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CZ LONG ARMS => VZ-58 semi auto rifle => Topic started by: rbgonoles on November 20, 2014, 08:42:31 PM
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Very very Nice! 8) Congratulations! :)
Excellent Photography! :)
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Thanks! I love these VZ2008s :) I wanted to keep one original military and the other to modify. I've got a Bushnell red dot coming for the upper rail. Just a blast to shoot!
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very nice indeed :)
where did you get the beaver barf butt stock?
I have been thinking I need one, although they are to short without a pad. I do really like the look thou 8)
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very nice indeed :)
where did you get the beaver barf butt stock?
I have been thinking I need one, although they are to short without a pad. I do really like the look thou 8)
Ebay is usually the cheapest location. A couple people in Czech sell them.
I paid $40 shipped for stocks last year, they are around $70 shipped now.
Still beats $130+shipping at czechpoint.
Just make sure the description says includes hardware!
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Maybe we can keep this thread going with more photos?!
Here's mine before the muzzle brake and bakelite stock:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7402/11443325665_1a7220f88f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ird33n)
A member over on Gunboards (SPaxspore):
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(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5513/11225041773_2c78309017_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/i6VgQZ)
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Sweet pics!
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very nice indeed :)
where did you get the beaver barf butt stock?
I have been thinking I need one, although they are to short without a pad. I do really like the look thou 8)
Ebay is usually the cheapest location. A couple people in Czech sell them.
I paid $40 shipped for stocks last year, they are around $70 shipped now.
Still beats $130+shipping at czechpoint.
Just make sure the description says includes hardware!
^^^^^this! Czech seller for $40 shipped about 8 or nine months ago. Should have bought 2 or 3.
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and I agree keep this going...I know there's people out there that got their new toy recently, show us some gun porn.
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Keeping the picture thread going. He's one of my not 2008's. A CSA 58's. ;)
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very nice indeed :)
where did you get the beaver barf butt stock?
I have been thinking I need one, although they are to short without a pad. I do really like the look thou 8)
Here you go:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Stock-Metal-Parts-for-Vz-58-Czechoslovakia-Unused-New-/291303410540?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43d3094b6c
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First post, first pic, new arrival:
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What mine has become:
(http://i.imgur.com/R2C7bRtl.jpg) (https://imgur.com/R2C7bRt)
Vz2008 with upgrades
BoneSteel upper and lower front handguards
Mako Pistol Grip
Mako Folding Adjustable Stock
Slovakian Muzzle Break
Hammers Red/Green Dot Sight
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Keeping the picture thread going. He's one of my not 2008's. A CSA 58's. ;)
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i302/Master_Mold/DSC01590_zpsb8bcd0f8.jpg) (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/Master_Mold/media/DSC01590_zpsb8bcd0f8.jpg.html)
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Nice "Not" 2008 ;)....cool to represent your colors...and the csa not afraid of gettin dirty
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This is who I got my stock from...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stock-hardboard-metal-parts-type-vz-58-sa-58-sa58-Czechoslovakia-new-unused-/151459375710?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2343aeaa5e
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That is a real nice rifle 8)
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Thanks!
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Mine and my wife's VZ's.(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w176/dani1083_2007/20141129_120947_zpsou0u832l.jpg) (http://s176.photobucket.com/user/dani1083_2007/media/20141129_120947_zpsou0u832l.jpg.html)(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w176/dani1083_2007/20141129_120933_zpsupcdurmd.jpg) (http://s176.photobucket.com/user/dani1083_2007/media/20141129_120933_zpsupcdurmd.jpg.html)
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Very nice. Which of the fore end covers do you like best?
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Very nice. Which of the fore end covers do you like best?
Of the two we have I prefer the fab one on mine over the quad rail on my wife's. To get to her piston you have to take out 4 screws, whereas mine is just the takedown pin.
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Appreciate that pointer. I like the look of the FAB Defense one better too.
Has anyone mounted a light directly to the barrel? If so, I'd like to see a picture of that setup.
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Hey Chop. Which AR stock mount is that?
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Hey Chop. Which AR stock mount is that?
The one on my wife's rifle (black) is a storm works (?) Adapter. I can't remember the manufacturer of the one on my rifle but I did get it from a fellow member on this forum so maybe they will chime in? I can tell you I do like the one on my rifle better because it has an ambi sling attachment whereas the storm works on my wife's rifle does not, it doesn't have a sling attachment at all.
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The current VZ family.
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Hey Chop. Which AR stock mount is that?
The one on my wife's rifle (black) is a storm works (?) Adapter. I can't remember the manufacturer of the one on my rifle but I did get it from a fellow member on this forum so maybe they will chime in? I can tell you I do like the one on my rifle better because it has an ambi sling attachment whereas the storm works on my wife's rifle does not, it doesn't have a sling attachment at all.
Is it one of the Rauche Tactical ones?
Like here: http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=23451.0
Or here: https://www.canadaammo.com/product/detail/multiheight-stock-adaptor-for-vz58-cz858/
FWIW, wish they still made this.
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Hey Chop. Which AR stock mount is that?
The one on my wife's rifle (black) is a storm works (?) Adapter. I can't remember the manufacturer of the one on my rifle but I did get it from a fellow member on this forum so maybe they will chime in? I can tell you I do like the one on my rifle better because it has an ambi sling attachment whereas the storm works on my wife's rifle does not, it doesn't have a sling attachment at all.
Is it one of the Rauche Tactical ones?
Like here: http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=23451.0
Or here: https://www.canadaammo.com/product/detail/multiheight-stock-adaptor-for-vz58-cz858/
FWIW, wish they still made this.
Yes RSR, that's exactly what it is! It is way better than the storm works adapter.
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(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k534/Airacuda1/imagejpg1.jpg)
The current VZ family.
love that plain Jane 08 with the muzzle break. ;)
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Very nice. I plan on doing one of my VZ2000s like this. Cone style muzzle attachment (purchased, but not yet attached) on the VZ2000 original Czech barrel, and stock bi-pod (on the way from RSR) with the original Czech BB furniture. The only thing missing would be the long optics rail that hangs over the stock.
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Ignore the high ring, that setup is for my AR. I have a low ring on order along with the CSA side mount kit.
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NICE! Get thee TBR, IMHO it is a MMR.
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NICE! Get thee TBR, IMHO it is a MMR.
TBR, MMR? Please explain.
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TBR is tactical bolt release. Not sure about the MMR. But am guessing it's a brand of mag release. But that wouldn't make sense, based on CP's statement.
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Oh ok, thanks. Not sure if I would need the TBR for the price they are asking but, it would be nice to have.
TBR is tactical bolt release. Not sure about the MMR. But am guessing it's a brand of mag release. But that wouldn't make sense, based on CP's statement.
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I felt the same way on the price. But I want a weapon that is fast to handle. I always try to emphasize easy-to-work controls on my guns. So I knew when I bought it I'd need to change things a bit.
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NICE! Get thee TBR, IMHO it is a MMR.
TBR, MMR? Please explain.
Sorry, stupid on my side. I hate typing. The vz58 tactical bolt release should be a minimum mandatory requirement in my humble opinion - operating charging handles is a burden.
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NICE! Get thee TBR, IMHO it is a MMR.
TBR, MMR? Please explain.
Sorry, stupid on my side. I hate typing. The vz58 tactical bolt release should be a minimum mandatory requirement in my humble opinion - operating charging handles is a burden.
Agree 100%.
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NICE! Get thee TBR, IMHO it is a MMR.
TBR, MMR? Please explain.
Sorry, stupid on my side. I hate typing. The vz58 tactical bolt release should be a minimum mandatory requirement in my humble opinion - operating charging handles is a burden.
No worries, thank you.
I agree that it is nice to have but, my $ is going towards other upgrades first. Hopefully by then, there be more TBR options outv there.
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I agree that it is nice to have but, my $ is going towards other upgrades first. Hopefully by then, there be more TBR options outv there.
Each of us has their own requirements and drivers. Certainly for other functions, aesthetics and "the cool factor" there are plenty of other upgrades to consider. Been there, done that, there again, there still.
Being of the age group where the iron sights ofter become hard to find when driving a rifle toward a target esp. in certain lighting conditions, for me augmented target sighting is a top item and probably first on the list. Having said that, if you ever found yourself with the desire to change out mags quickly, the TBR (and TMR ) is priceless. IMO, the TBR/TMR combo should have been incorporated as part of the original Military Vzor 58 design - if not for G.I. Cannon-Fodder-Joe, certainly as a standard enhancement for Special Forces and Rapid Assault Teams.
