SAR vs Canik quality?

[Moken]

https://www.theshootingstore.com/single-product?product_id=215378&ref=shop
This is the one I noticed.

[DF_Hammack]

Two importers dropping Sarsilmaz in short order begs the question, why? I was in contact with EAA in praise of my B6P, and they were very complimentary of my comments, but soon after that dropped them. TR carried them for less than a year. Is it just the unreasoning prejudice against Turkish guns? Or is there something we don't know? As I have said, I am well pleased with my B6P, so I don't think it has much to do with product quality.

[rabble_rouser]

Two importers dropping Sarsilmaz in short order begs the question, why? I was in contact with EAA in praise of my B6P, and they were very complimentary of my comments, but soon after that dropped them. TR carried them for less than a year. Is it just the unreasoning prejudice against Turkish guns? Or is there something we don't know? As I have said, I am well pleased with my B6P, so I don't think it has much to do with product quality.

I'm inclined to believe you've got it backwards. Sarsilmaz and EAA seem to have been on rocky terms for the past couple of years, with the break finally coming this year. I'm almost certain that TR Imports was meant (by Sarsilmaz) to only be an interim importer while they got things ironed out for what they were really after: an importer who understood what they wanted and could offer to the US market. SAR-USA is an offshoot of UTAS-USA, a Turkish company primarily concerned with tactical shotguns and weapons designs.

One thing I'm hopeful for is that unlike EAA, with SAR-USA we may finally be able to get parts for our SAR handguns 

If/when I find out anything more I'll be sure to post up either here or in a new post.

[DF_Hammack]

Actually, that makes sense. EAA wouldn't hold with them long enough for SAR to get their distribution network in place. But really, I got profuse thanks and some really cool promo items for my comments. Maybe they were just trying to get rid of the promo materials  LOL Well, they still promote Sarsilmaz and not EAA.

[Moken]

Looks like I should stay w Canik for now. Tristar seems serious in their support.

[DF_Hammack]

I haven't needed service from Tristar, but have contacted customer relations several times and was pretty impressed with the friendly, attentive representatives. If SAR is launching their own distribution, I would bet they are going to pay particular attention to customer service, at least in the short term, and once a habit is initiated, it usually sticks. I would be encouraged.

[Rcher]

https://www.theshootingstore.com/single-product?product_id=215378&ref=shop
This is the one I noticed.

I have this model since July and run about 1000 rounds with no single failure.
I'm very pleased with Sarsilmaz Mega, it has very light SA trigger and pistol fits my hand like a glove.

[Rcher]

Thinking about service - I suppose most important parts are interchangeable with Witness small frame (for example slide lock, recoil springs...).
So, if I need to replace them - I can order from EAA site. It would be great if Sarsilmaz spare parts were officially available here in US.

[DF_Hammack]

I understand Cajun Gun Works has fair parts support for Tristar/Canik, but I am not sure about SAR. I expect with SAR opening their own US distribution, you will see improved parts support for them as well. SOME CZ and SOME Witness parts are interchangeable between SAR's and Tristars, but it is anything but a safe bet.

[Moken]

Thinking about service - I suppose most important parts are interchangeable with Witness small frame (for example slide lock, recoil springs...).
So, if I need to replace them - I can order from EAA site. It would be great if Sarsilmaz spare parts were officially available here in US.

thanks for the input. It is a sweet looking pistol.
Does it use common CZ magazines?

[DWARREN]

I use CZ 75B mags in my Sar B6P and Witness P S 9mm pistols and they work well. Also use the Mec-Gar CZ mags.

[rabble_rouser]

Thinking about service - I suppose most important parts are interchangeable with Witness small frame (for example slide lock, recoil springs...).
So, if I need to replace them - I can order from EAA site. It would be great if Sarsilmaz spare parts were officially available here in US.

Unfortunately that's not the case. While some parts might be comparable, EAA will want the serial number from a Witness pistol 'to ensure compatibility'. Pretty sure they won't sell Witness parts for installation in other mfg.'s pistols.

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[larryflew]

IMO SAR is now where Canik was years ago. They must have gone through a half dozen distributors in the first few years. Have a Canik 50 from the first distributor that was around for something like 4 months. No problems so far and very well built gun. Have a SAR 45 from early days also and same quality and also no problems so far. Have not fired near as many rounds through the SAR 45 as I have with the 9mm Canik. The 50 is basically a PCR with a safety. Alloy frame and this one is done in hard chrome and my usual carry. Although I do have an IWB holster for the SAR its a bit heavy even though I don't usually mind heavy and have carried 1911 without weight problems.

[jwc007]

I would call it a draw as far as product quality is concerned.  Both are excellent!

I have three Sarsilmaz Pistols and two Canik made Pistols.  My Canik made Pistols are the original TP9 and a TriStar T-120.  My Sarsilmaz Pistols are the B6P, K2P< and K2-45.

All of them continue to provide excellent service.  My Canik TP9 is a favorite Carry and Home Defense Pistol and I used to carry my SAR K2P often.  I love shooting my TriStar/Canik T-120 in IPSC Matches.
The SAR B6P has been a favorite Range beater and has often been lent to Basic Pistol Course Students, whose Pistols may have broken or just need something to shoot, if they want something more potent then my .22LR Ruger Mk II.

As for a current Importer, SAR USA will eventually be getting it's operation going, carrying the full line of Sarsilmaz Firearms.  http://www.sarusa.com/

From what I have read, TriStar Customer Service has been excellent.  Have not needed any as yet.

[darink300zx]

I agree with what's already been said they are both great imo.  I have several caniks (t100, p100, t120, p120, s120, shark fc, tp9sa) and a couple SARs (b6p and k245) and all are good solid pistols with only a couple issues with the finish on the t100.  I would have one of the SAR mega in stainless (aka previously imported SAR b6 hawk) but I was kind of waiting for them to get under 400. 

My thoughts on the SAR/EAA break is that the SAR pistols were going to (or already were) steal sales away from the witness line so EAA only imported the SAR pistols that were a little different than the witness line.  For instance the b6p and the witness ps are almost identical other than the accessory rail on the witness.  Anyway, as others mentioned SAR probably wants to bring in their entire line and EAA didn't.  Good for SAR to try to do it on their own, I wish them success.  I could see them doing very well with their entire line available here. 

The B6P is one of my favorite CZ75 type pistols and I'd be hard pressed to get rid of it over some, if not most, of my caniks.  Take that for what it's worth.