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Offline Crossfaced

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Rami sight dissapointment..
« on: July 26, 2018, 10:26:48 AM »
Over the last few years I?ve Gone through many CCW. Shields,G43,G26,G19,938 have all been on my hip at one time or another. Now I have a RAMI.  The RAMI is probably the best of them all. Comfortable to carry and shoot. Very accurate, and by accurate I mean very tight groups. Not too heavy and it?s very cool looking.

That said I am very disappointed in the lack of aftermarket sights for the RAMI. Or at least I can?t find any. Dawson does have options but my sight of choice, TFX Pro is not offered for the RAMI.

The reason for my rant is bad eyesight. The small diameter front sights do not work for me. Anyone have any suggestions for a front sight? Ideally it would be a larger diameter font optic. Thanks
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Re: Rami sight dissapointment..
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2018, 11:06:32 AM »
Here you go.

https://cajungunworks.com/product/020-262-front-fiber-optic-sight-rami/
Thanks!

I know Dawson has sights for the Rami, as does XS. I like Dawson but as I said in my OP I have pretty bad eyes and have difficulty picking up the small FO. XS is an option I guess but I?ve never been a fan of them.

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Rami sight dissapointment..
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2018, 12:10:12 PM »
I don?t like FO sights, but getting a spare sight from CZ and drilling it out for light pipes of my choice would be my preference at this point.

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Re: Rami sight dissapointment..
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2018, 12:58:16 PM »
The front sight dovetail on the Rami is a Novak cut, so any Novak-type front sight should fit.

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Re: Rami sight dissapointment..
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2018, 01:09:08 PM »
The front sight dovetail on the Rami is a Novak cut, so any Novak-type front sight should fit.
In theory yes... but I read somewhere on this site that someone tried and it was a loose fit. They did Somewhat fix it with some Loctite. I?d prefer a properly fitted one though,

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Re: Rami sight dissapointment..
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2018, 06:26:34 PM »

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Re: Rami sight dissapointment..
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2018, 07:14:00 PM »
We offer Rami FO and tritium
https://czcustom.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=rami+front&cat=
Didnt know about that Trijicon. That?s a decent option. Thanks

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Re: Rami sight dissapointment..
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2018, 09:00:04 PM »
Here you go.

https://cajungunworks.com/product/020-262-front-fiber-optic-sight-rami/
Thanks!

I know Dawson has sights for the Rami, as does XS. I like Dawson but as I said in my OP I have pretty bad eyes and have difficulty picking up the small FO. XS is an option I guess but I?ve never been a fan of them.
I've gone through the same issues. Love my RAMI BD but wanted sights, especially front that my 'ol eyes could see. I got the XS Big Dot, liked the nice big front, but couldn't get used to the goofy 'dot-the-I" rear sight.

Soo, I was looking through my spare parts and discovered a P-09 Suppressor-ready rear sight I had removed for an optic. It looked like the dovetail would fit and it DID. It was tall enough to work with the big dot front and I like the larger tritium dots. I took a machinist's file and opened up the sight gap, trimmed the top down slightly and cut the notch deeper so POA-POI worked to create a perfect combat picture and 'Bingo'!  Don't mean to take anything away from the excellent Dawson, CGW or CZ Custom sight options, but sometimes spare parts and necessity are the Mother of Invention!


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Re: Rami sight dissapointment..
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2018, 09:42:35 PM »
Here you go.

https://cajungunworks.com/product/020-262-front-fiber-optic-sight-rami/
Thanks!

I know Dawson has sights for the Rami, as does XS. I like Dawson but as I said in my OP I have pretty bad eyes and have difficulty picking up the small FO. XS is an option I guess but I?ve never been a fan of them.
I've gone through the same issues. Love my RAMI BD but wanted sights, especially front that my 'ol eyes could see. I got the XS Big Dot, liked the nice big front, but couldn't get used to the goofy 'dot-the-I" rear sight.