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I agree Pete (can I call you Pete?) and I have no negatives to say about those upgrades (tbr, emr) as well as the "cool factor". Who doesn't like to personalize their firearms? I do but, its gotta be functional first, then aesthetics. Definitely should be a "factory issued" items. I have to D&T the side mount and get a mini dot or 4x scope (have not decided yet) and a muzzle device. Do you have a recommendation on which comp/flash hider works best on these?
As far as the mag release goes, I like what a member (can't remember who ) did with his trigger guard. He trimmed the left front off, making the release easily accessible. Might just buy a spare and try that mod.
I agree that it is nice to have but, my $ is going towards other upgrades first. Hopefully by then, there be more TBR options outv there.
Each of us has their own requirements and drivers. Certainly for other functions, aesthetics and "the cool factor" there are plenty of other upgrades to consider. Been there, done that, there again, there still.
Being of the age group where the iron sights ofter become hard to find when driving a rifle toward a target esp. in certain lighting conditions, for me augmented target sighting is a top item and probably first on the list. Having said that, if you ever found yourself with the desire to change out mags quickly, the TBR (and TMR ) is priceless. IMO, the TBR/TMR combo should have been incorporated as part of the original Military Vzor 58 design - if not for G.I. Cannon-Fodder-Joe, certainly as a standard enhancement for Special Forces and Rapid Assault Teams.
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The best user to ask about muzzle attachments may be RSR. He has probably done more review and testing in this area than most on here.
There isn't a lot of recoil with the VZ and this caliber, so your many choices in muzzle attachments include flash suppression as well as compensation. RSR started a thread for the Zendl brake group buy which might be worth your time to surf through: http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=65000.0
Also, depending on your finances and preference, putting a decent red dot on a top front rail, instead of the D&T side rail LIKE YOU ALREADY DID is a good option. Certainly for anything under 100 yards the field of view and red dot out front works great. with the quad-rail upgrade it would give you more "railestate" for lights grips etc. LIKE YOU HAVE
Just my thoughts.
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Thanks Pete,
It really does not have much felt recoil and quick follow up shots are easy, just figured it would not hurt to add a comp. I will search the topics as well as the link provided.
To be honest, I don't really care for a ton of rails. I just needed one for the fore grip, I have never loaded the HGs with lights, lasers, bipods, ect.... Also, I guess I'm used to having the optics closer to my eye therefor the reason for going with the side mount. I did shoot it with the red dot as you see it and it was fine so, that is definitely an option to keep in mind.
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CNCwarrior has a nice variety of hiders and brakes. I personally go with flash hiders. I may not get to choose what time I have to pop a cap in a Zombie. Bare or with a Muzzle brake you'll be blind after the 1st round if it's dark 30. Though it doesn't look like much in daylight, it will kill your night vision on the spot.
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I agree that it is nice to have but, my $ is going towards other upgrades first. Hopefully by then, there be more TBR options outv there.
Each of us has their own requirements and drivers. Certainly for other functions, aesthetics and "the cool factor" there are plenty of other upgrades to consider. Been there, done that, there again, there still.
Being of the age group where the iron sights ofter become hard to find when driving a rifle toward a target esp. in certain lighting conditions, for me augmented target sighting is a top item and probably first on the list. Having said that, if you ever found yourself with the desire to change out mags quickly, the TBR (and TMR ) is priceless. IMO, the TBR/TMR combo should have been incorporated as part of the original Military Vzor 58 design - if not for G.I. Cannon-Fodder-Joe, certainly as a standard enhancement for Special Forces and Rapid Assault Teams.
Bear in mind that the VZ58 was never really intended to be modernized from its current form... It's replacement was always to be the Lada/CZ 2000 and eventually that became the Bren. The 5.56 VZ58 didn't come about until after CZ-UB sold the manufacturing rights to Czech Small Arms...
Regarding history, the VZ58 was developed in 1956 or so to replace the VZ52. The only major change that appears to have insisted upon by the Soviets (Warsaw Pact only being formed a year earlier and still working out its kinks) was the standardization in 7.62x39 Russian rather than the 7.62x45 Czech (in brief, the Czechs were right and had they kept that cartridge I'm convinced the VZ58 would be considered the best assault rifle in history, nonpariel. As is it is simply recognized as one of the best but will always be overshadowed by the Kalashnikov and AR just due to their much wider proliferation... Regardless, 7.62x45 had ballistics similar to the 6.8 spc, and the 6.8spc's designer actually is really pushing the military, spec ops community, and others to adopt the 7x46 UIAC, Universal Intermediate Assault Cartridge, as the new standard. You can read more here: http://www.7x46mmuiac.com/ ).
Back to the Soviets and the VZ58... Looking at Vietnam, the Soviets realized our ARs sucked, but they saw the value of small caliber high velocity round. So they switched to the AK74 with the 5.45x39 (design began in 1967 and began military use in 1974). During the vietnam era, Eastern European members of the Warsaw Pact had a lot of mini-revolutions/uprisings/other attempts at lessening the Soviet Union's control over their countries' central government. In the Czech Republic, this happened in 1968. (Read more about the Prague Spring here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague_Spring ). The result of these uprisings is that the Soviets became more and more involved and controlling regarding all major decisions of its "allied" states. The Cold War also continued to escalate in its arms race and proxy wars... (VZ58s ending up being supplied to many of these soviet proxy forces.)
Here's the Czech main battle rifle history courtesy of Smalll Arms Defense Journal from that point to today:
Arrested Development
However, what was modern in the 1960s, in 1970s proved to be expensive and non-modifiable. As early as 1977 a program was thus started to design a modern replacement chambered for the smaller caliber bullet. In 1977 Miloslav Fisher of the Brno?s General Machine-Building Plants R&D Center (Vyzkumne vyvojovy ustav zavodu vseobecneho strojirenstvi) or VVU-ZVS (also known as the Prototypa Brno) started the ?Lada S? study, to examine the possibility of re-arming the CSLA with a domestically designed and manufactured rifle, chambered for the Soviet 5.45mm round. Several years of research and preparations resulted in green-lighting the design in 1984. The study?s cover name, Lada (a popular Slovakian female first name) became the cover name of the whole program, led by Bohumil Novotny. It aimed at creating the three gun ?family? of unified design small arms, consisting of a subcarbine with 185 mm long barrel, an automatic rifle with 382 mm barrel and a 577 mm barreled Light Support Weapon.
Thanks to the case deflector the spent cases are thrown clear to the front, enabling ambidextrous use despite the fixed ejection direction. (Martin Helebrant)
The similarity of the concept to the AK-74 family consisting of AKS-74U, AKS-74 and RPKS-74 was not at all accidental. The new Czechoslovak rifles were downright Kalashnikovian in both idea and detail. The only points different were the stiffer, slide-on / slide-off receiver cover, peep-style battle-sights, and the Galil-style thumb-operated safety-selector lever, but devoid of the AK-trademark long selector lever / cocking slot cover.
The design was ready by the end of 1985; prototypes were manufactured and tested in 1986. After many failures and recoveries the third generation of these was finally approved for production in November 1989. The new rifle was then running perfect, which sadly cannot be said for the state that commissioned it. In 1989 the Communist Bloc undermined by Gorbachev?s glasnost from one side, and Polish Communists sharing power with Solidarnosc opposition movement from the other, started to fall apart in a rapid ?domino theory? style. Then in late November and early December came Czechoslovakia?s turn. After several days of demonstrations, the Communist Party gave way and finally relinquished power in what became known as the Velvet Revolution.
Lada: The Little Orphan
As of February 1990, the Lada system was declared fit for production, but nobody was interested in it any longer. As the Czechoslovakian program did not involve production of the 5.45x39mm ammunition (as opposed to the Polish one), conversion to the 5.56x45mm was the only logical solution ? more so as the country?s ammunition provider, Sellier & Bellot in Vlasim, was already making the .223 Remington with M193-style FMJ and JSP bullets.
At first there was talk of ordering 300,000 new rifles and a tender was held to choose the system integrator and future manufacturer. The offer by Czeska Zbrojovka Uhersky Brod (CZUB), a 1936-established national arms maker, was given priority due to its rich experience in individual small-arms manufacture, including the Sa-58 and the vz.61 Skorpion machine pistol manufacture for the CSLA.
But the Army was penniless, and state (at that stage called the Czecho-Slovakia, after what came down in history as the ?hyphen war?) was now on the verge of separation, with political fire being stoked by extremists on either side of the national divide. Fortunately the ?hyphen war? was the only one fought there, and everything ended peacefully, in what was dubbed the Velvet Divorce. In 1992 the history of the Czechoslovakia was over after 74 years since November 1918, when Hungary?s and Austria?s Slavic lands were united, forming the new state under the influence of Thomas G. Masaryk, who became the first Czechoslovak president. As of January 1, 1993 there were two separate states: Slovakia and Czechia (Bohemia).
