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Offline M1A4ME

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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #90 on: December 11, 2017, 03:21:29 PM »
My Urban Gray model is a 2016 pistol.  No issues with the safeties.  I took the decocker levers off when I pulled it out of the box here at the house.

The same ejector holds the left side safety in.  I've never taken it apart (completely) so I can't say much about the springs that are common to the gun no matter whether it's running safeties or decockers.

I have fitted a couple of the ambidextrous safeties to CZ pistols and the left side shaft usually takes some stoning to get it "just right" to fit into the right side safety.  I suppose there is a certain amount of friction "holding" the two sides together unless you stone the shaft so much it's a sloppy fit in the right side safety.  The factory guys probably do a better job of fitting them that a kitchen table gun mechanic like me.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #91 on: December 12, 2017, 07:05:41 AM »
My Urban Gray model is a 2016 pistol.  No issues with the safeties.  I took the decocker levers off when I pulled it out of the box here at the house.

The same ejector holds the left side safety in.  I've never taken it apart (completely) so I can't say much about the springs that are common to the gun no matter whether it's running safeties or decockers.

I have fitted a couple of the ambidextrous safeties to CZ pistols and the left side shaft usually takes some stoning to get it "just right" to fit into the right side safety.  I suppose there is a certain amount of friction "holding" the two sides together unless you stone the shaft so much it's a sloppy fit in the right side safety.  The factory guys probably do a better job of fitting them that a kitchen table gun mechanic like me.
Good to know.  My 2017 made P-01 Omega is definitely a slip fit, no friction holding anything. I dimpled mine to ensure they wouldn't come free.  Looks like something changed in house at CZ or their piece part manufacturer.

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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #92 on: December 14, 2017, 09:00:09 AM »
Just tried it on my 17 that the shop just got in stock and didn't walk. Shooting Saturday at my range so I'll try after 50 rounds in. I've been looking forever for one of these guys locally too.

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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #93 on: December 15, 2017, 07:31:31 PM »
Took my P-01 to the range today after getting it back from CZ's warranty service on Monday.

3 shots. That's all it took before the decocker started its separation.

I'm struggling to find the words to express just how thoroughly impressed I am with CZ's QA/QC.

I'll strip it down this evening and go the dimpling route.

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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #94 on: December 15, 2017, 07:58:36 PM »
Took my P-01 to the range today after getting it back from CZ's warranty service on Monday.

3 shots. That's all it took before the decocker started its separation.

I'm struggling to find the words to express just how thoroughly impressed I am with CZ's QA/QC.

I'll strip it down this evening and go the dimpling route.

I thought this was a problem only when a round got stuck on top of the ejector.  If you do plan to fix it yourself you might try using some loctite retaining compound, or medium strength thread locker, seems like it would still allow you remove the decocker while also holding it together.  I have not done this or seen what the fit is like on the decocker or safety levers, but it might be another option instead of doing the dimple method.

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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #95 on: December 15, 2017, 08:14:24 PM »
Took my P-01 to the range today after getting it back from CZ's warranty service on Monday.

3 shots. That's all it took before the decocker started its separation.

I'm struggling to find the words to express just how thoroughly impressed I am with CZ's QA/QC.

I'll strip it down this evening and go the dimpling route.

I thought this was a problem only when a round got stuck on top of the ejector.  If you do plan to fix it yourself you might try using some loctite retaining compound, or medium strength thread locker, seems like it would still allow you remove the decocker while also holding it together.  I have not done this or seen what the fit is like on the decocker or safety levers, but it might be another option instead of doing the dimple method.

Nope, in this case it is happening just successfully firing/cycling, no FTF or any other issues. Normal fire and it starts walking out.

I do have some blue loctite that I could try out on it. I was afraid of the loctite being too much of a semi-permanent solution. But, I don't intend to swap out the safety any time soon.

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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #96 on: December 16, 2017, 10:22:12 AM »
I've been following this thread for a couple weeks since I purchased a P 01 Omega last month. I pointed out this problem to my LGS and had them send it back to CZ.  Just picked it up yesterday after being sent back to CZ and was able to pop the decocker out with my OWN fingers. Nothing changed, no fixes were made, still have the same problem.  How can you trust the Omega trigger system after this issue?  I guess the only thing to do with my paperweight is send it to CGW for a whole new trigger job.  After all the CZ hype I've read about in the past year, this P 01 omega has been the second defective pistol that I've purchased from CZ in the past 6 months.  Have any of you guys seen the video Omaha Outdoors put out on the P 10c?  That gun failed his "shoot ability" review. Makes you wonder what's been going on at the CZ factory lately.  I think that I will stick to HK's and Glocks in the future.

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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #97 on: December 16, 2017, 12:04:28 PM »
You had it sent back without shooting it?

You pushed on the shaft and it popped out? 

Sorry you think you had problems.  I've only had to use CZ USA for warranty repairs one time and they were prompt and good and solved my issues and had it back to me in just over a week.

Will I buy more CZ's?  Hell yes.  I've bought nothing but CZ's in the last few years after working my way through the Glock, XDM and M&P pistols.  Thirteen or fourteen in the last 4 or 5 years.  New and used.  Front night sight "died" on my P01 Urban Gray, my only need of warranty work in all those pistols.

Every company makes some bad pieces, sooner or later. 

I used hear people complain about the wiring issues in the TPI Z28's years ago.  My old 86 IROC got 186,000 miles on it and was 24 years old before the computer croaked in it.  My first engine harness/wiring issue.  I guess I just get lucky most of the time.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #98 on: December 23, 2017, 05:43:20 PM »
Well CZ has been closed since December 19th and wont open till Jan 2nd. Ive been without my P01 since November the 13th, to be continued......  :(

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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #99 on: December 23, 2017, 08:10:00 PM »
Sorry to hear that.  Not being able to hold/shoot a new one is always painful/aggravating.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #100 on: December 23, 2017, 08:47:20 PM »
Sorry to hear that.  Not being able to hold/shoot a new one is always painful/aggravating.
I just hope its fixed correctly, I really do like it.

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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #101 on: January 08, 2018, 03:13:10 PM »
https://youtu.be/BgMNczC02pE

Stumbled on this: Fails during standard shooting.  CZ needs to address this.

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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #102 on: January 08, 2018, 03:56:57 PM »
Sorry to hear that.  Not being able to hold/shoot a new one is always painful/aggravating.
I just hope its fixed correctly, I really do like it.

Have you heard back from CZ yet, just curious what they replaced, if anything.

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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #103 on: January 08, 2018, 04:16:40 PM »
I would be curious to see some measurements on the ejectors and the ejector retaining springs from these P01 Omeges and from a PO7/9.

I would also be interested to see if you replaced the ejector and the ejector spring if the problem goes away.

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Re: P-01 Omega Safety Concern?
« Reply #104 on: January 08, 2018, 06:46:05 PM »
Stumbled on this: Fails during standard shooting.  CZ needs to address this.

Yeah, that's not good.