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Offline Underwhere

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Re: My Pre-B refinishing and modification diary
« Reply #105 on: March 10, 2018, 10:42:22 PM »
OK.
I cleaned and coated the parts again tonight just a few minutes ago.

My wife produced the wax melter from our Xmas stuff.

Here is a small pan filled with water in my cardboard sweatbox.

Im hopeful it will be fine and also that my house doesn't catch fire while we sleep.

Pics are if the blobs of darkness. I wonder if that's poor application of rusting solution or whether it's just something that will even out as I continue.


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Re: My Pre-B refinishing and modification diary
« Reply #106 on: March 10, 2018, 11:19:14 PM »
If you don't get a decent coat of rust this cycle, I would hit it with Evaporust and start fresh. I don't think those spots will even out, sorry.

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« Reply #107 on: March 10, 2018, 11:30:48 PM »
If you don't get a decent coat of rust this cycle, I would hit it with Evaporust and start fresh. I don't think those spots will even out, sorry.
Thanks. Will do. Not too concerned about starting over. It's not like I have a deadline. Just looking to learn something new.

 If i do start over, I'll probably go with a different rusting solution. Mark Lee's instructions don't coincide with most people's experiences here so I may as well use what I have the most support with.



Here it is after 2 hours of my makeshift sweatbox.
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Re: My Pre-B refinishing and modification diary
« Reply #108 on: March 10, 2018, 11:47:25 PM »
If you don't get a decent coat of rust this cycle, I would hit it with Evaporust and start fresh. I don't think those spots will even out, sorry.
Thanks. Will do. Not too concerned about starting over. It's not like I have a deadline. Just looking to learn something new.

 If i do start over, I'll probably go with a different rusting solution. Mark Lee's instructions don't coincide with most people's experiences here so I may as well use what I have the most support with.



Here it is after 2 hours of my makeshift sweatbox.
I still think there's hope. I look back to pics I have of the blotches and they seem to move around. So I hope that means my subsequent rustings have evened out those areas but have perhaps created new ones. And even a better hope is that once the gun starts to really resist rust that it may all start to even out.

One can hope.

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Re: My Pre-B refinishing and modification diary
« Reply #109 on: March 11, 2018, 07:07:48 AM »
I've found Laurel Mountain's solution to be the easiest to use. They also have the cheapest shipping and overall price IIRC.

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Re: My Pre-B refinishing and modification diary
« Reply #110 on: March 11, 2018, 07:23:18 AM »
Have you watched the MosinVirus video on YouTube about rust bluing? If not, perhaps it may help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQjU1ncwGPE
I think I did a while ago.
I just think my Mark Lee express blue instructions are a very different process.

But I'll go watch again. It can't hurt.

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Re: My Pre-B refinishing and modification diary
« Reply #111 on: March 11, 2018, 07:23:37 AM »
I've found Laurel Mountain's solution to be the easiest to use. They also have the cheapest shipping and overall price IIRC.

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OK I'll try that next time.

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Re: My Pre-B refinishing and modification diary
« Reply #112 on: March 11, 2018, 08:24:59 AM »
So after a night of sitting in my homemade sweat box it doesn't look like a lot of rust happened. Flash makes it look very rusty.

So I'm not too optimistic anymore.
I'll boil and card to see what happens.

If it still doesn't look good then I'll just continue with the sloppy propane torch way of doing things a few more times just to see if any of the blotches fill in or more. I figure if I'm going to reblue it, why not just follow the Mark Lee instructions through to completion (6 to 10 rustings)

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Re: My Pre-B refinishing and modification diary
« Reply #113 on: March 11, 2018, 09:37:11 AM »
Regardless of your chosen product or method virtually every tutorial will be lacking to some degree. Reviewing numerous tutorials carefully can provide a good level of detail if the parts of the puzzle all seem to fit. One thing for certain is that as soon as the video host holds up their bottle of MiracleBlu BrandX is that you don't need to waste any more time there. Unless you really have nothing better to do. And good info for slow rust bluing is pretty limited.
  In the end, only you can decide if your results are up to your standards or if they are progressing satisfactorily, or if you'd rather go back and try something differently. Yours is the only opinion that really matters in this case.
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Re: My Pre-B refinishing and modification diary
« Reply #114 on: March 11, 2018, 09:40:34 AM »
Regardless of your chosen product or method virtually every tutorial will be lacking to some degree. Reviewing numerous tutorials carefully can provide a good level of detail if the parts of the puzzle all seem to fit. One thing for certain is that as soon as the video host holds up their bottle of MiracleBlu BrandX is that you don't need to waste any more time there. Unless you really have nothing better to do. And good info for slow rust bluing is pretty limited.
  In the end, only you can decide if your results are up to your standards or if they are progressing satisfactorily, or if you'd rather go back and try something differently. Yours is the only opinion that really matters in this case.
Good advice.
My brother who is usually very particular about his guns says that he would be OK with my current results.