Now the new rifle was in dire straits indeed ? the smaller the army, the less chance to be manufactured in numbers. At the same time CZUB got privatized, and as a private enterprise it had to earn what it was to spend on the new rifle design ? not just draw it on the state?s budget, as previously. For five long years the Lada program got lost from the radar ? gone, but never forgotten.
Enter Mr. Findorak
After the NATO doors were cracked open with the Partnership for Peace, giving a renewed hope of the full membership soon, the NATO-caliber rifle program was once again hauled forth from the backburner. NATO-caliber ? but not the STANAG magazine: this conversion would have called for a wholesale re-designing of the receiver and so was deemed too expensive. The new Lada still had an AK-74 compatible magazine ? but was now chambered for the 5.56mm (even though the surviving samples are stamped ?.223?).
Several Czech designers and companies approached CZUB in the meantime, offering other rifles instead. One of them was Ladislav Findorak, ex-Army officer, who endorsed a delayed blowback system based on Soviet Anatoli Baryshev?s designs. This was a bold proposition ? a complete weapon family called LCZ, made up of the same design but different size building blocks, which put together were to give anything from automatic rifle up to a .50 cal. heavy machine gun and even a 30mm grenade machine gun. CZUB partly financed his scheme and tested the resulting weapons, but chose not to continue. Findorak then started his own company, known under the English-language name of Czech Weapons in Slavicin, but both partners parted on good terms, and CZUB was impressed with Findorak?s ability in weapon designing.
Other than Findorak, two other rifles were considered, one designed by a British team for another English-named Czech company, the Moravian Arms Company and the other option was license from Colt?s to manufacture AR-15 rifles (M16/M4). CZUB had great designs for the then struggling Colt, but all that was left of it was a less-than-spectacular Colt Z40 pistol ? and the starting of the CZ-USA subsidiary, who now owns Dan Wesson Firearms.
CZ 2000 vs. Project 805
The Army of the Czech Republic (Armada Ceske Republiky, ACR) was once again interested in the new rifle, but this interest eventually failed to bloom into contracts. The CZUB was now left with no other way than to develop the Lada and find a buyer ? if not at home, then abroad, trying to capitalize on the good standing of the CZ brand and the need for modern Kalashnikov derivatives in Western chambering. But to sell abroad the Lada needed a name that was (a) sexy and (b) involved ?CZ? to marry it to the brand. At the turn of the century ?2000? seemed to mesmerize buyers and sellers alike, bringing with it a promise of the modernity ? more so for what was in fact nothing more than a face-lifted AKM. Thus the CZ 2000 was born, sometime accompanied by the name Lada, sometimes not. The CZ 2000 was a name used only for PR. For in-house use, the whole ?Army Rifle Replacement? program was dubbed the Project 805, according to the new classification scheme, in which model numbers were assigned according to the nature of the product. Assault rifles and SMGs were assigned series 800 ? that?s why the civilian-legal Sa-58 was called the CZ 858, and the 9mm silenced Skorpion prototype with a fixed stock was the XCZ 861.
The New Rifle
It was only in late 2005 that CZUB decided to go whole hog and make their own rifle anew. The Army was not yet inclined to change the battle rifle for the entire military, but they nevertheless managed to buy a batch of Bushmaster M4A3s for the Special Forces. The situation could have slipped out of hand if the Army continued to re-arm itself piecemeal, instead of a large-scale re-armament ? so CZUB bolted into action. A totally new specification was drawn, finally putting the stillborn Lada to rest. The new rifle was first called the CZ XX, then CZ S805. The S stood for ?special? to differentiate it from regular CZ 805 (no S), being a tricked-out Lada carbine with rails all over and an ambidextrous selector lever, designed for India (but never bought).
This new design was meant to get CZUB to the forefront of the world?s rifle evolution, constituting a totally new multi-caliber modular platform ? much in the SCAR flavor. There were to be two sets of building blocks, one (with ?A? in model designation) for three intermediate rounds (5.56?45 mm, 6.8SPC and 7.62?39 mm), and the other (?B?) for rifle calibers ? and that?s not only 7.62?51 mm mind you, but .300 Win Mag as well. Each of these could have been fitted with three lengths of barrels, to became a Battle Rifle (?1? designator), CQB Carbine (?2?) or the DMR/LSW (?3?) fire support weapon. Thus a rifle in 5.56mm would be an A1, while a carbine in 7.62?51 mm would be a B2, and so on.
The Bren story continues: http://www.sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=1083
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/Cz2000-variants.jpg)
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Wikipedia on the LCZ B20
The AB-5.45, AB-7.62, AVB-7.62, and LCZ B20 are a series of weapons developed by Russian small arms designer Anatoly F. Baryshev from the 1960s to late 1990s. The mechanism developed by Baryshev allows the latter two of these light weapons to fire full powered rifle ammunition and still be controllable in automatic fire. Due to its firing from an open bolt, they were all unreliable under adverse conditions and inaccurate in single shots which tended to unsuccessfully slam-fire, otherwise the weapon would have apparently worked well. Another variant, the LCZ-B20 was developed in cooperation with Czech company LCZ Group, chambered in 7.62x51mm NATO, but sales were unsuccessful and it was apparently dropped in the late 1990s. However, the LCZ B20 formed the basis of an improved reliable derivative, the ?ZW-556 assault rifle and the ?ZW-762 light machine gun alternative developed by ?ZW.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVB-7.62
And the Czech Weapon guns are interesting (and I think probably better and more reliable than the roller delayed systems): http://www.czechweapons.com/en/products/military-weapons/assault-rifle-czw-556/
Point being on all of this was that there was relatively little development by mainstream Army as the VZ58s use continued more than 30 years beyond expected... Now Slovakia on the other hand has done some interesting development, and they reversed the charging handle and added the trigger finger mag release in addition to a full top rail. Ultimately this never went into production (CZUB is building a Bren factory in Slovakia for at least some components of production, something like a 3 hour drive between CZUB and this new factory....), but that isn't to say the Bren is superior... That discussion can be had over in the Bren forum...
Here are a few more pics of that modernized VZ I was able to rack down
(http://galerie.valka.cz/data/950/medium/Sa58MS.jpg) (http://galerie.valka.cz/showphoto.php/photo/158462)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1476126_692568270784113_2122612189_n.jpg?oh=45b44a203e0d9555a59e6bd559a5ba18&oe=54DB40C6&__gda__=1426720546_ad50020bc5a031d32507ae61fc43e679)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1476126_692568270784113_2122612189_n.jpg?oh=45b44a203e0d9555a59e6bd559a5ba18&oe=54DB40C6&__gda__=1426720546_ad50020bc5a031d32507ae61fc43e679http://)
(https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1491625_692568527450754_1459248647_n.jpg?oh=96db5f08ec944c6bf28c053870150772&oe=550852F6)
(https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/l/t1.0-9/988408_692568547450752_1460729078_n.jpg?oh=8fca349de755bf0896fc478be6579956&oe=54DD0D23)
I hope these help out some. Personally I would kill just to have a version of the stock they have on it, let alone the whole system.
Large version:
(http://www.valka.cz/galerie5/data/950/Sa58MK.jpg)
So other than the Slovakian Military, much of the VZ58 modernization has come through Canada and w/in the Czech Republic from civilian and/or special units needs best as I understand it.
GunExpert sells a polymer stock that was adopted by the Czech Military as was/were a variety of railed forends but I believe these were only limited purchases/upgrades (the Czech military is typically severely underfunded -- in fact, the reason the Bren beat the SCAR in their competition seems to be largely that CZUB promised domestic manufacture and a domestic business)... A lot of Mako, Zendl, GunExpert, KingGuns, Northeast Arms and other products have been approved for military use w/ Czech Armed and Police forces, but I haven't seen/read about any widespread/large military contracts with universal adoption of modernization products, etc. Then again, I don't read Czech, so...
Different configuration examples:
(http://www.ak-info.ru/foreign/vz58/vz58about/vz006.jpg)
(http://www.military-today.com/firearms/vz_58_l6.jpg)
(http://www.military-today.com/firearms/vz_58_l7.jpg)
So unsure what leverage folks get to decide their weapon selection... I do know of some units T&Eing the bren opted to carry a mix of VZ58s, Brens, M4s, etc, rather than just the Bren due to its issues... The version coming to the US Market is roughly the third generation if I follow the history correctly...
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As far as the mag release goes, I like what a member (can't remember who ) did with his trigger guard. He trimmed the left front off, making the release easily accessible. Might just buy a spare and try that mod.
Apex sells the single band version, actually the earliest generation, trigger guards. These guards connect with two rivets... If you shoot left handed that might make sense. .. If you're right, just buy an ambi mag release.
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Sweet Looking rifles!!!
