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Offline recoilguy

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Re: Home Defense Pistol
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2018, 04:00:59 PM »
   After a few range sessions with my P07, the wife decided on one in ODG for her side of the bed. Previously a staunch advocate for wheelguns, her S&W now resides in the kitchen cause the stainless matches the appliances better. Ya gotta love'em !  LOL

Brilliant, That's awesome.
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Re: Home Defense Pistol
« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2018, 04:02:38 PM »
ha, that's awesome. Went looking a little today as well. I found a couple places that had a P-07, but when I asked if they were the omega type safety, they said no. Then I spotted an SP-01 - it is top of the running for now.

There was an H&K P30s V3 that was a DA/SA with safety, solid trigger, but it was plastic, still nice gun - but almost a Grand.
There was also an FN something or other that was decent too.

I'm quite proud of myself for getting paid today, carrying $$$ into a couple shops and just window shopped - buying nothing. Then to the bank to pay on car and student loans....uggg...

Other notables were Russian made zephr auto mag fed shotgun and the new Remington DM mag fed pump shotgun. cool/drool...
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Re: Home Defense Pistol
« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2018, 04:52:40 PM »
My bedside gun is an HK USP 40 with a Streamlight TLR-3 and night sights.  I want both a DA first pull as well as a manual safety because if woken up, I'll be in that dangerous state of both stressed as well as half asleep, so I want those extra safety measures.  Thinking of changing to an FNX-9.

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Re: Home Defense Pistol
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2018, 11:21:29 PM »
I found a couple places that had a P-07, but when I asked if they were the omega type safety, they said no.

Again, all P-07/09s are Omegas and can be converted from Decocker to Safety or vice versa.
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Re: Home Defense Pistol
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2018, 11:27:09 PM »
I found a couple places that had a P-07, but when I asked if they were the omega type safety, they said no.

Again, all P-07/09s are Omegas and can be converted from Decocker to Safety or vice versa.
This is true. The safeties are usually in a bag inside the box I believe.

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Re: Home Defense Pistol
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2018, 11:56:45 PM »
I found a couple places that had a P-07, but when I asked if they were the omega type safety, they said no.

Again, all P-07/09s are Omegas and can be converted from Decocker to Safety or vice versa.
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It is unfortunate that many gun shop/pawn shop clerks just don't know the the details of the products they're selling. There are of course exceptions; and it's worth paying a bit extra for expertise at a really good store that typically has an in-house gunsmith. I can't begin to count the number of times I've read up on a product and had to show clerks the features they have no clue about.
 
Typically, P-07/09's are shipped as decockers; but if you look carefully in the packaging there are a couple of small black parts in a plastic bag for DIY quick change over to a manual safety. This is a very unique feature of the P-07/09's and a few CZ 75 omega series.

There are other features of the P-07/09 that usually go overlooked. Like an extremely durable black nitride finish on slide and barrel exterior and a polished feed ramp. These are features not typically found at this price point but in addition to their accuracy and reliability IMHO make the P-07 a great value. Whether you buy a CZ or something else; hopefully, you'll find a store that really knows their guns and stands behind them.
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Re: Home Defense Pistol
« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2018, 07:26:10 AM »
The instructions for changing from decocker to thumb safety operation is right inside the owner's manual. 

I just put the spring and decocking levers in the same plastic bag the thumb safeties came in and put them in the same place in the CZ pistol case the pistol/magazines came in.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Home Defense Pistol
« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2018, 05:31:32 PM »
agreed. I thought I remembered someone on here stating that the P-07 and 09s were all omegas, but its a good tester question. I'd like to think that if I were behind the counter I'd be studying up on everything back there as just general interest.
I still didn't think that the trigger on those were as nice as the SP-01 that I did try. There was a little bit of wiggle/slop at the initial take up in DA. Same for the SP-01 combat in urban grey that I found used at a shop this weekend. I found out those were decocker only so passed. I also did find a Jericho steel and a polymer this weekend to put my hands on. they were similar, but not as refined as the CZ. I liked the grip shape of the polymer better, but the grips were slicker than the steel version.

I'd love to find a used SP-01 locally, or compare the 01 to an 01 phantom. Thanks for all the input - I'll consider this thread done until I make purchase.
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Re: Home Defense Pistol
« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2018, 11:32:27 PM »
My wife chose the SR9 by Ruger for her night stand gun.  I put a TL1l light on it.    She could rack the slide on it where others were problematic. Yes I know about the push with the strong hand while pulling with the non dominant hand.  Taught her that.  She chose the 9mm XDs for her carry sidearm.  Same reasons.  I took care of the magazine disconnect on the SR9.  Liked it so much I picked up a SR9E.  They are extremely reasonable right now since the American came on as it?s replacement.  Those aren?t going over so well so,I hear. Trigger pull on the SR9series are excellent.  Picked up the Ruger PCC 9 as a companion recently. Good luck with HER choice.  It really is what works for her if you desire compliance.

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Re: Home Defense Pistol
« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2018, 11:56:05 PM »
Miss read the post.  You are looking for a HD arm and not the missus.  In the famous words of Gilda Ratner from Saturday Night Live, the early years.....?Never Mind?

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Re: Home Defense Pistol
« Reply #40 on: August 08, 2018, 11:08:20 AM »
Well, the one that I'm looking at primarily right now would be HD pistol for us both, and that we would both be using. She is also going to look for a carry pistol to replace the keltec 3AT (which I cant stand).
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Re: Home Defense Pistol
« Reply #41 on: August 08, 2018, 11:30:26 PM »
Stand by my post and selection opinion.  It I approached it from buying for your wife and so provided my experience. As much as I wanted my wife to like the CZ pattern firearms, she just couldn?t rack the slide on any of them.  Deal breaker from that criteria.  Sr9 and SR9E....problem solved with a dependable accurate and reliable firearm that pleased both of us.     

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Re: Home Defense Pistol
« Reply #42 on: August 09, 2018, 03:14:58 PM »
Nice, if everyone is happy its a good day!!!

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Re: Home Defense Pistol
« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2018, 08:09:55 PM »
.......... compare the 01 to an 01 phantom. Thanks for all the input - I'll consider this thread done until I make purchase.

do this ^^^^^^ before deciding.......keep in mind that the Phantom will be slightly barrel end heavy unloaded, but perfectly balanced loaded....so if possible hold it in your hands with a full mag too  ;)
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Re: Home Defense Pistol
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2018, 04:35:32 PM »
Well, I put down a little $ on the steel framed SP-01 manual safety today. A couple more paychecks and it will be home. Since this is SD related, I also just bought a Ft. Knox quick access safe with the simplex lock and love it. It was about twice the cost of other battery op safes, but worth it IMO (no 9v batteries to buy/recharge, heavy duty steel, quick access, big enough for 2 full sized pistols and mags). I'm planning on running the o-light charge cord through one of the mounting holes on the bottom - we'll see how that works...keep you posted.
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