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Offline Earl Keese

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Re: Trusty 512 knocked another big Wild Boar down
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2021, 05:20:15 PM »
I thought about writing the following lines for a long time, but have now come to the conclusion to do it. 

"Other countries, other manners ..."

1) In Europe it is forbidden to hunt wild boars with . 22magnum or . 22lr. 

2) Every European hunter, I repeat it, everyone would turn away with horror from a hunt in which a boar was shot with numerous caliber . 22 rounds.   >:(

People may criticize me for these lines now, but as a European hunter who has been hunting for 45 years and has shot more than 200 wild boars, I had to write that here now.
Most hunters I know, myself included, wouldn't take a shot or utilize a caliber that has no chance of killing an animal on that first shot. My father didn't teach me this way, and I haven't taught my daughter anything but respect for prey and the ethics that come with hunting.
Bragging about hog killing with repeated shots from a .22lr or .22 mag makes me cringe as much as any european, superior though they may be.

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Re: Trusty 512 knocked another big Wild Boar down
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Re: Trusty 512 knocked another big Wild Boar down
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2021, 09:25:38 AM »
I thought about writing the following lines for a long time, but have now come to the conclusion to do it. 

"Other countries, other manners ..."

1) In Europe it is forbidden to hunt wild boars with . 22magnum or . 22lr. 

2) Every European hunter, I repeat it, everyone would turn away with horror from a hunt in which a boar was shot with numerous caliber . 22 rounds.   >:(

People may criticize me for these lines now, but as a European hunter who has been hunting for 45 years and has shot more than 200 wild boars, I had to write that here now.

GMork, I appreciate your thoughts on this. I thought the same when I read it, not from a European perspective, but from an ethics perspective. True, wild pigs are pests that destroy crops and do other damage, but they are still animals, and we are humans. Ethically, human hunters have a responsibility to be skilled enough to kill prey with one well-placed shot. Very often does not happen, but it should be the goal. Part of the requirement then would using a weapon capable of killing the animal quickly, and as painlessly as possible. I don't see a .22 being consistently capable of that, especially if firing at a running animal and not likely to hit a vital area.

Not for nothing but many of us view taking a shot at a running animal as unethical.

Maybe in the case of survival, or self defense, but otherwise it is usually considered proper to wait until an animal presents a good shot. Stationary or perhaps walking slowly.

But my overall point is, opinions vary, and nobody really has claim to the moral high ground except in certain clear-cut cases. Some view hunting deer over bait (a feeder) as unethical. Some feel that hunting itself is wrong (I certainly disagree).

I am an ethical hunter, always have been now for well over 40 years. I dont see anything wrong with my suggested use of small caliber rifles against young piglets. With that I think I'll stand down from the rest of this one.
It's not saving any water if you have to flush it over and over....

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Re: Trusty 512 knocked another big Wild Boar down
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Re: Trusty 512 knocked another big Wild Boar down
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2021, 07:25:59 PM »
The boys did a great job. Nice pictures.
Every human has the right to firearm and self-protection.

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Re: Trusty 512 knocked another big Wild Boar down
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Re: Trusty 512 knocked another big Wild Boar down
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2021, 06:40:18 AM »
The boys did a great job. Nice pictures.
As far as I understand the first post, none of the boys shot the boar, but the adult companion or father. 
But no matter whether he was a father or a companion, he was a very bad role model for the boys as a responsible and conscientious hunter! :(
We get it Gmork, everybody here knows you're morally superior.

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Re: Trusty 512 knocked another big Wild Boar down
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2021, 12:49:41 PM »
The boys did a great job. Nice pictures.
As far as I understand the first post, none of the boys shot the boar, but the adult companion or father. 
But no matter whether he was a father or a companion, he was a very bad role model for the boys as a responsible and conscientious hunter! :(
We get it Gmork, everybody here knows you're morally superior.
Thank you for your praise. LOL
Indeed, if an American hunter supports such hunting, then every European hunter is morally superior to him - tee-hee... O0
P.S. If a hunter hunts like this in an EU country and the hunting authority becomes aware of it, he will immediately lose his hunting license. And that is completely justified.
Period

I need to apologize.

I had typed up a response that I think was inappropriate.

I was going to say that regardless of tradition, or the amount of practice involved, taking shots at running game was about as irresponsible as it gets, as it increases the chance of leaving an animal wounded, crippled and suffering in the wild.

But then I thought "who am I to pass judgment on a hunter on another continent, who comes from an entirely different hunting culture? Who might even look at my own hunting practices with a disapproving eye?" So I removed the post I had made.