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Thanks for that info, I will have to research that option.
I'm right handed but prefer to use my left to do the mag change (I have not tried the ambi releases, tho). On my AR I have a hard time reaching the mag release without changing my grip. At least with the VZ factory release, my strong hand grip does not change. Hmm, so many options. ...lol.
This thread needs more pics!
As far as the mag release goes, I like what a member (can't remember who ) did with his trigger guard. He trimmed the left front off, making the release easily accessible. Might just buy a spare and try that mod.
Apex sells the single band version, actually the earliest generation, trigger guards. These guards connect with two rivets... If you shoot left handed that might make sense. .. If you're right, just buy an ambi mag release.
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(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm268/nclpta/20150117_205616.jpg) (http://s298.photobucket.com/user/nclpta/media/20150117_205616.jpg.html)
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This thread needs photos! I took a couple quick pics to show a friend who just ordered one on my recommendation.
Ronin's grip, NEA handguards, CNC Warrior PFH:
(http://i58.tinypic.com/xqgk2d.jpg)
(http://i62.tinypic.com/rtzzvt.jpg)
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Very nice!
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(http://i.imgur.com/hjFLEgW.png)
with the bipod:
(http://i.imgur.com/d36Cp6t.png)
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http://youtu.be/cSPZpKzXGto
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CSA 58 frolicking (yes I said frolicking ;D )in the snow. O0
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i302/Master_Mold/DSC01843_zpsbap5jbsl.jpg) (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/Master_Mold/media/DSC01843_zpsbap5jbsl.jpg.html)
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i302/Master_Mold/DSC01847_zpsu5ch99mm.jpg) (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/Master_Mold/media/DSC01847_zpsu5ch99mm.jpg.html)
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i302/Master_Mold/DSC01846_zpss5ymefzg.jpg) (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/Master_Mold/media/DSC01846_zpss5ymefzg.jpg.html)
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8)
A Samopalcicle.
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http://youtu.be/cSPZpKzXGto
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Take that Century slant brake off your rifle, and it'll rotate less in your hands when shooting...
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Awesome model 58 Greg.
I ordered mine last week supposed to have it this wednesday.
Very Psyched. O0
This thread needs photos! I took a couple quick pics to show a friend who just ordered one on my recommendation.
Ronin's grip, NEA handguards, CNC Warrior PFH:
(http://i58.tinypic.com/xqgk2d.jpg)
(http://i62.tinypic.com/rtzzvt.jpg)
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Awesome model 58 Greg.
I ordered mine last week supposed to have it this wednesday.
Very Psyched. O0
Now there's a familiar username. Make sure you post some pics when you're done putting on all the stuff you bought for it, bro! I'm looking forward to doing some shooting with you.
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This thread needs photos! I took a couple quick pics to show a friend who just ordered one on my recommendation.
Ronin's grip, NEA handguards, CNC Warrior PFH:
(http://i58.tinypic.com/xqgk2d.jpg)
(http://i62.tinypic.com/rtzzvt.jpg)
What's a CNC Warrior PFH??
What do you have covering your folding stock?
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Phantom Flash Hider
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Yeah, Phantom Flash Hider and the stock has pipe insulation and vet bandage as in this post:
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=67039.0 (http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=67039.0)
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Thanks. That's the exact Flash hider I have to use on mine.
I'm heading to the vet tomorrow. Need to remember to see if I can get some vet wrap in FDE!
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There are a couple different brands of that cohesive bandage. They usually sell it anywhere they sell horse supplies. At the Tractor Supply near me they have a pretty wide range of colors and patterns.
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CZ858
(http://i.imgur.com/BZmrHt0h.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/xY5VHqxh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Ny3nK0Gh.jpg)
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I like it
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@PaskeCZ "CZ858"
Excellent example of the military standard Samopal Vzor58. Perfect finish color and BB.
Thanks for that picture series.
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@Sheepdog
Your "frolicking in the snow" VZ58 pics have lost their URL link. Would be nice if you would update for future viewing. Those are nice pics.
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(http://i.imgur.com/mKvtB8Rh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/XwCGgf5h.jpg)
And home made muzzle brake.
(http://i.imgur.com/C51v4dwh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/fhKPujgh.jpg)
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Very nice 8)
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Very nice, indeed. Thanks for posting.
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CSA 58 frolicking (yes I said frolicking ;D )in the snow. O0
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i302/Master_Mold/DSC01843_zpsbap5jbsl.jpg) (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/Master_Mold/media/DSC01843_zpsbap5jbsl.jpg.html)
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i302/Master_Mold/DSC01847_zpsu5ch99mm.jpg) (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/Master_Mold/media/DSC01847_zpsu5ch99mm.jpg.html)
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i302/Master_Mold/DSC01846_zpss5ymefzg.jpg) (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/Master_Mold/media/DSC01846_zpss5ymefzg.jpg.html)
Please fix the links? Those pics were nice.
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CSA 58 frolicking (yes I said frolicking ;D )in the snow. O0
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i302/Master_Mold/DSC01843_zpsbap5jbsl.jpg) (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/Master_Mold/media/DSC01843_zpsbap5jbsl.jpg.html)
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i302/Master_Mold/DSC01847_zpsu5ch99mm.jpg) (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/Master_Mold/media/DSC01847_zpsu5ch99mm.jpg.html)
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i302/Master_Mold/DSC01846_zpss5ymefzg.jpg) (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/Master_Mold/media/DSC01846_zpss5ymefzg.jpg.html)
Please fix the links? Those pics were nice.
Here. :) I recently got around to organizing my photobucket album. When I moved it from my "bucket" into an "album". It seems to have slightly changed the pics urls. Here's the new ones.
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i302/Master_Mold/my58/DSC01843_zpsbap5jbsl.jpg) (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/Master_Mold/media/my58/DSC01843_zpsbap5jbsl.jpg.html)
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i302/Master_Mold/my58/DSC01847_zpsu5ch99mm.jpg) (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/Master_Mold/media/my58/DSC01847_zpsu5ch99mm.jpg.html)
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i302/Master_Mold/my58/DSC01846_zpss5ymefzg.jpg) (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/Master_Mold/media/my58/DSC01846_zpss5ymefzg.jpg.html)
Here's one I didn't post before:
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i302/Master_Mold/my58/DSC01845_zpstryfjd0f.jpg) (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/Master_Mold/media/my58/DSC01845_zpstryfjd0f.jpg.html)
Bonus banana clip pic. O0
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i302/Master_Mold/my58/DSC01588_zps9d426929.jpg) (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/Master_Mold/media/my58/DSC01588_zps9d426929.jpg.html)
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update
(http://i.imgur.com/S1xlkXEl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/aqxXUZil.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/nbuDDwSl.jpg)
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(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/CitizenPete/447CB068-6E02-4F04-9FDC-FCCBB793C9B2_zpsxyxt5afg.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/CitizenPete/07E9F0A9-5E19-4D9A-8E25-535EAAE3BC29_zpsruadaco3.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/CitizenPete/8767FB41-0609-4A71-B0B1-D7451F932D8F_zpsthnki60w.jpg)
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Some of mine
(http://www.commonbullets.com/jalbum1/Guns%20Not%20Roses/VZ2008/slides/vz%202008_complete_05.jpg)
(http://www.commonbullets.com/jalbum1/Guns%20Not%20Roses/VZ2008/slides/vz%202008_complete_06.jpg)
(http://www.commonbullets.com/jalbum1/Guns%20Not%20Roses/VZ2008/slides/vz%202008_complete_07.jpg)
(http://www.commonbullets.com/jalbum1/Guns%20Not%20Roses/VZ2008/slides/vz%202008_complete_04.jpg)
(http://www.commonbullets.com/jalbum1/Guns%20Not%20Roses/VZ2008/slides/vz%202008_complete_03.jpg)
(http://www.commonbullets.com/jalbum1/Guns%20Not%20Roses/VZ2008/slides/vz%202008_complete_02.jpg)
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:P
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(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Bm4Gb11u4fk/VTw72Jp7czI/AAAAAAAAN00/pH2KcSy2oro/w1118-h632-no/IMAG2173.jpg)
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Now I can see how it looks with only NEA upper ;) have one in order 8)
But is lower than Kinggun dustcover rail :o
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Those are ALL absolutely magnificent.