Soo, I was looking through my spare parts and discovered a P-09 Suppressor-ready rear sight I had removed for an optic. It looked like the dovetail would fit and it DID. It was tall enough to work with the big dot front and I like the larger tritium dots. I took a machinist's file and opened up the sight gap, trimmed the top down slightly and cut the notch deeper so POA-POI worked to create a perfect combat picture and 'Bingo'!  Don't mean to take anything away from the excellent Dawson, CGW or CZ Custom sight options, but sometimes spare parts and necessity are the Mother of Invention!


That looks pretty good. It?s pretty accurate?

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Re: Rami sight dissapointment..
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2018, 10:35:26 PM »
Yes, within 5-10 yards it's plenty accurate for SD and so much faster on target than the dinky stock sights.

Fortunately it started off shooting POI a wee bit high; so I could fine-tune by filing a little more off and trying again several times to get the sight picture just the way I like it.
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Re: Rami sight dissapointment..
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2018, 10:55:14 PM »
Cool thank you!

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Re: Rami sight dissapointment..
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2018, 08:43:29 AM »
Our new CGW RAMI Trijicon sights will be available mid-August.  These will follow the same pattern as our proven 310-221 and 310-230 tritium sights.


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Re: Rami sight dissapointment..
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2018, 09:34:46 AM »
Our new CGW RAMI Trijicon sights will be available mid-August.  These will follow the same pattern as our proven 310-221 and 310-230 tritium sights.
Very good thanks! Are you from Trijicon?

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Re: Rami sight dissapointment..
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2018, 10:17:50 AM »
I took a machinist's file and opened up the sight gap, trimmed the top down slightly and cut the notch deeper so POA-POI worked to create a perfect combat picture

Don't take this the wrong way I'm just adding some "file lore" to the discussion. I taught jewelry making, silversmithing, pewtersmithing and metalworking in general for over 15 years...a metalsmith lives and dies by the choice and quality of their files.

If the file in the photo is what you used, the correct name for that pattern of file is a "mill" file. I would not have chosen a mill file for this particular job for one very important reason. A mill file does not have a safe edge. In other words it cuts on all four sides. You can grind a safe edge on a mill file by grinding off the teeth on one or both edges. I've done it many times, mostly for my pewter working files. It is best done using a stationary belt grinder as it is easier to keep the edge of the file perpendicular to the face using the belt grinder.

I would have probably used a narrow pillar file for this job. Pillar files usually have 2 safe edges (some have only one) and choosing the proper cut (fineness or coarseness) of the file to use is also important.

Grobet brand files are of excellent quality but are also pricey. Swiss and German files use a numbering system to designate a file's coarseness. The higher the number, the finer the cut. German and Swiss numbers are, sadly, not identical in that a Swiss 6 and a German 6 are not of the exact same coarseness. American pattern files use a word system to describe coarseness. They are from coarse to fine: Coarse, Bastar4 (4="D", yep an illegitimate child), Second Cut and Smooth. American pattern files increase in coarseness as the length increases (Swiss and German do not). So a 10" Smooth cut file is coarser that a 4" Smooth cut file.

For opening up a rear sight such as in this job I probably would have chosen a 4", #2 cut narrow pillar file...or similar. I have well over 100 files in my shop so choice is possible. Were I to do this on a budget I would buy two files, both Nicholson brand, both mill files (though I would make one edge safe on each). I would buy a 4" and a 6" smooth cut, mill pattern file. The 6" MAY be too wide to fit the sight opening the 4" would probably work (I haven't gone to the shop and measured). One last thought and I have seen many very good craftspeople make this mistake, they will use a needle file when they should be using a full sized file. Needle files are not only harder to control but can flex some in use thus effecting accuracy. If I only had needle files to accomplish this job I would use a Barrett file (Triangular in cross section, only cuts on the wide base of the triangle, the triangular cross section aids in the stiffness (lack of flex) with the barrett file.

Hope that helps anyone wanting to do similar work. Nicholson files are the best American pattern files available (IMO) and are very reasonably prices.

In all my years of teaching I found that proper filing technique is one of the most difficult skills for my students to master. Have fun but practice !