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Offline john seeley

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Need advice with Factory Test Target with new PCR
« on: November 02, 2016, 11:24:59 PM »
I'm very happy to get my hands on my new PCR. Pretty cool considering it's my first firearm. I have a concern about the supplied factory test target. Does this look normal? Acceptable? Does it reflect the accuracy of the pistol?  The dispersion is twice as large as other test targets I seen on the PCR and other 75 Compacts. Just asking. Thanks.


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Offline rhart

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Re: Need advice with Factory Test Target with new PCR
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2016, 11:45:07 PM »
Probably a Czech function tester with a hangover. O0
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Re: Need advice with Factory Test Target with new PCR
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2016, 11:50:51 PM »
I would not worry too much about the test target.  They use standard factory Sellier and Bellot ammo and the target is shot by an actual employee of CZ (of unknown skill), both of which are cataloged on the target.  I don't think their intention is to show the best possible accuracy from the pistol.  Rather I think the targets are there to verify CZ did the final test firing for function and to make sure the sights are regulated relative to the point of impact.  It's a nice piece of additional information (that many other manufacturers don't include) but IMO not representative of actual accuracy these pistols are capable of.  My P-01 shoots much better than the test target would suggest. 
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Re: Need advice with Factory Test Target with new PCR
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2016, 11:56:13 PM »
Probably a Czech function tester with a hangover. O0

First thing that came to mind!

I would not worry too much about the test target.  They use standard factory Sellier and Bellot ammo and the target is shot by an actual employee of CZ (of unknown skill), both of which are cataloged on the target.  I don't think their intention is to show the best possible accuracy from the pistol.  Rather I think the targets are there to verify CZ did the final test firing for function and to make sure the sights are regulated relative to the point of impact.  It's a nice piece of additional information (that many other manufacturers don't include) but IMO not representative of actual accuracy these pistols are capable of.  My P-01 shoots much better than the test target would suggest.

Thanks gentlemen for your input. It is kind of nice to get this info IF you see 5 shots in the circle! :) Thank you.
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Offline Psyop96

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Re: Need advice with Factory Test Target with new PCR
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2016, 01:49:55 AM »
Can you imagine shooting pistol after pistol after pistol at 25m and it's only 9:35 am on a Thursday.... [emoji4]

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Re: Need advice with Factory Test Target with new PCR
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2016, 02:56:14 AM »
Probably doesnt mean much, but  if there is more than one to choose from, I always take the one with the smallest dispersion

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Re: Need advice with Factory Test Target with new PCR
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2016, 04:50:03 AM »
I never even pay any attention to the test targets. I have some that show wide and way off center groups yet they are in no way a reflection of the accuracy of the pistols at least the ones I have. My CZ's are all awesome accurate shooters. I think the test targets are more for function than anything else.

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Re: Need advice with Factory Test Target with new PCR
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2016, 08:38:00 AM »
Agree with everyone else. For example my 75B's test target was all over the place yet it's my most accurate box stock range pistol right now.

I bought my PCR immediately before John (OP) from grabagun, and I think my test target is also dated 9/15/16 ? Just for grins I'll have to check to see if they were shot back to back based on the time, and also if it's the same tester (and maybe consecutive serial number guns?). I'll post my test target later tonight... 

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Re: Need advice with Factory Test Target with new PCR
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2016, 10:11:27 AM »
The test target with your PCR is considerably better than the one that came with mine.  Remember: they're shooting it at 25 meters (27.34 yards) and that's a fairly long shot for a compact pistol with less than a 4" barrel.

How does my PCR shoot?  You be the judge:


10 yards, 50 rounds GECO 115gr FMJ

When I take the PCR to the range, I'm usually practicing at distances from 7-15 yards.  The test target from the factory is fairly meaningless.

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Re: Need advice with Factory Test Target with new PCR
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2016, 11:53:58 AM »
WOW.  Thanks everyone..  Your responses are greatly appreciated.  I guess if the factory test target or any target had a fairly tight dispersion but all shifted off to one area, that could mean a bunch of things... shooter, sights, trigger?  Thx again.

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Re: Need advice with Factory Test Target with new PCR
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2016, 12:02:28 PM »
When CZ test fires them at the factory, they're not necessarily going for precision accuracy - they're mainly checking for reliable functionality and to make sure the sights are (more or less) on-target.  Other manufacturers (Sig, for example) test fire pistols at distances of 15m or less.

The other thing to keep in mind is that CZ's get better the more you shoot them.  I'm not making that up.  They really do.  You probably won't see how accurate your PCR is until you've put about 500 rounds thru it.  Mine has a little over 750 rounds thru it now and I couldn't be happier with the way it's shooting.
 

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Re: Need advice with Factory Test Target with new PCR
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2016, 12:12:36 PM »
When CZ test fires them at the factory, they're not necessarily going for precision accuracy - they're mainly checking for reliable functionality and to make sure the sights are (more or less) on-target.  Other manufacturers (Sig, for example) test fire pistols at distances of 15m or less.

The other thing to keep in mind is that CZ's get better the more you shoot them.  I'm not making that up.  They really do.  You probably won't see how accurate your PCR is until you've put about 500 rounds thru it.  Mine has a little over 750 rounds thru it now and I couldn't be happier with the way it's shooting.

OK. Thanks. It's good to hear.  I feel lucky to have gotten the PCR as a first firearm. I better get busy then, breaking-in that PCR! ;D

Need to pickup some accessories. Eye, ear, and rounds until my bulk ammo arrives. Cleaning/maint. supplies.
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Re: Need advice with Factory Test Target with new PCR
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2016, 02:33:01 PM »
When CZ test fires them at the factory, they're not necessarily going for precision accuracy - they're mainly checking for reliable functionality and to make sure the sights are (more or less) on-target.  Other manufacturers (Sig, for example) test fire pistols at distances of 15m or less.

The other thing to keep in mind is that CZ's get better the more you shoot them.  I'm not making that up.  They really do.  You probably won't see how accurate your PCR is until you've put about 500 rounds thru it.  Mine has a little over 750 rounds thru it now and I couldn't be happier with the way it's shooting.
He's right about that.  My first firearm was the  P-01.  I remember one day I went shooting with my brother, shot it as normal and thought "wow!" but I didn't say anything because I thought I was just having a good day.  My brother shot it (he shot it each time I brought it to the range) and turned to me and asked "What did you do to the trigger?". I knew it wasn't just me, then.

Congrats on your PCR!

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Re: Need advice with Factory Test Target with new PCR
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2016, 03:18:13 PM »
He's right about that.  My first firearm was the  P-01.  I remember one day I went shooting with my brother, shot it as normal and thought "wow!" but I didn't say anything because I thought I was just having a good day.  My brother shot it (he shot it each time I brought it to the range) and turned to me and asked "What did you do to the trigger?". I knew it wasn't just me, then.

Congrats on your PCR!
 

Thank you! 

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Re: Need advice with Factory Test Target with new PCR
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2016, 06:28:26 PM »
The test was done on a Thursday at 0935hr in the morning.  I have them at 0744hr in the morning.  So they start very early testing their weapons.   The test target on my PCR was three in less than a 1/2" at just above the point of aim and two fliers.   However, I have change to nights sights since then.