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Now I can see how it looks with only NEA upper ;) have one in order 8)
But is lower than Kinggun dustcover rail :o
and it co-witnesses lower third perfectly. ;)
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(http://i.imgur.com/21N5xNUh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/mnYI2mOh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/fT9uA10h.jpg)
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My VZ2008 with recent mods:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/GAMBIT61/VZ2008%20002_zps3f1fnsz3.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/GAMBIT61/VZ2008%20004_zpsnoisjsqz.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/cMmq4QTh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/CMZCl1Jh.jpg)
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I apologize for crashing this thread, but I finally got the 50+ year old wood furniture on a Vz.58 variant.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/CitizenPete/B4752C3D-C20A-4633-A164-70B71349DB17_zps8zoho6ur.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/CitizenPete/3CB7E425-9188-453D-80DE-E9DBB5723C34_zps5i7rjhr6.jpg)
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CP...That furniture looks amazing! Did you refinish it or was that how it came? Really gives the VZ a refined look.
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CP...That furniture looks amazing! Did you refinish it or was that how it came? Really gives the VZ a refined look.
Thanks, they have been sitting on the bench for a while. Finally got them on. Was going for the old fashioned look, guess I need to beat up the vz2000 a bit.
The folding stock was easy to remove with heat and a 3/4" ratchet with screw drive socket.
Refinishing procedure with wet sand posted here: www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=70676.msg496403#msg496403
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Assembled a CAI Vz2000 today. Unfortunately this one needs work, as it does not cycle smoothly and is currently unreliable. Shot 100 rounds to break in. I may post another thread on the issues and results later after more tinkering.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/CitizenPete/28FDDC64-52B6-4A3C-92A8-552E54B87650_zps1kdnkn5i.jpg)
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Now with bipod and change the angle of the stock a bit upwards.
(http://i.imgur.com/hpsOuUbh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/PTrTLXQh.jpg)
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Here is an update on where mine is now, only changes still to be made are the bolt release, and some type of fiber optic/iron hybrid sight would be nice :D Current modifications: Fixed bakelite stock, knurled compensator, chrome gas piston, and Zendl mag release. Simple but handy
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8898/18315922798_d630298c3e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/tUvTJo)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/410/18505572061_70086aaa0e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ucgTRg)
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Finally got some pics taken of my vz2008's.
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk115/gmaniii/vz2008a_zpsxyrflrkx.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/gmaniii/media/vz2008a_zpsxyrflrkx.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk115/gmaniii/vz2008b_zpsbuuuqyot.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/gmaniii/media/vz2008b_zpsbuuuqyot.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk115/gmaniii/vz2008c_zpswlyf1hy1.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/gmaniii/media/vz2008c_zpswlyf1hy1.jpg.html)
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Very nice.
Can you explain:
-The para cord knot type and what that piece is inside the buttstock (paracord tie-off)
- what the grip is in pic 1
- what the grip is in pic 2/3
- what the bottom rails attachments are pic 2/3?
Very nice.
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Was wondering about grip 1 myself. Unusual lower rear. Very nice by the way. All of you 8)
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Thanks! I believe the knot is called a cobra stitch, in all honesty this is the first thing I've ever paracorded so don't hold me to that. It really breaks up the sharp edge of that stock. The piece woven in is a shackle. Like I said, this was my first paracording experience and while perusing the cord site I came across this shackle and thought that it would make a good clip point for a sling - and it does. Took a couple of tries to figure out how I liked it placed, but I'm happy with it. I started the paracord at the toe of the stock and worked towards the receiver, thinking it would give the shackle more strength by keeping that side of the wrap tighter - so far so good. Both grips are utilizing the Ace AR to AK grip adapter. One wears a Larue APEG and the other an Umbrella grip, both originally for an AR. I fit the adapters to the rifles first, then fit the AR grips to the adapter. They are both tight and secure, but I'm thinking about using some bedding compound to clean up the gaps around the VZ's grip retaining ring. The rails came out of a box of rails I have acculated from various AR builds. They were polymer and therefore easily shaped to fit the contours of the handguard. Pretty sure the extended rail on the side came from a Magpul MOE light kit.
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk115/gmaniii/vz2008d_zpsk5lx8qoh.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/gmaniii/media/vz2008d_zpsk5lx8qoh.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk115/gmaniii/shackle_zpsdbetdv1y.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/gmaniii/media/shackle_zpsdbetdv1y.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk115/gmaniii/vz2008f_zpsi5crcxwp.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/gmaniii/media/vz2008f_zpsi5crcxwp.jpg.html)
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Thanks! I believe the knot is called a cobra stitch, in all honesty this is the first thing I've ever paracorded so don't hold me to that. It really breaks up the sharp edge of that stock. The piece woven in is a shackle. Like I said, this was my first paracording experience and while perusing the cord site I came across this shackle and thought that it would make a good clip point for a sling - and it does. Took a couple of tries to figure out how I liked it placed, but I'm happy with it. I started the paracord at the toe of the stock and worked towards the receiver, thinking it would give the shackle more strength by keeping that side of the wrap tighter - so far so good. Both grips are utilizing the Ace AR to AK grip adapter. One wears a Larue APEG and the other an Umbrella grip, both originally for an AR. I fit the adapters to the rifles first, then fit the AR grips to the adapter. They are both tight and secure, but I'm thinking about using some bedding compound to clean up the gaps around the VZ's grip retaining ring. The rails came out of a box of rails I have acculated from various AR builds. They were polymer and therefore easily shaped to fit the contours of the handguard. Pretty sure the extended rail on the side came from a Magpul MOE light kit.
Great job all around. Very unique and clean look with function. Thanks for sharing.
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Finally got it painted, now to find the time to shoot it.(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f7/dootdootman/IMG_0062_zpsqnz2kny2.jpg)(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f7/dootdootman/IMG_0060_zpshno9duwt.jpg)(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f7/dootdootman/IMG_0059_zpspotvr1hq.jpg)
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Now I can see how it looks with only NEA upper ;) have one in order 8)
But is lower than Kinggun dustcover rail :o
Where are people sourcing the NEA upper?
EDIT: I guess maybe here? => http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_288_290&products_id=942
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;) The only store that sells them separately, I think ?
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gdogs_ very nice work on your rifles. I may have to try that cobra stitch on my folding stock.
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Finally got it painted, now to find the time to shoot it.[IMG]http://i44.photobucket.com/albums
Nice camo color blend and scope set up. Interesting angled front grip too.
Good job.
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The camo paint is Aervoe , i just sprayed freehand. The forward grip is made by Stark. I slit a piece of clear tubing and pushed it over the stock and then wrapped it with camo fabric tape. I used a Simmons pistol scope with a 20" eye relief.
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Updated pics... Fixed and accessorized vz2008 with mag wedge top rail, Czechpoint polymer Handgaurds (bottom stuffed with aluminum foil), King TBR and TMR (both working well no wiggle/ hang up), Fab stock with riser from Zahal (perfect cheek weld height for scope), Primary Arms 1x6, Zendl brake. Hours of Dremel action to get this CAI VzPOS to work correctly. Works very well now, even with Magwedge rail.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/CitizenPete/8B0D44DA-8DF6-470E-8CD8-6FB206637639_zpswq8npdsv.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/CitizenPete/D896A692-636D-4C24-8605-ADC2FE64B938_zpspmoffxvz.jpg)
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Black beauty 8)
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A couple pics from Saturday range day. A few more pics from the range posted on the forum "Day at the Range!" thread, here: http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=72775.0 (http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=72775.0)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/CitizenPete/0E1D2DBF-BCC0-48D0-91DD-745610310F8F_zpscscdtfbf.jpg)
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Awesome (again), CP! Do you use a Czech issued row boat when changing targets? ;D
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Mods can we make this a sticky? VZ porn should be seen daily 8)
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Mods can we make this a sticky? VZ porn should be seen daily 8)
Done! :)
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Awesome. Gotta love technology...... and those that know how to use it. Lol.
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A couple pics from Saturday range day. A few more pics from the range posted on the forum "Day at the Range!" thread, here: http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=72775.0 (http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=72775.0)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/CitizenPete/0E1D2DBF-BCC0-48D0-91DD-745610310F8F_zpscscdtfbf.jpg)
Where did you find that brake? thx
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Some on ebay. Cheaper than I paid for mine I think. It was only used on the rare night vision guns (same/only ones to get bipods to my understanding) to suppress flash from your optic -- doesn't suppress flash from folks viewing/looking for you.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-MUZZLE-THREAD-COVER-VZ58-VZ2008-NEVER-USED-TOTAL-SALES-/261970080419
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(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd29/Garys4598/CIMG6092_zpsqarh743f.jpg)
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Nice. Didn't realize the stock comb was adjustable. Did it also come with the butt pad?
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Nice. Didn't realize the stock comb was adjustable. Did it also come with the butt pad?
It came from CSA with neither. Both the cheek riser kit (for there are two different height risers) and the buttpad are available for purchase directly from ATI, the maker of the stock.
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Nice. Didn't realize the stock comb was adjustable. Did it also come with the butt pad?
It came from CSA with neither. Both the cheek riser kit (for there are two different height risers) and the buttpad are available for purchase directly from ATI, the maker of the stock.
