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Offline GeneralSu

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Re: P09/07 thread on potential major issues
« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2018, 03:57:15 PM »
Our new disco's will not be in until the middle of this month (September 2018).  However, as I stated previously, we made a change for a problem that I would estimate is less than a percent of a percent. 

No rational reason to change any parts  (because of this aforementioned "issue") whether your CZ is stock or not.  The new sear pins are a couple months away.

Thanks, that puts my mind at ease!

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Re: P09/07 thread on potential major issues
« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2018, 04:32:09 PM »
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?209390-PX4-CC-vs-CZ-P07

Schmeky,
Glad you cleared this nonsense up. I hate when people post things that are unfounded hearsay or just plain take things out of context and start a firestorm of untruths. The case in point can be found in post #4 in the above link from the OP's original post where in the guy alludes to the 41 page thread and claims that CGW found that 7 out of 10 pistols they had on the shelf had the flaw.

Actually, I did a little looking..the numbers were off, but in post158, pg16, of the "CZ P09 ingniton problem" thread over at pistol forum .com  GJM did say that Scott at CGW found the he could do this with 3/5 stock pistols they had... So, he was'nt entirely wrong... Don't shoot the messenger :-[  just sayin...
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Re: P09/07 thread on potential major issues
« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2018, 05:58:35 PM »
^^Correction: If you are going to shoot the messenger, use a CZ.
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Re: P09/07 thread on potential major issues
« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2018, 06:35:36 PM »
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?209390-PX4-CC-vs-CZ-P07

Schmeky,
Glad you cleared this nonsense up. I hate when people post things that are unfounded hearsay or just plain take things out of context and start a firestorm of untruths. The case in point can be found in post #4 in the above link from the OP's original post where in the guy alludes to the 41 page thread and claims that CGW found that 7 out of 10 pistols they had on the shelf had the flaw.

Actually, I did a little looking..the numbers were off, but in post158, pg16, of the "CZ P09 ingniton problem" thread over at pistol forum .com  GJM did say that Scott at CGW found the he could do this with 3/5 stock pistols they had... So, he was'nt entirely wrong... Don't shoot the messenger :-[  just sayin...
Even if you could get every pistol to act up through trigger manipulation it's not exactly a defect since in normal operation it doesn't show up and I think David addressed that pretty well. Like I stated before I can't get my particular P-07 to malfunction that way and I have never tried it on any of my other semi autos but I remember from my early days with revolvers you can get the lockwork to jam by slowly staging the trigger and then letting off before the hammer falls sometimes. Not a defect just the result of improper use.

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Re: P09/07 thread on potential major issues
« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2018, 06:38:45 PM »
^^Correction: If you are going to shoot the messenger, use a CZ.

You did say, "shoot", not "shoot at".  So a CZ would be better than some others if the target is small or more distant.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: P09/07 thread on potential major issues
« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2018, 09:45:17 PM »
^^Correction: If you are going to shoot the messenger, use a CZ.

You did say, "shoot", not "shoot at".  So a CZ would be better than some others if the target is small or more distant.

Since I had a knee replacement last December, I can't run very fast or very far, (one of the few downsides) So, I'd be an easy target... ;)

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Re: P09/07 thread on potential major issues
« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2018, 01:50:59 PM »
And there you have it, members of the jury. Much ado about nothing, mountains out of molehills, nonsense parlayed from anecdotal evidence.

Party on!

I participated in the pistolforum thread. Have 2 p-09's that I cannot produce the issue with - thought it was pretty overblown UNTIL I pulled out my back up carry  gun, my p-07 and could easily replicate the issue. Sure, might be much ado about nothing - until a gun you were putting a lot of trust in drops to half cock while pulling the trigger -even if it is rare or some unconventional press of the trigger. I am still carrying my chopped p-09 with confidence and have just passed 8k rounds through the other 09 without any problems.

I am super grateful to CGW for going the extra mile(s) to investigate and solve the issue with better parts (right on par with all their other 07/09 parts) - they have a customer for life and I will be purchasing much from them.

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Offline M1A4ME

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Re: P09/07 thread on potential major issues
« Reply #37 on: September 08, 2018, 03:17:49 PM »
When I'm in the mood to upgrade a CZ I always check out the CGW website first.  Good prices.  Good shipping price.  Fastest shipping service I've seen.  I've ordered Friday morning and got my stuff on Monday and I live in central VA.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: P09/07 thread on potential major issues
« Reply #38 on: September 08, 2018, 03:58:28 PM »
When I'm in the mood to upgrade a CZ I always check out the CGW website first.  Good prices.  Good shipping price.  Fastest shipping service I've seen.  I've ordered Friday morning and got my stuff on Monday and I live in central VA.

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Re: P09/07 thread on potential major issues
« Reply #39 on: September 08, 2018, 06:12:43 PM »
 So how do I test my handgun? I try to pull the trigger sideways, but nothing. My particular pistol has a bit of movement in the trigger.

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Re: P09/07 thread on potential major issues
« Reply #40 on: September 09, 2018, 12:43:16 AM »
... Striker fired guns have no soul. They are the prius of pistols!

My Savage 1907 & 1917 and my Luger disagree with your opinion.
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Re: P09/07 thread on potential major issues
« Reply #41 on: September 09, 2018, 01:07:37 AM »
Strikers, Hammer fired semi autos I love them all.


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Re: P09/07 thread on potential major issues
« Reply #42 on: September 09, 2018, 08:00:29 AM »
See post #12 on this thread
So how do I test my handgun? I try to pull the trigger sideways, but nothing. My particular pistol has a bit of movement in the trigger.

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Re: P09/07 thread on potential major issues
« Reply #43 on: September 09, 2018, 10:44:50 AM »
See post #12 on this thread
So how do I test my handgun? I try to pull the trigger sideways, but nothing. My particular pistol has a bit of movement in the trigger.

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I tried that, and all I got was some sore fingers..I have yet to be able to make my P07 do this, So, either I'm not doing it right (likely) or my pistol is one that dosen't have the problem (also just as likely)  But as we have found out, for most it's not an issue,if it becomes one, CGW already has a fix in the works..
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Re: P09/07 thread on potential major issues
« Reply #44 on: September 09, 2018, 01:31:29 PM »
I will admit that I was curious if my P07 would do this so I tried for 5 minutes.

Then I palm slapped myself, why look to see if I can make my pistol do it. When in 10,000 live rounds and maybe 50,000 dry fires it had never done it.

Carried my P07 though this whole episode and see no reason to stop using it now.