Personally I just want to understand how this all works so I can do it a second and third time with improvements over my first.

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Re: My Pre-B refinishing and modification diary
« Reply #115 on: March 11, 2018, 10:29:40 AM »
Regardless of your chosen product or method virtually every tutorial will be lacking to some degree. Reviewing numerous tutorials carefully can provide a good level of detail if the parts of the puzzle all seem to fit. One thing for certain is that as soon as the video host holds up their bottle of MiracleBlu BrandX is that you don't need to waste any more time there. Unless you really have nothing better to do. And good info for slow rust bluing is pretty limited.
  In the end, only you can decide if your results are up to your standards or if they are progressing satisfactorily, or if you'd rather go back and try something differently. Yours is the only opinion that really matters in this case.
I hope I haven't offended anybody here. Other opinions do matter when they're asked for. Standards are one thing, whether something is done correctly or successfully is another.

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Re: My Pre-B refinishing and modification diary
« Reply #116 on: March 11, 2018, 10:32:29 AM »
Regardless of your chosen product or method virtually every tutorial will be lacking to some degree. Reviewing numerous tutorials carefully can provide a good level of detail if the parts of the puzzle all seem to fit. One thing for certain is that as soon as the video host holds up their bottle of MiracleBlu BrandX is that you don't need to waste any more time there. Unless you really have nothing better to do. And good info for slow rust bluing is pretty limited.
  In the end, only you can decide if your results are up to your standards or if they are progressing satisfactorily, or if you'd rather go back and try something differently. Yours is the only opinion that really matters in this case.
I hope I haven't offended anybody here. Other opinions do matter when they're asked for. Standards are one thing, whether something is done correctly or successfully is another.

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I don't believe you have. You've been extremely helpful.

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Re: My Pre-B refinishing and modification diary
« Reply #117 on: March 11, 2018, 04:22:13 PM »
Regardless of your chosen product or method virtually every tutorial will be lacking to some degree. Reviewing numerous tutorials carefully can provide a good level of detail if the parts of the puzzle all seem to fit. One thing for certain is that as soon as the video host holds up their bottle of MiracleBlu BrandX is that you don't need to waste any more time there. Unless you really have nothing better to do. And good info for slow rust bluing is pretty limited.
  In the end, only you can decide if your results are up to your standards or if they are progressing satisfactorily, or if you'd rather go back and try something differently. Yours is the only opinion that really matters in this case.



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« Reply #118 on: March 11, 2018, 04:37:36 PM »
Sorry about that repeat thing. Trying to get the hang of tapatalk so that I can post some content and get ready to post one of my own project journeys. I think you're dong great with it and certainly don't see where anyone would be offended in the least.  I have a project that I'd earlier asked for some advice on and intend to try and post it's outcome. But no matter what advice was offered it's still my project and I alone have to live with the outcome whether pass, fail, or meh.
  Below is my first attempt at this sort of work:

  It was a pretty beat up 'poor' condition that had lots of exterior abuse, and no finish. I really had to work it down to clean it up. I filed/sanded the flats and head blasted the contours. The small parts were only given Oxpho. This had the old style front sight which was milled for a dovetail and replaced by a Dawson from CGW.
  I was pleased with the overall result and have another in the works. I did some work with the beavertail but wanted something a bit different for the next one.  I'll start it's own thread after the weather warms up enough to do the bluing in the shed. 


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Re: My Pre-B refinishing and modification diary
« Reply #119 on: March 11, 2018, 04:44:10 PM »
Sorry about that repeat thing. Trying to get the hang of tapatalk so that I can post some content and get ready to post one of my own project journeys. I think you're dong great with it and certainly don't see where anyone would be offended in the least.  I have a project that I'd earlier asked for some advice on and intend to try and post it's outcome. But no matter what advice was offered it's still my project and I alone have to live with the outcome whether pass, fail, or meh.
  Below is my first attempt at this sort of work:

  It was a pretty beat up 'poor' condition that had lots of exterior abuse, and no finish. I really had to work it down to clean it up. I filed/sanded the flats and head blasted the contours. The small parts were only given Oxpho. This had the old style front sight which was milled for a dovetail and replaced by a Dawson from CGW.
  I was pleased with the overall result and have another in the works. I did some work with the beavertail but wanted something a bit different for the next one.  I'll start it's own thread after the weather warms up enough to do the bluing in the shed. 


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That looks great. Glad you got the Tapatalk stuff working too.