Thanks. Two functional and very visually appealing additions IMHO. Mind if I copycat? :D
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Nice. Didn't realize the stock comb was adjustable. Did it also come with the butt pad?
It came from CSA with neither. Both the cheek riser kit (for there are two different height risers) and the buttpad are available for purchase directly from ATI, the maker of the stock.
Thanks. Two functional and very visually appealing additions IMHO. Mind if I copycat? :D
Copy all you want. This IS a virtual VZ.58 community; we should be sharing everything and anything that addresses possible improvements to this rifle's platform. ;)
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I made some changes to my folder - UTG buttpad, which I like a lot better than the shaved Apex one I was using; FAB PTK foregrip and VTS thumb rest; Primary Arms red dot sight.
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/rk9bbt.jpg)
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/2qw329d.jpg)
Awhile ago I got a curly cherry wood set for my other one.
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/hs41h5.jpg)
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vz-2008. replaced the folding stock with a beaverbarf stock from ebay and added the cnc warrior muzzle brake.
(https://i.imgur.com/XsX1yLi.jpg)
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Classic Czech Military configuration. Very nice. There is a VZ2000 in my collection in this original configuration as well. You don't see very many peeps configuring the original furniture any more. Good job. I would love to have one with the happy switch.
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yeah i like the classic look. i was thinking about getting wood furniture but the beaver barf really grew on me.
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Seeing as how the safety is the happy switch, all VZ2008 owners have them (haven't examined the CSA safeties but imagine they are modified from original). They just don't have the parts present to run happy...
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Gentlemen, I was looking at all of your photos.
VERY NICE !!!
much to me like a classic look with beech wooden furniture.
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(http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah267/gregorydearth/Mobile%20Uploads/20151110_113045_zpselglsaez.jpg)[/URL]
Zahal grip, Allen protective camo wrap, folding stock with added thickness via wrapped hydraulic hoze. Improved HK-type sling. VZ-2008.
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All the Century variants in the collection have been fixed to work while keeping the 922r list to ten. The pic below does not show the Fab Defense/Ronin grips added to the CAI VZ2008 58V variants.
...And just like fixing up a house before selling it, the cull will now begin in order to pay bills and perhaps acquire other (non vz58) guns on the bucket list. So I'm selling a few (or giving as gifts - already gifted one)
I thought some posted pics of the collection might be nice before they go off to new owners...
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/CitizenPete/B53B7AD2-9595-4168-BBD4-85AC09FD75BB_zpsvktcjnyg.jpg) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/CitizenPete/media/B53B7AD2-9595-4168-BBD4-85AC09FD75BB_zpsvktcjnyg.jpg.html)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/CitizenPete/FB5A1226-F30C-4BC4-8833-2396E7B77D5F_zpsizamnc9l.jpg) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/CitizenPete/media/FB5A1226-F30C-4BC4-8833-2396E7B77D5F_zpsizamnc9l.jpg.html)
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Wow, CP. Just Wow! :D
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Quite the collection! By the way, I have a birthday coming up! Just sayin'!
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thought id share my paint job.
olive drab & coyote krylon.
the stock is already scuffing the receiver back to black :-[ but i still like it O0
(http://i.imgur.com/4LNonEg.jpg)
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thought id share my paint job.
olive drab & coyote krylon.
the stock is already scuffing the receiver back to black :-[ but i still like it O0
Pretty cool looking. 8)
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All the Century variants in the collection have been fixed to work while keeping the 922r list to ten. The pic below does not show the Fab Defense/Ronin grips added to the CAI VZ2008 58V variants.
...And just like fixing up a house before selling it, the cull will now begin in order to pay bills and perhaps acquire other (non vz58) guns on the bucket list. So I'm selling a few (or giving as gifts - already gifted one)
I thought some posted pics of the collection might be nice before they go off to new owners...
This is the kind of 'hoarding' that I like to see!
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thought id share my paint job.
olive drab & coyote krylon.
the stock is already scuffing the receiver back to black :-[ but i still like it O0
(http://i.imgur.com/4LNonEg.jpg)
Looks good. Crinkle paper/plastic to apply the coyote; painting the crinkle and dabbing the gun? Sort of like faux marble painting on walls?
You can apply velcro (loop side) to receiver and paint that to protect, or use one of the camo paracords that matches your paint job to apply wrap stock where wearing...
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RSR,
I coyote for base layer then olive drabbed on top with leaf sections from this branch.
I will def deploy your velcro idea
(http://i.imgur.com/gk9KII0.jpg)
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Ah, now I see it. Thanks!
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(http://i64.tinypic.com/s4cb5x.png)
Somewhere in the pile ... At my next trip it is about to be fitted with a similar skeleton stock as the camo one & a compensator, so I'll be able to clock it easier ;)
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That is truly SA.vz.58 gun porn. :P Nicest "pile" of guns I've seen in a while.
Are they all Semi-Auto?
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Sadly all semi auto :(
Probably for the best as it was a beginners class so S-A was way safer as it is quite easy to push the safety into the full auto position by mistake (of course on those SA, it becomes a "dead position" and nothing fires).
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Froggy -- where are you located? That desert camo in the background looks slovakian, but the woodland looks polish.
And do all of your guns have the open eared front sights instead of the hooded? Most of the latest CSA production I've seen here have the trigger guard with the single loop, unprotected mag release, and the hooded front sight; neither of which I prefer.
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The pic was taken in the Czech Rep but the camo is French.
Those Vz are my friend's who I organise shooting W-E with. It is a mixed bag of hooded and semi hooded Mdls & I never paid too much attention to it to be fair . I try to take classes with as many different mdls as possible , ie : AK, Vz, mini beryl. My own rifle there is a M92 & only bought one of those Vz recently.
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Very cool. Can see that the desert is probably the French Desert/Daguet camo. That woodland doesn't look right for me for French (too soft of corners and coloring read Polish Pantera), but no doubt you have a better eye and more knowledge than me and it could just be the pic softening the edges in lower resolution and obviously indoor lighting.
M92s are nice -- have one of my own. Definitely recommend the 4 piece bulgarian/krink brake though. A little heavy, but makes a world of difference.
Thanks for sharing.
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My recently acquired VZ2008.
(http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj486/OldsmobileRacer/Firearms/VZ2008_zpsbnfivqcd.jpg) (http://s1264.photobucket.com/user/OldsmobileRacer/media/Firearms/VZ2008_zpsbnfivqcd.jpg.html)
Was impressed by how well it shot in comparison to my Arsenal so I decided make it my own by changing a few things up
(http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj486/OldsmobileRacer/Firearms/VZ2008%20RS_zpspuss7boc.jpg) (http://s1264.photobucket.com/user/OldsmobileRacer/media/Firearms/VZ2008%20RS_zpspuss7boc.jpg.html)
NOS fixed stock
TBR
Ambi mag release
"T" front sling loop
railed upper hand guard
ambi safety, not installed yet but I have already machined the receiver for it
Mantis brake
Bipod from RSR
Mojo rear peep sight
Aimpoint Pro in a Burris extreme 30mm low ring
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Acquired some new goggles and gloves for an extreme discount from Botach. Pleasantly surprised with how great the gloves work for shooting.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1694/26103501365_6d7a2db20f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FLFgwn)
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My new, unfired VZ58.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Bang/i-zHM46s8/0/XL/20160511_192837-XL.jpg)
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Love that black polymer furniture, nicest one after the original bakelite IMO ;)
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(http://shrani.si/f/3j/AZ/2hMBEx0D/132273291020951576019546.jpg)
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(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/DCopp/guns%20and%20gun%20stuff/KIMG0324_zpsq4lrjbol.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/DCopp/media/guns%20and%20gun%20stuff/KIMG0324_zpsq4lrjbol.jpg.html)
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(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd29/Garys4598/CIMG6092_zpsqarh743f.jpg)
My first post but I had to tell you Gary that with my first 2008 on the way I plan to model it after this one. So clean, nothing unnecessary, just a updated deadly looking version of the original. Nice Kowa as well, a man with very good tastes.
I will likely have to add an optic though...
Nick
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Finally took some pictures of the VZ58 family. They all started out as pistols.
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z110/Howlin_Mad_pics/VZs/1f59b7a1-a8a6-452b-a255-8c2a3583e928.jpg) (http://s194.photobucket.com/user/Howlin_Mad_pics/media/VZs/1f59b7a1-a8a6-452b-a255-8c2a3583e928.jpg.html)
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z110/Howlin_Mad_pics/VZs/fd9a33e0-1429-4f9a-88cc-08d6f43a1bbc.jpg) (http://s194.photobucket.com/user/Howlin_Mad_pics/media/VZs/fd9a33e0-1429-4f9a-88cc-08d6f43a1bbc.jpg.html)
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Nice. Surprised you went with 2 556 VZ rifles, instead of the Bren. ... Or perhaps you have a Bren as well. Nice set ups and buttstocks.
