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SPO1SHADOW

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Re: STRIPPING POLYCOAT & GUN BUILD
« Reply #75 on: July 27, 2016, 06:20:43 AM »
Beautifully done. Excellent job on the write up and with lots of great photos. Thanks for the extra photos.

I am actually trying to sell both cz75b's that I own. The reason is that beaver tail. I literally shot 30 rounds and packed the gun away. The other is unfired. Seeing that this may be something I could pull off, I may change my mind on selling them. Thanks again.

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No! Do not sell those guns because of that one sharp edge! If you go slow, take your time and check your work often you can get rid of that edge and no one will know you ever did anything. I noticed in the pictures that on some of them it looks like an uneven line on the side of the beaver tail. This finish is still curing and it has some spots on the edges that need to be carded. After all it is rust, and it will continue to form around any of the sharp lines for a week or so. That is giving the camera what looks like a broken line but it's just rust that will be removed. I don't want to card it until next weekend so if it looks like a broken line or an uneven place look for the grainy stuff around it. I assure you those lines are straight. When I was shooting it yesterday I was paying attention to how the beaver tail felt against my hand. Feels just like my shadow with no discomfort at all.

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Re: STRIPPING POLYCOAT & GUN BUILD
« Reply #76 on: July 27, 2016, 07:50:55 AM »
SPO1SHADOW - why can't you be my neighbor? I'd love to leverage your knowledge and skills!! Maybe borrow some tools too  :D

Fantastic work sir.

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« Reply #77 on: July 27, 2016, 04:13:17 PM »
Thank you Sir, I appreciate the kind words. I hope he will be happy with it, I have put my best into it. I purchased a carrying case that allows fitting the gun and 3 magazines. I cant wait to give it to him and see the look on that Devil Dog's face.

If he's not happy with it, send it to me cause I'd be over joyed!

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« Reply #78 on: July 28, 2016, 01:58:07 AM »
Very nice work  8) 8)
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« Reply #79 on: July 28, 2016, 01:30:14 PM »
The best way I can describe it and the easy way I found to do it is take your moto tool with a coarse grit drum to begin with and cut the bottom sharp edge of the end of the tail moving the drum length ways only. Don't try to go across the beaver tail as it will make deep gouges that are very hard to reshape later. Work the drum length ways on both sides of the rear of the tail trying to delete the sharp edge and end in an upward motion toward the center rounding the material up and to a point in the center of the tail. Once the sharp edge is gone go to a higher grit drum and again in a length wise only motion shape both side until they match and form a more pointed beaver tail on the rear. Then use ever higher sand paper strips in a shoe shine motion until all the grinding marks are gone and the underside of the beaver tails looks rounded and even.







If you do this to a 75B that you don't plan on refinishing what would you use to touch up the finish?

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« Reply #80 on: July 28, 2016, 05:04:37 PM »
Semi-gloss or flat black epoxy paint should work OK. If you are careful only the underside of the beaver tail should need to be coated. If the place is taped off well so there is no overspray only you will know it's there.

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« Reply #81 on: July 28, 2016, 08:49:42 PM »
Sounds like a plan.

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Re: STRIPPING POLYCOAT & GUN BUILD
« Reply #82 on: July 29, 2016, 12:02:40 AM »
My 75B really needs to be done.  I have a large permanent callous where it rubs the inside of my thumb. :-\

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Re: STRIPPING POLYCOAT & GUN BUILD
« Reply #83 on: July 29, 2016, 01:56:31 AM »
My 75B really needs to be done.  I have a large permanent callous where it rubs the inside of my thumb. :-\

That sounds like a good excuse.

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« Reply #84 on: July 30, 2016, 01:05:52 PM »
I have everything now but the LOK Shadow style grips. My Son wanted the over sized thumb safety and slide stop installed, the slide stop is a plug and play, the safety is another story. Not only do you have to fit the sear nub just to slide under the sear tang so the safety can be applied but on the older model pre-B and B models you have to fit the shaft of the safety to the sear cage so the safety will slide fully into the gun. The small ridge just in front of the sear nub is about 1/16th longer than the older safeties. You either have to move this small ridge back or deepen the socket on the sear cage to get the safety to go fully into the frame. I chucked up the safety in my drill press and using the edge of a large bastard file clamped into a 2 way vice slowly removed the extra metal off of the safety shaft and moved the small ridge back until it went deep enough into the sear cage. I guess you could call this a poor mans milling machine. It works and that's all that counts. Once you have the depth correct then you must cut off the extra shaft sticking out of the right side of the gun. This safety had the extra D shaft and was meant for ambidextrous safeties. Once you cut the shaft off it needs to be radiused and re-blued so it looks like it came that way. Now you will find that you cannot apply the safety because it runs into the extended slide stop. You have to remove metal and reshape the corner of the safety so it will clear. Installing an oversize safety in one of the older guns is a lot of work but I guess it all amounts to what you want. I dropped the safety and some other small parts into a small iron basket and they are being blued now. I will post the pics of the installed safety as soon as this is done.

 



The FLGR from Dlask came in. It is a little more robust than some of the other offerings I have seen. It fills the hole in the end of the slide nicely and does add a bit of weight up front you can actually feel.



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« Reply #85 on: July 30, 2016, 02:20:25 PM »
Done



I installed the taller front sight and plan on reshooting some groups today while adjusting the sights. All that is left is installing the new grips when they arrive and fitting the gun to the carrying case. Unless I find something amiss while shooting today we can call this one done.

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Re: STRIPPING POLYCOAT & GUN BUILD
« Reply #86 on: July 30, 2016, 10:08:25 PM »
I just did my beaver tail following your directions and using your pictures as a guide.  It came out beautifully and feels wonderful in the hand.  Thanks again for taking the time to post your work.  It has helped me bigtime. 
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« Reply #87 on: July 31, 2016, 07:05:11 AM »
That sounds great! That's what we are here for, to learn and help. Glad you got something good out of it. Thank you again for the kind words.

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Re: STRIPPING POLYCOAT & GUN BUILD
« Reply #88 on: August 01, 2016, 07:12:48 PM »
I got home in time today to get out in the steam bath and shoot some groups and adjust the sights. This thing shoots like a rifle with the 10X bushing installed. The sight adjustment consisted of up 4 clicks off the bottom. If he doesn't want it I will gladly keep it. I will call him this weekend and tell him to "Come and get it" I hope you enjoyed the ride.

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Re: STRIPPING POLYCOAT & GUN BUILD
« Reply #89 on: August 01, 2016, 07:29:18 PM »
Nice results all around! Can you expand more on carding off the rust? This is with a steel wire wheel yes? Not much pressure I assume? Etc.

Many thanks, I really want to try my hand at this and I think I have a perfect candidate for it.
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