and inadvertently a vfg if desired)
And one for a 9mm suppressor.

Makes the P09 suppressor ready look that much more appealing to me.

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Re: Skorpion EVO pistol is HERE!
« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2014, 06:49:56 PM »
Damascus told me just yesterday they have no ETA on the Scorpion yet. They know they're coming but don't know when. I told them to put me in line for one :)


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