How you like the Lucid Red dot? I'm using it on a Saiga12 for 3gun right now, and the dot is a bit tight (MOA).
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Nice. Surprised you went with 2 556 VZ rifles, instead of the Bren. ... Or perhaps you have a Bren as well. Nice set ups and buttstocks.
How you like the Lucid Red dot? I'm using it on a Saiga12 for 3gun right now, and the dot is a bit tight (MOA).
I got the longer barrel 5.56 first, because I wanted a VZ SBR, and that's what they had in stock at the time. Then I had so much fun with it that when the compacts were in stock I had to get the 7.62, well, because, flamethrower. That one was great fun, and since I was a big fan of Strikeback, I wanted a 5.56 as well.
I like the 5.56 guns because I shot a lot of 2-gun usually with AR pattern rifles and I liked that I can use the same magazine and ammo. I reload 5.56 but not 7.62 so I can shoot them a lot more.
I like the idea of the lucid on a Saiga 12, just might try that.
I tried the Lucid because of the circle dot reticle. I normally use Eotechs, but they are too heavy and bulky for the VZ. I agree that the circle is too small and it makes hitting smaller targets out past 150 yards a challenge since the reticle covers so much area.
I tend to set up all my rifles with similar optics, makes for easier transition between types if they all have the same sight picture.
I have a couple other dot sights on order and hope to try them out soon.
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I was inspired by someone on a different forum who chopped down a 16" VZ2008 to 10".
Swapped the furniture between my competition gun and the 5.56mm SBR.
From this.
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z110/Howlin_Mad_pics/VZs/VZ20081.jpg)
And this.
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z110/Howlin_Mad_pics/VZs/IMG_8701.jpg)
To this.
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z110/Howlin_Mad_pics/VZs/ad0c5729-fe00-465d-a3fb-944ab9924dab.jpg)
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z110/Howlin_Mad_pics/VZs/ed79866c-71ba-4bf1-9455-9cc6ba8c5820.jpg)
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z110/Howlin_Mad_pics/VZs/76a5c2e6-c258-458c-a864-b9f754f97881.jpg)
And this.
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z110/Howlin_Mad_pics/VZs/9fef1eb5-8044-4b63-9d73-b305aea3986c.jpg)
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z110/Howlin_Mad_pics/VZs/39ef734c-10c3-49ef-8e00-1a36b801a410.jpg)
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HM -- very nice collection there.
Would appreciate your thoughts on the railed top cover vs the side rail!
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Still looking for my "LIKE" button ::) Maybe even a "DROOL" button would work.
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New here, hi everyone. How do we attach photos to a post? I want to attach a pic of my VZ2008, stock except I changed to the urban camo Fab-Defense folding furniture and got the ambidextrous release.
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3rd party hosting site and then right click the image to get the link or the site itself might give you a pre-generated link. Imgur, Flickr, Photobucket, etc, are commonly used. Can probably also use a personal dropbox or amazon images, etc, account, but haven't tried those.
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New here, hi everyone. How do we attach photos to a post? I want to attach a pic of my VZ2008, stock except I changed to the urban camo Fab-Defense folding furniture and got the ambidextrous release.
Very simple really.
1) Get a Pic Host account such as Imageshack, Photobucket, or Hunt101.com, the latter which I use.
2) Upload your Pics to your Pic Host Gallery
3) Copy ( keyboard - Ctrl+c ) the Forum Pic Link you get from Your host
4) Paste ( keyboard - Ctrl+v ) the Forum Pic Link into Your post
5) Click on "Save" when done editing
Of course the trick with Photobucket is to just click the "IMG" code, which automatically copies the pic link to your Computer, and all you have to do is Paste ( keyboard Ctrl + v ) into your post.
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Interested also on thoughts of the railed top cover. Does it hold a zero, which ones are the best?
Thanks.........Bill
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Greetings, fellow members!
I am very excited to have purchased my very first 2 firearms ever.
The 7.62 version is modified to have the classic VZ58V look, and the 5.56 will be my go to range plinker.
Just got the Kobra red dot today as well. Hopefully those empty shells wont be hitting the Kobra.
As you can probably tell by the magazine pin, I am living in Canada :)
(http://i63.tinypic.com/2q87lf4.jpg)
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New to VZ58. I love this thing. Did bolt and mag release in under 15 mins. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161217/ebb2fefc624a2436987902b584a04b7f.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161217/98fe4676f3d2ee81ceefb2c96964aaf9.jpg)
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Czechpoint Elite.
W/ LPM Side mount
Aimpoint Pro patrol
Magpul CTR w/ .75 riser.
Czech Brake
Magpul M-Lok QD attachment with Ms4 dual QD sling
M-Lok grip
Surefire M600 Scout light.
Zendl mag release
Tactical bolt release
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/16252530_10154538011944620_5889322941722879811_o.jpg?oh=6c05051314641cb164826ecd187f6c0d&oe=5901C887)
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Here is my rifle:
(http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag43/KanchoAssassin/vz58_zpsayppqzbf.jpg)
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Had to join the show and tell. Bought this from J&G some years ago when I got lucky and stumbled into the store just as the VZ's hit a low price point. Over the years, piece by piece, I've added a little swag here, a little bling there. The bolt carrier came tabbed from Century; I only learned about the issue reading the forums long after I bought it.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/jcotterman/Guns/5CCF1573-11F9-4A51-B193-2393DA94CB46_zpsg2uufitf.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/jcotterman/media/Guns/5CCF1573-11F9-4A51-B193-2393DA94CB46_zpsg2uufitf.jpg.html)
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I was inspired by someone on a different forum who chopped down a 16" VZ2008 to 10".
Swapped the furniture between my competition gun and the 5.56mm SBR.
From this.
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z110/Howlin_Mad_pics/VZs/IMG_8701.jpg)
To this.
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z110/Howlin_Mad_pics/VZs/9fef1eb5-8044-4b63-9d73-b305aea3986c.jpg)
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z110/Howlin_Mad_pics/VZs/39ef734c-10c3-49ef-8e00-1a36b801a410.jpg)
Of course I'm an Old School traditionalist "That's the way they did it when Khruschev was running the show (who here remembers him? I do!) and that's the way I like it" Purist & correctness and originality Nazi when it comes to AK and VZ-58 rifles, so I think that shorty VZ looks muy mucho mas malo y macho with the beaver barf stock set on it.
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A bif of Friday "Vz Porning" never hurt ... :)
(http://i68.tinypic.com/2afcp5.jpg)
I am a lazy toad . I still have not fitted the polymer folding stock to go with the furniture... ups ... I also need to work out some kind of washer for the compensator has it is not 100% tight and move my PoI on the right.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=89581.0
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(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-QpXmHhL/0/6cd91164/X2/i-QpXmHhL-X2.jpg)
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czechpoint rifle in .223
(https://i.imgur.com/Xc0Gaxl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kNcvPhE.jpg)
with my MCL Extended Lever Disconnector (available on ebay and gunbroker) installed:
(https://i.imgur.com/MJ8F6VD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/clFfz8G.jpg)
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czechpoint rifle in .223
(https://i.imgur.com/Xc0Gaxl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kNcvPhE.jpg)
with my MCL Extended Lever Disconnector (available on ebay and gunbroker) installed:
(https://i.imgur.com/MJ8F6VD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/clFfz8G.jpg)
Who makes that top rail? Is it diy? Looks interesting!
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Who makes that top rail? Is it diy? Looks interesting!
vz58rifle.com sells them. I like it because of the large vents - keeps the heat off the lower handguard enough so that I don't need to use a heatshield.
it's not as low as the NEA one, so no co-witness, but without an optic mounted on there you can still use the iron sights with this rail.
comes with a screw + thumb-nut in place of the captive pin that's in the stock handguard. I found that the nut tends to come loose after firing a few magazines, so I've replaced it with a clevis pin
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I just picked this up today so first post and pic. 3rd gen.
Thanks
Barry In MO.
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/924/85OmxO.jpg)
Oh no i woke up this morning and they have multiplied. ::)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/922/Y4Ktt4.jpg)
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https://imgur.com/a/eyVVJ
Here?s a pic of my liberty gun in progress...
And thank you Morgan for doing a full service on the internals: including removing material from the bottom of the sear disconnector, polishing all the appropriate contact surfaces on the trigger group, striker, bolt and locking lugs, and also tabbing the bolt carrier. The work Looks great and the action and strike sound and feel top notch. The action cycles slicker than snot, the bolt doesn?t hang up halfway down the stroke like it did when I bought the rifle, and NO more trigger gremlin! I am very pleased.