Maybe others could benefit from such self-evaluation.
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Re: Trusty 512 knocked another big Wild Boar down
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2021, 02:48:04 PM »
Hunting deer with dogs is like shooting fish in a barrel................

but that is my opinion.
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Re: Trusty 512 knocked another big Wild Boar down
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2021, 05:05:20 PM »
Hunting deer with dogs is like shooting fish in a barrel................

but that is my opinion.
Agreed. Driving animals isn't hunting, it's killing.

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Re: Trusty 512 knocked another big Wild Boar down
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2021, 01:53:27 PM »
The boys did a great job. Nice pictures.
As far as I understand the first post, none of the boys shot the boar, but the adult companion or father. 
But no matter whether he was a father or a companion, he was a very bad role model for the boys as a responsible and conscientious hunter! :(
We get it Gmork, everybody here knows you're morally superior.
Thank you for your praise. LOL
Indeed, if an American hunter supports such hunting, then every European hunter is morally superior to him - tee-hee... O0
P.S. If a hunter hunts like this in an EU country and the hunting authority becomes aware of it, he will immediately lose his hunting license. And that is completely justified.
Period

I need to apologize.

I had typed up a response that I think was inappropriate.

I was going to say that regardless of tradition, or the amount of practice involved, taking shots at running game was about as irresponsible as it gets, as it increases the chance of leaving an animal wounded, crippled and suffering in the wild.

But then I thought "who am I to pass judgment on a hunter on another continent, who comes from an entirely different hunting culture? Who might even look at my own hunting practices with a disapproving eye?" So I removed the post I had made.

Maybe others could benefit from such self-evaluation.
I appreciate that, as cultures and circumstances vary. As Christ said, if they are not against us, they are for us. Hunters would do well to be unified in our dwindling mass. 

The State Biologists tell us to shoot every Wild Hog we see and even let em lay.  They are an Invasive Species that we did not have just a decade ago; they take food the deer would normally eat, root up USACE Levees that hold back the Mississippi River from flooding Urban Populations and charge hunters afield.

I cut another 6 over the last two weeks, knowing there will be 5x less than that in the woods next season because they were not allowed to populate.

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Re: Trusty 512 knocked another big Wild Boar down
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2021, 03:30:26 PM »
My words were a bit tongue-in-cheek, and I think my point was lost on the intended ears. But anyway, yeah we need to stick together.

On the hogs, I have hunted wild pigs for over 20 years. I have seen the local herd go up and down in size for a variety of reasons, but the main reason is commercial trapping. There are hog buying stations near me, and apparently a fair market for them as so many people are trapping them and taking them to sell. Though, some of these guys I know might consider the price of a case of beer to be enough reason to go to such trouble.

I have seen them in herds of over a hundred in the past, but in more recent years much less than that. My neighbor thinks we need to wipe them out, but I sort of like having them to extend my hunting season a bit....though they do over-populate very quickly. Ive shot young piglets and cooked them whole, but the older ones I usually grind up into breakfast sausage, and my efforts on that are sort of hit and miss (good one time, not so much another)
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Re: Trusty 512 knocked another big Wild Boar down
« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2021, 08:05:05 PM »
My words were a bit tongue-in-cheek, and I think my point was lost on the intended ears. But anyway, yeah we need to stick together.

On the hogs, I have hunted wild pigs for over 20 years. I have seen the local herd go up and down in size for a variety of reasons, but the main reason is commercial trapping. There are hog buying stations near me, and apparently a fair market for them as so many people are trapping them and taking them to sell. Though, some of these guys I know might consider the price of a case of beer to be enough reason to go to such trouble.

I have seen them in herds of over a hundred in the past, but in more recent years much less than that. My neighbor thinks we need to wipe them out, but I sort of like having them to extend my hunting season a bit....though they do over-populate very quickly. Ive shot young piglets and cooked them whole, but the older ones I usually grind up into breakfast sausage, and my efforts on that are sort of hit and miss (good one time, not so much another)
Roger that. I used to keep everyone, the 1st boar I killed charging me & all I had was a Compound Bow (that’ll get you online!) and tastes sweet like he been eating Sugarcane.  We’ve stuffed the small ones full of boudin, wrapped in bacon & grilled. My family had a bad experience on one that had a bad taste, then the last ones I drug out to give away filled my boat with 1K ticks & couldn’t give em away. After seeing all the [emoji3544] warnings (use gloves when cleaning, don’t get their blood in your cut skin, some carry disease, make sure the temp is hot enough when cooking) we just cut and let em lay now. 
My son & I have run into as many as 50-80 in one pack, and regularly see them in packs of 12-20. I’ve been charged by boars on more than one occasion, but have been fortunate to jump up on a fallen tree and avoid getting cut; literally like combat.
Our Wildlife Biologist are glad every time I relay a kill, they say “kill em all”.  It’s definitely not as easy as some may think, as we hunt Public Land in the swamps of Louisiana and cannot bait; they are very intelligent.

Where are you from?