I?ve now added an NEA upper in prep for a red dot (possibly the primary arms MD-ADS..?) and a chromed piston. While I wait (impatiently) for the Zendl bolt release and ambi mag release to arrive from Prague, I plan to get out the Dremel and carve a heat shield for the lower hand guard from a stainless steel water bottle.
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https://imgur.com/a/zcXNH
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https://imgur.com/a/nmhvt
Now it also has the zendl controls and a hogue over molded pistol grip (originally for an AK) fitted to it.
Will save up for a better muzzle brake and an optic... leaning more towards an eotech at this point.
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Finally, I bought a VZ-58 (SER IV ORF VZ-58).
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/941/41711089780_1cf0f63ce7_b.jpg)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1809/41711090580_925814bb20_b.jpg)
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@travinh (https://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?action=profile;u=21052)Nice specimen and good configuration with the NE Arms top rail, Slovakian brake, and the grip. All I would add is a Zendle bolt and mag release set, which IMHO should have bin standard on the military issued guns. I just happen to be offering some bolt releases for purchase including a Zendle set (wink wink).
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@CitizenPete
Please check your PM.
I am a right hand shooter. I am more interesting to upgrade my current bolt release to TBR.
Thanks,
Cal
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(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1868/43533507694_b1c2f40089_b.jpg)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1873/44250622121_1ae9621611_b.jpg)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1845/43533505684_e3ac345202_b.jpg)
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2008
(http://i66.tinypic.com/2mdj507.jpg)
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Here's a photo of my VZ pistol with my AR pistol.
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/850a8e0be3fb76a8d7683317d6620939/tumblr_pfjnmgODR81r6b7zg_540.jpg)
and the flash:
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/08778aa12aa9f5fd4c7d9c856e22b538/tumblr_phy3kmrVeq1r6b7zg_540.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/ledmY73l.jpg)
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After much trial and error I finally have the vz2008 outfitted to my taste.
(https://i.imgur.com/xQUZzCu.jpg)
Discreet transport bag:
- IUGA Yoga Mat Bag US (Black) [Amazon]
Canvas, 28" long x 7" diameter.
(https://i.imgur.com/1mjUyaC.jpg)
Vz.58 impersonating a yoga mat:
- 6" high density foam exercise roller + 6" PVC drain cap
Cut and sculpt foam to cradle gun, then hot glue into drain cap.
(https://i.imgur.com/ToRdVET.jpg)
Contents unpacked:
- LensCoat LCLPSMDC LensPouch Small (Digital Camo) [Amazon]
Neoprene lens bag holding prism scope and spare batteries.
- UW Gear Bandoleer 3, AK 7.62 Coyote Brown
Extremely convenient way to carry 3 magazines. Tuck tab closure system is brilliant: quick, secure, silent and doesn't wear out or clog with debris like Velcro does.
(https://i.imgur.com/1KBMmNi.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MVx9y57.jpg)
From the muzzle, working rearward, more than you ever wanted to know:
- CNC Warrior Type 84 style birdcage flash hider
Not the ultimate flash hider but short, light and good enough. I had to chase the muzzle threads with a die to fit anything except Century's worse than useless slant brake.
- SureFire Fury P2X 15/500 lumen flashlight
Any 1 inch diameter light with a tail cap switch and small bell should work. No remote switches for me.
- Vltor SMQ-OCG Offset Flashlight Mount
Single latch clamps everything. Light at 5 o'clock keeps reflection off front sight post and puts tail cap in reach of left (weak) hand index finger or right hand thumb. Outboard when slung, so doesn't poke or catch on gear.
- RS Regulate BM-1 barrel accessory mount
Superb double-hinged design is compact and unobtrusive. Mounted tight against the gas block there's just enough clearance to slide the bayonet on (without the flashlight of course).
- Blue Force Gear ULoop quick detach wire sling mount
Silent, non-scratching, simple to detach but can't open accidentally. Slightly too big to pass through front attachment hole so I Dremeled around cable ball's equator until it just fit.
- Blue Force Gear Vickers Padded Sling (special order closeout)
I've tried a bunch of sling designs and like the padded Vickers best by far. I didn't care for the digital multicam pattern, but it was too cheap to pass up. It has grown on me though.
- vz58rifle.com Tacitcal Bolt Release TZ + Extended Mag Release
One finger reloads; almost mandatory upgrades if you're right-handed.
- vz58rifle.com Railed Dust Cover
Low, sleek and needs no tools. Works well but is expensive, EU only, and requires hand fitting (at least on my vz2008, where apparently nothing is quite to spec).
- Leupold Prismatic 1x14 rifle scope, illuminated double circle dot reticle
A "glass" iron sight that's built like a tank for those of us who can't use a red dot and are getting too old for real irons. Discontinued.
- American Defense AD-20 quick release Leupold Prismatic mount
Very low, keeps scope usable without cheek riser.
- 550 paracord, quick deploy wrap
Softens cheek weld; yields 10 feet of tangle free paracord in seconds. Pull working end (tucked in nearest hinge) free of enclosing loop, yank standing end (hanging under butt plate), wrap falls away instantly. Instructions here: https://www.youtube.com/embed/9aprLqv2GqQ
- Czech vz.58 folding stock butt pad [eBay]
Keeps folded stock from banging against receiver (does nothing for recoil or length of pull). Shaved side that hits receiver, otherwise tension when folded binds hinge release button.
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Not the highest resolution picture but oh well...
(https://i.imgur.com/XiWViXH.jpg)
RIFLE:
CSA - Vz 58 military classic 7.62x39 imported by Czechpoint with optional left side charging handle. (bought from Czechpoint)
UPGRADES:
CNC Warrior - US made Slovakian-style muzzle break. (bought with rifle from Czechpoint)
CNC Warrior - US made Vz 58 gas piston. (bought it from an acquaintance at my range who bought it new from CNC Warrior for his VZ 2008 that didn't fit)
CSA - US made ergonomic grips. (bought from Czechpoint)
CSA - skeletonized side rail. (bought from Czechpoint)
CNC Warrior - US made trigger. (bought from CNC Warrior)
CNC Warrior- US made disconnector (the latter had to be hand fit). (bought from CNC Warrior)
FAB Defense- handguard and piston cover. (bought from Zahal.org)
Fab Defense - M4-VZ-P GLR16 folding stock and buttstock w/cheek riser (I had to specially request the black hinge with FDE buttstock). (bought from Zahal.org)
RS Regulate - VZ304M lower optic mount. (bought from Primary Arms)
RS Regulate - AKML Aimpoint Micro upper optic mount. (bought from Primary Arms)
Primary Arms - MD-ADS red dot. (bought from Primary Arms)
TZ - tactical bolt release. (bought from vz58rifle.org)
Zendl - ambi mag release. (bought from vz58rifle.org)
Manta - lower profile soft rail covers FDE. (bought from Manta Defense)
Magpul - ladder rail covers FDE. (bought from Primary Arms)
NOT SHOWN IN PICTURE:
Ferro Concepts - Slingster 2 point adjustable sling FDE. (Bought from Ferro Concepts)
Magpul - QD sling mount. (bought from Primary Arms)
Blue Force Gear - QD loop sling mount. (bought from Blue force gear)
EXTRA MAGS (NOT SHOWN):
Czechoslovakian military 30 round never issued original. (bought from Numrich)
Re-conditioned military surplus 30 round mags with US followers. (bought from Czechpoint)
Czechoslovakian military 10 round mag. (bought through ebay)
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Here are my three current. Hope to add a "pistol" to the family in the near future.
VZ2000 Ohio Ordnance Works standard edition:
(https://i.imgur.com/tPtBFKl.jpg)
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VZ2000 Ohio Ordnance Works "tactical" model (the darker, more textured finish does not really shine through, but it is more dark and matte grey than the standard)
(https://i.imgur.com/0cZy2jw.jpg)
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And last but certainly not lease, a Czech Small Arms gun steel trigger, Bone Steel foregrip, Magpul AFG, rubber grip sleeve over the newer "AR" style grips and a Magpul SL stock. Finished in a Mad Custom Coatings smoke finish. Soon to but upgraded with a more correct CZ folding stock as soon as I make up my mind.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZyTMcgc.jpg)
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VZ58 featured on a Girls For Gunslingers facebook page post/photo: https://www.facebook.com/girls4gunslingers/photos/a.413029502125431/2442927672468927/
No nudity, but probably NSFW.
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My VZ2008 I got in a trade about a year and a half ago (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200109/0e05d072d2949e29a63f6a57446f5d55.jpg)
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(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50001657126_6d7cd47131_h.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50001908782_bfe84f26a9_h.jpg)